The more projects that make like this, but this is different and have a challenge, I myself do not understand if they can make it happen, I hope you listen to this.
They will have more chance if they hit one of their caps. If users show a lot of interest, and the hardcap has been reached on the sales then the project could go on forward with 100% speed. Hardcap is always a very difficult goal. Especially on days like this. So much uncertainty in the market, that does not make it easy. But CryptOcean could really accomplish the hardcap, it's a very thoughtful project with great benefits for the future |
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why is there still no easy access to the whitepaper? You still have to register just to get information about the project. That should be a lot easier
You are right, there should really not have to register to check out the whitepaper. This will put people off straight away having to give away private information just to see what the project is actually about! i can understand it from a marketing point of view, but I agree, you shouldn't have to register to get access to something as simple as the whitepaper. That's still one part of the project that everyone seem not to get yet. Including me too. But I presume they have a good reason for such action. Though I tend to think it's for the sake of email list building since not everyone who reads the white paper that will surely invest but then they already have their details incase of future purpose even though they didn't feel right to invest now. I guess the main reason is that everyone who wants to read the whitepaper have to go through the terms and accept that he is not an US citizen. Although US citizens are not allowed to participate in most ICOs, why should they not read whitepaper? If they are really interested, there are always ways to invest. But they should first read the whitepaper |
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I see it only now, the ICO was again until 29.6. extended? I would have been really happy, if after the 3-day-sale had ended. But now again an extension. I suppose the mining will also start later and not as promised in June?
In the meantime I do not feel very well with all the shifts anymore
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It’s gonna be a continuous development or standard security companies just like bitfence they will have to also develop and evolve to keep up and not just keep up but attempt to stay a step ahead to keep their customers and users safe and secure
Yea. They are going to have to keep developing and working on it. These hackers never rest, they can be very determined when they want to archive something. Thus when they realize bitfence defence system, they will definitely seek ways to bypass Yeah, there is no two ways about it, they will have to keep updating their software and firmware, I mean I thought people would have understood that, it's just like your anti-virus has to download definitions. Exactly. Just developing product with not help. They have to keep upgrading it with new safety features. Hacker will be able to hack BitFence device within few months if no update received. I this as more adoption takes place this becomes strong. It is highly dependent on the number of miners in the networks without them the defense is basically weak. the more nodes the better the protection. Yes, to make this as effective solution, we need lots of BitFence nodes in network. I really want to see some live demo of the product. Im sure they will get enough nodes to have a stable network, I can't wait till they release it. I will be getting one straight away with the opperunity to earn from day one I am quite of your opinion, I will also be there from the beginning. We will be able to make good profits here, I do not want to miss a day |
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It looks like there is still no bounty campaign. This ruins my strategy, I usually buy tokens at the ICO and after the listing I buy the tokens of the bounty campaigns cheap
so hopefully there will be some campaigns in the future:-)
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Awesome news guys. Vanig vp just announced that the mvp is out.. You can find it on their site https://vanig.io/ together with the user guide.. It is recommended you read.. Off to check it out. Wow, thank you for this update! It's really finally released. Just a little notice for everyone who will try it: login and password are in MVP User Guide. And there is the white space symbol " " in the password between "vanig" and "2018". This helps, thanks for the instructions, however I commend Vanig for doing a great job by coming up with the MVP at this time and keeping their words  I was surprised it worked quite well when I tested it there were a few bugs but most of them were related to mobile and they already were aware of the issues which is a good position to be in if you ask me For the first week of it's release I expected more bugs than just some mobile issues . I am very happy with VAnig's work and can't wait to see the next update. I have only tested the version for the PC and have not discovered any errors yet. I have to take a look at the mobile version, maybe I'll have time tomorrow MVP looks really good |
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Is anyone holding Iot? Just found a lot of good reviews of it here. I think its not the end of the drop in sales? I think it should go to 0.72 or even 0.60. What do you think? Anyway great project w good technology and partners and developers  I don't hold much of it but i want to see iot flourish in the market they have a good concept about providing security for Iot devices. I hope it gets implemented. It's certainly an interesting concept, i've seen alot of news regarding IoT devices and security issues lately, so it looks like a good time for the project to be in full swing. Yes, me too liked this project, and I think tokens is available at very good price considering the future growth/demand for IoTchain tokens. I don't hold any tokens but thinking about buying some. I think it's a good time to join IotChain. The prices are still reasonably cheap, but have great potential. I guess you will not be able to buy them as cheap as today |
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Lot of plans but the question is are you capable of doing all of them? promising but challenging at the same time.
