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121  Economy / Economics / Re: The collapse of central banks...Inevitable? on: April 23, 2024, 05:24:45 PM
You have people keeping their coins on centralized platforms, you have a few companies dominating mining, you have users unable to spend because of jpg monkeys and you're talking about bringing down central banks. Much hopium?

The dream was always to eliminate the middleman from the system (banks included). Why do you think Satoshi created Bitcoin in the first place? Unfortunately, people haven't moved away from centralizing powers out of convenience. It's much easier to entrust someone else with your funds (banks, exchanges, etc) than doing it yourself (self-custody). This is why the odds of central banks collapsing are very slim. Even if the economy is in a very bad shape. They can manipulate it by either printing more money (inflation) or raising interest rates to protect the value of Fiat currencies.

What will happen is the extinction of paper money via the introduction of CBDCs (government-issued digital currencies). This means more power/control over people's financial lives. As long as governments exist, don't expect central banking to go away anytime soon. I'm yet to see if Javier Milei's promises to abolish Argentina's central bank will materialize. I'm certain the legislative chamber won't allow it. Expect crypto to live alongside Fiat currencies for generations. Grin
122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin halving is hours ago. Will you hold your BTC to April 2028? on: April 23, 2024, 05:20:05 PM
Bitcoin halving a fourth time is at block 840,000. It happened hours ago.

A next halving will be at block 840,000 + 210,000 = block 1,050,000. Estimated time is in April 2028.
https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/

Will you hold your bitcoins to 2028?

Bitcoin block rewards now is 3,125 BTC and after 2028 halving, it will be 3,125/2 = 1,5625 BTC.

After the 5 epoch completes, 96,875% of all bitcoins in total supply will be available in circulating supply.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply

Now Bitcoin already has Stock-to-Flow rate is smaller than Gold.

Personally, I'd hold some BTC in cold storage way beyond the next halving of 2028. That's for my descendants to enjoy. But I understand that most people will be tempted to sell before the halving just to reap in profits.

With how bad the global economy is faring, holdlers will have no choice but to sell BTC for Fiat to pay off their bills. I'm pretty sure market prices will be a lot higher by 2028, than what they are right now. Maybe BTC will finally reach $100k? Who knows? Just keep buying, and "hodling", and forget about the rest. Smiley
123  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Now that Bitcoin halving have been completed, what next? on: April 23, 2024, 05:16:20 PM
Bitcoin halving was one of the greatest events all Bitcoin lover have been looking forward to. The implication of this will be that miners will have lower reward for mining Bitcoin which will lead to reduction in the quantity of free Bitcoin entering the market. As expected, this is meant to create scarcity and in turn increase in the price of Bitcoin. Many predictions have been made and that leaves one to imagine:
  • What path will Bitcoin chose following the halving
  • If this event will lead to more Bitcoin related innovations?
  • If this will lead to more people getting involved in Bitcoin

While I am optimistic that market will respond positively to the halving, initial reaction does not seem to support that, hence many will be wondering what is going on.

What's next? Nothing. The hype will start to decline slowly, until the market becomes "bearish" again. I'm certain BTC will reach an ever higher market price after the fifth halving. It's likely BTC will continue to improve until it becomes scalable enough to handle the masses. We've already seen innovation such as Taproot and Ordinals take the crypto world by storm. All of this happened before the 4th halving took place a few days ago. Imagine what other innovations will take place when the 5th halving comes. We should expect MAST, Lamport signatures, etc to become a reality soon. Also, it's expected mainstream adoption for the Lightning Network to increase in the following years (although the network is still buggy). Especially with Coinbase making a partnership with a LN-based startup.

With BTC being promoted as the "best performing asset on Earth", you can expect more people to join the revolution. We're still early considering that there are a few more halvings left before all BTC are mined (which will happen by 2100). The question is: Will you keep buying and "hodling" BTC? Or will you sell it to greedy companies and institutions? Smiley
124  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everyone is celebrating about the fourth halving but what is this? on: April 23, 2024, 05:13:31 PM
It is either what @nullama said (people trying to get into the halving block) or this is "fee market manipulation" considering the timing and how the attack took place. There was an "artificial" injection of a rather large number of transactions (the first suspect is the Ordinals Attackers) into the mempool which has only manipulated the fee market and significantly increased the fee rate by creating this fake competition.

