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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread
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on: December 22, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
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The police knew very little about the Madoff case (it had not been bypassed for decades the investigations of financial regulators) until the very end. In this case the police has all information from Bob's volunteered logs as well as Zimbeck's desperate statement.
1992 - Madoff was investigated as potentially running a Ponzi scheme with Frank Avellino and Michael Bienes (who were the primary parties responsible for funneling investors to Madoff). Incidentally those two ran a number of 'foundations' since then that also invested with Madoff. Investigation terminated when the two close down their business.  2006 - The SEC receives notice from Harry Markopolos that it is "highly likely" that "Madoff is running the world's largest Ponzi scheme". The investigator assigned "finds nothing credible" (and then a year later marries Madoff's daughter).  At lest 10 people testified during his trial that they had notified the SEC about concerns they had, and a few also contacted NYC law enforcement about it as well. bloody FUDers they are everywhere  LoL the best post of 2014 :-))) FUDers were FUDing the Madoff project since 1992. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread
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on: December 22, 2014, 07:20:22 PM
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The police knew very little about the Madoff case (it had not been bypassed for decades the investigations of financial regulators) until the very end. In this case the police has all information from Bob's volunteered logs as well as Zimbeck's desperate statement.
1992 - Madoff was investigated as potentially running a Ponzi scheme with Frank Avellino and Michael Bienes (who were the primary parties responsible for funneling investors to Madoff). Incidentally those two ran a number of 'foundations' since then that also invested with Madoff. Investigation terminated when the two close down their business. 2006 - The SEC receives notice from Harry Markopolos that it is "highly likely" that "Madoff is running the world's largest Ponzi scheme". The investigator assigned "finds nothing credible" (and then a year later marries Madoff's daughter). At lest 10 people testified during his trial that they had notified the SEC about concerns they had, and a few also contacted NYC law enforcement about it as well. You are right, as you quoted the facts indicate that the law enforcement could do a better job in the Madoff case. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread
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on: December 20, 2014, 01:30:58 PM
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Investigation is ongoing but we already have enough solid information to start the next process. It's going to cost a minimal amount to get the ball rolling but all who have been involved will be notified by authorities soon.
Patience has been appreciated.
in Cambodia ? in China ? Good luck with that (remains the altcoin canadian mafia well better than nothing actually) This. Bernie Madoff ran his scam for 20 years, to the tune of ~$65B - and it really only ended because he confessed to it for the most part. That was in the US, in arguably the most regulated financial market in the world... and nothing happened for decades! Thinking that anything will happen via authorities - especially in jurisdictions like Cambodia and China is laughable. Even more laughable if you think there will be any recovery as a result of this. Though big by crypto standards perhaps, 1K-2K BTC is not enough to cover the legal fees for more than a few weeks if the parties involved live in different states... let alone on opposite sides of the planet! The only 'justice' that can be served in these instances has to come from investors - simply don't do business with them again. Sucks maybe, but that's the nature of the game. If you still trade on BTER, still buy coins from known scammers, and still look for profits from a pump as much as from organic growth... then you have to also accept that the guilty parties continue to win and aren't likely to stop any time soon. Of course, transparency was severely lacking (still is) and there are many of us that had no idea, in this case, who the parties involved were up front (except David)... myself included. However, that's why I'll take my losses for what they were - gambling losses. I gambled that David had vetted the parties he was getting in bed with and since he was staking his reputation on it - that I could support an unknown and possibly profit significantly from investing in something that had enough warning signs to scare off much of the competition. Didn't work out that way of course, but neither does poker or craps most of the time. It still can be a lot of fun to gamble however - but once the casino is proven to be hiding cards or using weighted dice... you certainly don't keep going back to try to recover your losses from that same casino. The police knew very little about the Madoff case (it had not been bypassed for decades the investigations of financial regulators) until the very end. In this case the police has all information from Bob's volunteered logs as well as Zimbeck's desperate statement. I am not a policeman, but as far as I know, police professionals aren't different from others in the sense that police professionals want recognition and they are eager to progress in their chosen field. What