The joint, I agree that you should have gotten at least 50% of the prize winnings. But it doesn't do you any good to argue it to death. You didn't pay to enter the contest, therefore, if the guy who is giving away the money wants to make a ruling that doesn't favor you, he has full power to do so.
Believe me, I understand how it must feel to know you won something and have it given to someone else. But you have to let go of things that are out of your control. Life is too short for this.
Like I said earlier, the amount doesn't matter. Holy shit, thanks for not reading. Good luck pal. No, I read it. Letting go and acting on a belief are not mutually exclusive. What's that belief? Life is fair? You have a lot to learn...especially about how to talk to people without sounding like a entitled ass. Ironic. Is it? Please elaborate. You might be able to fit your other foot in your mouth too. |
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The joint, I agree that you should have gotten at least 50% of the prize winnings. But it doesn't do you any good to argue it to death. You didn't pay to enter the contest, therefore, if the guy who is giving away the money wants to make a ruling that doesn't favor you, he has full power to do so.
Believe me, I understand how it must feel to know you won something and have it given to someone else. But you have to let go of things that are out of your control. Life is too short for this.
Like I said earlier, the amount doesn't matter. Holy shit, thanks for not reading. Good luck pal. No, I read it. Letting go and acting on a belief are not mutually exclusive. What's that belief? Life is fair? You have a lot to learn...especially about how to talk to people without sounding like a entitled ass. |
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The joint, I agree that you should have gotten at least 50% of the prize winnings. But it doesn't do you any good to argue it to death. You didn't pay to enter the contest, therefore, if the guy who is giving away the money wants to make a ruling that doesn't favor you, he has full power to do so.
Believe me, I understand how it must feel to know you won something and have it given to someone else. But you have to let go of things that are out of your control. Life is too short for this.
Like I said earlier, the amount doesn't matter. Holy shit, thanks for not reading. Good luck pal. |
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The joint, I agree that you should have gotten at least 50% of the prize winnings. But it doesn't do you any good to argue it to death. You didn't pay to enter the contest, therefore, if the guy who is giving away the money wants to make a ruling that doesn't favor you, he has full power to do so.
Believe me, I understand how it must feel to know you won something and have it given to someone else. But you have to let go of things that are out of your control. Life is too short for this.
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Why?
Because he inflates a bubble. He could buy these bitcoins in a long timeframe, if he is long-term investor. And he should create steps on both sides if he is short-term speculator. Right now he set his bit like a poseur. It's not one person. Think about what you're suggesting. |
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Thanks, but I am sure. This is a dedicated rig and usage is near 0% when it's not mining. It's been a while since I tried phoenix though, I'll give it another shot, but in the past phoenix made things worse as far as resources go.
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It sounds like your customer service experience was horrible. I hope these guys and all exchanges are taking notes.
One thing that really bugs me is this "oh, we're going to need 5 kinds of ID and all kinds of personal information, but we won't tell you that until we have your money."
Not cool guys. If you're asking for that stuff it needs to be in bold red text an inch high on the deposit page.
Be up front with ALL your terms and conditions; people will appreciate it.
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I tried this and can't really recommend it. Performance was back to normal, but total core usage fluctuates between 20-50% each on all cores (4 core). If you quarantine the processes to 1 core, one of the cards can't get more than 96% and loses mhash, and that core's usage goes back to 100%. (Previously all 3 were steady at 99%.) This rig was a 3x 5830 Win7 64x AMD x4 core. Thanks for the suggestion though. It might work better for other setups. |
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You know, I don't think the exchange rate would've ever gone below $10 if we hadn't had the bad news from several big bitcoin sites. That is, mtgox, mybitcoin and bitomat. The effect of those is clearly visible if you analyze the transaction sizes happening on the bitcoin network. Transactions moving 2000+ BTC vanished fast after mybitcoin and bitomat news broke out.
I agree. +1... goddamn scammers You guys are so wrong you can't even imagine how wrong you are. The downturn in Bitcoin price from June 2011 would have come no matter what, the inflation at that time was over 50 %, that is crazy numbers (knowing the price went up that fast), as I have said before, bulls and bears think as a herd. When things start to move up everyone wants to be in, when it goes down everyone panics at the same time. But from a fundamental point of view the inflation will put pressure on the price. This is more a short term thing. Now we had a couple of this herd mentality actions on the up side. Next time it should be for the downside. Cool. How much are you shorting right now? This is what I wrote before (when it was stable at 3.20). Read it carefully. Exactly what I said happened, short term interest wanted the price at 3.50 and higher. I also said the "manipulator" wanted the price not much higher than 3.20 because they now understand the fundamentals, exactly that happened as well when they sold it down again to 3.20. My prediction now is that this was the last bull herd mentality up-tick, it will last maybe 2-3 days more maximum and then there will build up a panic for the down side, but the time frame for that is hard to know, probably within 1-2 months. From before: "You are making the wrong assumption, this market is manipulated. This is how I see it, the price should be higher than 3.50 USD right now if everything was played as it normally is if you look at the order depth and knowing that it is very hard to get under 3 USD right now. Someone is building up this manipulation, I think they have bought a lot of bitcoins, they really don't want the price to go down, but at the same time they understand fundamentals so they are selling at 3.20 USD and over, by doing this and have a lot of buy order in the market, they are forcing this fake or manipulated stable behavior. At the same time they don't lose that much UDS or BTC, so they are playing the game of manipulating well (right now). The only way they can lose is if someone will sell massively in to this (fake) bid walls, then they will panic as always and the inflation and panic after that will make it worse. The thing is that we are at 3 USD and the downside is not that big. I think they have by doing this fundamentally put BTC around 1 dollar higher than it should be, but it is at a cost and right now we are printing 2,6 million BTC more until Dec 2012, so they will probably lose (again) in the end. Time is on the downside." Cool. So how much are you shorting right now? |
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You know, I don't think the exchange rate would've ever gone below $10 if we hadn't had the bad news from several big bitcoin sites. That is, mtgox, mybitcoin and bitomat. The effect of those is clearly visible if you analyze the transaction sizes happening on the bitcoin network. Transactions moving 2000+ BTC vanished fast after mybitcoin and bitomat news broke out.
