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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why would anyone buy this DAO crap? on: May 14, 2016, 11:32:48 PM

You would be far better off buying something on the real stock market where you can personally verify some type of fundamentals ...

Precisely.  (not sure about the crash so I removed that from your comment.)
142  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: May 14, 2016, 11:20:21 PM
^^ $50/btc ... gee I wonder who wants to buy in cheaper? gawd do you guys ever give up? you missed the boat, deal with it.

Are you sure?

go away you idiot.

TPTB_need_war is not an idiot. In many ways he is the smartest here. The problem is, he is having the fixation that he can predict the BTC price, so he talks nonsense with regard to that. I pointed out several times in this thread how and why he is wrong about the BTC price, but he is not an idiot, and I am sure you know that.
So he created yet another account? We all know he's usually wrong with short term directions just like most ppl.. it's funny reading the predictions I make some money off of them

I read somewhere that he was banned and using this account for now, but I am not sure. I think that account is TPTB_need_war.

You are quite right and we discussed this several times. Short term predictions from anybody are nothing more than pure speculations. Armstrong and others have no clue about the short term market. To be fair, Armstrong doesn't even try to be specific lately. He says: if this than that, everything is conditional lately. Though the long term view of analysts such as Armstrong or David Stockman still useful. I find David Stockman even more useful than Armstrong is. The man really knows the market. He had been telling with regards to the last 4 rallies that it is nothing more than a dead cat bounce. At the same time others were predicting new highs. He has been saying not after but during the rallies, make no mistake, this is just a dead cat bounce. He was right again, and at DJIA 18K the really was over. There is at least something specific from him. Stockman has been far more accurate and specific than Armstrong is, and his deep understanding about economy and the crocks of Wall Street is really useful in this nonsense casino market.

Tricky week ahead on the market. Now we had 3 consecutive down weeks. There were 4 consecutive down week only 4 times in the last 7 years, and most downside damage had already been completed after the 3rd week. Also, the two previous lows occurred following multiple lower highs, so the panic selling continued following a few highs - so far we had only one. This current downtrend is not convincing at all. In mid term I am with Stockman that it is a bear market.
In longer term, I understand what Armstrong expects that the US market will provide refuge for worldwide money, but I am not sure how Armstrong's super highs can work out in this bearish climate.
143  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: May 14, 2016, 09:07:32 PM
^^ $50/btc ... gee I wonder who wants to buy in cheaper? gawd do you guys ever give up? you missed the boat, deal with it.

Are you sure?

go away you idiot.

TPTB_need_war is not an idiot. In many ways he is the smartest here. The problem is, he is having the fixation that he can predict the BTC price, so he talks nonsense with regard to that. I pointed out several times in this thread how and why he is wrong about the BTC price, but he is not an idiot, and I am sure you know that.
144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: May 14, 2016, 08:37:15 PM
My rants and anger are not exclusive to IOTA.

This shows you lack focus. Your current venture won't be finished before you die if you don't learn how to focus on things. Think of this, your time is ticking.

You are wasting your time here Sergey. Your trolling can't irritate me. You are 37 years old, a virgin, you live in the shithole of Belarus and you are a very mediocre programmer. You manifest a rare combo of properties which makes me not to take seriously what you say, though the effort is noted and appreciated to a certain extent.

On the note of programming, have you fixed the problems I have pointed out in this thread? I had a quick look at your Java source and in a 30 seconds scan I spotted at least 5 major programming mistakes. Open a programming thread and I will teach you in real time how to write software. With your mediocre programming skills you are embarrassing all Russian programmers (I am not trolling, telling this seriously and with the best intention).

145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: May 14, 2016, 08:13:36 PM
what's happening altcoinuk??? you disappeared from BCtalk, ryver.

I have not disappeared. The Gadgetcoin developers asked me if I support the GDC project publicly on this forum, then I should not be so hostile to other projects. Fair enough, point is taken on board. Therefore, I am focusing on what I am very good at. These are including but not limited to making women extremely happy and delighted in sex, playing in amateur golf tournaments and testing the newest collection of Scotch Whiskeys. I will let you all fine gentlemen know how these activities are going.



lol you are too old to make women happy.
you said the gdc devs asked you to back off, but you still here Huh?  hating IOTA doesn't buy you anything.