could be an easiest way to progress when the participants of the fraud disclosed all information in the public domain, so the police just need to identify one victim (and six came forward so far). Your scepticism about prosecuting/extraditing a westerner in a third world country is very understandable, on the other hand the aforementioned human factor usually solves all logistical issues of the cooperation with third world polices. If a policeman in Cambodia could choose between a cooperation with the EU polices forces, the prospect of travelling and working, being recognized as a competent professional by western colleagues, perhaps permanently settling down in a EU country and between Zimbeck's 20 BTC bribe then I can assure you the Cambodian police man will choose the former. There are cases every day that the UK justice system extradite criminals from very dodgy places, so Zimbeck is very far from being safe in Cambodia. (having said that I still believe the Russian mob will find Zimbeck sooner than the law enforcement). (I also understand very well what Ryan is doing in Taiwan, but if he read this, then I suggest him to re-evaluate his hiding place, because the fact that Taiwan is not an Interpol member and contradictory what novice criminals believe just make it a lot easier to bring back criminals from there.) As for China, the nature of the communist system pretty much determines the outcome of the case for Lin which is in my opinion a 50-50% outcome. It depends who protects him and if we could allocate the case to the right communist (i.e. to the the party middle tier bureaucrat who can gain from the destruction of Lin) than he will be destructed in a 3 days trial. Apart from the above and which make me believe that this is a lot easier case than you think and the police is more than happy to continue pursuing this case is that certain members of the police/prosecutors are genuinely pissed off from what's happening in crypto. If you would talk to the Netherlands or UK police you would realize that the members of the fraud and computer crime unit are very much aware of what's happening in crypto. Most of these guys are software engineers by train and my impression was that they are very much into crypto, they have Bitcoins and other altcoins, consequently they have lost money this year. I also attend sometimes on Bitcoin meetups in the UK and there are always young policemen in the audience, and they are are just as enthusiasts about digital currencies as you or me - and at least as much pissed off about the crooks like Zimbeck as well. Of course they wouldn't admit this publicly, but these guys are not only doing their job but have personal interest (revenge for their financial loss) in bringing down the Zimbeck & Co gang. I don't know... if there isn't any extradition treaties it can take a long long time... recently a terrorist living in Canada has been extradited to France... The process took 20 years and they aren't 3rd world countries... I guess for third world countries the best way of action (or the one which would have the best chance of success) would be the illegal one... (this is where people living in Cambodia start to think European are illiterate morons for thinking that sort of thing about their country ) Usually, (and again) the human factor solves that issue. It quite simple actually: once the westerner put in an Asian jail, it never takes longer than 48 hours that the westerner start to beg to extradite him. As for countries without Interpol participations (like Taiwan) or extradition treaties it is even simpler, usually bilateral, case by case basis police agreements gets the crook on the air plan back to Western Europe and that process is a lot quicker than an extradition process. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech
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on: December 20, 2014, 01:23:19 PM
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I agree and remember that it is our money, our investment
That's absolutely correct and as a free man you could stick your smart contract in your ass with a giant flag that displays "I am one of the 5 assholes who still believe in the Bitbay scam" and walk around whit such assets as a proud Bitbay believer (I guess sticking a smart contract into your ass qualifies as an asset), however, it is unethical to present this scam as a legitimate project, it is immoral to pretend nothing has happened and it is completely unacceptable to try to trick more naive investors into this fraud, and therefore we can't let that happen. All right boys? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core
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on: December 20, 2014, 12:13:29 PM
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Barrabas could be Jose Murinho or Josif Stalin, doesn't matter, what matters is that for 99% of the cases he is correct.
It's pathetic that you wanker are defending this way the Bitbay crooks.
Bitbay is an entertaining side show. I don't have any interest in that except for the entertainment. Jose needs a little dose of this kind of medicine though. The Jackal  I don't think individuals over age 17 and having IQ over 85 (so being not a functional idiot) speculate too much whether Barabbas is Jose de Vega, Lady Gaga or one of these people at http://bit.ly/1ChTwhU or he is which member of the Dennis Rodman-Kim Jong Un duo, but you do what you want and whatever makes you happy. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech
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on: December 20, 2014, 11:45:53 AM
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We will release more wallets later.
