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141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the last 5 years compare to now on: November 05, 2023, 09:38:12 AM
They are big difference comparing in five good year's which is coming with big hugs amount of return investment profits that always cause by Bitcoin halving. When the price of Bitcoin keep appreciate and get more scarce by miner reduction.
There is a very big difference between five years ago and now, because it is quite visible in terms of price and many people's assessment of Bitcoin has also changed a lot. Now there are more and more Bitcoin enthusiasts and the level of stability of the price of Bitcoin itself is also very visible, so things like adoption in several countries by shop or restaurant owners are also starting to be seen, which is also a difference in Bitcoin over the last five years. And other new things may still appear in Bitcoin for the next five years.

In just 5 years everything has changed dramatically, so how will it change in the next 5 years?  we don't even have to wait another 5 years, there will be even bigger changes in the next bull season.  once the ETF is approved, it will be much easier to promote bitcoin to greater popularity.  once the ETF is approved, we will see more corporations and institutions pouring money into this asset and we will achieve global popularity faster than we think.  Once bitcoin achieves global adoption, the value of bitcoin will increase significantly as demand will exceed supply.
142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People are too focused on history repeating itself on: November 05, 2023, 09:26:45 AM
The Covid dump had a much greater impact on the market than the FTX collapse, so it seems to me that comparing these events in terms of significance is not very correct. Frankly, I expect that we have yet to encounter a black swan in this cycle and this will be the last major dump before the bull market begins. It’s difficult for me to say what this could be, perhaps some kind of new pandemic, or a significant escalation of the military conflict, but so far Bitcoin is not very responsive to any negative news, which means it’s not time yet.


Do you mean we haven't hit the bottom of this bear season yet?  if you don't consider FTX, the war between Russia and Ukraine, peak inflation as black swans, then what do you think black swans are?  I think in contrast to you, the lowest bottom was $15k and it was done in 2021, we won't have any more strong dumping in the market.  of course, the market will not easily enter the bull season from now on, there will be a lot of adjustments until the bull season really comes.  but if there is a strong dump, I don't think it will happen, those who missed the opportunity to buy at 15k USD, they missed the bottom.
143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 04, 2023, 05:28:25 PM
It's quite strange to link the current state of the world with the 2026 World Cup which is still quite a long way off and also talk about the difficulty of getting a USA visa, I think the USA is not a stupid country that is proposing to be the host but making it difficult for people who want to get a visa to watch the World Cup in their country.
Of course, they continue to tighten the process of granting visas, but of course, they have certain considerations so it is impossible that many will be rejected because one of the income for this event is entrance tickets to watch matches live at the stadium, so it is impossible for them to ignore this.
It is true that 2026 is far and we don't know the US immigration policy regarding the world cup but nobody should blame the US if visa become difficult to get. The country will first have to protect its national interest. We all know that many people want to migrate to the US and they will use the World Cup as an opportunity to move to the country. It will be difficult to know people that have such intention so the visa process will be very tight. America has the population that can make the world cup successful in terms of income and filling stadiums. Even if the country decides not to accept any world cup visitors they can still host the world cup.

However, the World cup is also a medium of tourism and business. There are many genuine fans and tourist that has clear intentions to come and watch games and enjoy America with no hidden plan to violate the visa conditions. These set of person should be allowed to enter the US without hurdles. Businesses that wants to come and explore the American market for them to buy or sell goods and services, should also be given the opportunity.
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Well, the situation might be very different / 3 years later. And yes sometimes it can be very difficult for a lot of people to get the United States visa. But at the same time that does not stop a lot of people just crossing the border and getting into the United States because right now I think the United States actually appreciates that, to be honest. We have seen a lot of people illegally getting into the United States and just say that they are tortured or somehow trafficked into the country. that’s somehow enough to give them into a school and they don't even have to pay for it. So I don't know, the current situation in the United States seems really fucked up, to be honest.
144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: No advertisement for btc on: November 04, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
I was just reading this post and thought crossed in my mind that there has been no advertisement for Bitcoin. It's all growth has been natural, it's quite surprising if you think about it.
Yes, you are correct, Bitcoin has no advertisements, but there are companies that do advertise Bitcoin because it is part of their company activities. What I mean is that, those companies that do advertise Bitcoin or Bitcoin logos in their company manuals or whatever, might be using it as methods to pay their workers, mostly in an online company such as gambling, and online shops can easily pay their workers that are outside their country, just like how most casinos pay through Bitcoin pays their bettors through Bitcoin.

