Remember when the goal was to get 21BTC, which surely would put any of those folks who had been able to HODL onto that amount as being in a very decent position at $100k per coin, and now there are a lot of meme-ing around the random 6.15BTC goal, which seems to rely on BTC going much higher than $100k per coin in order to really be comfortable.

I guess that part of my point is that amount of BTC goals are going down and down and down.  Of course, we have those who are either with a mediocre budget or are just getting in striving to get to 1BTC and more.  There have surely been some of those folks participating in this thread.  At some point, we are going to have peeps aspiring to get 1 million satoshis... or whatever other reasonable amount becomes our new deflationary goalpost point.

That is strange that they are getting excited about such small amounts.  I suppose that it can seem somewhat deceptive if an agent is asking you how much you are carrying, and you say $100 while you are carrying $9k, so that could raise some suspicions.

But the fact that the agents seem to want to add up the amounts in order to arrive at a number that seems higher and violative, but really are they going to be able to establish that the flight attendants were working together somehow, because otherwise the case should have to be considered on an individual by individual basis?

I guess a bothersome aspect remains that there can be all kinds of tricks to attempt to allege that innocent people are engaging in bad conduct in order to take their money (or valuables), and ultimately, even if these flight attendants were conspiring, the amount is still small fry to suggest that they are not properly declaring the value brought in (engaging in innocent arbitrage opportunities, not money laundering... money laundering just sounds so much worse than what could have been happening if they actually had been working together).

What are you trying to say, hairy mcbary?  Are you trying to say that we are largely "on track"?

Yep... Well, you are exercising some pretty poor techniques, so maybe you need to go to gamblers anonymous and get some treatment?

Because you should NOT be even capable of losing that much at today's BTC price, especially if you are only stacking sats.

I never heard it expressed like that, previously. So, learning, learning, learning.

In this thread, I unexpectingly be learning lots.  

I largely agree with the premise that trading tends to be a losing game, and the reason is because the vast majority of peeps who attempt it do it in a manner in which they are attempting to predict BTC's short term price direction, which is also known as gambling.

If you engage in a kind of trading that either does NOT attempt to predict BTC's price direction or at least only engages in bare minimum prediction attempts, then in a market, such as bitcoin, you can profit from such a system without hardly even thinking about it.  Anyhow, as you already suggested, I have beaten aspects of this horse to death.... so I can hold off a little bit on my beating efforts for the time being.   

There are a variety of trading styles and practices.  Some of them are more risk taking than others, and some of them are just taking advantage of bitcoin's inevitable volatility in order to profit from such volatility without getting greedy about it.



Fair enough.  I was just responding to the substance of the matter and not really to you personally, even though I threatened with batman.. just for funzies.  


That's why the forum has an "open door" policy in order that peeps like you can set us straight. (no homo)   

You must be really screwing things up if you have 80% losses at this point.

How long have you been in this Negotiation?   Since June?  Even then, fuck you really need a batman slap, no?

Even though meme in the referred to tweet seems to take Phil_S's side in this matter, it is funny as fuck, so I won't bring out batman for you or your team, micpeep.     Surprising what can be done with memes these days.

Perhaps.

But one issue is that bitcoin tends to be a bit more volatile, so you seem to be projecting (or perhaps hoping) for a kind of price stability that is not very much a part of current BTC price dynamics.

We have a war going on, and you are expecting "reasonable?"

Get real, Phil_S.

Otherwise gonna have to bring out batman.

 




5 digits is the new shelling point.  Maybe you are having some trouble seeing such 5 digits, at the moment because of actual prices? 

And you might need to rub your eyes and shake your head to get used to our new 5 digits shelling point.



Get real, Pamoldar.

Otherwise gonna have to bring out batman.

 

Sometimes we just take a chance when we dish out smerits (full disclosure, I gave him an smerit too).

Some of them actually do become better posters, but usually if they really suck, they will tend to NOT get too many merits in the long run.  A few wasted merits, here and there is not going to end the better aspects of the world, including the forum.

You must be new in these parts, jupiter9?

Point is that it does not even matter if Lauda is correct or not.  Only rarely is there any semblance of a reason to actually support dee snot-nosed roachie poachie, except perhaps is he is inadvertently saying something smart, which again tends to be an extremely rare happening.

Fuck the graphs beyond just allowing us to visualize degrees of movement rather than any kind of level of certainty that is sometimes ascribed to them.

Conceding that bitcoin can make a vast array of outrageous price movements and retrospectively we can look back at "what it did" and assert that it was within the realm of expectations - even if a bit outrageous.  In other words, we are kind of used to being shocked by what bitcoin does... especially while in the midst of the doings..

So in that sense it is possible that BTC could front run all of this and get to $100k in 3 months or even less, but in my humble bumble (and sometimes not so humble) thinking, the more prudent scenarios would put 12 months from now as within the range of the minimum of the best case (prudent) scenarios. 

More realistically we are talking 12 to 18 months after the halvening (which would be 18 months to 24 months from now) before we would breaking into or even touching upon $100k BTC prices.