Thanks for your support.
David Zimbeck and our other coders will release more info soon.
Keep it rolling, good job guys i am proud of you Cant no Bob hodl us down, especially me Thanks for your support. We will keep working on this project and release decentralized marketplace and hedging system as we promised. Hedging is fine for investors/me but the Marketplace is a winner..if released proper Marketplace no one can hold this coin down.. i am intrested in both value but more in trading online buying selling stuff online Its interesting, some people were arguing that I should make heding a voting system instead of having a master key. Although with voting there is still a centralized aspect of it. Some people arent a fan of hedging. Personally, im a fan because I think volume and use of a coin is more important that specualtion and trade value. Its like, when you have millions of users, then remove hedging. Although having a master key does give me the added resbonsibility. So maybe I should start it out by freezing 95% of the supply (leaving 5% liquid) and allow voting for inflation or deflation from there 1% increase or decrease per week. I'm just wondering if our distribution is good enough that voting would be fair. Maybe I could add parking to make it slightly more deflationary. Hello David, Thanks for sharing the vision, i am very much fan of hedging but i think it's not now the time for hedging. In orde to make hedging a succes there needs to be more coin circullation, in other words people must start using the coin. How can we make people to see the coin is by using it, the marketplace is the place to be to use your coins (not the exchanges). But i can see the value of the coin as an issue in marketplace, therefor pegging it won't be a bad idea. Because how else are we going to define the value of the coin on Marketplace, there needs to be a certain value.. My question to you is how can you freeze 95% of the coins?, i have 7% will you take my 7% coin as hostage? how must i see this you freezing out 95%? There won't be a market place you dumb fuck. This "project" is over and the crook Zimbeck, this pathological liar partner of Bobsurplus & Stevie & Lin is finished. By the way, your very welcome :-))) it was my pleasure to serve the altcoin community by assisting in revealing the truth about this scam. Enjoy your "investment" (though if I would be you I would get out from this "investment" as soon as you can). |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core
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on: December 20, 2014, 11:37:02 AM
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We need some really good news from the VeriCoin devs.
Hoping for the impossible to happen will get you nothing. Stooges have been maxed out for months now... By the way talking again decentralized exchages and the likes, have you seen what black halo has brought ti black coin? There's a clear and loud lesson there.... Yeah, that's good point and still true even David Zimbeck has been extremely successful with BitBay, and his followers are super excited about the decentralized market proposition. Yea as him, bob & Lin were all scamming every one, a real scam, not just some whales that jumped on a P&D op. That's correct and we discuss that at http://bit.ly/1zLR17X. As for when I bought into VRC and how much I lost (your previous post), don't worry about me, I don't invest money in digital currencies which I can't loss, and 95% of my digital money is still in Bitcoin, and I have very little in entirely useless nonsense shits like VRC, so thanks for your caring attention, but I am all right. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread
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on: December 20, 2014, 11:19:10 AM
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Investigation is ongoing but we already have enough solid information to start the next process. It's going to cost a minimal amount to get the ball rolling but all who have been involved will be notified by authorities soon.
Patience has been appreciated.