Luckily the attack is becoming very expensive so it can not continue for long but the attack itself will not stop as long as the exploit in the protocol exists and the fake market where they sell fake tokens under the codename Ordinals exists. That is creating an incentive to spam attack bitcoin.

Of course it won't continue. Otherwise, people will stop using Bitcoin for good. That's why the fee mechanism was invented. To help protect the Blockchain against spam attacks. I'd imagine chains with bigger block sizes (BCH and BSV) getting abused because of their higher transaction capacity. Even Solana's ultra-low fees paves the way for transaction spamming. Eventually, the attacker is going to run out of money as fees continue to rise like there's no tomorrow. When fees decline, it will be the perfect time to send money across the BTC blockchain. Or you can take the opportunity to open/close a channel on the LN at a lower cost.

I'm not surprised about fees surging towards the "triple digits", since that's usually the norm with every halving event. The past halving caused fees to rise all the way to the moon (although not as high as they are right now). I'd hope Ordinals moves away to a sidechain just to leave the main BTC blockchain for financial-only applications (sending/receiving money). Maybe Bitcoin Core devs will come up with a solution soon? Cheesy
125  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Selling BTC for foreign currencies on: April 22, 2024, 11:46:41 AM
why don't you buy the local currency before going to the country of destination?  airports usually have a foreign currency booth for travelers, it's the safest thing you can do and you need the local currency just when you arrive at the airport. it's best if you know an expat, your fellow countrymen for a guide.

you don't wanna go there unprepared or meet up with someone to trade to local fiat, it's going to be the riskiest attempt. you might wanna visit the local forum of the country.

Oh yeah. Forgot about that. If I can't find a safe way to buy foreign currencies without KYC, I'll have no choice but to do as you've told me. It would be an option of a last resort, though. I don't think selling BTC for foreign currencies would be considered "illegal", but I'll ask my laywer just to be safe.

Another option I've been exploring is Forex trading with BTC. But that's more in the investing side than anything else (like using foreign currencies as real money in a foreign country). Perhaps, it will be much easier to get access to foreign currencies once the world switches to CBDCs. Our society advances quickly, so who knows? Cheesy
126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ORE tokens...Worth it? on: April 22, 2024, 11:38:46 AM
All scams. A CPU Is a CPU. There's nothing a phone CPU can do that a PC CPU can't do better. "Phone only mining" is a pure lie.

Not all of them. Magi has a unique PoW algorithm (M7M) where it punishes big miners, instead of the "little guy". The higher the hashrate, the lower the block reward will be. This makes it easier for anyone to mine XMG on mobile devices. The only downside is that the number of exchanges are low (as well as market price).

It's this reason why we shouldn't expect to make profit mining on the go. It would only be for fun. Maybe someday developers will make a similar cryptocurrency that will gather the attention of mainstream traders and investors alike? Cheesy


I’ve tried mining it last week when it came out. It was profitable for a few days, especially if you had some CPUs laying around or some AWS credits.

Later they increased the difficulty and made it very unprofitable. Then they increased it 32x and all of a sudden shut down mining altogether because it was congesting the network too much and they needed to rewrite the code from scratch.

So now you can’t mine it anymore.

That sucks. At least, the idea of mobile mining is there. Making it a success, is another story. If implemented right, we could have a new wave of cryptocurrencies that are much more decentralized than BTC itself. After all, there are more mobile devices in the world than PCs (if I'm not mistaken). Anyone with a phone or tablet can support the Blockchain via mobile-friendly PoW mining. Electroneum wanted to do something like this but it failed. Who knows what would be of ORE in the future?
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any other coins like Primecoin? on: April 22, 2024, 11:24:07 AM
Most likely profit.

