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1381  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 给离题万里的诸君 on: June 17, 2016, 05:59:34 PM
娱乐、工作、学习至上,请诸君远离政治,吃着地沟油的命,别操着中南海的心。

正说反。

正是因为你不操中南海的心,所以你才是地沟油的命!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1382  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 纪念李旺阳 on: June 17, 2016, 05:56:46 PM
谁说中国没英雄?
1383  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 有什么好书可以推荐的 on: June 17, 2016, 04:53:16 PM
乌合之众
1384  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 video 系列 on: June 17, 2016, 04:51:36 PM
《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 14 李进进谈汉维海外合作、伊利夏提回应,藤彪谈少数民族自决权



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52V3D7D5ir4&list=PLPXJm7yX_pqBl5qyqC7rghwOwMBSsUmmA&index=14
1385  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 首战开门红 on: June 17, 2016, 04:14:50 PM
 Roll Eyes 0:0平波兰
1386  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 video 系列 on: June 17, 2016, 04:12:32 PM
什么玩意,不懂

5mao pig can not understand
1387  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 重磅:铜锣湾书店店长透露“失踪”内幕 on: June 17, 2016, 04:07:59 PM
独立独立独立 Angry
1388  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 video 系列 on: June 17, 2016, 03:51:35 PM
《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 13 胡平、伊利夏提谈达赖喇嘛中间道路

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLaxuPLr4rM&list=PLPXJm7yX_pqBl5qyqC7rghwOwMBSsUmmA&index=13
1389  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: Dao出事了吗? on: June 17, 2016, 02:04:12 PM
据说被攻击了,也许是机会抄底。


7777聪没赶上,刚吃了点14000 Grin
1390  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 video 系列 on: June 17, 2016, 01:46:29 PM
《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 12 张菁 谈妇权

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq0OLxUrDRU&list=PLPXJm7yX_pqBl5qyqC7rghwOwMBSsUmmA&index=12
1391  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 重磅:铜锣湾书店店长透露“失踪”内幕 on: June 17, 2016, 01:13:50 PM
一国两制名存实亡 Angry
1392  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Returned Hong Kong Bookseller Says 'Confession' Scripted, Lee Bo Abducted on: June 17, 2016, 12:42:25 PM
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1393  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 重磅:铜锣湾书店店长透露“失踪”内幕 on: June 17, 2016, 12:40:04 PM
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RT @liuyun1989  1小时1小时前
民主黨:民主黨今午發起「#我們都是林榮基」的聲援行動,由西區警署出發,遊行至中聯辦;希望林先生感受到港人對他的支持,#不單限於早前六千人的上街行動,港人仍然繼續會與他站在同一陣線。
1394  Other / Politics & Society / Returned Hong Kong Bookseller Says 'Confession' Scripted, Lee Bo Abducted on: June 17, 2016, 11:21:30 AM
Returned Hong Kong Bookseller Says 'Confession' Scripted, Lee Bo Abducted

2016-06-16

The fourth of five missing Hong Kong booksellers to return to the city has confirmed that he was detained as he crossed the internal immigration border into mainland China last October, before being blindfolded, spirited away, and interrogated for months by a special police unit directed from Beijing.

Lam Wing-kei told a packed news conference that he was detained at the Lo Wu border crossing between the former British colony and the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen, with no reason given at first for the detention.

"On Oct. 24 last year, I was detained as I was crossing the border into Shenzhen," Lam said. "The police seized my travel documents and sent me to a local police station where I was held."

"A few days later, some officials blindfolded me and took me away in their car on a journey that lasted more than 10 hours," he said. "I was taken to Ningbo city in Zhejiang province."

"I was then interrogated by some other people," he said. "The main thrust of the questioning was to figure out my relationship with Causeway Bay Books and [its sister imprint] Mighty Current Publishing."

"They wanted to know who was buying the books and stuff like that," Lam said, adding that he heard that his case was being handled directly by a special task force set up by the central government in Beijing.

Lam said he had been sent back to Hong Kong on a mission to obtain a hard drive listing all the known contacts, including authors and mainland China-based mail order customers, of Causeway Bay Books and Mighty Current on behalf of the state security police.

Won't go back

Lam said he wouldn't be returning to mainland China in spite of his instructions to do so. "I don't dare go back there," he said. "Besides, I think the people of Hong Kong should stand up to power and say no."

But Lam warned: "If I suddenly disappear one day, then everyone will know the reason why. I haven't asked for special protection. We'll have to see how the Hong Kong government protects its own people."

Lam called on the ruling Chinese Communist Party in Beijing to explain whether or not his detention, during which he had no access to a lawyer, was in breach of the "one country, two systems" policy governing Hong Kong's 1997 return to Chinese rule.

Lam, who went missing last October around the same time as four of his colleagues at Hong Kong's Causeway Bay Books, is the fourth to return to the former British colony.