I agree. +1... goddamn scammers You guys are so wrong you can't even imagine how wrong you are. The downturn in Bitcoin price from June 2011 would have come no matter what, the inflation at that time was over 50 %, that is crazy numbers (knowing the price went up that fast), as I have said before, bulls and bears think as a herd. When things start to move up everyone wants to be in, when it goes down everyone panics at the same time. But from a fundamental point of view the inflation will put pressure on the price. This is more a short term thing. Now we had a couple of this herd mentality actions on the up side. Next time it should be for the downside. Cool. How much are you shorting right now? |
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I'm referring to pretty much every post he's made, not just this one. What a bunch of negative dreck. Ummm you're talking about a guy who used to define the word bull, sure he's been a bit down over the past few months but then again who hasn't  Not trying to be argumentative, but plenty of people haven't. |
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Feels like April all over again... no ask depth and a ton of momentum.
Oh, god, no. So are you caught super short, or are you just a miserable person in general? Or are you just misinterpreting him? I think he doesn't want the Bitcoin to go through yet another bubble. He doesn't mind it rising steadily but slowly. I'm referring to pretty much every post he's made, not just this one. What a bunch of negative dreck. |
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Feels like April all over again... no ask depth and a ton of momentum.
Oh, god, no. So are you caught super short, or are you just a miserable person in general? |
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What's happening? A spam of <0.00 BTC trades, on both the ask and the bid side, making the ticker go up and down all the time really fast, without any actual trading volume.
I see plenty of trading volume. |
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Holy mackerel. Guess this blew up in your face a little, aye OP?  Scammer tag is due, all right...not for shakaru, though. |
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I used both CGminer and GUIMiner and I got the same drop with each. I think it's card dependent.
It would be prudent to post which series and how much of a perfomance drop you experience, on 5770, it was good for -15%. Perhaps 6xxx is more optimized (or less unoptimized) in this OpenCL. Please see my first post on this thread, I posted that already. Since my first test I've also installed 12.1 on another machine with 3x 6870's (everything else is basically the same). I got a similar performance drop. It's interesting that the performance is coincidentally very close to what each card would do at stock clocks. I was suspicious that maybe something with the new driver was interfering with the over/underclocking. But GPU-z reports that the cards are being clocked correctly after I dance my many-step OC/UC dance. |
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All I had to do was copy the 6 dlls mentioned in the other thread from 2.5 on top of the 2.6 ones. That fixed the performance drop and CPU usage went back to 100%. A lot less hassle.
Link to other thread plz? Scroll to post 11. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54693.0 |
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11.12 100% CPU is gone. Performance up a few (6-8) Mhash/s per card. Fantastic. Using cgminer.
Edit: Having similar experience with multiple machines with various CPUs. This is great all around. More Mhash/s less and less energy spent. 5870s and 5850s here.
Has anyone written a gui for CG miner? because using GUIminer(poclbm kernal) my hash rate drops by an annoying amount I used both CGminer and GUIMiner and I got the same drop with each. I think it's card dependent. |
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I can answer my own question now. The video card driver gives a minimal improvement over 11.6: at lower aggression settings, phoenix gets about 1 mhash more, but about the same at max settings.
The OpenCL version 2.6 included in the 11.12 package will completely hose your system for a 10%+ loss, you'll then need to uninstall the OpenCL installation or use the "uninstall all ATI software" option, and also find and delete C:\Windows\System32\amdocl64.dll, C:\Windows\System32\amdoclcl64.dll, C:\Windows\System32\OpenCL.dll, and reinstall the old OpenCL to get your performance back.
I can't test multi-GPU CPU usage though, so try to install the new driver only (through device manager, for each video card, after extracting the driver components, on Windows) and rebooting.
All I had to do was copy the 6 dlls mentioned in the other thread from 2.5 on top of the 2.6 ones. That fixed the performance drop and CPU usage went back to 100%. A lot less hassle. |
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With both 11.12 and 12.1 I went from 310Mh to 270Mh on 3x 5380's clocked at 950/300, AMD x4 w/ Win7 64x.
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