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1281  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: What PSU you use for your antminer S3? on: September 04, 2014, 09:47:25 PM

How much "waste of money"?  What's the calculations?

If my calculations are correct, it would cost where I live about .22 per Kilowatt hour = $5.30 per day for 1,000 watts x 2.20 for 6 OC'ed S3's (at about 375watts each = 2,250 watts) roughly $12 per day x 30 days = $350-360 per month x 12 = $4,200 per year.  If it's a direct conversion of .02 or 2%, that = $84 savings (+/- $3).  Am I doing the math correctly, then at 1.5 years you'd be in the black barring nothing wears out, which might be worth it to some from that point on.  Especially if there's other factors I'm not calculating in savings.


$84 savings ($14 per OC'ed machine) per annum in the context of bitcoin mining can be construed as splitting hairs when you factor in difficulty increase (over the projected year) and daily earnings' variations (pool luck) given a constant hashing rate.
But hey, even a $1 saving is exactly that, and pool luck can be to your favour!
1282  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 30, 2014, 08:45:47 AM
hello all, i have a stubborn s3 that will not accept OC...the frequency remains at the stock 218.75.   i have tried selecting 237, 250, etc.  and i cannot OC.  i am plagued by the 218.75 frequency.  any suggestions ?  
Yep. Update a firmware from Bitmain's site and overclock your S3(s) via web-interface.  Cool
Why update the firmaware?
After changing the speed all you had to do is reboot.
Now you have updated the firmaware, you'll have to do it all over again, only this time you need to change a different file as the new firmware has been noted for reverting the OC.
1283  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining isn't so effective in the past 24h? on: August 29, 2014, 12:13:38 PM
Slush's pool luck has also been down A LOT in the last couple of days.
Even looking at P2Pool, does not look like they've had "out of the ordinary" luck in the last 48-72 hours, albeit a couple of quickfire blocks a day or so ago.
So looks like it is grim all round ....!
1284  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 28, 2014, 08:25:45 PM
HW/(HW+DiffA+DiffR)=HW%

I've always wanted to clarify this, so here goes.
What exactly does DiffR represent? I assumed this represented the number of rejected shares at the current Diff, but its rate of increase seems to be (at times) the size of the rejected share. If that, would that not throw the calculation off?
Here's what I found:

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Diff1 = The number of  Difficulty 1 shares generated
DiffA = The number of Diff1 shares accepted
DiffR = The number of Diff1 shares rejected
LSD = Last Share Difficulty
Discarded = stale shares that cgminer knew were stale so it didn't even send them back to the pool
---------------------------------------
It is strange how the DiffR number differs widely (in shape and size) depending on which pool you mine at and which hardware you deploy.
The S3 for example does not show a best share on some pools whereas the S1 does, in the same breath, the S3 increments DiffR in multiples of 32 on some pools (in the case of ghash DiffR equates to stales) whereas I'd have expected it to be singulars as is on slush.

Which leads me to believe that some stats on the S3 are massaged thus the HW error percentage is ..... who knows!?
1285  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 28, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
HW/(HW+DiffA+DiffR)=HW%

I've always wanted to clarify this, so here goes.
What exactly does DiffR represent? I assumed this represented the number of rejected shares at the current Diff, but its rate of increase seems to be (at times) the size of the rejected share. If that, would that not throw the calculation off?
1286  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S3 batch 6 overclocking on: August 28, 2014, 06:26:51 PM
What kind of concern do you have for damaging the unit? I believe I have batch 5 units, can I expect similar results?

I did not have any concern about damaging the unit, rather damaging the PSU. As mentioned, it is a 550 watt psu and since I could not measure the "wall" wattage at the overclocked speeds, I was worried I may be stretching the PSU beyond its reasonable capacity. Mind you, I have been running my S3 at the higher clock speed since and still hashing away without much ceremony!
1287  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 28, 2014, 03:50:22 PM

I just received another S3 and have some questions. First off, how can I tell what batch this S3 is?

The only way that I know of how to tell what batch it is is either buying it yourself from bitmain or asking the person who bought it.


I already have a Batch 6. I have provided a screenshot below. Please take a look and see what you think. I dont have it OCed. I do have the latest firmware on it. I am having issues with the HW errors. Are these specs too high? Should I b concerned? I have thought about taking it apart and applying new thermal paste. Think that might help?


Yep, you ARE having an issue there with the HW errors. Too high for an S3 (and one running at stock frequency at that)!
1. Are you sure you are powering it up adequately? If that, do a power recycle (there may have been a power spike since you turned it on) and see if the errors settle.
2. I have noticed that the HW errors general % varies from pool to pool. I did not think this to be a contributing factor, but I have observed on my S3's that it may indeed be a factor, thus, try hashing on another pool for several hours. That being said, your error rate is far higher than what I'd attribute to a pool.
1288  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [DIY] - Reward $100 | Antminer S1/S3 Blade on Raspberry Pi on: August 27, 2014, 06:31:54 PM
6 - 8 blades and its going to cost you $110 to do it. i have tested 6 but not 8

Spill the beans on this one then .... $110 seems a bit steep, does your mod entail scrapping the S1 control boards?
1289  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S3 batch 6 overclocking on: August 26, 2014, 09:11:02 PM
yes, as i mentioned before ( i edited  my prev post ) i allready use all 4 conectors. Tomorow i will try with another s3 . Thank you for your help.
Cand you recomand me a server PSU that you think is best ?

