eventuell gibt es am WE schon die ersten börsen welche IOTA handeln. sobald es keine rollbacks mehr gibt und transaktionen funktionieren hindert niemand kleinere börsen daran IOTA zu handeln.

did i miss something?

mining algorithmus ändern = nochmals günstig bei kursen um die 150$ einkaufen können 

nope its not. price of ICO doesnt matter when it comes to decide if a CC is a good investment or not. all that matters is price now vs expected price.

nach der öffentlichen demütigung der chinesischen miner durch den idioten luke reagieren diese nun anscheindend und wollen eine fork mit 2MB und segwit durchsetzen.

wie dumm kann man sein den bitcoin-civilwar mit voller absicht erneut anzuheizen?

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4qk7et/wow_chinese_miners_revolt_and_announce_terminator/

i doubt that XEL could end up just being used as mining coin. mining other CCs with XEL means we mine them with CPUs against (usually) GPU-mined CCs. that leads to a rather small output for your computational work. i think it should be no problem for whoever wants the network to do a certain task to outbid that profit that is possible with CPU-mining.

nein, meinte eher sofu 

in gewisser hinsicht kann man eine HF auch als "self healing organism" sehen, es ist einfach eine andere herangehensweise als bisher beim bitcoin welcher eher mit einem räderwerk vergleichbar ist. jetzt bestehen also zwei konzepte und beide haben ihre vor und nachteile.

i would go with the fixed order, as i dont see any non-profit participants anytime soon in this early stage of cryptos. the whole scene is basically based on economical impulse.

but we could kind of dampen the effect of price a little bit through some kind of additional "weighting" if we use a combination of price AND waiting-time. that means that a job gets more important and higher up in the queue the longer he is in the queue and eventually even comes in front with the lowest bid but a very long waiting time.

edit: this effect would most likely have to be capped, cause otherwise you could just flood the network minimum bid jobs and at a certain amount in time all Flops would go to those jobs.

edit 2: i am thinking about the economics of XEL at the moment, you are right that it has to be thought through.

Random thoughts:

The Price per Flop (PPF) will always be somehow capped on the US$-PPF of our competition. Our competition is Amazon etc. The reason is obv, nobody will pay lets say 3x the US$-PPF of Amazon to get his work done by XEL. Some may like that we are decentralized and willing to pay a premium etc but in the end we will most likely be capped around the price of our US$ competition. Obv we can be cheaper, which will attract demand.

With a rising price of XEL the XEL-PPF will obv go lower.

Price of XEL rises as the network grows cause we have a.) speculation and b.) more jobs equal more XEL needed, even if XEL-PPF is lower

i think that we might let the idea of time estimations go or we declare it just at what it is: an estimation that could be wrong.

so basically one could say that, looking the past 24h your job costs xyz and is done in xyz but actual results and prices may vary.

nope, er wurde selber übers ohr gehauen von dem fritzen der ihm die börse verkauft hat. danach wollte er nur noch schadensbegrenzung betreiben was aber nur durch einen steigenden bitcoin-preis möglich gewesen wäre.

eine arme sau, er war naiv. er hätte gleich klagen müssen nachdem er die börse übernommen hat.

ne ne , natürlich nicht. die softfork haben sie ja jetzt eh abgeblasen durch die neue GETH version. HF wird so wie es aussieht kommen und dann wird man ja sehen wie es sich weiter entwickelt. ich versteh auch die ganzen bitcoin-nörgler nicht, als aussenstehender ist das doch ein spannendes experiment, zu sehen wie der markt langfristig darauf reagiert das es eine HF gab. mein tip: es wird keine sau jucken in einem jahr. aber wir werden ja sehen.

maybe some kind of "lowest price needed to get job done in xxx" or "with this price there are xxx in front of you"

or "at the moment the average price of all jobs done = xxx"

or "last 24h average price was xxx"

i don't see any harm being done by someone bidding a large amount of XEL per flop. also keep in mind if someone bids 1mio XEL per FLOP that doesnt mean the price equals 1Mio as long as nobody bids 999.999XEL  to achieve a certain price you always need TWO participants bidding a certain price, whereas one bidder outbids the other bidder just marginally.

we have got some serious Bitcoin ETF stuff going on right now

That's what i wanted to hear. ;-)

In that case it could happen that we have one really big job incoming and not enough Flops. Then what happens? In a fixed model we won't be able to handle such a request in a timely manner. If we have a auction market the price per flop rises and so we attract more computational power and are able to fullfill the job in time.

To me auction model is superior to fixed rate model.

i wouldnt bother with such accusations too much, they come with EVERY project sooner or later. just ignore and that's it.

Hard Fork und Problem erledigt.

yeah, crypto is full of regrets. i missed also some very good chances or made wrong decisions. but there are so many opportunities that longterm it doesnt matter that much imo. you cant always decide 100% perfect.

i got 2250000 XEM for free back in the days and still have them. crypto is crazy.

exactly

byebye