Those companies are not advertising bitcoin, they are using bitcoin's reputation to promote themselves, they are using bitcoin to attract more customers and bring them revenue.  Bitcoin is decentralized and not owned by anyone, but if bitcoin is owned by an individual then the companies that are using the bitcoin image are even violating copyright and need to pay for the bitcoin.  they are using free bitcoin images to promote their business, bitcoin is advertising their business, they are not advertising bitcoin.
145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is It Late To Invest In Bitcoin? on: November 04, 2023, 11:48:01 AM
I am a 20-year-old student. Not long ago, I heard a famous cryptocurrency expert in Korea on YouTube.

He said, "Bitcoin investment seems to be late, to be honest. I'm sad, too. I think 2018 was the last chance for ordinary people."

This makes me feel depressed. That expert started investing in bitcoin in 2013, and he encouraged his acquaintances to invest in bitcoin, but at that time he said everyone thought he was crazy.

Honestly, as an ordinary college student, the price of bitcoin now feels too much to buy.. If it's the price of the early 2010s, I might have bought it through a part-time job..

I'm so pathetic and depressed because I didn't know Bitcoin quickly. What should I do? Cry

If you are expecting thousands of percent returns like bitcoin once showed us, then it is actually too late for you to invest in bitcoin because bitcoin cannot do that again.  but if you're looking for a significant return on your investment, it's never too late to invest in bitcoin.  although bitcoin is no longer as profitable as it was in its early years, it still generates better returns than any other investment.  everyone has already told you as much above and I don't want to repeat myself, the decision is up to you.

I agree with your statement. It's best not to dwell too much on regret and sadness because that can't change anything. Actually there is still an opportunity for people who are late in investing in Bitcoin, we are also not required to buy 1 Bitcoin directly, we can buy it for $10 maybe, if we have more money that would be good. Current price and market conditions also support investing in Bitcoin, which usually increases several times after the halving. And it's still profitable.

Regret is not a solution, investing is a choice. Use the opportunity or throw it away, it's up to you!

The past is something we can never fix, so I really hate people who always reminisce about past mistakes.  meanwhile, the present and the future are our real lives, why don't we take advantage of the present moment to build a better future so that 10 years or 20 years later, we will no longer regret the past?  I have never looked back at the past price of bitcoin, I always like to make predictions and plans about the future because one day I know I will be there, but I cannot go back to the past.
146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 03, 2023, 05:18:09 PM
In today's match of Netherlands vs Afghanistan team, Afghanistan team won the match by 7 wickets. Netherlands team set a target of 179 runs in 46.3 overs. Netherlands team went all out in today's match for which Netherlands team could not score more runs. Afghanistan team's bowling line was very strong. Afghanistan team today.  Played very well in bowling and batting.
Congratulations To Afghanistan well played Afghanistan overtakes Pakistan on the points table to secure No. 5 position. Afghanistan has done in this World Cup 3rd for them, most won in an edition is 4. what Bangladesh has not been able to do in their history of 7 World Cups. Mohammad Nabi was named the player of the match for his exceptional spell against the Netherlands in Lucknow. He took 3 important wicktes 3/28 in his bowling spell. Afghanistan play best cricket till now if they win next 2 matches they will qualify easily.
Congratulations to Afghanistan for playing very well. I was very much surprised the first innings of the Netherlands in today's match was quite embarrassing as they lost four wickets only because of run outs. I don't know if there is any such history in cricket world. Also, I have seen everyone else from the 5th wicket have done poorly. However, van der Merwe and Aryan Dutt played well in their positions. We have seen them beat a strong team South Africa in this tournament so we can say that they are not too bad but today's match showed their immaturity.