Why should they do half things? This is a project that is designed to cover as many different aspects as possible. I have no doubt that all this is possible |
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Building a fingerprint of the hacker is a wise move as it moves them away from traditional blocking and more towards something actually useful in preventing future attacks I’m gonna be interested to see how the full fingerprint is built
That's probably the most innovative part of this project, i don't actually know how the technical part of the fingerprint works but one thing is for sure, you can't fake a fingerprint and even if you do, it will take a whole lot of effort than just changing an IP and all that, so it is a right step in the right direction and to me, this is the first of its kind This is the beauty of it, regardless of IP address or where you are in the world. BitFence should be able to identify the same type of attack due to the unique fingerprint allowing a secure efficient system That's why is so difficult to implement any effective security system. I f Bitfence solves this problem that would be a huge step in network security. Every day attackers find different way to hacking system. BitFence need to keep updating their products on regular basis. It will be interesting to see if hackers can hack BitFence device or not. Hackers wont be targetting the BitFence device, it is used as a "honeypot" which will essentially draw the hackers into the device making it vulnerable so Bitfence device can inspect the type of attack and assign it to a unique ID (Fingerprint) which therefore can be used in the future down the line. The fingerprint will be used to identify similar attacks when a hacker tries to use the same fingerprint on a network. And preventing the attack from happening. Hackers are very intelligent, what stops them from finding a way to protect themselves against Bitfence's software? I feel like hackers will keep on evolving and they will always be ahead of the curve. But bitfence can know how the hackers do it and so they can prevent it the next time it happens i think it is amazing also with this information they can look a head too. Yeah that I guess Bitfence can develop new technology and keep improving their software to make sure they catch hackers as efficiently as possible. just like your antivirus solution has definition updates, I assume that Bitfence will as well (That's essentially what the sting miner will be doing, gathering fingerprints (Definitions) of confirmed hackers Of course, further development is urgently needed. You always have to be one step ahead of the hackers. Once you can only react instead of acting it will be hard Will there be updates for the Stingminer or do you have to buy a new one every time they update it? I'm sure you do not have to buy new stingminers all the time, but they will send out regular updates. Nobody would join in if you always had to buy a new device |
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It's tomorrow people! Who else is feeling very excited about tomorrow, June 1st...listing is June 3rd I think I am the first on that list. It's been a long wait and it has sure been worth it. In 3 days time all sales as regards this project will be done with. 14 Hours, and then we will have the pre-listing sale. I just can't wait for it. I really hope that they will hit the hardcap so that they can go on with full speed with their project. It will be interesting how much more 4New can raise. They already got a great amount but with every dollar more they can expand their plant portfolio even faster. Im keeping a close eye on this as well, going to be in the Telegram group tomorrow at 9am when it launches! well, see you tomorrow in the telegram channel :-) I am so glad that it finally starts tomorrow and is over after Sunday. There will be so many investors. Normally I take ICOs rather cool, but for tomorrow I'm really excited :-) This is the big day we have been waiting for; We have three days to see how fast the sale would go and how close it would reach the hard cap they have let out some great announcements and made a great progress especially with the plants acquired. Exciting times, the sale starts today and I can't wait to see the progress. Important to ensure 4NEW push on the marketing in order to get some last minute investors in the last stage of the ICO. At what time pre-listing sale will start? Or it's already started? I am going to buy some more tokens. But I want to see how tokens sale move today. It's already started and showing ends in 7 days 9 hours. But guys what is the meaning of that 100% bonus ends in 7 days? I mean they are offering 100% bonus? I just logged in to buy tokens. And it's true, if you enter an investment contribution, you see that you get 100% bonus. That was not the topic at first. Somehow 4New changes their rules very often Hmm, this is becoming a real can of worms, there is bonuses all over the place, resulting in masses of extra tokens which effectively lower the token price. I don't understand what is going on exactly. I had full faith in 4NEW but planning seems to be an issue at the moment with the token sale. It is really surprising that this is happening on the day the sale is expected to presume. I am not sure what is going on but I think