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1201  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 09:04:34 PM
This probably means War.

On April 19th the AIIP, the new Chinese SWIFT bank goes online and this completely bypasses the dollar for all international trade.

If it's not against the law, then it would be ok right?
After all it is just an alternative, and is independent from other financial companies.
No one can do a thing about it, I actually think its good for getting away from the biggest ponzi ever.

It´s a threat to the dollar and this sometimes means war. People have for instance tried to sell oil for other currencies and this has brought total catastrophe upon them.

The dollar cannot be number one currency all the time, who do they think they are.
I wish Saddam would have traded his oil using the dinar now, before the U.S. found out.
But he opened his mouth and paid the ultimate price, no one will go to war with China imo.

Isn't this off topic? Or will Trump have his say on this?


It is a very good subject that needs its own thread.

 Smiley

1202  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? Support Your Position With Direct Quotes. on: April 11, 2016, 09:01:46 PM
Maybe the forum fairy deleted my last posts.....

You know as well as I do, that quote was made by Trump, it wasn't misconstrued nor taken out of context. I didn't provide a link as you keep changing the goal posts in the OP.

Not to worry, the next quote with be sourced straight from his voicebox.

Are you blind? I told you I deleted them. There were no changing goal posts, the very first OP had the requirements of a directly sourced quote, I added more detail for people with reading comprehension problems such as yourself. I am trying to be fair, I know you have trouble with simple directions, so I thought I would ad some advice to clarify what you clearly aren't comprehending in simple English. I look forward to your directly sourced quote.


Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me, that was very kind of you.

Trump has said (and done) a lot of stupid things over the years, there are entire lists of retarded quotes (maybe you could help again and google them for me).





1203  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 05:18:39 PM
A New Jersey man faces fines or jail time for flying Donald Trump campaign flags in front of his home.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/04/11/new-jersey-homeowner-may-face-jail-for-flying-trump-flag/

Joe Hornick has been flying the flags since February and faces up to a $2,000 fine or 90 days in jail for allegedly violating a local ordinance that restricts posting political lawn signs more than 30 days before an election. The local NBC affiliate reports:

Joe Hornick has been flying Trump’s “Make America Great Again” flag outside his West Long Branch home on a busy corner near the Monmouth University campus for months.

But he got a ticket recently citing him for illegally posting political signage more than 30 days before an election. The New Jersey presidential primary isn’t until June 7.

“I’m not a football fan, I’m not a sports fan, but I’m surely a Donald Trump fan,” he told NBC 4 New York.

Hornick actually flies two Trump flags day and night, and lights them up when it gets dark. They’ve been ripped down five times so far.

“Let them come, let them rip those flags down because I have a warehouse on alert, and I’ll put up a flag every time they tear one down,” he said.

Hornick is ready to face a judge. If he loses the flag fight in court. Hornick is prepared to serve the sentence.


NJ.com reports that Hornick was shocked to learn he was issued a ticket and accused of violating a borough ordinance on the public display of political signs. After his flags were vandalized or ripped down by people repeatedly, he thought the police would be focused instead on the vandals. He was wrong:

“Here I am looking for the cops to capture these people and instead, here they come and give me a ticket for my freedom of expression,” Hornick said on Thursday.

A former Long Branch firefighter, Hornick contends the ordinance doesn’t apply to him because he’s not displaying a lawn sign – he’s flying a flag, just like any sports fan would fly a flag expressing their enthusiasm for their favorite team.

But West Long Branch doesn’t see it that way. The borough attorney told police a flag is indeed considered a lawn sign under the ordinance and under previous court rulings, according to the police report Hornick provided to NJ Advance Media.

The report said borough resident Brian Hegarty – a former Democratic councilman and a distant neighbor of Hornick’s – called police on March 25 to question why his complaints to the municipal code enforcement officer about the flags resulted on no violations for Hornick.

Hornick, a Republican in a GOP-controlled town, said a police official called him that day to tell him about the potential violation and suggested that Hornick could avoid a summons by taking down his flags.

After consulting with his attorney, Hornick called police headquarters later that day and said the flags would remain in place.