Netherlands lost today's match because of their stupid batting. Top order batsmen do not get out by performing poorly. Four of the first 5 batsmen were run out. In such an important match, the Netherlands batsmen should have batted responsibly. But they played like fools. Had it not been for these four run outs, the Netherlands could easily have given away a target of 260+ today. And if Netherlands could have given a target of more than 260 on this pitch, they might have won the match. Giving a target of just 180 runs was impossible to win. Afghanistan batsmen batted very responsibly today. The team has won four out of seven matches and is now fifth in the points table.
147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 03, 2023, 05:09:01 PM
Osimhen is not an option that Madrid is targeting, because the closeness of Florentino Pérez prioritizes Mbappe. We'll see that this is also the last offer for Mbappe to change his fate rather than being at the PSG club. Opportunity to unlock various achievements and trophies. In my opinion, there should be no other reason to hold back Mbappe except himself, it cannot be denied that Madrid is the most ideal place for Mbappe future career.
Real Madrid have been on longed in the race to sign Kylian Mbappe and not settling for Victor Osimhen who's also an important player for Napoli. What Real Madrid needs to complete the squad is Mbappe, a player that can make good threat moves like Vinicius Júnior, Kylian is the one all fingers points to. PSG are on the verge of losing one of the most valuable player next summer, Kylian Mbappe have made his intentions known to the public and he's not going to hold back, rather he would seeks good moves to La Liga, were he would link up with Real Madrid president. Real Madrid is the next home for Kylian Mbappe, everything will go according to plan, plotted by Florentino Pérez.
Mbappe and Osimhen are the same age at 24 years now, and I think both are great but yes, at least Mbappe is better. But even so, at least Osimhen also has good quality if placed or playing at the right club like Real Madrid. So yes, if for example Real Madrid needs one more striker in the next transfer window, then maybe bringing in Osimhen wouldn't be bad either because he is still young and the price is certainly below Mbappe. But yes, if Real Madrid are still willing to wait for Mbappe, then we won't get a new striker in the January transfer window at Real Madrid.
But looking at the situation and the actual placement of players when Madrid is looking for Benzema and a pure striker in the center as a foundation Osimhen is the most suitable player because we know that Mbappe's position even though he can be used as a striker in the middle but the main position is a winger with his running speed but it seems that Mbappe is still a priority even if Osimhen becomes a pure striker but Mbappe can be much more practical, its just that with Vini and Rodrygo, indirectly if Mbappe is in Madrid he will indirectly have a new role. 

There is no  doubt that Osimhen is a fantastic player.  Madrid now need a striekr who can score a lot of goals. Mbappe could be the perfect choice for Madrid's squad. And I  think the Madrid management  will do their best to get Mbappe into the squad. Osimhen will probably  be Madrid's  second choice. If  Mbappe can't be  added to the squad, maybe Madrid management will try to add Osimhen to the squad. Osimhen  has proved his mettle. He is capable of  scoring a lot of goals. He can  score more goals if he is  with an experienced squad like Madrid. Osimhen's e xcellent performances helped Napoli  win the title last season. So  it would be a very good decision for Ancelotti to add Osimhen to his squad.
148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is It Late To Invest In Bitcoin? on: November 03, 2023, 07:22:49 AM
I am a 20-year-old student. Not long ago, I heard a famous cryptocurrency expert in Korea on YouTube.

He said, "Bitcoin investment seems to be late, to be honest. I'm sad, too. I think 2018 was the last chance for ordinary people."