Sure, there are also relatively prudent scenarios that would allow for a BIGGER battles taking place this time around and in this 4 year fractal pattern, which would cause a seeming break from the fractal pattern and would cause a much longer period before BTC reaches $100k - perhaps even adding another halvening into the mix before we even are able to reach $100k. 

Therefore, even though we feel real wonderful about how bitcoin's price movements have played out so far in our lives to cause a lot of us to become way the fuck richer than we thought and to have become richer much faster than we thought, we should not be allowing such previous patterns to cause us to become too complacent in our BTC price expectations - and treating probably events as givens - which means that even adding another 4 years to whatever had been previously expressed as prudent possible scenarios could allow us NOT to get our hopes up too much, and even those kinds of extra 4 years to reach $100k could still be relatively bullish for bitcoin as long as BTC prices don't go below $5k for extended periods of time  - or worse yet to go back to testing $3,122 support seems almost out of the question, even though it could end up playing out as bullish in the long run. 

Don't get me wrong, absent some outrageous bitcoin breaking scenario, I would assign really low probabilities to $3,122 being revisited, probably even less than 12%, and even getting back to below $6.5k seems to be less than 40%.. maybe even lower than that could be a prudent assertion, now.  I think that my point is that even having decent odds in our favor and making bitcoin to be likely one of the best investments currently on the market, there are a decently large number of scenarios (and even prudent ones) in which the more probable event (going to $100k and beyond within 12 to 18 months after the upcoming halvening) does not end up playing out.

Don't be calling me a bear, you fucks.     I am merely a cautious bull who does not want to either count my chickens before they are hatched or to create expectations that are so goddamned high that inevitably I am going to end up disappointed.  I feel a little better when my situation evolves in such a way that ends up exceeding my expectations, and even with a bit of a cushion of exceedingness - which surely has been my experiences with bitcoin, so far to date. 

By the way, in bitcoin, I am about 8x to 12x above my expectations depending on how the matter is framed, so there would have to be some pretty extreme shitty-ass situations happen in bitcoin before I would start to feel that bitcoin has either underperformed my expectations or lead me to a worse situation (psychologically and/or financially), and even if some of the extreme shitty-ass situations were to end up playing out, I am not without some abilities to attempt to recognize the shitty situation and to mitigate my losses, and at the same time, there could also have been some satisfaction for having been on this so far crazy-ass ride.

Soon^tm we are going to be able to proclaim that 4 digits are gone forever, but will "we" be correct this time?   

Didn't you get r3ckt enough, recently?  Or you just want to keep on acting like a dumb who thinks that he knows "things"?

You seem to be a bit all over the place in your logic, and you really think that there is any kind of accuracy to say that bitcoin converted to a bear market in July?  The more logical assertion would be to assert that the April to June price rise was a bull trap.  Of course, not a convincing story, but flip flopping is even less convincing.

Hey do whatever you like in terms of shorting, or at least utilizing that tool if you really believe that odds are greater for down than up right now.

Even though you might feel more comfortable with a 10x BTC price appreciation, we surely don't need any kind of 10x price appreciation for people to be able to figure out ways to profit stupendously from being into btc.

As far as your desire to accumulate more BTC, you might well realize that there are ways just to play larger swings without engaging in too much gambling or too many needs to talk your book... but whatever, you can do what you like...  I only have so much sympathy for seemingly illogical bear talk when we are way the fuck more likely to be in a bull market, and sure maybe I should not be losing my patience because it is possible that you are correct and bitcoin is so fucking irrational as to be flip flopping in the way that you (and various other disingenuous peeps, shills or seemingly retards) seem to be suggesting.


You are getting a bit annoying with your ongoing wishful thinking DOWN talk, lambie....   Haven't you been wrong enough recently, especially with the 42% price rise in one day kind of fucking up the supposed downtrend? Also, in our rise to $13,880, I recall that you were down talking from about $7k and upwards and expecting a correction that did not end up happening until we got to nearly $14k....  Also, getting all CITEEEEEEEEEEE with any little tiny eeenie weeenie price move downward (even when largely insignificant and acting like there is some kind of down significance to normal range corrections after an upsurge)   almost like Alexander_Z (refer above).  

 
I hope that BTC punishes you, and you are only able to buy .125BTC due to BTC price doubling.   FTW.   Go bitcoin go.   

1) looks like roach found a way to hook you.

2) you think that roach actually even wants to understand what he is supposedly rebutting?  Usually, to the extent that he is not totally out there in left field, he wants to spout out his nonsense while making it appear that he is somehow somewhat on topic.

Call me a skeptic, but seems a bit overly bearish to suggest that bitcoin is not going to break above old ATH until October 2024-ish.

It is like they are locking themselves into some kind of formula and failing and refusing to take into account what seems to be real bullish underlying dynamics that exist in bitcoin's currently low level of adoption and the likely exponential growth that is likely going to put upwards price pressures on bitcoin much sooner than October 2024.