in Cambodia ? in China ? Good luck with that (remains the altcoin canadian mafia well better than nothing actually) This. Bernie Madoff ran his scam for 20 years, to the tune of ~$65B - and it really only ended because he confessed to it for the most part. That was in the US, in arguably the most regulated financial market in the world... and nothing happened for decades! Thinking that anything will happen via authorities - especially in jurisdictions like Cambodia and China is laughable. Even more laughable if you think there will be any recovery as a result of this. Though big by crypto standards perhaps, 1K-2K BTC is not enough to cover the legal fees for more than a few weeks if the parties involved live in different states... let alone on opposite sides of the planet! The only 'justice' that can be served in these instances has to come from investors - simply don't do business with them again. Sucks maybe, but that's the nature of the game. If you still trade on BTER, still buy coins from known scammers, and still look for profits from a pump as much as from organic growth... then you have to also accept that the guilty parties continue to win and aren't likely to stop any time soon. Of course, transparency was severely lacking (still is) and there are many of us that had no idea, in this case, who the parties involved were up front (except David)... myself included. However, that's why I'll take my losses for what they were - gambling losses. I gambled that David had vetted the parties he was getting in bed with and since he was staking his reputation on it - that I could support an unknown and possibly profit significantly from investing in something that had enough warning signs to scare off much of the competition. Didn't work out that way of course, but neither does poker or craps most of the time. It still can be a lot of fun to gamble however - but once the casino is proven to be hiding cards or using weighted dice... you certainly don't keep going back to try to recover your losses from that same casino. The police knew very little about the Madoff case (it had not been bypassed for decades the investigations of financial regulators) until the very end. In this case the police has all information from Bob's volunteered logs as well as Zimbeck's desperate statement. I am not a policeman, but as far as I know, police professionals aren't different from others in the sense that police professionals want recognition and they are eager to progress in their chosen field. What could be an easiest way to progress when the participants of the fraud disclosed all information in the public domain, so the police just need to identify one victim (and six came forward so far). Your scepticism about prosecuting/extraditing a westerner in a third world country is very understandable, on the other hand the aforementioned human factor usually solves all logistical issues of the cooperation with third world polices. If a policeman in Cambodia could choose between a cooperation with the EU polices forces, the prospect of travelling and working, being recognized as a competent professional by western colleagues, perhaps permanently settling down in a EU country and between Zimbeck's 20 BTC bribe then I can assure you the Cambodian police man will choose the former. There are cases every day that the UK justice system extradites criminals from very dodgy places, so Zimbeck is very far from being safe in Cambodia. (having said that I still believe the Russian mob will find Zimbeck sooner than the law enforcement). (I also understand very well what Ryan is doing in Taiwan, but if he read this, then I suggest him to re-evaluate his hiding place, because the fact that Taiwan is not an Interpol member and contradictory what novice criminals believe just make it a lot easier to bring back criminals from there.) As for China, the nature of the communist system pretty much determines the outcome of the case for Lin which is in my opinion a 50-50% outcome. It depends who protects him and if we could allocate the case to the right communist (i.e. to the the party middle tier bureaucrat who can gain from the destruction of Lin) than he will be destructed in a 3 days trial. Apart from the above and which make me believe that this is a lot easier case than you think and the police is more than happy to continue pursuing this case is that certain members of the police/prosecutors are genuinely pissed off from what's happening in crypto. If you would talk to the Netherlands or UK police you would realize that the members of the fraud and computer crime unit are very much aware of what's happening in crypto. Most of these guys are software engineers by train and my impression was that they are very much into crypto, they have Bitcoins and other altcoins, consequently they have lost money this year. I also attend sometimes on Bitcoin meetups in the UK and there are always young policemen in the audience, and they are are just as enthusiasts about digital currencies as you or me - and at least as much pissed off about the crooks like Zimbeck as well. Of course they wouldn't admit this publicly, but these guys are not only doing their job but have personal interest (revenge for their financial loss) in bringing down the Zimbeck & Co gang. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has lost its luster - no boost from Russia crisis (compared to Cyprus)
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on: December 18, 2014, 11:54:54 AM
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Russia's making all crypto coins illegal there in the new year. Apparently there are plans to fine people caught using crypto, but I wonder if they also plan to confiscate any crypto you hold. I cannot see them returning confiscated crypto coins to people who pay their fines.
The events of the last 25 years indicates that trends and directions aren't influenced by the Russians as much anymore, but from the Western world (even that intermezzos in the past, like the crazy man Lenin's revolution or the occupation of East Europe after the II. world war had serious effect on the whole world). When Paypal and Microsoft start to trade Bitcoin then there is a better chance that Bitcoin goes mainstream than that the pathetic Russian Central Bank will wipe it out. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread
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on: December 18, 2014, 11:34:03 AM
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So is this the top or the bottom? With no dev who is buying these coins??