Store manager and British passport-holder Lee Bo, 65, went missing from his workplace in Hong Kong on Dec. 30, while general manager Lui Bo (also spelled Lui Por), and colleagues Cheung Chi-ping are believed to have been detained during trips to China from their usual base in Hong Kong.

Publisher and Swedish nation Gui Minhai left his Thai holiday home under opaque circumstances before appearing on state television CCTV "confessing" to involvement in a drunk-driving death 10 years earlier, a claim that his family have dismissed as highly dubious.

Lee, who went missing from his workplace in Hong Kong on Dec. 30, returned to mainland China after spending less than 24 hours in Hong Kong. The U.K. government has said he was "involuntarily removed" from the city.

No help from Hong Kong

Cheung Chi Ping, business manager of Causeway Bay Books, entered Hong Kong on March 6, two days after his colleague Lui Bo, the bookstore’s general manager, but they too stayed only a few hours in the city before going back to China.

Both were granted bail by Chinese authorities, allowing them to travel to Hong Kong, and all three men had asked for their missing persons files to be closed, Hong Kong police said at the time.

Lam said he believes Lee Bo was abducted by Chinese police in an unauthorized cross-border operation, giving the lie to Lee's claim during his brief return to Hong Kong in March that he went to mainland China willingly.

He said he is the only one among his colleagues who can afford to ignore instructions from the Chinese police.

While in Ningbo, Lam said he was held in a small room of 200-300 square feet and repeatedly interrogated, before being transferred back to Guangdong province, which neighbors Hong Kong, in March.

He said his televised "confession" was scripted, edited, and filmed under the supervision of a director.

"I decided to go public with this when I saw how much fuss Hong Kong people were making [about our disappearances]," Lam told reporters.

Asked if he had anything to say to the Hong Kong government, he replied: "I don't think they did anything to help us. I have nothing to say to [chief executive] Leung Chun-ying."

Coordinated by Beijing

Veteran journalist Ching Cheong said covert arrest operations are always coordinated by Beijing.

"Special task forces like this were very common during the Cultural Revolution [1966-1976], and were used when they wanted to target a specific individual," he told RFA.

"The centrally controlled task force would then set about collecting evidence against them, giving rise to a large number of miscarriages of justice."

Ching said: "The mention of these central task forces, which are a toxic throwback to the Cultural Revolution, is abhorrent to a lot of people ... and now it seems as if they are staging a comeback."

Richard Choi, deputy chairman of the Alliance in Support of the Patriotic Democratic Movement in China, said that Chinese authorities had disregarded legal procedures in their handling of the booksellers' cases.

"We need to keep up the pressure on the Chinese government, because ... otherwise we won't know whether the rights and freedoms of Hong Kong people have been affected," he said.

An official who answered the phone at the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London said they would issue a statement 'soon,' but hadn't responded to requests for comment at the time of writing.

The United Kingdom government has said in an official report that Lee Bo was "involuntarily removed" from the city, which has maintained a separate law enforcement jurisdiction and an internal immigration border since returning to Chinese rule in 1997.

The U.S. State Department said in its Hong Kong Policy Act Report earlier this month that the booksellers' detentions "have raised serious concerns in Hong Kong and represent what appears to be the most significant breach of the “one country, two systems” policy since 1997."

Dubious confession

Swedish national and bookstore founder Gui Minhai, who disappeared from a Thai holiday resort last October, has yet to reappear.

He is known to be in detention in China after making a televised "confession" of involvement in a drunk-driving death 10 years ago that has been rejected as highly dubious by his family.

Gui Minhai's daughter Angela Gui praised Lam on Thursday for his courage in speaking out about his nightmare ordeal.

"I am very happy that he has had the courage to speak the truth," she told RFA. "But Lam Wing-kei's account makes me fear for my father."

"I hope this news will result in more attention on my father's case, so that he can be released."

Angela Gui has said she strongly doubts that her father left his holiday home in Thailand voluntarily, despite having said so in a televised "confession."

She has said her father had sent her messages on Skype in November and in January, asking her to keep quiet, probably "under duress."

