The king is back  Dogecoin? |
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No boys btc is not ready to reach 1k wait a little longer and open shortz now
while i dont share that opinion, i appreciate that independent mindset. thats what trading looks like, make up your own mind an trade accordingly. not following what 99% of all others are doing. |
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but it just doesnt seem like the time for rally
yeah it doesnt..... how about you opening some shorts and go to sleep for some months? i bet it will work out great. i guarantee you, you will make a hell of a profit! OK? |
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@curiosity81
Ist unrealistisch Dein Bild.
Denn wenn das ATH gerissen wird ist das erst das Signal zum Start der Rally.
so siehts aus. dasselbe in klein: sobald wir die 780$ reißen sind wir auf einem neuen 2 1/2 jahreshoch und die medien kommen ins spiel. |
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If we break 780$ -> lots of media hype cause 2 1/2 year high.
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My guess is market cap of XEL to be 5-10 million USD at launch.
I think that about 25-30 millions, a similar project Golem has 8-9millions in 20 minutes... at the moment Golem hasnt anything and XEL is finished... Yes, but Golem has had lots of PR. And although it had lots of PR and sold 9m innert minutes no exchange is listing it so far. Golem is actually listed here https://liqui.io/#/exchange/GNT_BTCi know, i actually posted that link on reddit days ago. nevertheless you know what i mean if i am saying "exchange".  the "real" exchanges like polo, bittrex, et others. |
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so no more triangle i guess
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Where can I find the actual price of GNT apart from Liqui, it's not listed on coinmarketcap yet?
only liqui trades it Liqui trades real tokens or IOU tokens? Why should Bittrex add this coin? cause exchanges want to make money trading coins, cause it barely costs them anything and cause they are able to add several coins at a time. not just one every week. |
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My guess is market cap of XEL to be 5-10 million USD at launch.
I think that about 25-30 millions, a similar project Golem has 8-9millions in 20 minutes... at the moment Golem hasnt anything and XEL is finished... Yes, but Golem has had lots of PR. And although it had lots of PR and sold 9m innert minutes no exchange is listing it so far. |
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I invoke the master
goodbye triangle triangle still valid on US exchanges, technically its a triple top true, but doesnt matter cause we have basically two predictions from Luc. one says big triangle well into 2017 and one says big move to 1000$+. so whatever happens everybody will be cheering. even if we fall to 450$ you could still argue that its just part of the big triangle. |
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Gibt es auch eine Anleitung, wie ich mir diese Wallet installieren kann? Bei allen bisherigen Wallets brauchte man eine feste IP-Adresse. Das klappt bei mir irgendwie nicht.
Ja die gibt es und ja du brauchst ein Server mit fester IP. Hinzu kommt das du deine eigne IP von einem anderen Server adden musst. Du kannst nur connecten wenn der andere dich auf die whitelist setzt. Hoffe das ändert sich bald mit der nächsten Version, da das ja kompletter Humbug ist... Ziemlicher Murks, soviel steht schonmal fest. Die Frage ist ja auch wie so etwas dann in der Realität aussehen soll sobald man zB tausende Solarzellen per IOTA verbinden möchte? Man stelle sich einmal vor Millionen von kleinen devices welche alle manuell verbunden werden müssen.  |
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I invoke the master
goodbye triangle |
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This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.
What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.
wow，find out this. ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL  jepp, we pay better than any job can do. how about we setup a foundation right now! automatically deduct certain % from all accounts to EK! Not possible and not necessary. a.) Lannister has a good amount of BTC and b.) Community could come up with 100BTC+ easily i think. Especially once we are listed on an exchange, then it should be even easier. I am thinking deduction from all accounts make it fair. Its not about fairness. Its about having an agreement. Folks entered an agreement that they donate and (eventually) get XEL. Even if 90% of holders agree it would be wrong to use force on the remaining 10%. And basically it would also raise the question: For what where those 700BTCs donated if not development? |
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This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.
What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.
wow，find out this. ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL jepp, we pay better than any job can do. how about we setup a foundation right now! automatically deduct certain % from all accounts to EK! Not possible and not necessary. a.) Lannister has a good amount of BTC and b.) Community could come up with 100BTC+ easily i think. Especially once we are listed on an exchange, then it should be even easier. |
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This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.