I'm still working on it. Bob and Ryan left with money. Steven seems to have interest although he also seems a bit demoralized. He helped set up a joint account so it will be ok. The only reason they could left with the money, because you created this ICO scam with them in the first place and assisted them all the way along the line. You have been presenting yourself as a pathological liar who don't see your own role in the scam. Pulling the naive, mislead, "I didn't know" card is a very well known move, virtually all fraudsters try to pull that card as the first line of defence. It doesn't help you, law enforcement aren't interested in your lies. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread
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on: December 18, 2014, 11:04:34 AM
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On his defense, when you do development for a coin, you usually don't have time to mess around with decisions which are made by others in the team. and considering he got 100btc up front with promises for more through bitbay coin, well you just focus on the work and let the politics to others... I am sure, it can happen to any dev around... however, if he was serious probably he should have left the project by now and move on (considering he got the 100btc ) I can assure you, what happened to Zimbeck, it can't just happen to any devs due to bad luck or some strange accident - it happens only the morally fucked up devs. I have been doing software development for decades but it never came to my mind to team up with P&D guys like Bob to scam out few hundred BTCs from naive, wannabe rich people, and I don't think I am the odd one who for some very strange reasons don't involve with scam, but as we speak there are several million software developers who work hard and just a very few of them end up like Zimbeck. We are all here for the dollar, but there is a massive difference between earning money by creating and selling a novel technology or marketing a software by creating a fake volume ICO scam. And to keep things clear, he got not only 100 BTC, he got 191 BTC. Plus 100 MILLION BAY. Plus he has his paws in the "fund" where there are almost 600 more BTC. Plus the bags of Steven and Lin are quite deep -especially in BAY- so I am quite sure they are currently being generous... Zimbeck the Turd is not developing anything. Never was. He copy/pasted BC halo included and gave it another name. But wait for The Sound and the Fury to post the details of the final chaptar, he has done a magnificent, unparalleled job so far. That's, of course, if you want to know the details that, somehow, seem to escape you. By design. The Sound And Fury is absolutely amazing, I can't wait for the next episode. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core
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on: December 18, 2014, 10:54:54 AM
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That sounds about right. The competition is fierce (LTC, BC, VIA, Ether, etc.), but when the competition chance to succeed against Bitcoin is zero, then Vericoin prospects are not really great. Still, that delusional leader Jay Jay keeps dreaming about beating Bitcoin.
come on ,do we have to discuss the losers from rutgers?those losers may be good at farming ,but coding...... There have been certainly issues with the development skills, but terms of character and in comparison to many other coins our devs are quite reasonable guys. Though more and more transparent teams and therefore there isn't any unique selling points for vericoin. I guess it's time to go back to Bitcoin. Apart from ethereum none of the alt/blockchain-2 coins have chance to survive. I bought a bit of BTC yesterday and I'm buying more as coinbase clears the path all the way down from here. I expect a significant rebound. It will be interesting to see whether a rebound or further drop will happen in the short term, and I am just not sure what determines/moves Bitcoin price in the short term. I am not talking about the P&D related 3-5% price changes, but the 40% drop since July. I doubt anyone would know what moves the price. How the number of miners, number of merchants, number of users use of the coin, Ethereum ICO effect the price - or effect the price at all - is not clear to me. However, I believe this: once the Bitcoin concept will sink in for a wider audience in a way that they want to own Bitcoin (just like the same way as you, me and other current users came to the conclusion that "this cool, we should have it") when the current 1 million user base start exploding then the price could go anywhere up. There must be a turning point when digital currencies will go mainstream. Once Bitcoin will start being a household item for the currently not interested 99.9% of society then any price could happen. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core
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on: December 17, 2014, 03:27:57 PM
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That sounds about right. The competition is fierce (LTC, BC, VIA, Ether, etc.), but when the competition chance to succeed against Bitcoin is zero, then Vericoin prospects are not really great. Still, that delusional leader Jay Jay keeps dreaming about beating Bitcoin.