This makes me feel depressed. That expert started investing in bitcoin in 2013, and he encouraged his acquaintances to invest in bitcoin, but at that time he said everyone thought he was crazy.

Honestly, as an ordinary college student, the price of bitcoin now feels too much to buy.. If it's the price of the early 2010s, I might have bought it through a part-time job..

I'm so pathetic and depressed because I didn't know Bitcoin quickly. What should I do? Cry

If you are expecting thousands of percent returns like bitcoin once showed us, then it is actually too late for you to invest in bitcoin because bitcoin cannot do that again.  but if you're looking for a significant return on your investment, it's never too late to invest in bitcoin.  although bitcoin is no longer as profitable as it was in its early years, it still generates better returns than any other investment.  everyone has already told you as much above and I don't want to repeat myself, the decision is up to you.
149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help? on: November 03, 2023, 07:15:11 AM
In one way or the other, Bitcoin has impacted some useful things in some countries today. I will have to conclude that any country that is not getting better in finances is that those countries are not permitting Bitcoin in their country.
Bitcoin has given a lot of people an opportunity to achieve what they want to achieve in the future, but anyone who doesn't take advantage of Bitcoin by clicking the buy button, then it will be very hard for such a person to get it right in other investments too.
You are over exaggerating, what are some countries bitcoin is impacting positively? Can you name some countries and some of the impacts bitcoin has had on them?  We don't need to talk about such unnecessary hype about bitcoin, bitcoin cannot help any country escape poverty or reduce poverty rate like the OP is mentioning.  Bitcoin is just a financial tool and it is bringing positive benefits to many people but not all, there are still some people who lose money when investing in bitcoin.
150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do not share your bitcoin holdings with everyone on: November 03, 2023, 07:02:11 AM
I was listening to a news that one of the relatives of a person kidnapped him and asked him for bitcoin in ransom. This happened because that person showed his bitcoin holdings to many of his relatives and news spread among them that he has lot of money invested in crypto. Though, finally funds were recovered from that guy but he could have even lost his life in the whole scenario. Thus, you should be careful with disclosing about your bitcoin holdings to everyone.
Not telling people how much bitcoin you own should be like a basic rule, especially for your own security. If you really want to brag about it eventually just say that you had X bitcoin, you sold them, and you made a huge profit, but make sure to specify that you don't own any more bitcoin at this point. Anyway personally I would avoid also this option, some people may just believe that you still own bitcoins and may come after you anyway.

This probably won't guarantee your safety either, maybe they don't just care about your bitcoins, they also care about how much money you have.  if you say you own a huge amount of money, it's like you're bragging and you're also in danger.  a thief or robber who steals your bitcoins will also convert them into fiat currency that they can spend, so bragging about having a lot of money or a lot of bitcoins is no different.  the best way is not to brag about anything involving large amounts of money to anyone.
151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will $BTC soar beyond 35K or dip below? 🚀📉 on: November 03, 2023, 06:38:07 AM
I personally still remain optimistic about the current cryptocurrency market and the recent increase in Bitcoin prices as something positive after the previous decline and currently if we pay attention there are no clear signs of decline BTC is still at the same level and heading towards reversal. yes. current running price $34,192.
I think it will most likely decided after fed's decision about rates. United States Dollar as currency lost so much value after inflation mainly caused by printing extraordinary amount of money when pandemic started. Its so sad but I think moment fed stops raising the bar, bitcoin may experience short term but very burst moves towards upwards. I am not as optimistic as you for midterm tho. I think bitcoin will get another correction at point probably around the end of this month I suppose.

Bitcoin has risen quite high in recent days so expectations of continued growth are quite subjective.  I have the same thoughts as you, perhaps there will be a correction and we need to evaluate afterwards to know whether the market will continue to go up or continue to decline.  bitcoin crossed $35k after the Fed's statement on keeping interest rates unchanged and people are very optimistic because of that news, people are becoming more greedy with the market.  so I think it's time for us to be wary of everything as greed in the market is becoming greater.