If the coin is not going to gather investors then what is the point of developing it? Probably you would be the one to fund the development itself if you really wanted to. Many people these days are now kore concerned about what is ‘in’? Or what is the current trend rather than what could be beneficial for the crypto community at large considering the future as well.

Investors aren't interested in old coins these days (with the exception of Bitcoin). They want something new and fresh that would allow them to make massive returns in the quickest time possible. You can see why "meme" coins and NFTs are extremely-popular these days. Old coins with unique PoW algorithms like Primecoin and Magi will remain a niche to the general public. Only a few of them (mostly crypto/tech enthusiasts) will actively-support these projects. With some coins being abandoned in development, don't expect to make a buck investing in them anytime soon.

I would've loved to see a Primecoin alternative that would help advance the discovery of Cunningham chains. Something like a PoW token living in either the Solana or ETH blockchain. That would be cool. Hopefully, a developer (or group of developers) will become interested in Primecoin someday. At least, the XPM blockchain still lives. Too bad it's only listed on one exchange.
128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in a casino's bankroll...Still worth it in 2024? on: April 22, 2024, 11:21:22 AM
Since there is only one that offers to invest in a bankroll out of hundreds of existing casinos I don't think it's worth it in 2024, they prefer to have all the profit and not share it with investors they find it more profitable if they have high rollers playing in their platform, so they concentrate on marketing, if you want profit sharing Funtoken and BFG share their profit by staking their token.
This one is worth it is like investing in a casino also.

I guess these tokens belong to decentralized casinos, right? I think there's a higher chance of making profits in a centralized casino than a decentralized one. After all, centralized casinos are the ones dominating the gambling industry. Our options of investing into a casino's bankroll are limited. The only ones I could find are Bustadice, Bustabit, and Bitvest. They aren't as big as the one under my sig, but it's better something than nothing.

With BTC constantly going up in price, we should be able to obtain massive returns in our bankroll investment over the long term. The high network fees is a dealbreaker, though. Especially when you want to deposit/withdraw in/out of the casino. Crypto.Games accepts altcoins, unlike the sites mentioned previously. But it stopped accepting bankroll investments for some reason. Maybe someday they'll change their mind? Cheesy
129  Economy / Economics / Re: The collapse of central banks...Inevitable? on: April 22, 2024, 11:18:30 AM
"collapse of central banks" – that's some strong stuff. Some want to tear it down due to high inflation and declining faith in the system. I understand impatience. But eliminating central banks? That's drastic, like throwing away your toolbox because the hammer's rusty

Bitcoin as the savior? Okay. Bitcoin is great; a digital bunker for protecting your wealth. But as daily cash? Not yet. This is too volatile and difficult for most people. A true next-gen cryptocurrency is needed. Something stable, usable by anyone, and lightning fast. Bitcoin helped, but it's not the goal. Certainly, the system has issues. Don't despair yet. Tech is advancing rapidly, and smart people are solving problems. Not yet, but the answer is out there

Volatility is only a problem when the world still uses Fiat as a unit of account. But once goods and/or services gets valued in BTC terms, this should no longer be a problem. 1 BTC = 1 BTC, right? Bitcoin can already scale to millions of users worldwide via the help of sidechains and L2 networks. It's just that most people don't know yet how to use these solutions to save time and money. Developers must improve UX (user experience) if they want to get people on-board off-chain scaling solutions and sidechains.

Without central banks in the way, the world's economy would be decentralized. Not to mention, inflation will be a thing of the past. "Fix the money, fix the world". But the odds of this happening are slim, especially when central banks have a lot of power invested in them. If things keep going south, they could "reset" the economy to remedy the situation. At least, temporarily. As long as governments exist, don't expect Fiat currencies to disappear anytime soon. Smiley
130  Economy / Services / Re: [Crypto.Games] ★ Signature Campaign ★ Hero - Legendary[Full] ★ on: April 20, 2024, 08:02:51 PM
Paid

Got it! Thanks again! Cheesy
131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Whatever happened to decentralized marketplaces? on: April 19, 2024, 03:40:25 PM
They are useful, so I won't say that they are fading but it's just that they are not heavily promoted and then there are more projects under the meme coins because they are more easier to create. They are always in the trend because there is always a meme that are created in the internet.