come on ,do we have to discuss the losers from rutgers?those losers may be good at farming ,but coding...... There have been certainly issues with the development skills, but terms of character and in comparison to many other coins our devs are quite reasonable guys. Though more and more transparent teams and therefore there isn't any unique selling points for vericoin. I guess it's time to go back to Bitcoin. Apart from ethereum none of the alt/blockchain-2 coins have chance to survive. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread
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on: December 17, 2014, 02:28:53 PM
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On his defense, when you do development for a coin, you usually don't have time to mess around with decisions which are made by others in the team. and considering he got 100btc up front with promises for more through bitbay coin, well you just focus on the work and let the politics to others... I am sure, it can happen to any dev around... however, if he was serious probably he should have left the project by now and move on (considering he got the 100btc ) I can assure you, what happened to Zimbeck, it can't just happen to any devs due to bad luck or some strange accident - it happens only the morally fucked up devs. I have been doing software development for decades but it never came to my mind to team up with P&D guys like Bob to scam out few hundred BTCs from naive, wannabe rich people, and I don't think I am the odd one who for some very strange reasons don't involve with scam, but as we speak there are several million software developers who work hard and just a very few of them end up like Zimbeck. We are all here for the dollar, but there is a massive difference between earning money by creating and selling a novel technology or marketing a software by creating a fake volume ICO scam. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open
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on: December 17, 2014, 02:04:41 PM
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how u liking those duracell batteries?
I am liking the price, 70 sat and will be 10 soon ... as a scam should be. No more money is coming into the scam boys. The money party (before it started) is over. Your very welcome LoL Your boy bobby is spending time in jail pretty soon At least, finally, you are almost correct about something. Almost correct, because not only Bobby, but all participants of the scam will be spending time in jail - including your David and Stevie, even Lin of Bter. (Actually Bob is in the best position, since all information and facts about the scam was volunteered by Bob). u pathetic kunt. I have been speaking to Deguerin about this ever since the day your boy Bobby came out of closet. Game is over, buddy. No more stealing money from victims. Yes, you have been talking to DeGuerin - in your sick head. Same way as any absurdities could exist in your sick head like that the Dennis Rodman & Kim Jong Un duo is doing the pegging algorithm for Bitbay or Prof. Stephen Hawking is responsible for the quantum physics area of the magnificent Bitbay project ... because we understand anything is possible in Bitbay ... and because anything could pop up from your sick head when you are dreaming about Bitbay. Stick to your Star War lightsaber and your regular masturbating in your mom's basement boy instead of posting here nonsense, your high-school lunch money is not going to be doubled with your great Bitbay project. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open
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on: December 17, 2014, 01:51:39 PM
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why is this thread still here? Whoever is responsable of this thread should delete it or end it. Its causing alot of confussion . . .
No!! No confusion!! David work very hard!! Everyone new thread please!! Thankyou for continued support!! 2.0 technology coming soon! This guy says the same thing again and again . I do not see anything in terms of progress. I apologize , but unless .. Steven or David post at least one bit of information related to the work thats going on , the interest in bay will gain confidence. Are you an idiot or a troll? There is no progress, no work "that's going on", Bitbay is a scam, the IPO was fake, David & Stevie & Bob & Lin created a fake volume you dumb fuck ... regardless that the 1 billion $ market cap still exists in your sick head. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open
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on: December 16, 2014, 05:20:38 PM
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how u liking those duracell batteries?