The sentiments has really shifted, and now we are in a bullish state, and so just recently we have seen the price going above $35,000 so that is a good sign that this November, we might see the continuation of the bullishness that we have in October. Just imagine the spike, from $28k-$35.

And then from the lowest low last year same time, of $15,500 to the current price. And if I'm not mistaken that is a big $127% spike already.

So this is just the beginning, this November might be another great month for us, and we might see $40,000 for the first time this cycle.

The $40k target could also happen in November or maybe December, but as I said, I think there has to be a correction before bitcoin continues to rise, bitcoin cannot rise vertically to 40k dollars without any correction.  compared to yesterday, bitcoin is below $35k today and I believe it will likely drop below $34k before it can resume its upward trend.  what's more interesting is that bitcoin is only down 2%, but a series of altcoins are down 10% or more and this is quite common in this year's bear market.  people who are holding altcoins will be very stressed and worried.
152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 02, 2023, 05:00:35 PM
I don't think Serie A is ever boring. There seems to be interesting matches every day. Bologna and Lazio, Atalanta and Inter, Fiorentina and Juventus. Fiorentina against Juventus will probably be a very interesting game. Fiorentina are playing no worse than Juventus right now.
Apart from Fiorentina against Juventus which might be an interesting match this weekend, I think the match for Atalanta and Inter Milan could also be a very interesting match to watch because currently Atalanta is also quite good which is even better than the Fiorentina team. So some people might be more interested in this match because the playing schedule is earlier than the Fiorentina vs Juventus match. So the fiercer the competition for points in the Serie A standings this season will clearly be, the more interesting the league will be and far from boring.
Basically, Atalanta is always part of the competition for the top six every season in the Serie A standings. So yes, because this weekend Atalanta will play against Inter, it is clear that this match will be a big match for this week too. But indeed, apart from this match, of course the match between Fiorentina against Juventus is also a big match at this moment, because Fiorentina is experiencing an increase in performance this season. But, Inter and Juventus will play away and considering that Inter and Juventus still very need with three points, then of course their match this weekend will be very interesting because they are still very ambitious of course to get winning.

Inter Milan vs Atalanta is likely to be a competitive match. Atalanta are in good form. Now the team is fourth in the points table. And so beating Atalanta is not an easy task for Inter Milan. However, Inter Milan's past record against Atalanta is very good. Inter Milan have won three of their last five matches against Atalanta and drawn two matches. Inter Milan did not lose a single match. It is expected that Inter Milan will maintain continuity in the next match as well.
It will be difficult for Juventus to win the away match against Fiorentina. Juventus failed to win their last two away matches against Fiorentina. But Fiorentina are a bit off form right now. The team has lost in the last two matches. So Juventus will be the favorite in this match.
153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 02, 2023, 04:41:30 PM
Yes the defence of Manchester United has been on the weak side, but Maguire and the lindelof have been doing exceptional job recently. Dallot was not able to attack almiron properly during that first goal encounter, Maguire would have done a good job if he was in the position of Dallot.
Manchester United really need improvement, I don't know if there should be change on the coach or the entire squared, it really frustrating seeing United strongly to win almost every week.
The changes that Manchester United need are in several players and also in the way they train existing players, because when Manchester United's tactics are now easier for their opponents to read, of course it will be very difficult for Manchester United to win. every week. Moreover, this season Manchester United also have to think more in several competitions including the UCL, where in general they are also struggling to qualify for the next round there.
If so, then I think Manchester United should focus on only one competition this season, because playing in many competitions makes Manchester United become bad at this moment. So, because Manchester United also do not have a good chance in the Champion League, then let them fall there . Because then, at least Manchester United can be even better for the results obtained in the Premier League. At least to be able to improve its position in the Premier League standings throughout this season, because if Manchester United is still focused on several competitions then Manchester United will only get worse.