they should post something explaining this and why the kyc is still on going. If they changed sales dates or extended this pre-listing sale at last movement then it's not good. I hope they will explain this to investors. I think they will be definitely having some explanation for this. Otherwise they wont do such things. CEO might have explained this somewhere. We need to check their social media for confirmation. if you do the math, a 1 ETH investment back when the ICO first started (october/november last year?), is now like $4480 worth of KWATT from all of the 'bonuses' that they have been given, that's not including any bonuses they got for investing early (likely 20%+ or more.) When the coin changed from frn to kwatt, investors got a 7x times token bonus at xmas, then now they get those coins doubled again.. back then ETH was around $300-400, so because of all of these 'bonuses' they've made $4000+ at ICO prices.. Anyone who sees this being $2 on exchanges is in for a horrible suprise imo. (if anyone is wondering how I got this figure, It was around 160 'FRN' for 1 ETH. 7x bonus at xmas puts you upto 1120 KWATT, now with the 100% bonus, that's 2240 KWATT, with a token price of $2 per KWATT, a total of $4480) As an early investor you have now gotten really many tokens for free. Kind of annoying that I found the project not at the beginning. On the other hand, I do not know if it is good for the value of the token when so many free-tokens are in circulation. But we'll see if the token is listed once (whenever that will be) |
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Cards that you will do - they can be paid in stores, etc? Will it be possible to withdraw funds from an ordinary ATM?
Hi, markbo1210 ! Ofcourse, you can pay by crypto in any store, at any gas station, etc. In any place where conventional cards are accepted, crypto cards will work. You can also withdraw funds from any ATM. that sounds great. I'm looking forward to the first time I can pay with my crypto card. Can I use this card to access my wallet with multiple cryptocurrencies or does it only work with a single cryptocurrency? Hello, faulerwilli  The card will operate from the priority cryptocurrency, which is configured in personal account.  thanks for the explanation. the graphic looks good. The whole thing looks well thought out. Good approach, that I have to choose a priority cryptocurrency |
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Building a fingerprint of the hacker is a wise move as it moves them away from traditional blocking and more towards something actually useful in preventing future attacks I’m gonna be interested to see how the full fingerprint is built
That's probably the most innovative part of this project, i don't actually know how the technical part of the fingerprint works but one thing is for sure, you can't fake a fingerprint and even if you do, it will take a whole lot of effort than just changing an IP and all that, so it is a right step in the right direction and to me, this is the first of its kind This is the beauty of it, regardless of IP address or where you are in the world. BitFence should be able to identify the same type of attack due to the unique fingerprint allowing a secure efficient system That's why is so difficult to implement any effective security system. I f Bitfence solves this problem that would be a huge step in network security. Every day attackers find different way to hacking system. BitFence need to keep updating their products on regular basis. It will be interesting to see if hackers can hack BitFence device or not. Hackers wont be targetting the BitFence device, it is used as a "honeypot" which will essentially draw the hackers into the device making it vulnerable so Bitfence device can inspect the type of attack and assign it to a unique ID (Fingerprint) which therefore can be used in the future down the line. The fingerprint will be used to identify similar attacks when a hacker tries to use the same fingerprint on a network. And preventing the attack from happening. Hackers are very intelligent, what stops them from finding a way to protect themselves against Bitfence's software? I feel like hackers will keep on evolving and they will always be ahead of the curve. But bitfence can know how the hackers do it and so they can prevent it the next time it happens i think it is amazing also with this information they can look a head too. Yeah that I guess Bitfence can develop new technology and keep improving their software to make sure they catch hackers as efficiently as possible. just like your antivirus solution has definition updates, I assume that Bitfence will as well (That's essentially what the sting miner will be doing, gathering fingerprints (Definitions) of confirmed hackers Of course, further development is urgently needed. You always have to be one step ahead of the hackers. Once you can only react instead of acting it will be hard |
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why is there still no easy access to the whitepaper? You still have to register just to get information about the project. That should be a lot easier
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Cards that you will do - they can be paid in stores, etc? Will it be possible to withdraw funds from an ordinary ATM?