I am liking the price, 70 sat and will be 10 soon ... as a scam should be. No more money is coming into the scam boys. The money party (before it started) is over. Your very welcome LoL At least, finally, you are almost correct about something. Almost correct, because not only Bobby, but all participants of the scam will be spending time in jail - including your David and Stevie, even Lin of Bter. (Actually Bob is in the best position to make a deal with the police, since all information and facts about the scam was volunteered by Bob). |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread
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on: December 16, 2014, 05:08:30 PM
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Here is a post from the official thread: Guys I just wanted to post here and say, it was brought under my attention that Bobs group controls 100s and 100s of fake profiles. Literally almost all of the people you engage with are fake on bitcointalk(altcoinuk, barrabas, 100s of other). The other thing brought to my attention was that they had manipulated me to get into the project with the exact goal of hurting my reputation. Chats were show to me privately, profiles were revealed to me, somebody changed Bobs post, leaked profiles, they even got into a profile and posted from it. Here is an example... http://imgur.com/FfbbPPwPersonally, the lack of moderation on bitcointalk makes me think the site itself is turning into a "National Inquirer of coins". Even fake accounts have started to appear on reddit. Luckily, we can moderate that. Now that i'm aware of it moderating these accounts are easy. If what they say is a lie or doesnt make sense its probably paid for. So join me also on r/BitBay too and Trello where things are positive and we can talk about work tech and cool things. These guys maybe have even been associated with iconicexpert (considering the constant ties dating way back in the forums) profiles like (obvious) 4 star level dating back even a year are also fake. Its hard to say how many coins and people this group has tried to harm. Its also hard to say how many members there are, what their motives are, why they are so filled with contempt(perhaps they are trying to destroy the altcoin market or discredit coins) and so on... It is social engineering and I refuse to let myself neither any one of you who support me fall victim to it again. This ends here. No longer will any investor, deveoper, or kind hearted person fall victim to social engineering and manipulation. I dont care if they are intelligence, criminals, just some greedy group or whoever anymore and know in my heart that this is about something bigger than ourselves and we must honor that. What does make sense is to stand up for truth and whats right. Therefore community members encourage others to stay. Defend what you believe in your heart you know to be true. Everyone in crypto is getting manipulated by this group and if anything that main bay thread is proof enough (without me leaking my chat logs) Not only is everything they are doing illegal (paid defamation campaigns and disinformation campaigns are) but its unfortunately common in the world. Celebrities deal with it all the time and nobody deems them naive since they are not the ones doing the disinformation. No, we stand up for what is good in the world and what is just. Anyone who really believes in tech the way I do, should know what significance crypto really has. Anyone who knows my past with Blackcoin will know why i was targeted because of what i stood for. (take a look at my speech for cryptolina for example) In fact, for those who dont know my past, I was working for free for a year, never sold a Blackcoin even when there were chances, watched as somone sabotaged the price and defended what i knew was right. The same thing happened on my July 4th independence day release of BlackHalo. We were attacked instead of revered. On indepenence day of all things. Only the people who knew who I was were cheering the project on. Unlike Bob, I dont pay for my believers. Ive earned them. If their moves turn me into a black sheep of crypto then I would rather be that. The instant Bay started. The group came in to the forums early provoking me and trying to get me upset. I got sent PDFs, audio clips and other things from someone inside their team. I realized later that when Bob said he was moving he was also carefully commenting on forums, trying to provoke me. While i was working I was manipulated and asked to respond to links on forums. So it was never my intention to even listen to or respond to it. No, they asked me to respond to it knowing it would get me upset. So just here to clear the air. The attempts were premeditated and carefully planned. I got sent some comments about it over chat revealing this to be true. Adding to their frustration, I evaded every extortion attempt. And we are going to win. Because I'm going to peg the coin, I'm going to release software and thats all there is to say about it. Steve has agreed to work with me. Im happy to see he is willing to stand up for good. The above post from Zimbeck indicates that David Zimbeck obviously unable to recognize his own role in the scam nor can take responsibility for his actions. He is either delusional or a pathological liar, most likely both, whatever it is (despite our request) he won't compensate the victims of his project, the Bitbay fraud. Probably the best for everyone in crypto land is to continue working with law enforcement agencies to bring the scammers to justice. So far I could forward 3 victims' details to the police. I encourage all victims of this crime to contact law enforcement directly or trust me with their details and then I will forward it to the Netherlands police (the jurisdiction has not been established yet but that's where we started the proceeding). |
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