I agree with you. Manchester  United should now only focus on the  Premier League. I don't think Manchester United have much to gain from doing well in the Champions League right now. United's performance is quite poor. Although they qualified for the round of 16, they failed to qualify for the quarter finals. So United  should focus on  Premier League matches.  and trying to stabilize their performance. If the performance is stable then they can do well in the next  season. At the same time, Ten Hag should bring several more changes to his squad. Manchester United  need an experienced striker now. United's attack is very weak. They have trouble scoring even against  weaker teams. So a regular scorer is much needed  by Manchester United.
154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD! on: November 02, 2023, 04:31:45 PM
lol, I can't believe what I'm witnessing, SL completely destroyed, they might not even make 50 today.

The Sri Lankan team is going nowhere under the power of the Indian pacers. If 7 wickets fall for just 22 runs, Sri Lanka can collect a whopping 40 runs in today's match. This could be the lowest score in World Cup history. But Sri Lanka will perform so badly today, never imagined.
Just 2 more wickets needed now and Shami is in four wickets, can he get one more? Smiley
Got to admit that this is the deadliest bowling attack of Indian pace bowlers and the inexperienced Lankans have no clue about how to approach the moving balls.
Literally India is humiliating the SL with ball and luckily SL matched the lowest ODI score now which is 35.
India won the match by 302 runs. Sri Lankan all team out on 55 runs and Sri Lankan team can't handle pressure in this match.India scored 357 runs with fall of 8 wickets in 50 overs.Mohammad Shami was awarded as player of the match who took 5 wickets by giving only 18 runs.Shubman Gill performed very well and made 92 runs in 92 balls ,Virat Kohli made 88 runs in  94 balls and Shreyas Iyer made 82 runs in only 56 balls.Indian all team performed excellent .From Sri Lankan team ,only one player performed good and took 5 wickets.Sri Lankan 8 batsmans can't enter in double figures .Mohammed Siraj also performed good and took 3 wickets by giving 16 runs in 7 overs.

The way Sri Lanka have performed in the past matches, no one could  have imagined that they would play this badly today. India was in very good form, everyone thought that India will win the match but  it will be a competitive match. But the Sri Lankan players played very badly. Their batting, bowling and fielding were all bad in this match. They have fielded a lot of misses. Also the performance of the bowlers was not good. In the Asia Cup we saw that India lost all wickets against the Indian bowlers for just 50 runs. Today they managed to collect only 55 runs. Bangladesh, England and Sri Lanka's performance in this World Cup makes me very upset.
155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buying at 35k? on: November 02, 2023, 12:38:06 PM
Perhaps $35k isn't a high price in my opinion when compared to the future projections of Bitcoin. It's true that the arrival of a bull run can be unpredictable, but it's certain that a bull run will happen. It's all about being patient in waiting for the market and staying focused on our investments, including Bitcoin. Even though my confidence level is pretty high, it's not that easy for me to go all in on Bitcoin. We shouldn't ignore other investment models because we don't know which investment will be more profitable in the future.

My advice is to keep making regular purchases even if the price is now at $35k. Remember that BTC once reached $69k, right? That means it's down 50%, isn't it?

Don't wait for the price to reach $40k, or you'll regret not buying BTC when it was at $35k. And remember, don't go all in. Life is much broader than relying on a single investment.