I hate nobody. I don't even hate David or Sergey, why should I? Sergey never had a woman, he is a 37 years old virgin. David is a dreamer who could never make the final table of a poker tournament, at the same time that's all he dreams about: winning a poker tournament. You don't hate such piteous young men, why would you. Their project is another matter. IOTA epitomizes the problems faced by the cryptocurrency movement. The so many pathetic wankers who came together around IOTA (and of course the another blatant scam LISK) and eagerly wait the P&D, those ultimate assholes with their 1 BTC investment talking nonsense about business (IoT) which they have no knowledge nor experience whatsoever - that irritates me, not David or Sergey. Satoshi's fine idea became the the playground of these chief wankers, the 1 BTC "investors" of these "projects".

I even fed up with Ethereum. Just as I am generally fed up with crypto (except BTC, though the fucking Chinese miners and the greed of those fucking corrupt, communist opportunists really test my unconditional support for BTC). You remember very well, I said everyone in August/Sept 2014, buy as much ETH as you can via the crowdsale. I made so much money for many friends - including you - who listen me in the VRC thread at the time with the ETH investment. Now I couldn't even bother with ETH, I exited it months ago. I liked so much Gavin Wood, I supported so much Vitalik, but I am so very much disappointed about the direction of ETH. The DAO project is just another nail in the coffin. Nonsense.  My rants and anger are not exclusive to IOTA. Generally crypto is heading to the wrong direction. These wankers with the LISK and IOTA signatures under their nick, and the IOTA, LISK shills are mainly responsible for that wrong direction. David and Sergey, or the LISK liars couldn't operate, couldn't make a disgrace from Satoshi's idea without the assistance of these pathetic 1 BTC volume "investors".

146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: May 11, 2016, 07:38:21 PM


Since you are completely wrong, here is the truth: WE DON'T HAVE A SINGLE INVESTOR. How many times do I have to repeat this before it sticks to your greymatter? Seriously. We said 1 month before we even announced the sale that it was not for investors, it's not a security, it's not an asset, it's software for Internet-of-Things. That was the premise for your purchase, if you bought it for any other reason that is 100% on you and we will respond in this tone every.single.time.

As for delays, there has been no significant delays. The GUI was never part of what you purchased, the GUI was something we decided to make at the end of the sale period, it was never in the roadmap or purchase. Again this has been said 100 times. Beta commenced literally on schedule, delayed about a week due to christmas and new years (even though we were all working throughout the entire holidays). So again, you're in the wrong, as ALWAYS. Re: GUI delays (which you never had any right to in the first place), they have also been addressed ad nauseam, how are you unable to retain this information? We have been 100% open about the cause of the delays in real time constantly.


David, David ... you are deluding yourself, because nobody else believes in this forum nor in law enforcement that you indeed sold a software.

You were selling the IOTA tokens on the most notorious forum of the universe, which forum is exclusively dedicated to crypto currencies. You are continuously defending your failed record of delivery by saying that in fact you delivered 20x ROI already. It is quoted several times in this thread that you are proudly telling how big ROI you delivered. At same time, you also keep telling your investors that don't worry, you are talking to crypto currency exchanges to list IOTA. So there is an entity which was sold on a cryptocurrency forum, it has ROI and it will be traded on cryptocurrency exchanges. One would think over age 12 and having IQ over 55 that this is a crypto currency then - regardless how you call it. Still, you are deluding yourself that it can be a software, just because you call it software. No, it can't. You sold a financial security instrument.

EDIT:
The same apply to the blatant LISK scam. That wanker German lawyer who organised the whole scam labelled the investment as "donation". Calling it donation doesn't change the nature of the product - it is an investment security.
147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: May 11, 2016, 07:13:01 PM
I also renew my appreciation to you and your work, but I warn you that you've made a big mistake: you have chosen a partner with little experience (and little mind vision) and he is also very arrogant, this affect the success of the project.

Yep. Wasn't it obvious from the beginning? I told you, the boy has zero experience in business and IoT. Then he collected money for an IoT business. Of course. All his experience is fraud and luring out money from the noobs, naive users and idiots by selling a coin which now - as he realized the law enforcement is after him - suddenly a software. It's not only "affect" the success of the project. A project doesn't need enemy when the CEO is such a hopeless momma-basement operator clown like David is.


... iotatoken fake information on the hired person that for 4 times have failed to finish their job. This for me is a scam allert an the italian topic is high indexed on google.

Well, you will have more and more scam alert in the future, because the whole thing has been a scam. Read this thread back, it explains why the IOTA IoT and asynchronous processor comedy are scam.