Thanks

Your PSU seems fine, though since I do not know how it sends out its power, I can not be totally sure. If you want to go down the server PSU end, look at the one I used as stated in the first post. Bear in mind that you'll have to "make" the cables for it and will have to do some soldering (not plug and play as the one you have!).
1290  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S3 batch 6 overclocking on: August 26, 2014, 09:02:55 PM
I use http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001966 . Do you think that my PSU is the problem ?
What do you recomand ?


That looks like its capable of running 2 slightly underclocked S3's, so should not be an issue running one. However, I do not know enough about how these desktop PSU's pump out their power. I'd suggest you use all 4 PCIe connection if you have not been doing so. If you still get such high errors, then it may be just a case of your unit not being able to overclock well.
1291  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S3 batch 6 overclocking on: August 26, 2014, 08:43:48 PM
nice freqs pekatete.

i tried 218.75 with 441gh/s avg and 0 HW ; 237.5 with 477gh/s avg amd 0 HW. When i tried 250 freq , i got allot off HW errors, about 200 in 5 mins. I modified back to 237.5 and rebooted.
Can somebody tell me why i got so manny HW errors?

Thanks

How are you powering your S3, i.e what is your PSU's power rating and how are you connecting it to the S3? Note that though I used just 2 PCIe connections for my test, I was using a server PSU that has 3 12V rails each pumping out at least 15A, so for my case, each +ve line in each PCIe plug can deliver 12V @ 7.5 Amps.
1292  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 25, 2014, 03:29:23 PM
A second router or just a normal router for internet Connection ?
Either will do
1293  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Sub-$500 mining rigs on: August 25, 2014, 02:21:31 PM
We are doing an article on building a Bitcoin mining rig for under $500, I'd love to hear suggestions along with recommendations of tutorials that walk through the setup.

Also do you think it makes sense to build a rig for this little or do you sacrifice too much by keeping the budget so low?
What are the specs for the rig you intend to write on building?
For under $500, you can get 2 S3's with a combined stock hash-rate of 880 Gh/s @ 720 watts (plug and play!)
Does it make sense ... ? Money sense ...? Makers' sense ... ?
1294  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 24, 2014, 05:10:35 PM

LOL i don't look at HW errors. The PSU is Cooler Master V850 80+ Gold and i connect all 4 PCI-E.
I read your result and now i try to hardcopy the page of Antminer and post results.
Thanks.

I thought that you may be under-powering your S3 and suspected your lack of increased hash-rate was masked in the HW errors (as opposed to X on the chips). however, 850 watts is more than adequate to overclock an S3, and as you can see from my results, I only used a 550 watt PSU with just 2 PCIe connections!
Well well, looks like you drew the short straw with your unit, but at least you got the voucher to sweeten that!
1295  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 24, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
My Antminer is Crazy???
I have tested frequecies and my antminer don't overclock:
Antminer S3 Batch 1, time of test 24h each frequencies, same pool, same user:
206,25Mhz - 414,73 GH/s - 1980/1740 rpm - 41/40 C°
212,5 Mhz - 428,08 GH/s - 2160/1920 rpm - 41/40 C°
218,75Mhz - 410,01 GH/s - 1980/1800 rpm - 41/40 C°
225    Mhz - 406,56 GH/s - 1800/1670 rpm - 41/40 C°
231,25Mhz - 393,64 GH/s - 1980/1800 rpm - 41/39

No X on chip.
Is impossible for my antminer run overclocked?
Can help me?
Thanks

I believe the earlier S3's do not overclock as easily as the later batches (and thats why the first batch received discount vouchers I believe).
Aside from that, you mention you are not getting any chips marked with X but you have not mentioned whether your hardware errors. Are you sure you are powering the S3 adequately and what are the hardware errors?

I did a similar test, but on a batch 6 S3 and posted the results here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.0
1296  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 23, 2014, 02:30:20 PM
Hi guys, sorry for my stupid question, but regarding using server PSU what about the cables (6 pin PCIE)? From where you bought the cables?
If you going to OC S3 is good to have 4 pcs. PCIE connected right?



That is a very good question and there are a couple of ways you can do this.
1. Buy a couple of 8 pin PCIe to 6 pin PCIe cables. These MUST have all the 6 connections to the 6 pin end populated. (I am informed these are usually called nVidia graphics cards power cables, but I can not confirm that).
From here it is up to you what you prefer to do. You can either have your 15A cables from the PSU feeding into a male 8 pin PCIe which you then connect to your cables above OR you can slice off the 8 pin end from your cables, and using an inline connection joiner (from a connection strip rated for at least 15A and available for around 2 GBP for a set of 12), connect your sliced now cable to the PSU cables.