We should not put all our assets into bitcoin or any other investment, we need money for daily needs, savings for emergencies...but I think there's nothing wrong if we only focus on investing in bitcoin.  I'm just talking about investing and what I mean is, we don't need to diversify into other investments like gold or stocks.  if we have a small amount of capital and are willing to take risks, we should focus on bitcoin instead of diluting our investment.  no investment offers optimal returns like bitcoin, diversifying into other assets will only reduce our returns.
156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will $BTC soar beyond 35K or dip below? 🚀📉 on: November 02, 2023, 12:23:46 PM
I personally still remain optimistic about the current cryptocurrency market and the recent increase in Bitcoin prices as something positive after the previous decline and currently if we pay attention there are no clear signs of decline BTC is still at the same level and heading towards reversal. yes. current running price $34,192.
I think it will most likely decided after fed's decision about rates. United States Dollar as currency lost so much value after inflation mainly caused by printing extraordinary amount of money when pandemic started. Its so sad but I think moment fed stops raising the bar, bitcoin may experience short term but very burst moves towards upwards. I am not as optimistic as you for midterm tho. I think bitcoin will get another correction at point probably around the end of this month I suppose.

Bitcoin has risen quite high in recent days so expectations of continued growth are quite subjective.  I have the same thoughts as you, perhaps there will be a correction and we need to evaluate afterwards to know whether the market will continue to go up or continue to decline.  bitcoin crossed $35k after the Fed's statement on keeping interest rates unchanged and people are very optimistic because of that news, people are becoming more greedy with the market.  so I think it's time for us to be wary of everything as greed in the market is becoming greater.
157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another ETF's Ticker got Listed on DTCC on: November 02, 2023, 12:04:58 PM
I have sometime to say about this ETF thing, if you believe that the market is recovery because of ETF rumour you don't know what you are saying, I've been hearing about ETF since 2016 and they never approved it, yet Bitcoin made a new ATH in 2017.

If none ETF get approved Bitcoin will still do it's thing, a new all time high will still happen, avoid digesting their lies, they are using the ETF to trap people, now many people will believe that Bitcoin will reach 250,000, as possible this is, it's also impossible, because no one knows what its going to be the next top for Bitcoin.

Right now its better to plan how you will take your profit, many people will be trapped holding their Bitcoin with the hope that a new all time high will come and they will ride down with the dump again, the media and news is lying to all of you, I hope you get smart.

I agree with you that bitcoin doesn't need an ETF to grow and reach a new ATH, but I believe what's happening is related to the ETF news.  Bitcoin is also a financial market and it is also affected by positive and negative news both macro and micro.  Bitcoin has never been able to dump itself or grow on its own without accompanying news.  ETFs are no longer strange to bitcoin investors, but have you ever seen news about ETF approvals as noisy as they are today?  no, that has never happened before. 
Bitcoin could even increase in price due to news from Elon and Tesla in 2021, and the ETF news is many times bigger, there is no reason to say it does not affect bitcoin.
158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 01, 2023, 03:12:57 AM
This analysis is spot on. Mbappe is a key figure in French football. President Macron succeed to persuade him to stay at PSG last year, but the current situation is quite challenging. Mbappe is no longer willing to sacrifice his career objects. It's time for him to move on, regardless of whether PSG offers a big amount of money or other else. Clearly, Mbappe's heart is no longer with PSG. He has achieved what he supposed to at PSG. Authority should allow him to leave and begin anew. Show appreciation for his contributions and give him the freedom to choose his future.
Whoever the player is, if he has very high quality talent but is at the wrong club, he will not feel at home and will continue to have the urge to leave that club and move to another club that can give him a good place to improve his career in prestigious competitions and all of that is his dream. The dream of every talented player, one of which is Mbappe, who currently continues to have the urge to leave PSG and next season everything will come true and PSG must be willing to lose this key player.
PSG is currently one of the best stars in the world of football. Mbappe is one of the best stars in the world of football, but he has repeatedly failed to achieve European excellence simply because he is not at a good club. Since this season there were rumors that he will change clubs and he planned to leave the club as a free agent next season but for some reason he may have extended his contract with PSG but even if the contract is extended he may leave the club next season. PSG know they will lose their club's best player next season although they will try to keep Mbappe this season like other seasons but I don't think they will succeed in keeping Mbappe this season.