Reported by Hai Nan for RFA's Cantonese Service, and by Xin Lin for the Mandarin Service. Translated and written in English by Luisetta Mudie.


http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/returned-06162016110133.html
1395  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 重磅:铜锣湾书店店长透露“失踪”内幕 on: June 17, 2016, 11:07:46 AM
林荣基事件延烧 李波否认“在港被拘”

“铜锣湾书店事件”五名当事人之一的林荣基周四举办记者会,透露过去八个月内被大陆调查人员扣留经过。尤其指称事件另一当事人李波是在香港被大陆方面拘捕。这一“重磅爆料”在香港社会引发强烈震荡,中国大陆官方和媒体也分别作出回应。

德国之声中文网)在当地时间周四(6月16日)举行的记者会上,林荣基表示回到香港后曾与铜锣湾书店股东李波见面,对方承认是在香港被人带回大陆,而非此前对外界所称"自愿回大陆接受调查"。林荣基更表示,负责对他们进行调查的并非一般大陆警方、国安或军方,而是"中央专案组"。

针对林荣基的这些说法,李波在其个人脸书帐号上发文否认:"我在和林荣基谈话时,根本没有提到过我怎样返回内地的事,更没有跟他说过'非自愿被带返内地'或类似的话"。

李波还表示,"我配合调查的是宁波公安机关,没听说过'中央专案组'这回事"。
据媒体报道,周五当天,大批记者聚集李波住所楼下守候,但并没看到李波离开寓所。
对于李波的否认和其他质疑意见,周四陪伴林荣基出席记者会的香港立法委员何俊仁表示,目前事件出现不同版本,相信大众可以简单用常识判断谁更可信。他还透露,林荣基将出席泛民阵营周六(6月18日)组织的游行集会。

2015年10月至12月期间,以销售"禁书"知名的香港铜锣湾书店五名相关人士相继失踪,引爆"铜锣湾书店事件"。各界此后关注的两大焦点分别集中在"言论与出版自由"和"一国两制"的问题上。就前者而言,人们关心的问题是"铜锣湾书店五子"是否因为出版描写中共官场及领导人感情逸事的书籍而遭到整肃或威胁。而就后者而言,如果有关大陆执法人员直接到香港扣押嫌疑人的指控成立,将是对"一国两制"的极大冲击。

有鉴于此,香港特区政府在林荣基举行记者会之后随即发表声明,表示警方将主动联络林荣基了解情况,此外声明中还表示:"香港以外的执法机关,包括内地和海外的执法机关,在香港无权执法。所有香港境外的执法人员如果在香港执法,是违反香港法律,及不能接受的。"

香港署理行政长官、财政司司长曾俊华也表示,特区政府一直非常重视香港居民的人身安全,会继续坚决依法保障香港市民的权利及自由。

立法会保安事务委员会主席、民建联立法委员叶国谦则表示,内地机关只是让林荣基提供资料,林在香港仍有自由,并没有涉及"跨境执法","如果他被(内地)人用刀顶住脖子,才是跨境执法"。

与民建联被视为同属亲北京"建制派"的新民党立法会议员田北辰表示,林荣基与李波说法不一致,事件成为"罗生门",纠缠下去没有意义。他表示将以全国人大代表身份向北京中央政府表达意见。

田北辰去年3月曾向中国人大常委办公室发信,要求澄清李波事件是否涉及"跨境执法",但迄今没有得到回复。

与此同时,多名泛民派议员则要求立法会及相关事务委员会对"林荣基事件"展开讨论。公民党议员杨岳桥还要求特区政府向中央政府提出严正交涉。

德国之声就"林荣基事件"致电中国中央政府驻香港特区联络办公室(中联办),但没有得到回复。



北京的回应
据香港多家传媒报道,中国外交部发言人华春莹在周五举行的例行新闻发布会上表示,宁波公安机构已经接受一家香港传媒采访并澄清事实。她强调,林荣基是中国公民,在内地违法中国法律,中国部门当然有权依法处理。在被问及"铜锣湾书店五子"中唯一仍未回到香港的店主桂民海情况时,华春莹表示没有新消息可提供。到本文截稿时,中国外交部官方网站的"发言人表态"栏目中还没有相关内容。

据信,华春莹所说的报道应指香港《星岛日报》周五刊登的一篇文章。该报记者称,曾致电宁波警方询问林荣基所说情况。一名负责该案的民警透露,林荣基等人"明知违反内地法律,长期向内地非法销售大量未经有关部门许可的书籍,涉非法经营罪。"

该名民警指称,林荣基在2013年10月至2015年10月间,"采取伪装封面等手段,以直邮或由内地涉案人员胡某等人转寄的方式,将书籍销售给内地购书人,并通过在内地申办银行卡收取书款。

该报还引述该名民警称,林荣基及同样涉案的胡姓女友因为"自身原因",主动书写了不聘请律师、不会见家人的声明。

报道称,宁波警方表示,鉴于林目前的情况,"办案部门将适时提请启动与香港警方的相关工作机制。"

中国官媒《环球时报》周五也发表题为《铜锣湾店长"翻供"的实质内容不多》的社评,是内地媒体罕见提及该起事件的一篇评论。文章称林荣基本人承认自己是在深圳被抓,因此没有"跨境执法"的问题。此外,"林一回到香港就开这个记者会,并且不担心自己的安全,这从一个侧面也证明了香港的自由。"