PS:
I couldn't resist to make this comment. These scammers never fail to disappoint by being completely incapable to deliver anything. Btw the LISK scam is even worst and consequently it has attracted even more noobs, naive users and idiots.
148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: May 11, 2016, 06:55:01 PM
The Gadgetcoin developers asked me if I support the GDC project publicly on this forum, then I should not be so hostile to other projects. Fair enough, point is taken on board. Therefore, I am focusing on what I am very good at. These are including but not limited to making women extremely happy and delighted in sex, playing in amateur golf tournaments and testing the newest collection of Scotch Whiskeys. I will let you all fine gentlemen know how these activities are going.

How is GDC progressing? Do you have a link to its source code or currently only documentation is available?

I think they are progressing all right. Though I always said they have no more than 10% chance to succeed ... which is precisely 10% more than the majority of crypto projects, including the nonsense which you working on have.
Terms of the source code, terms of the lines of code, I have never counted but they have delivered easily 100x as much as IOTA has delivered. But I am sure Sergey you have already forked the whole thing because you have no IoT code, so you will have to copy it, which I am sure you did already.

I have been hearing the story from the GDC devs how the partnership with IOTA couldn't progress. At the same time, your partner David boy keep bullshitting your community about all kind of GUI devs which didn't deliver. Interestingly, David boy never commissioned the GUI design to the GDC devs who offered their help and can deliver, but David always paid for someone who of course couldn't deliver. Really? So the GDC devs told David that they can design the IOTA GUI easily. And then David went to some other devs who never delivered? It doesn't add up. When I read David's bullshitting about the GUI I start to understand he is even a bigger wanker that I ever thought he is. You understand that as well Sergey by now, if not your supporters will tell you every day from now.

Leave the sinking ship Sergey, the police will make you leave it anyway, it is better if you make the move to the right direction voluntarily.

149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: May 11, 2016, 06:08:51 PM
what's happening altcoinuk??? you disappeared from BCtalk, ryver.

I have not disappeared. The Gadgetcoin developers asked me if I support the GDC project publicly on this forum, then I should not be so hostile to other projects. Fair enough, point is taken on board. Therefore, I am focusing on what I am very good at. These are including but not limited to making women extremely happy and delighted in sex, playing in amateur golf tournaments and testing the newest collection of Scotch Whiskeys. I will let you all fine gentlemen know how these activities are going.

150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 09:06:15 PM
No wonder you don't, you don't have any academic background nor any experience.

I feel your pain, no doubt it really hurts when someone not having your academic degree nor your experience is much more successful. Maybe accept the harsh truth that the youth power > wisdom of the old. Buddhism might help you on the road to reality acceptance.

Sergey, you are trolling me again, but for the benefit of others, the IOTA scam is not a success story. Was the luring of money from the idiots an effective and efficient operation terms of getting the money? Surely it was in that sense, because you got the money, but getting the money via a fraud is not an achievement. (Having this discussion about success indicates what we are dealing with - normally you don't have such conversation, you can have this with only scammers and trolls). You can't put on your CV that "I scammed $500k from 230 idiots within 4 weeks and 5 days, and then told them that fuck off, you bought a software, hahaha" ... this is not what can be included in your CV - except if you present the CV to some other Belarusian scammers.
151  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: April 21, 2016, 08:53:57 PM
chinese miners are true freedom fighters ... which of you in the west would risk your necks to run a quasi-legal operation under a communist, totalitarian regime? They chop heads off in china, the chinese miners probably have a stronger ethos for freedom than a lot of the part-timers in the west who pay lip-service to freedom and then hand fat checks to the corrupt governments and banksters while they get the shaft from them.

Bitcoin mining has gravitated to the strongest hands, just as it was designed to be ... you cant truly know freedom until you have truly known oppression.

Oh please, where did you hear that freedom fighter story? Freedom means nothing to 99.9999% of Chinese. Otherwise China wouldn't be a corrupt, totalitarian, semi-marxist dictatorship.
None of the Chinese miners operate without the blessing of a corrupt communist party official. Like anything in China BTC mining is corrupt, unethical and controlled by the communist elite. Otherwise the virtually free electricity wouldn't be available for the miners.
152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 08:37:37 PM
I no longer got time for you

Surely that's the case. That's why you monitor 24/7 when I come here to write something and then you show up to explain yourself. Pathetic really.


got to do some actual work

One of the issues among many is, that you don't do any work. No wonder you don't, you don't have any academic background nor any experience. Scamming the idiots with the help of these greedy shills is not a work experience, even if you are indeed effective in it.


153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 08:26:24 PM
Some cleaning has been done. Next time don't quote altcoinUK, please.

