and I am sure some were saying the opposite, views are very different within any community. What it all comes down to is being in a community you comfortable with . I don't know if convincing others not to feel comfortable in any given environment helps or not. People will gravitate to the people they want to be with.
Well said. If the "kingpins" of NLG have this kind of perspective, I am sure that this coin will have a brighter future. Before stepping into this Snakepit, ask yourself these questions: Do you really feel comfortable in a community of dictatorship of Rijk, who is pretending to run a business instead of a decentral cryptocurrency? Do you really feel comfortable with a community who will share personal data if you do not follow the leader (rijk) or if you have some valid critisism? Do you really want to be in a manipulative community where you do not see the strings very clear but they are certainly there? Puppetmaster Rijk only accepts you and his other followers when you lick his ..., otherwise BAN! and maybe worse, they will talk about you if you were a criminal, while off course, they are the criminals with their overpriced Gulden Premine Sell off. Just read this thread from page ~47 and you all will understand. Is Waterloodown part of Gulden, he has not posted in a long time? Waterloodown is paid by Gulden, if he was part of Gulden he would do development (with Malcolm) for free and Gulden didn't need the premine. Once you give up anonymity and dedicate yourself to a project you get paid, ETH, Dash, Ripple etc Coins with anonymous developers can create a million coins, dump and move onto the next. This is how anonymous scam developers get paid. I will never invest in a coin with anonymous developers. Who said something about anonymous developers? Lack of reading skills are a big handicap at the Gulden community. You are implying developers must work for free? Context matters. Steve Jobs got paid but he also was part of Apple. Evan Duffield gets paid and he is part of Dash. |
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and I am sure some were saying the opposite, views are very different within any community. What it all comes down to is being in a community you comfortable with . I don't know if convincing others not to feel comfortable in any given environment helps or not. People will gravitate to the people they want to be with.
Well said. If the "kingpins" of NLG have this kind of perspective, I am sure that this coin will have a brighter future. Before stepping into this Snakepit, ask yourself these questions: Do you really feel comfortable in a community of dictatorship of Rijk, who is pretending to run a business instead of a decentral cryptocurrency? Do you really feel comfortable with a community who will share personal data if you do not follow the leader (rijk) or if you have some valid critisism? Do you really want to be in a manipulative community where you do not see the strings very clear but they are certainly there? Puppetmaster Rijk only accepts you and his other followers when you lick his ..., otherwise BAN! and maybe worse, they will talk about you if you were a criminal, while off course, they are the criminals with their overpriced Gulden Premine Sell off. Just read this thread from page ~47 and you all will understand. Is Waterloodown part of Gulden, he has not posted in a long time? Waterloodown is paid by Gulden, if he was part of Gulden he would do development (with Malcolm) for free and Gulden didn't need the premine. Once you give up anonymity and dedicate yourself to a project you get paid, ETH, Dash, Ripple etc Coins with anonymous developers can create a million coins, dump and move onto the next. This is how anonymous scam developers get paid. I will never invest in a coin with anonymous developers. |
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and I am sure some were saying the opposite, views are very different within any community. What it all comes down to is being in a community you comfortable with . I don't know if convincing others not to feel comfortable in any given environment helps or not. People will gravitate to the people they want to be with.
Well said. If the "kingpins" of NLG have this kind of perspective, I am sure that this coin will have a brighter future. Before stepping into this Snakepit, ask yourself these questions: Do you really feel comfortable in a community of dictatorship of Rijk, who is pretending to run a business instead of a decentral cryptocurrency? Do you really feel comfortable with a community who will share personal data if you do not follow the leader (rijk) or if you have some valid critisism? Do you really want to be in a manipulative community where you do not see the strings very clear but they are certainly there? Puppetmaster Rijk only accepts you and his other followers when you lick his ..., otherwise BAN! and maybe worse, they will talk about you if you were a criminal, while off course, they are the criminals with their overpriced Gulden Premine Sell off. Just read this thread from page ~47 and you all will understand. To answer your question, yes. Hedge your bets in other coins that don't have a supreme commander like Vladamir Putin , this is why I invest in Dash as there is no leader. |
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Do you think it is fair that Rijk dumped the premine on the back of the new users and not being honest about it? Dash has a wonderful government system. Where there is a treasury. People can actual vote on proposals. There is no dictator like Rijk in Dash.