This is why we think the focus is mostly on them but trust me it isn't because most of them are nothing but only just a money grab. Silk Road is a kind of black market and it's different from the two decentralized marketplaces you mentioned there whose intentions are only clean/good. So I don't think that was one of the cause of what you think their "fade away".

Even if intentions are good, that doesn't mean someone won't use it for bad things. Decentralization is a double-edged sword. Unlike centralized marketplaces, you can't enforce regulatory action on decentralized alternatives. I guess that's why the general public is afraid of going all in decentralized marketplaces. It's more convenient and safer to use a centralized marketplace (eBay, Amazon) that's regulatory-compliant.

Expect decentralized alternatives to remain a niche for as long as they live. At least we have a choice. Who knows what surprises we'll find in the future? Smiley
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tether Seems like Sound money on: April 19, 2024, 03:37:49 PM
We will have more of these stablecoins, it's reported that Ripple will also be launching their own stable coin so I don't know if that's the way for them to pump their own XRP coin as for sure there will be more buyouts of it to move the price just as what Tether did to BTC before.
Ripple to launch U.S. dollar stablecoin, taking on a $150 billion market dominated by Tether, Circle

Of course. Ripple will bring its own stablecoin to try to compete against Tether/USDT. But it won't succeed, especially when the latter has first-mover advantage. Tether will remain the "King of Stablecoins" until it goes all the way down the drain in an instant. We can't say it's "sound money" when it's backed by a private company. Without investor protections or guarantees of any kind, you're on your own.

At least, we have plenty of alternatives to choose from. As long as you refrain yourself from putting all of your life savings into stablecoins, there should be nothing to worry about. Who knows how regulations will shape the stablecoins industry in the future? Grin
133  Economy / Speculation / Re: BitcoinETF approval will possibly cause much bigger jump than most people expect on: April 19, 2024, 03:13:51 PM
Rumor is Hong Kong ETF could be approved tomorrow.
Market impact is dubious, as ETF market is tiny there when compared to the US.
Maybe the avid Bitcoin buyers from mainland China, will flock this new government friendly alternative and it will be a blowout.
Who knows?

Yes. Spot ETF approvals are starting to reach the world. It won't be long before most countries go all in Bitcoin. This will create a supply shock, effectively rising market prices over the long term. A win-win for both retail and institutional investors.

I hope these moves don't compromise Bitcoin's decentralization in the long run. I understand network consensus is completely independent from economic holders, but concentration of supply among a few brings inequality into the system. Imagine what influence corporate giants will have over BTC miners with their large holdings. I'm just speculating here. We can't predict the future, so lets hope for the best. Smiley
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any other coins like Primecoin? on: April 19, 2024, 02:20:37 PM
I think there’s really not much coins that are mathematically innovative that are considered part of the mainstream coins or those with lots of support and value. There is one though MATH.

It also involves prime factorization among other mathematical computations. Its price is 0.5 usd so it’s not as bad as I would say. There are a lot more out there that aren’ just explored or probably have been long dead already

Of course not. Nowadays, there are many "shitcoins" that are straight clones from the other. Particularly "meme" coins. Developers shifted their focus from quality into quantity. I'd say Primecoin is a kind-of-a-kind PoW cryptocurrency that made its mark in the crypto industry. The code is open source, so what's stopping someone from improving it or making a new project from scratch?

It's a pity that a good project like Primecoin was left behind in the dust. Peercoin was made by the same creator but it's still actively maintained by the community. I guess there's not much interest in PoW coins these days. Hopeefully, there are other alternatives meant to keep the idea of prime number mining alive. Who knows what surprises we'll find in the future? Cheesy
135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in a casino's bankroll...Still worth it in 2024? on: April 19, 2024, 02:17:23 PM
Investing a an online casino's bankroll is risk and the answer to whether it is still worth investing in their bankroll depends on how much risk you can carry.