《环球时报》社评中也提到林荣基有关"电视认罪有导演有台词"的说法,并承认"电视认罪"在内地也引发争议,舆论效果见仁见智,但这种做法是否妥当,"与有关方面对林荣基采取的措施是否合法是两回事。"

目前"环球网"上的这篇社评已经被撤下,其他内地网站的大部分转载文章也遭删除。

http://www.dw.com/zh/%E6%9E%97%E8%8D%A3%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6%E5%BB%B6%E7%83%A7-%E6%9D%8E%E6%B3%A2%E5%90%A6%E8%AE%A4%E5%9C%A8%E6%B8%AF%E8%A2%AB%E6%8B%98/a-19337834
1396  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 video 系列 on: June 17, 2016, 09:18:22 AM
《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 11 伊利夏提 谈维族问题

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgEZmvWEOrE&index=11&list=PLPXJm7yX_pqBl5qyqC7rghwOwMBSsUmmA
1397  Local / 离题万里 / Re: 《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 video 系列 on: June 17, 2016, 07:03:32 AM
《习近平的混乱棋局》研讨会 10 张博树 谈民族问题

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihJcwkNP6uo&list=PLPXJm7yX_pqBl5qyqC7rghwOwMBSsUmmA&index=10
1398  Local / 离题万里 / 重磅:铜锣湾书店店长透露“失踪”内幕 on: June 16, 2016, 10:55:04 PM
重磅:铜锣湾书店店长透露“失踪”内幕

http://www.dw.com/zh/%E9%87%8D%E7%A3%85%E9%93%9C%E9%94%A3%E6%B9%BE%E4%B9%A6%E5%BA%97%E5%BA%97%E9%95%BF%E9%80%8F%E9%9C%B2%E5%A4%B1%E8%B8%AA%E5%86%85%E5%B9%95/a-19336709

6月16日,“失踪”近8个月并于两天前突然从内地返港的香港铜锣湾书店店长林荣基突然召开记者会,向公众透露了大量在内地被关押的细节,包括被要求交出给客户名录、铜锣湾书店股东李波曾对他承认自己是在香港被人带返大陆的。


(德国之声中文网)据香港《苹果日报》、《明报》等媒体报道,林荣基在记者会上表示,他公开在内地被扣留的情况是因为这并非仅是书店的事,而是涉及到香港社会的自由。他对在场记者说:"在座好多香港人、香港记者,大家差不多是坐在同一条船。我个人或者书店被干预,将来都回会生在大家身上。这个一定。"

林荣基透露,他于去年经深圳海关前往东莞探访女友,在深圳海关被拘留,之后被带到派出所。他询问是因何事,但一整天没有得到回答。在派出所度过一晚后,他第二天一早被人蒙上眼罩带上火车。13、14小时后,他发现自己被带到了宁波。在宁波,他被要求在不能聘请律师、不能通知家人的文件上签字。在11月至3月期间,他被关在一个小房间里,由6组人24小时监守,共被提审约20、30次。关押后期,两个北京来的人在提审中说他是“被专政的人”,政府对他们“不会手软”。在他的房间里,桌椅都包上了软胶,牙刷、指甲刀被系上绳子,有人拎住,用完就收回,以防他自杀。林荣基说,监守提审他的这些人应该是“中央专案组”的人。两天前,他获准回港探望家人,但被要求提交书店的寄书记录并制成硬件交出。


李波曾透露是从香港被带返大陆

林荣基还表示,他曾与铜锣湾书店股东李波见面,对方承认是在香港被人带返大陆的。此外,林荣基说,自己曾被安排拍摄录像,拍片时有导演,有台词,说得不对就得重拍。


事关香港社会对自由的诉求

他原本计划本周四回内地交出记录客户名录的硬件,但在考虑两日后,最终决定不再去内地,而是站出来见媒体。他说,现在他的女友在内地被监视居住,他"好对不住我女朋友",但是,该事件关系到香港社会的自由诉求,"中央政府逼到香港人无路可退。"他还说,"如果我做为五个人里面,负担最少的都不出声,香港就无得救。"
林荣基透露,由于李波已复制了客户资料,因此中央已经取得500至600名书店客户的资料,其中大部分为内地人。涉及的书籍大约有4000本。林荣基还说,提审他的人还要求他交出所售书籍的作者名单,但他并不知道作者是谁。


港府声明将调查跟进

林荣基召开记者会的消息在周四下午五时许由民主党发布,几十名记者参加了记者会。此前,铜锣湾书店五名曾先后失踪的书商都被安排在官媒及其他媒体上亮相,都称自己是在自愿的情况下回大陆的。

香港政府在记者会后发表声明,称警方正主动联络林荣基本人了解情况,并会作出适当跟进。港府还回应说,"香港以外的执法机关,包括内地和海外的执法机关,在香港无权执法。所有香港境外的执法人员如果在香港执法,是违反香港法律,及不能接受的。"
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