What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.
wow，find out this. ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL jepp, we pay better than any job can do. |
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sorry for this question..
i didnt understand that. What will donated btcs do? who did take those btcs(about 600btc). where will those btcs use ...
i only wondering
donated BTC are in Lannister's hands. he gives them for bounties and development work. so he will give EK lots of them i suppose. |
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Don't get me wrong ;-) I prefer to stick to the rules, but I would feel sad for those who cant get their XEL because they did not unterstand the terms.
PS: Whoever invented this donation scheme sucks balls. I have never seen anything that chaotic like this. What a shame!
I get that. As a "bigger" holder of XEL i would be willing to donate some XEL to those poor souls in the future. Lets assume some time went down the river and we have some accounts where they dont have the keys but no one else is declaring that this account belongs to him. THEN i would be willing to donate some of my XEL to those folks. edit: and btw you will obv be rewarded very well in the coming days/weeks. be it it BTC or XEL. lets see what lannister says when he comes back. there is no doubt about it that you deserve it. |
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Maybe we could vote in the client itself. XEL holders can vote for or against using "any input" instead of just the first for redeeming the genesis block. If >50% vote for yes, then this feature gets enabled for all those who did not vote "no". So, those who vote against that will definitely have their genesis block entry redeemeable only by the first input address. What do you think? This seems "democratic" to me and everyone who does not want this feature, doesn't get it Why to vote? I mean why not to enable that behavior for all the donations by default? It will allow some users to redeem, who otherwise will not be able to do that. So there are benefits of having that feature ("redeem using any input address"). Lets now think what are the possible drawbacks of that approach. I can see only one: it could create some hypothetical security hole - if coins were sent from online wallets, where some of the keys belong to the online wallet owners, it is possible that online wallet owners will redeem the coins and steal them that way... Is this correct..? Is there any other drawback? And... am I thinking in the right direction here...? What you describe would not happen in reality I think. The only wallets I know of are those, who use multisig-wallets to send the funds from. Multisig wallets are those starting with a 3.... The real drawback of this approach would be only if something like that happened: 1. Someone donated 100 BTC from his QT wallet. 2. The money came from 10 different addresses in one transaction 3. The first input is his "main wallet". Absolutely correct and he keeps this private key secretly 4. As the other wallets of his are empty, he posts the private key to one of the other addresses in some public online forum, in an example python script that he posts. I mean hey, he wasnt aware of the change that we are discussing. 5. Everyone can redeem his XEL Hmm....proposal: Stick to the terms, give out the XEL that were redeemed correctly and then (after a period of time) reconsider again. Eventually (after there is no conflict with another person) release the XEL. From a legal perspective its obv safe to just stay to the terms conditions and not pay out those funds, which maybe less then 0.1% eventually anyways. |
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Now you think:
Great, I donate 1000 BTC, and back up the private key 1ABCDEF...
Now, in fact your transaction is 1000.0001 BTC (because of the fee). BitcoinQT pulls in the dust from the change address as the first input and you are screwed if you missed creating a back up of 1DEADBEEF:
Hmm.. i always was under the impression that you have ONE private key that you can sign all the addresses in your wallet with. So lets say i backup my wallet.dat, then i should be able to sign all addresses that belong to that certain private key including the dust-adresses? You can list all adresses in yout wallet with "listaddressgroupings" and show each private key with "dumpprivkey [your public key here]" command ok, as i understand it we would have a problem if someone had not made a backup of his WHOLE wallet but instead just made a backup of ONE of his private keys, right? |
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Now you think:
Great, I donate 1000 BTC, and back up the private key 1ABCDEF...
Now, in fact your transaction is 1000.0001 BTC (because of the fee). BitcoinQT pulls in the dust from the change address as the first input and you are screwed if you missed creating a back up of 1DEADBEEF:
Hmm.. i always was under the impression that you have ONE private key that you can sign all the addresses in your wallet with. So lets say i backup my wallet.dat, then i should be able to sign all addresses that belong to that certain private key including the dust-adresses? |
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