“I’m not taking the flag down, and if I do 90 days in jail, I’ll do 90 days in jail,” Hornick told reporters. He vows he will continue to exercise his freedom of speech rights.

 


Is this still America?


1204  Other / Politics & Society / Re: WeiWei the cute McDonald's girl from Taiwan. on: April 11, 2016, 05:16:14 PM



This is so random. Why not.

 Cheesy
1205  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: April 11, 2016, 04:35:50 PM


Yep.


1206  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 04:34:29 PM
The Bushs and Clintons are both part of the same criminal cartel.

Agreed, same shit different face.


Meanwhile:

Former CIA director: Military may refuse to follow Trump’s orders if he becomes president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/28/former-cia-director-military-may-refuse-to-follow-trumps-orders-if-he-becomes-president/

Quote
“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,”

Quote
"If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act"

Ouch

You agree now and yet you had a nice looking   Smiley   when you made that post. You agreed with her then and still. You cannot be for the machine and against it. You can't serve two masters.

You may not know if TRUMP will be a great president, you may hate him for what he represents to you, but you already know who were bad for the US and the world at large already.

A very hypocritical position.


Obama's drone program nets one 'terrorist' for every 9 innocent civilians dead (as in door-nail dead vs. roughed up a little.)  We 'know' this from various drone pilots who have quit in disgust and turned into whistle-blowers.  Others are offered a record setting $125,000 as a retention bonus to keep on killing innocent people which provides a pretty good indication of how morally bankrupt the program is.

Ya, 'hypocritical' is an understatement.  Ignorance and lack of intellectual curiosity is another factor.  These are several of the reasons is why I've turned my back on the 'progressives.'

I don't agree in principle or in practice with 'going after family members' and I wish Trump would be more clear about exactly what he means.  If he means investigating them as more likely to have involvement with 'crimes' and taking appropriate actions, I'm somewhat OK with that.  Otherwise, 'what goes around comes around' and the policy could turn as ugly as it seems on it's face.  My main problem is that I am increasingly convinced that the GWOT is about as scamy as the global warming fraud so the policy has no meaning.  Generally speaking, I feel that it is worth the cost for the country to try to retain the moral high-ground even when it means adding detracting somewhat to 'security' since it is a trade-off which will pay significant long-term dividends.  IMO.

edit: slight to correct an inversion

 Sad

Yet sending covert ops to kidnap a killer in the middle of his home and ship him back to gitmo for him to get waterboarded is worse.
The worse part is not killing indiscriminately 9 people for each 1 target, the thing that's disturbing is the total lack of coverage of this scandal. Not one day was going by without seeing some fools dressed in orange jump suit to fight W and gitmo. Where are they now? 

Dying in silence to protect 0bama. It is a big stupid TV show.

If you have the link of the bonus that would be cool to keep a record here.

1207  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Europe, you reap what you sow... on: April 11, 2016, 03:10:40 PM



Muslim Labour Councillor Suspended Over Claims She Called Hitler ‘Greatest Man In History’







A Labour councillor has been suspended from her party for allegedly tweeting anti-Semitic messages, said to include calling Adolf Hitler the “greatest man in history”.

In the latest such scandal to hit Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party, a 20 year old Politics and Sociology student elected last May to Luton Borough Council has been suspended from the party over anti-Semitic tweets uncovered by an investigations team from the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism.

Back in February 2013, Aysegul Gurbuz is alleged to have approvingly predicted Iran would use a nuclear weapon to “wipe Israel off the map”, using the hashtag “TEAMAHMADINEJAD”.

Other tweets credited to her account include: “Adolf Hitler = greatest man in history” (October 2011); “#iwannameet Hitler” (December 2011); “If it wasn’t for my man Hitler these Jews would’ve wiped Palestine years ago. Sorry but it’s a fact. Not hating on Jews btw” (November 2012); and “The Jews are so powerful in the US it’s disgusting” (January 2013).

One of the tweets, from October 2012, even attacked the then leader of Ms. Gurbuz’s party, Ed Miliband. Assessing his chances of becoming Prime Minister, the tweet said of the man who identifies as an atheist and Jewish through his heritage: “Ed Miliband is Jewish. He will never become prime minister of Britain.”