I do not actively invest. You will find this very old thread but interesting one of the users recorded their monthly returns for a year after investing 5 bitcoins in 5 gambling sites namely BetKing, MoneyPots, SafeDice, Crypto-Games, Satoshi Dice. After some months, they added Bitvest, KingDice.

One DarkStar_ also invested in bustadice and bustabit.

I know its old but you should check them out
thread 1 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.msg46096925#msg46096925
thread 2 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.msg15919142#msg15919142

Yes. Investors did make a lot back then when crypto gambling sites allowed bankroll investments. The one under my sig was the most profitable. Unfortunately, it no longer provides us the option to invest in its bankroll. I believe the main reason why most gambling sites stopped doing this was because of strict government regulations. They're afraid to get "flagged" by the government once they allow bankroll investments without KYC.

I dunno. I guess we'd have to find other options to grow our BTC. I've read Freebitco.in is giving around 4% APR for Bitcoin deposits. It's not a gambling site, though. Sad


I miss the days when Crypto Games ran its own investment scheme, I managed to strike up 50% returns in a year over there. It was soon shut down while the site continues to grow and operate on a large scale.

We recently had a thread discussing the similar topic, it seems sites are less inclined to accept public investments anymore since crypto has gradually become mainstream and owners no longer find it difficult to raise money for bankrolls.

Check out mindrust's topic here for detailed analysis of some investment schemes currently running -
   
[GUIDE] Best Crypto Investment Opportunities for Passive Income -2024


Me too. I often saw the opportunity to invest directly into Crypto Games' bankroll, but was hesistant to do so out of fear from getting scammed. I was just getting started in the world of crypto and didn't know much back then. As a result of getting ripped off from cloud mining programs, I was skeptical about investing in a crypto casino's bankroll. Totally regret not doing the right thing in the first place.

Nowadays, it's hard find a gambling site which allows us to invest into its bankroll. I feel obliged to look for other options.
136  Economy / Economics / Re: Will the world soon become tired of the US dollar? on: April 18, 2024, 05:56:59 PM
USD will still be used. i don't think anyone can remove it as a major currency especially now that we have USDT and the rest of the stablecoins. El Salvador still uses USD along with BTC, if they start using Yuan, i bet the US officials will fly there for regime change.

eventually, everyone in the future will be using stablecoins and maybe the Euro, Rial, Ruble, Yuan, and Peso and all the rest of the currencies will have their stablecoin. but there will still be dominance for USD particularly in America.

In the timebeing. But a collapse is inevitable. Especially when nothing lasts forever. We're already witnessing the decline of America with politicians' actions. The "de-dollarization" of the world's economy is a process that will take quite some time before it materializes (slow and steady pace).

I believe rising US national debt, and the funding of wars will lead America towards its complete demise. Trillions of dollars (USD) have been wasted ever since the COVID-19 pandemic took the world by storm. Who's to say China and/or Russia will establish a "New World Order" in the future? I'd bet the new reserve currency will be one of their own. It'll be a "miracle" if BTC becomes the world's next reserve currency. We can't predict the future, so lets hope for the best. Wink
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Solana blockchain on: April 18, 2024, 05:52:01 PM
Well Solana has now handled more then $7 Million in nft sales just in the last 24 hours. This was more then Bitcoin that had $6.9 Million in last 24 hours.
I am still very 'bullish' on this coin. I think it is a good alt to have in our crypto portfolio, I think it is going to moon again more then $200 in next 'bull run'.
https://ambcrypto.com/solana-surpasses-bitcoin-on-this-front-good-news-for-sol-investors/

I would've wished the Solana dev team focused on reliability more than anything else. The network often experiences congestion, and at times, outages. What's "pumping" SOL's market price is none other than the "meme" coins craze. That, and also the recent sale of the Saga smartphone. The upcoming Firedancer node software release promises to fix network outages once and for all, though.