I am actually not so sure about him not being ready to sacrifice any more career objects, to be honest. Because we all know that he really loves money. Imaging if PSG actually gives him or really good offer that he cannot decline, again. But I think that might not happen again because after all he really got a good offer from the Saudi League and he declined that. But at the same time if he did end up going to the Saudi League a lot of people wouldn't have taken him seriously as long as he was there in my opinion. I think there are a lot of differences between playing in the Saudi League and playing in the Ligue 1. Even though the quality of football may actually be pretty close. Anyway, nothing is certain when it comes to Mbappe transfer.
159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 31, 2023, 03:20:03 AM
Al Hilal is a strong club without Neymar, last season of the Saudi Professional League also saw Neymar-less Al Hilal put up a tough fight against Al Nasser in the Arab Cup final, although Al Hilal lost 2-0 in that match against Al Nasser. They paid a significant sum of money to sign Neymar from Europe this season to avenge last season's loss to Al Nasser, but Neymar suffered a major injury after playing just three to four matches and is expected to miss the rest of the season.

Al Hilal team might be stronger without Neymar but since they won't have Neymar this season they have to plan without Neymar and they have to do well without Neymar. Since this team has done well without Neymar before, it is expected that they will do well without Neymar this season as well.
However, Neymar is a player with skills above other players. he is a great European player and belongs to Al Hilal. Unfortunately, he has only played a few times and his contribution to the club is still very small. no one plans for injury. This is something unlucky for Neymar and also Al Hilal.
Even without Neymar, Al Hilal's performance is not bad, currently, they are the best at the top of the SPL standings. they are still ready to compete with Al Nassr this season.
When Neymar was signed to Al Hilal from PSG, there was a fear of Neymar getting injured, but Al Hilal did not care about that fear and signed Neymar only hoping for good things, but that injury took Neymar back. A club is more likely to miss a player for an entire season than a player is likely to suffer an injury. Neymar has been injured several times and he has returned several times but only lost precious moments of football in the middle. Neymar is now injured, maybe after a few months he will come back from injury but he will miss only Al Hilal matches this season. As a Neymar fan, it is my hope that Neymar recovers quickly from his injury and joins the team's training camp again.

Having Neymar available is never going to hurt any team ever. And even though the team is definitely strong without him, imagine having Neymar available with already having a strong team. It also agreed that no one can actually predict injury problems. It has happened and the club has to accept this. The thing is, probably this is not bothering them too much because they are at the top of the table right now. Even without Neymar, they are in the first position of the table. And that is different and worth praising in my opinion. I want to see a good fight between them and Al Nassr who is in the second position right now.
160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Solves This - Money and Banking on: October 30, 2023, 09:42:11 AM
However as I began to read news on the internet about the problems in the monetary and banking system. I would mutter to myself, 'Bitcoin solves this".
Bitcoin itself has serious problems - lack of scalability, huge price volatility, complexity of "being your own bank". Banks have problems, but most people are satisfied with them, because those problems arise rarely and often just get solved. This explains why people aren't abandoning banks for Bitcoin like bitcoiners had hoped since the early days;
Nothing can be completely perfect, but one thing can be better than the other or offer things that the other doesn't even if it comes with its flaws. The same goes for Bitcoin and traditional financial systems. The percentage of people who have trust in banks and traditional financial institutions might be greater but the number of believers in Bitcoin is increasing over time, and I'm pretty sure that the people who hold their wealth in Bitcoin are way more satisfied than they could ever be with a bank.
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But in short, bitcoin will never completely replace or disrupt banks because banks are providing us with more services than just deposits and savings.  if you want to borrow money for business, bitcoin cannot help you do that, or insurance, bitcoin cannot provide that either...
When talking about banks, people only think about depositing money and saving, few people think about other services that banks provide to organizations and businesses.  so they claim that bitcoin is superior to banks, but in reality, bitcoin only solves some of the problems that banks and currencies face.  Bitcoin cannot provide all the features and services that banks and traditional currencies provide.
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