My god have you been living under a rock, Evan Duffield has taken far more abuse and accused of a lot more things by shills like you and donnatello on bitcointalk. He ignored the trolls and look how well Dash is doing today, the same will be for Gulden in the future. https://medium.com/@omiros23/evans-and-dash-s-scam-story-add1f16528ae#.e7hnzfc3gHow come you Gulden shills always talk about trolling when the truth is being spoken? The XMR communities truth. |
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Do you think it is fair that Rijk dumped the premine on the back of the new users and not being honest about it? Dash has a wonderful government system. Where there is a treasury. People can actual vote on proposals. There is no dictator like Rijk in Dash.
My god have you been living under a rock, Evan Duffield has taken far more abuse and accused of a lot more things by shills like you and donnatello on bitcointalk. He ignored the trolls and look how well Dash is doing today, the same will be for Gulden in the future. https://medium.com/@omiros23/evans-and-dash-s-scam-story-add1f16528ae#.e7hnzfc3g |
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That is very good aspect of Rijk. He should have integrity.
But is it true he dumped some of the premine (on the backs of new users) to sell shares?
Doesn't have the community have a say on this? That's dictatorial behavior. Its not his Gulden but ours. We could have a vote what happends with the premine and when and how much is being spent.
Otherwise he is no more different than the Rothchilds.
Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community because someone has to take the decisions. When i want that a community is leading i was full in Bitcoin and you see what than is happening: nothing. A Crypto need someone who is the boss. I am sorry. I thought the community had a say in this. I thought Gulden was a decentralised crypto. It seems like Gulden and Ripple are the same: Big premine and good development. Can Rijk confirm the above? If so, then there was just a big misunderstanding. Ripple is centralized and Gulden is decentralized. This Rijk fellow can't put a gun to your head and tell you how to use your Gulden. Bitcointalk, slack etc is a community platform where rules can be made and enforced. I don't see the problem? |
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Ignore the trolls, they want to cause fear because they know this is a sound investment.
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I can't believe the run Dash is having. I did end up selling half my stock to buy more when the price corrects. It's the first time I have sold Dash as I am a long term holder for coins I know have potential.
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You don't know any coin that releases faster? Perhaps you don't know other coins?
Bitcoin and Dash delivers much more releases than Gulden. Gulden is in the top 5 of fast releasers but it isn't the fastest.
Dash in the past has released innovative features quicker, Gulden is only starting to do this since 1.6.0 release. Gulden can learn a lesson from Dash that innovation is what will drive a coins value up. 2017 Dash and Gulden will be mainly doing innovation projects according to what I see on the Roadmap and Gulden is the better investment at these prices. Dash had a really good run in the last month and needs to be stable for awhile. |
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Golden is not a good investment option, the dev largely hold the tokens for premine, they may sell some for fiat fund in the future, at that time the price will be crashing. I don't want to be a bagholder, if I invest in Gulden, this is very possible to happen. I avoid to buy Gulden, although they have real users.
I know why you went for Waves it's 100% premine and easy to pump but NLG is using the funds for very good development. |
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I have some Gulden in my wallet altough I sold a lot during the first pump. I made fantastic profits, so I cannot blame anyone as this coin was very profitable to me. I think that it has potential to repeat a huge pump, especially, if we take into account the climate of the upcoming elections in Holland. Remember, for example, Aurora coin and elections in Iceland.