We'll see whenever Solana will be able to truly live up to its name or not. So far, nothing can beat the "King of Altcoins" (which is ETH). Even though Ethereum is slow and expensive at times, you can always switch to a L2 network (Arbitrum, Polygon, Base, Optimism) for complete peace of mind. No outages or network disruptions of any kind. Even BTC has been running without issues since day one. Who knows what will be the future of Solana? Cheesy
138  Economy / Economics / Re: The collapse of central banks...Inevitable? on: April 18, 2024, 05:46:31 PM
Javier Milei never suggested that the central banks should be abolished. He suggested that the central bank of Argentina should be closed down and Argentina should accept the US dollar as a national currency, which means that the United States Federal Reserve would become something like a new central bank for Argentina.
I don't see any people losing faith in the traditional financial system. The people keep using cash, credit and debit cards. Almost nobody switched completely to crypto.
The global economy isn't deteriorating. The global GDP is growing. The fact that some countries are having a hard time doesn't mean that the global economy is deteriorating.

Abolishing and "shutting down" aren't the same thing? Without central banks, the economy can't be manipulated by corrupt politicians. Separating money from the State is the first step towards "fixing the world". We the people, have given too much power to the government and central banks. So they will continue to do as they please, even if the economy continues to sink all the way down the drain. You can see why governments in the past (particularly the US government) have bailed out banks in times of financial crisis.

Bitcoin was created as a response against banks' and governments' mishandling of the economy. No central authority means greater fairness and financial inclusion. I know BTC has failed to replace banks so far, but that does't mean it's the "end of the world". If by any chance central banks collapse, you can bet the world will abandon the Fiat Standard and move all the way to the Bitcoin Standard. Prices of goods and/or services will be denominated in BTC instead of Fiat. Wouldn't it be great to live in a society where people have control over their own money? Not governments or corrupt banks. Nothing is set in stone, so anything's possible. Smiley
139  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Selling BTC for foreign currencies on: April 18, 2024, 05:43:38 PM
I don't see how it would be illegal. And it's probably possible as well, although I haven't tried it yet except with USD, which is foreign yet widely available. So it would also highly depend on the foreign currency you wish to convert your Bitcoin into. If you're in the US and ask for Thailand baht or Myanmar kyat or Mongolian Tugrik for your Bitcoin, that would be pretty difficult, but still possible as you may link yourself with their local communities in your country and transact face to face.

However, these are all unnecessary hassles.

I think P2P or F2F is better. Especially if I want to avoid KYC and whatnot. I live in a Western country, so crypto laws are much more flexible than places like China or Russia. I don't think it would be illegal to exchange BTC to a foreign currency in my home country. Laws are constanly changing, so who knows what would be of foreign crypto exchanges in the future?

I've wondered if people sell their foreign currencies for BTC, wouldn't that classify them as a "money transmitter"? Doing such a thing without a money transmitter license could be considered illegal. I dunno. Perhaps, it's best to sell BTC into your local currency, then exchange your local currency at a bank for a foreign currency. The only problem is the fees. But at least, you'll get the job done in a legitimate manner. Grin
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ORE tokens...Worth it? on: April 18, 2024, 05:39:51 PM
I used mine electroneum on my phone.i collected some but it didnt work out my all coins were useless.app stopped working.end with nothing.after that i never look pow coins related with phone.

It could be nothing more than a scam. But at least, the idea is there. I've read about a PoW algorithm which promised to make mining more efficient on low-powered devices. I believe it was the Cuckoo Cycle algorithm used by aeternity. Haven't heard about the project ever since "meme" coins and NFTs took the crypto world by storm. Magi (XMG), Pi.Network, and ORE are the only ones good enough to mine on a phone. The first one got abandoned by the original dev, but it's starting to gain traction as the community takes over the project.

I'm yet to see if the new ORE token is worth mining on a phone. Been sluggish enough to give it a try. Wanted to know someone's else's experience before going all in. Who's to say you can't have fun mining on the go? Cheesy
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