Fuck off Sergey. My posts, deep thoughts, fine conclusions and spot on analysis were the only quality material of your thread.
154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 08:21:29 PM
Can I hire you as a lawyer altcoinUK? You are way better than all other lawyers in the universe. I will make a new token and pay you in it, promise!

You need a criminal lawyer son. You are a fraudster. Tough you are lucky, if you stay in Norway you will be shipped to a nice prison. Like that wanker Breivik who killed 77 innocent people, he has TV, computer, play station. Quite astonishing. You will have as well, but because you won't be isolated your tight ass will be penetrated daily bases by the horny prison population. Not that I have anything against gay people, we are not in the 1970s, just letting you know about your future sex life for that 4-5 years period.

155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 08:07:57 PM
But it was just told you above, David was trying to explain really-really hard, there is no investment, no asset. It was not a get rich scheme. Not at all. You bought a software. How can a purchased software be an asset? Oh wait, perhaps David sold a coin, because he also said he is already delivered a 20x ROI ... for the software ... which is not an asset not a coin ... but there is an ROI. Oh boy ... how messy is the pathetic attempt to mask the illegal financial security selling.

They are different perspectives. What I was talking about is from the perspective of a buyer. Actually each buyer may have a different perspective as well.

Yes, they are in the IOTA thread that tries to sell some shit to the idiots. In reality it is either an investment product or a software. It can't be both. If it was, c'est la vie, we sold a software and it is your responsibility to make it work - that's what David said isn't it - then there cannot be investment, ROI nor an asset. Such two entirely different propositions could only coexists in the head of a confused shill or in the head of a liar. Pick which is applicable to you.
156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 07:56:12 PM
Yes. I know that much, I'm asking if we may have a breakdown of exactly what goes where and what development costs are like. I'm curious, for example, what the balance between spending on Iota vs Jinn is like. Etc etc.

Would be nice to also have an understanding of the size of the team and what the burn rate is.


Like any other sane start-up we won't open our spreadsheets, no. But in general: with exception of salaries to CfB so he can feed his family, our burn rate remains very low, the biggest expense thus far has been the VAT tax to the Norwegian state on the software sale itself. (Welcome to the real world of business, you can't just put money in your pocket). Which is why I work for free, so that we can put the vast majority into Jinn development.

IOTA team still consist of Me, Serguei(Mthcl) and CfB. I won't digress this thread into explaining the Jinn team and roadmap, I have already stated that this comes post-IOTA launch in Jinn thread on nxtforum.

As for the roadmap of IOTA: last-stage of beta and then launch, help exchanges add it, launch new website and video.
From thereon out the adoption and marketing will be taken care of by the foundation and community itself, as was the plan from day 1.

Of course on the side of this is a lot of partnerships and marketing that we have been working on which will be announced mostly post-Foundation founding.

Oh dear, oh dear. What a stupid boy. The scammer thinks that calling the blatant scam a software sale and pay tax on the income save his ass. Oh dear. He thinks scammers and fraudsters don't have to go to jail if they pay some tax. Desperate and pathetic, like all scammers with no class. LOL he even paid tax.
 
157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 07:45:22 PM
increase the value of IOTA, namely the value of your own assets. As investors, we all need to sit down and seriously think about how to make our investment worth more and valuable instead of just coming to BTT every days to ask questions and wait for the big news coming out and dreaming of other people working hard for this projects.

If you are not a whale, IOTA could be your last opportunity to become rich in the cryptocurrency world. Actually now you as an individual have a chance to make it happen by helping on the testing and the core team, searching, thinking, and researching on the real business opportunities and marketing strategies, getting IOTA connected to more programmers and startups and entrepreneurs in the IoT space , and many more.


The IOTA shill (sockpuppet?) Tobo admits it was a token sell "to become rich".

But it was just told you above, David was trying to explain really-really hard, there is no investment in IOTA, there is no asset in IOTA - it is a software product. It was not a get rich scheme. Not at all. You bought a software. How can a software product be a coin asset with ROI in the same time? Oh wait, perhaps David sold a coin, because he also said he is already delivered a 20x ROI ... for the software ... which is not an asset not a coin ... but there is an ROI. Oh boy ... how messy is this, even Tobo shill/sockpuppet nick can't get his head around what was sold.
158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 07:40:01 PM
Your vision is hard to understand, you collected nearly a million dollars and you dont want to spend even € 10,000 for a decent marketing campaign.I dont want to open a discussion or do protest,but if you think in that way we are practically burned at the start.