This Prime development will cause some interest but don't expect it out in March like the roadmap says. The devs are always late on projects , not only Gulden devs but all devs. Prime will be out in May. Team was only 2 weeks behind on the massive 1.6.0 release, I don't see them being 2 months behind schedule on Prime. This is the best investment imo out of all the coins out there. I only say this because DASH has gone up a lot in value this last week. This coin should be $100 million in marketcap with the projects coming up. |
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it is true that the app is not in the store right now. iOS
TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE but why is this? @bram_vnl: can you tell us why the app was kicked out? thank you. Digibyte iOS app was kicked out because we not a top 20 currency on coinmarketcap. This must be the same reason for Guldens, Apple only look at currencies that have a high value. Buy a Android device it's that simple or be subjected to a master / slave relationship with Apple. Not true, there are other iOS apps approved which are not in top 20. Like Creditbit: https://itunes.apple.com/cv/app/creditpay/id1073551373?mt=8In 10 years iOS will be a relic , one of my friends who was a iOS fanatic has switched to Android because of devices like the Nvidia shield and Kodi combo. Using Android app to control his samsung tv/soundbar combo eventually made him switch. The issue Apple is going to have is they too conservative compared to when Jobs was running things. Not saying the devs shouldn't pursue getting back onto the app store but the devs need to show they can bring in proper innovation and not only rely on their brilliant wallets. This is why the next project called Prime is their most important one by a million miles. |
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This is true Tamilee, no one is giving DELTA the credit it deserves. I have been involved in crypto for a long time with litecoin being the first alt coin I invested in. Litecoin has the advantage of having the highest marketcap for scrypt and real dedicated mining without the wild swings in hash rate other coins will have.
Scrypt mining is a lot more centralised then SHA256 and makes it harder to have miners willing to put dedicated mining power to a specific coin,
I also supported Noblecoin and they couldn't solve the problem and moved from scrypt to full PoS, a lot of coins went with a Multi-algo solution to solve this issue especially those that were on scrypt algo. Others like Feathercoin changed to a completely new algorithm and Doge , VIA went with merged mining on litecoin.
The Gulden developers decided to face the challenge of Multipools headon and they beat the problem, without as you say running away to another solution that could have it's own problems in the future.
In the event Gulden takes over from litecoin in value , litecoin will have to implement a solution to keep it's blockchain running properly or face very long blocks, for Gulden it doesn't matter what happens the blockchain will keep running great thanks to their DELTA solution.
Regarding the Premine, most sane people would not have invested in Gulden if the team was anonymous. Most serious people know a coin doesn't run itself and needs support and this creates confidence that the coin will be supported well into the future. This is how the real world works. Coins supported by anonymous developers = Pump and Dumps and not beholden to anyone if they want to pack it up and leave what small communities they have high and dry.
This + 10000, Dash also has investment from the community and if the communities are investing you have a solid base and they believe in your project. |
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We wouldn't have this discussion when Gulden (or any other altcoin) wasn't premined like crazy. There is currently 337,487,045 guldens in circulation.
And 170,000,000 of them were premined? - no comment on that.
Coinmarketcap says : Available Supply 337,487,745 NLG Total Supply 439,507,900 NLG So it seems you are misrepresenting the situation, 439500000 in circulation and only 102000000 of that still in premine. If premine is being slowly used to fund actual development, which seems to be the case, then whats the problem? More honest than most the ICO crap or other junk we see in my opinion. They angry because the Gulden devs are making them look stupid. Litecoin $225 million marketcap and this coin destroys it. Dash and Gulden will be the kings of 2017. |
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If Monero can get an official GUI wallet in the next month or two, 2017 could be a very big year.
hmmm still no GUI and yet Top10 + inflation {hate to omit it ... but this starts to make Dash look good} XMR is kept afloat by 1 really rich investor that also has a big stake in Poloniex. Dash for anonymous victory. Gulden is already destroying litecoin as a mainstream alternative to Bitcoin. |
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I made a new account, I was DashLTC but after having sold the last of my litecoin yesterday I have changed my name to this. I am big fan of this coin and Dash as you both doing actual work and improvements and not only talking.
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