Ms. Gurbuz has denied tweeting the messages, reports The Mail, suggesting that her sister is the responsible party. Nevertheless a Labour Party official confirmed last night that “Councillor Gurbuz has been suspended from the Labour Party pending an investigation.” The tweets will also be referred to Luton Borough Council’s independent standards committee.

Ms. Gurbuz — who is events organiser for the Friends of Palestine society at the Univeristy of Warwick and sits on a panel supervising Bedfordshire Police — told the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism:

“It was a joint account I had with my sister so I don’t know if she’s gone out and tweeted that, but I’m absolutely appalled right now. Where I live we’ve got very good cohesion with the Jewish community… I’m absolutely shocked.”

Speaking on the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said:

“Anti-Semitism is absolutely abhorrent and wrong. Anyone that commits any act of anti-Semitism, that makes anti-Semitic remarks, is auto excluded from the party and an inquiry follows immediately.

“We have suspended, we will suspend, any member that behaves in that way.”

According to a report in The Mail, commenting on the Labour Party’s recent problems with anti-Semitism, Lord Carey — a former Archbishop of Canterbury and current vice-president of the Council of Christians and Jews — said he would not say the Labour Party is “riddled” with anti-Semitism, but the problems “are real enough” and the absence of effective action from the leadership demonstrates that “Labour is not ready to govern”.


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/10/muslim-labour-councillor-suspended-over-claims-she-called-hitler-greatest-man-in-history/


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It is not a sin if you lie to an infidel.


1208  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 03:07:16 PM
The Bushs and Clintons are both part of the same criminal cartel.

Agreed, same shit different face.


Meanwhile:

Former CIA director: Military may refuse to follow Trump’s orders if he becomes president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/28/former-cia-director-military-may-refuse-to-follow-trumps-orders-if-he-becomes-president/

Quote
“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,”

Quote
"If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act"

Ouch


You agree now and yet you had a nice looking   Smiley   when you made that post. You agreed with her then and still. You cannot be for the machine and against it. You can't serve two masters.

You may not know if TRUMP will be a great president, you may hate him for what he represents to you, but you already know who were bad for the US and the world at large already.

A very hypocritical position.


1209  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? Support Your Position With Direct Quotes. on: April 11, 2016, 03:00:58 PM



Do you realize anyone finding racist, bigoted direct quotes now could have saved the anti TRUMP machine  $560M+? If I had such quote I would go straight to the anti TRUMP machine and make a deal, but not post it here in this thread, for free...

The Holy Grail of direct quotes...

 Cool


1210  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? Support Your Position With Direct Quotes. on: April 11, 2016, 04:46:33 AM



... And that is why, ladies and gentlemen, a berniebot is a berniebot  is a berniebot is about obfuscations is about obfuscations is about obfuscations is a berniebot...

No Direct quotes yet. That's the only fact you need to remember when going through all the misdirection by the robot.


1211  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? Support Your Position With Direct Quotes. on: April 11, 2016, 04:09:25 AM
Only an ignorant Trump supporter would make/read a self-moderated topic like this

It's a shame you deleted any posts from the opposition... classy


Opposition of what? Reading comprehension?

1212  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 03:45:16 AM







Wow.  He's right.

the 2 Party system is WAY corrupt.

No room for "Outsiders..."  ("right" or "left!")

Face it.  Bernie is not a Democrat.  He's a Socialist.

Face it.  Trump is not a Republican.  He's a Fascist.
What Trump actually is happens to be a rich man who believes he magically has diplomatic immunity because he says things that normal politicians wouldn't say. In other words, he doesn't have that proper politician filter. In fact, that reason alone is why he probably shouldn't be president. People want a president who's gonna be respectful of people's thoughts. You don't have to agree with someone to respect them.

So politicians can be trusted because they use "filters", but not TRUMP because he is not lying to you? Liars should be trusted, not truth tellers?

... 1984...



OK, sure.