I know everyone is impatient because iota did not launch yet, ofc there is not much visible marketing right now, it's too early. But I'm sure once it launches david has some announcements that will boost marketing by itself. No need to pay for thunderclap campaigns or signature ads. Btw what campaign would you run? Some articles on a crypto news site? An ad in a newspaper? A giveaway?
What iota needs are business connections. And use cases, which we, the community can do.

But honestly, let's put your statement into perspective: Imagine you buy a physical casascius bitcoin, and hope to trade it for more money later. Would you expect Mark (the creator) to launch a marketing campaingn, praising his coins, after you bought it? No. Because the deal was: 1 physical coin for your money.

The deal with iota was your BTC for tokens. The devs are free to spend the 500k for blackjack and hookers imo, after they deliver the software, which they will.


Warning! IOTA shill alert.

When an "investor" say it is OK the devs spend the 500k for blackjack and hookers, then everyone can be pretty sure it is either a sockpuppet or a shill. Never mind the shill say it was token sold ... not a software.
159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 07:35:54 PM

Your vision is hard to understand, you collected nearly a million dollars and you dont want to spend even € 10,000 for a decent marketing campaign.


Alright let's just get this straight once and for all as I don't have time to address this ad nauseam:

First of all I abhor dealing with people who just make up facts. 1 million dollars? We raised ~500 000 dollars, of which a significant portion was JINN tokens that can't be used to buy things. So nowhere near 1 million dollars, unless you have a cheque worth 500 000 dollars that you just forgot to give us? If that's the case then we can of course discuss how to use these 500K to market IOTA.

And 10 000 euro for marketing? The work we have already done in that regard for the past 5 months is worth far more than 10 000 euro. Why do you think IOTA trades at 20x its ICO price? That is the value of what we have already done. For free.

We said from day 1 that this is a COMMUNITY PROJECT. Otherwise we'd set aside a pre-mine. Why did we do this? Because we did not want people to become passive bystanders that don't participate, and to be 100% free from the cancerous mentality of people who think they own you because they bought software from you. EVERYONE knew this and EVERYONE agreed to this when purchasing IOTA.

No person has worked harder for your iota to become known and adopted in the world than me. I have worked literally EVERY day since October on IOTA, I have conducted tens of interviews, done all the branding and marketing as well as management of the project. I got tons of things lined up. So I am not going to sit here and listen to someone tell me what to do. You get the software you paid for and the additional boost from our work. You got no more rights than that. I absolutely despise how some people think they OWN people because they bought software from them.



The fine display of the pathetic struggle of a stupid scammer who try to mask a token ICO as a software sale.

First, you idiot admit that IOTA in fact is a financial instrument (albeit illegal one) and you delivered already 20x ROI. Then, you stupid fuck start the usual masking and pathetic lies to tell that in fact they bought a software. Which one is then you piece of shit? Is it a software which they need to make it work or is it a token which you deliver 20X ROI?
160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: April 21, 2016, 07:25:25 PM
fully agree with this. The BTC raised in the crowdfound must be used for marketing branding and other important thing. You can not expect that this matter must be done by the crowdfound members.I know community and work group are important but the money you have raised are also important to do something.I have the impression that you're asking too much to the community! Which are already people who have largely financed you and your project.

No. You don't go to the store to buy football shoes and then expect the seller to also train you how to play football and ensure that you make it to the champions league. You bought IoT software, no more and no less. Not a single dollar of the money we raised were EVER said to go to marketing or branding, only the software. The work we have done for marketing, branding, adoption etc. for the past 5 months has been our volunteer work as community members. Remember we didn't even set aside a single iota premine to ourselves, precisely because this is a community project; if the community fails to deliver it is 100% responsible. This has been clear from day 1, so please stop being passive and do something.

Now we have setup the foundation initiative as a way for the community to CHOOSE if they want us to continue doing the marketing etc. but it's not something anyone will do for free. You did not buy some magic lottery ticket that entitles you to a ROI. Stop with this bystander effect.

Your vision is hard to understand, you collected nearly a million dollars and you dont want to spend even € 10,000 for a decent marketing campaign.I dont want to open a discussion or do protest,but if you think in that way we are practically burned at the start.

Cfb what is your opinion about this? You want to invest  some crowdfound btc for a marketing campaign or we do a free campaign(!!) maded by  someone chosen at random among IOTA owners?Some good Samaritan which had invested in IOTA and then donated them to the foundation and then work .... for free!(an ideal world but very far from reality)

Yep. Give up man. You were scammed. Send your details with quoting IOTA to either the Norway, UK, US or Russian law enforcement. Following our submission all of them have opened a case for the blatant IOTA scam. More victims and complaints speed up the process and get the scammers to prison quicker.
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