Hi, markbo1210 ! Ofcourse, you can pay by crypto in any store, at any gas station, etc. In any place where conventional cards are accepted, crypto cards will work. You can also withdraw funds from any ATM. that sounds great. I'm looking forward to the first time I can pay with my crypto card. Can I use this card to access my wallet with multiple cryptocurrencies or does it only work with a single cryptocurrency? |
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Awesome news guys. Vanig vp just announced that the mvp is out.. You can find it on their site https://vanig.io/ together with the user guide.. It is recommended you read.. Off to check it out. The MVP is out! Really nice. I was waiting for it for so long. Have to check it out now. Is it true? So anybody can test it or its demonstration video and related information? Now I am very curious to know more about it. I am going to check it during the weekend. I have been waiting for this for so long lol. I think it is using Rinkeby for test net. I trying giving it a shot it is asking for a username and a password. Where should we get those from? You can jump on the MVP test, please take a look at the user guide which is listed on the main website, it has a demo username and password which you can login with and test with. Link is here @ https://vanig.io/assets/pdfs/mvp-user-guide-1.0.pdfWow. It's really good news. Much awaited MVP is out. I have not checked details yet, but I am excited and will check it out tomorrow The first word that came to mind when I saw the MVP was "Wow" as well! It looks really great, the team has put so much hard work into this and you can tell, I like everything, even the little 'V' logo to represent the Vanig token next to the item pricing is really professional. This is really good news guys! Anyone checked this MVP and user guide? I am really excited as this is the most important phase of Vanig project. yes, I looked at the MVP yesterday and bought lego as a test :-) the platform looks very clear and the purchase was very easy. They have taken a really big step with that |
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It's tomorrow people! Who else is feeling very excited about tomorrow, June 1st...listing is June 3rd I think I am the first on that list. It's been a long wait and it has sure been worth it. In 3 days time all sales as regards this project will be done with. 14 Hours, and then we will have the pre-listing sale. I just can't wait for it. I really hope that they will hit the hardcap so that they can go on with full speed with their project. It will be interesting how much more 4New can raise. They already got a great amount but with every dollar more they can expand their plant portfolio even faster. Im keeping a close eye on this as well, going to be in the Telegram group tomorrow at 9am when it launches! well, see you tomorrow in the telegram channel :-) I am so glad that it finally starts tomorrow and is over after Sunday. There will be so many investors. Normally I take ICOs rather cool, but for tomorrow I'm really excited :-) This is the big day we have been waiting for; We have three days to see how fast the sale would go and how close it would reach the hard cap they have let out some great announcements and made a great progress especially with the plants acquired. Exciting times, the sale starts today and I can't wait to see the progress. Important to ensure 4NEW push on the marketing in order to get some last minute investors in the last stage of the ICO. At what time pre-listing sale will start? Or it's already started? I am going to buy some more tokens. But I want to see how tokens sale move today. It's already started and showing ends in 7 days 9 hours. But guys what is the meaning of that 100% bonus ends in 7 days? I mean they are offering 100% bonus? I just logged in to buy tokens. And it's true, if you enter an investment contribution, you see that you get 100% bonus. That was not the topic at first. Somehow 4New changes their rules very often |
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I am following IoTchain since last few weeks. And I liked this project. But when I checked ANN thread I see some information is missing, like whitepaper link, website link etc.
yes, looks like some information is missing. here is the whitepaper: https://iotchain.io/whitepaper/ITCWHITEPAPER.pdfand here is the link to the homepage: https://iotchain.io/ |
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habt ihr noch ein mail von Dfinity erhalten wegen dem KYC vorgang? ich nämlich nicht... bin nicht sicher ob ich mitmache oder nicht aber bisher gab es kein mail  die werden zuerst an die verschickt, die schon vor der airdrop-ankündigung angemeldet waren. alle die ab dem 4.4. den newsletter bestellt haben, kommen erst in den nächsten tagen dran und das nächste mail betreffend airdrop kommt von coinlist und nicht von dfinity |
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