First, there is a difference between telling someone's personal truth vs. "The Truth," which is pretty darn hard to ascertain.

I equate "Fascism" with criminalizing & deporting entire populations based on nationality, (Mexico) or religion, (Muslim.)
I am all for truth. I just want it said in a way where it's actually respectable. Donald honestly does not understand what it takes to be a likeable presidential candidate. Honestly. He says the most horrendous things. I would never support a man who thinks 1 million dollars isn't much money, and does not even respect women enough where he has openly said he sees women to be objects.


Nothing you write is based on fact, reality but on your superficial feelings. You do not want politicians to hurt your feelings so you rather respect politicians that lie than a man that looks you in the eyes and tells you the truth.

That's the life you have chosen for yourself, your friends and your family. You should be grateful your ancestors were not like that. That is why you are alive today.


1213  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 03:37:04 AM







Wow.  He's right.

the 2 Party system is WAY corrupt.

No room for "Outsiders..."  ("right" or "left!")

Face it.  Bernie is not a Democrat.  He's a Socialist.

Face it.  Trump is not a Republican.  He's a Fascist.
What Trump actually is happens to be a rich man who believes he magically has diplomatic immunity because he says things that normal politicians wouldn't say. In other words, he doesn't have that proper politician filter. In fact, that reason alone is why he probably shouldn't be president. People want a president who's gonna be respectful of people's thoughts. You don't have to agree with someone to respect them.

So politicians can be trusted because they use "filters", but not TRUMP because he is not lying to you? Liars should be trusted, not truth tellers?

... 1984...



OK, sure.

First, there is a difference between telling someone's personal truth vs. "The Truth," which is pretty darn hard to ascertain.

I equate "Fascism" with criminalizing & deporting entire populations based on nationality, (Mexico) or religion, (Muslim.)


The belief that all mexicans in the US are illegals is a sad racist concept to tell you The Truth... Something TRUMP never said or believed.

At least you believe islam is a religion and not a race. I'll give you that.

 Smiley

1214  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 03:31:31 AM



Meanwhile TRUMP is still not a racist, but a lot of people saying he is... are.




I NEVER said "He are a racist!!!"


I never said I was talking about you. The voice you hear in your head does not belong to me.

 Cool





Um...I was referring to your "English."

Gracias.



De nada amigo.


Watch out! Too loud! We risk both to be deported by TRUMP back in mexico, in a ghetto full of blacks selling AIDS in crack pipes...

 Cool

1215  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 03:12:28 AM







Wow.  He's right.

the 2 Party system is WAY corrupt.

No room for "Outsiders..."  ("right" or "left!")

Face it.  Bernie is not a Democrat.  He's a Socialist.

Face it.  Trump is not a Republican.  He's a Fascist.
What Trump actually is happens to be a rich man who believes he magically has diplomatic immunity because he says things that normal politicians wouldn't say. In other words, he doesn't have that proper politician filter. In fact, that reason alone is why he probably shouldn't be president. People want a president who's gonna be respectful of people's thoughts. You don't have to agree with someone to respect them.

So politicians can be trusted because they use "filters", but not TRUMP because he is not lying to you? Liars should be trusted, not truth tellers?

... 1984...

1216  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 03:08:41 AM



Meanwhile TRUMP is still not a racist, but a lot of people saying he is... are.




I NEVER said "He are a racist!!!"


I never said I was talking about you. The voice you hear in your head does not belong to me.

 Cool





Um...I was referring to your "English."

Gracias.

1217  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 02:59:34 AM



Meanwhile TRUMP is still not a racist, but a lot of people saying he is... are.




I NEVER said "He are a racist!!!"


I never said I was talking about you. The voice you hear in your head does not belong to me.

 Cool


1218  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? Support Your Position With Direct Quotes. on: April 11, 2016, 02:57:25 AM


Sadly, the more muslims like him tell the truth, the bigger the target on their back becomes, making TRUMP's point... on target. (sorry for the pun)


1219  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 02:53:58 AM





1220  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 11, 2016, 02:51:37 AM



Meanwhile TRUMP is still not a racist, but a lot of people saying he is... are.


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