DO NOT buy the 4 pin molex to 6 pin PCIe adapters on the net as they will most likely not be able to handle the amperage. They also do not have all the wires to the 6 pin populated.

2. You can actually buy the 6 pin PCIe housings and the female crimps that go into them from the web and make them up yourself using the slicing method above. For wires, get those that can handle 7 amps (thus every 6 pin PCIe connector can feed 21 amps to the blade). Do not be put off with the crimping as you can do this easily using a pair of sharp pointed pliers.

NOTE: With the three rail PSU, use one rail to power each blade independently with the third one shared between the two. i.e the independent rail will power two ports of the 6 pin PCIe (15A /2 = 7.5) and to share the common rail, simply join these with a length of the 15A wire.
1297  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 23, 2014, 12:01:21 PM

Erm, I was googling and not getting very far. I think we're on crossed wires here. I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm learning from you.

Thank you for the info Smiley

The easiest way to get the specs is to read them from the sticker on the PSU. So it follows, google the PSU, click images and find an image you can read. Another option is the dell website or even better, find a seller on ebay and they'll most likely have an image of the item they are selling!
Happy hashing.

Yup, just ordered one. Cheers dude! Smiley
No worries, just make sure you have your solder iron and 15A (or over) cables ready for when the supply arrives!
I've posted my overclocking tests for an S3 with a 550 watt Dell server PSU here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.0
1298  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 23, 2014, 09:19:02 AM

Erm, I was googling and not getting very far. I think we're on crossed wires here. I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm learning from you.

Thank you for the info Smiley

The easiest way to get the specs is to read them from the sticker on the PSU. So it follows, google the PSU, click images and find an image you can read. Another option is the dell website or even better, find a seller on ebay and they'll most likely have an image of the item they are selling!
Happy hashing.
1299  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 23, 2014, 09:10:46 AM

Guys, wake up to server PSU's! they go for a pittance and are more robust than an equivalently rated (wattage wise) boxed PSU. Fifty bucks may sound like a steal until you find out an equivalent 2nd hand server PSU is 15 bucks give or take.
A server PSU's that would adequately power an overclocked S3 (and then some), can take the shape of:

http://store.vibrant.com/Dell-HY104.html?utm_source=amazon&utm_medium=ads&utm_campaign=Dell-HY104

also at fleabay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-1950-Power-Supply-HY104-0HY104-Z670P-00-7001080-Y100-PSU-/360931800592?pt=UK_Computing_PowerSupplies_EH&hash=item5409363610


Both of those do not have enough juice to run an s3. The s3 needs just over 30A on the 12v to do 370w at the wall, and I'd rather the supply do 40A so I have room to move.

What server PSU's do you use to power one s3? And what does it drain at the wall?



Are you speaking from a position of knowledge or are you speculating?
The linked PSU has 3 12V rails with more than enough amperage in the rails combined to power 2 S3's running slightly underclocked, and DEFINITELY to power a single S3 overclocked to the max.

Ffrom the specs: Output Max. Load 12V 54.4A


Nope, I'm the victim of a bad website it would appear.

So the Poweredge 1950 HY104 can pump out that much juice? Blimey.

Where do you get the specs from?

Come off it! Where did YOU get yours from? In any case, simple maths will tell you 670 watts from 12V needs 55.83 A
I run my S3's off 550 watt Dell server PSU's overclocked to 262.5M, so I know for sure I can run an S3 on 670 watt PSU and not even need to have the PSU cooling fan running at the max.
Honestly, do some research .... thats what google is there for!
1300  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread on: August 23, 2014, 08:55:11 AM

Guys, wake up to server PSU's! they go for a pittance and are more robust than an equivalently rated (wattage wise) boxed PSU. Fifty bucks may sound like a steal until you find out an equivalent 2nd hand server PSU is 15 bucks give or take.
A server PSU's that would adequately power an overclocked S3 (and then some), can take the shape of:

http://store.vibrant.com/Dell-HY104.html?utm_source=amazon&utm_medium=ads&utm_campaign=Dell-HY104

also at fleabay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-1950-Power-Supply-HY104-0HY104-Z670P-00-7001080-Y100-PSU-/360931800592?pt=UK_Computing_PowerSupplies_EH&hash=item5409363610


Both of those do not have enough juice to run an s3. The s3 needs just over 30A on the 12v to do 370w at the wall, and I'd rather the supply do 40A so I have room to move.

What server PSU's do you use to power one s3? And what does it drain at the wall?



Are you speaking from a position of knowledge or are you speculating?
The linked PSU has 3 12V rails with more than enough amperage in the rails combined to power 2 S3's running slightly underclocked, and DEFINITELY to power a single S3 overclocked to the max.

Ffrom the specs: Output Max. Load 12V 54.4A
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