Are you guys using reCAPTCHA v3? If so, how does it fare comparing to v2?
Yes. It's completely different as it doesn't give a challenge. Google just give a score based on their risk assessment. It isn't accurate enough to be much use. |
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Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.
I wish that was true but unfortunately, Google have shot their own reCaptcha to pieces by pioneering picture recognition technology. There are still a lot 3rd world captcha solving farms using humans but the more sophisticated bots can solve them automatically. Captcha is only an obstacle to small scale amateur abusers. |
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Beside the abusing of free dogecoin, they key issue is that it doesn't have those wagering bonuses and there is variable betsize (binded into DOGE/BTC price) as well as limited MAX win there, 800,000 DOGE by the last time visited the site. I once tried to write a dicing bot for it, but risk/reward ratio is not as expected (for the same strategy, a specified balance can't survive as long as if it is converted to BTC and played in the main site) as well as minimum bet size keep changing throughout the day (0.026 -> 0.03). If they are to make it interesting for gamblers and fixed the minimum betsize & max win, they can easily get out with profit regardless of abusers.
The issues with Doge are the amount of time it takes to fight abuse. It's a labour-intensive task and the profits didn't justify the costs. The other limiting factor is the Doge core software. It hasn't been maintained and updated as the Bitcoin core software has. That means that our node struggled to deal with the volume of transactions we were doing making it frequently lag the network causing support issues. If we had done anything to try and increase the volume on the site that would have just got worse. |
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I rummaged through the entire site but still could not find how to see the history of my sports betting? I selected all the options from the drop-down list, but there are no results of mine, there is either nothing, or all past events. What am I doing wrong?
It's under the category "My Expired Bets" for one month after the event ends and then it is deleted. When I go into My expired bets from a phone I can’t see them, but on my laptop this history is visible. It is strange I don’t know what this is connected with, but instead of the history with past events there a proposal to play Bitcoin multiplication. Did you know that your faucet can be abused by using VPN? I forgot that I had it turned on, went to the freebtc and there is no countdown, I can request 22 satoshi again. Are you sure you didn't just accidentally create a new account on your phone?
The 5% rake is pretty high however compared to the other sports betting sites that use BTC.
Mind naming them? OneHash is the only other mutual sports betting site that I'm aware of, and they also rake 5%. If you're talking about traditional sites, no one has a 0.5% to 1% margin. I'm not offering a bet here but out of curiosity what odds would you offer on The Village Idiot answering this or going back and correcting his false statement? There's probably a random Ethereum dApp somewhere with a low rake (but probably zero volume). If we exclude those, I'm going to say 33% chance of ignoring, 66% chance of deflecting, 0.9% chance of actually knowing something and 0.1% on going back and correcting. Let's say odds of 2.8/1.30/25/100 respectively (with some margin of course  ) Not actually offering thisWe have a winner. Ignore is the winning outcome. He ignored it and ran away to spam our other thread with an equally ludicrous claim. ~The HIGH end for a house edge online is 1% while most normal online sites use 0.05 to 0.5
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You can use any email service you want. You must be able to send an email? You will get a better response using the official support channel than you will on the forum.
Well, I suppose I can try and send a encrypted mail, though wont that be looked down on by the powers that be? Even if it is just a request to fix this mess. Sincerely, Use a disposable email that can't be traced to you and there is no issue. |
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Unfortunately I do not have a ProtonMail at the moment, is there any way to resolve this issue on the forum, or will I need to get a mail adress?
Thank you so much for your help, it means a lot!
You can use any email service you want. You must be able to send an email? You will get a better response using the official support channel than you will on the forum. |
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@Herbert2020 I think your question has been replied to many times already. Implementing native Segwit would be very difficult to do because of the way indexing is done. I guess a lot of us would like it too but for me, the withdrawal fee is already very low, even compared to Segwit sites!
you misunderstood my question. i was not asking about "user's deposit addresses" but the very small number of addresses (basically the 2 main ones) that the "site itself" is using for consolidating inputs from user addresses and payments. and i posted those two addresses already. i don't think there is any need to index anything if they simply change the old 1Fu... address to a bc1q address, specially since payment handling,... should be happening as a separate module. The 1Fu.. address is used to sweep deposits to. We only do that when the fees are 1 sat/byte so it wouldn't really make much difference. |
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I can post the session ID, though I suppose that might not be a smart idea to do on a open forum?
Definitely do not do that. Email ChipMixer support at the email shown on the site and they will resolve any issues. |
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BTW TheQuin, how do I see my withdrawal history? I see a deposit history and also a total amount of withdrawal, but only a list for last 30 days. I want to remember which wallet I withdrew too =p
You can only see the last 30 days because that's all we keep.
I rummaged through the entire site but still could not find how to see the history of my sports betting? I selected all the options from the drop-down list, but there are no results of mine, there is either nothing, or all past events. What am I doing wrong?
It's under the category "My Expired Bets" for one month after the event ends and then it is deleted.
The 5% rake is pretty high however compared to the other sports betting sites that use BTC.
Mind naming them? OneHash is the only other mutual sports betting site that I'm aware of, and they also rake 5%. If you're talking about traditional sites, no one has a 0.5% to 1% margin. I'm not offering a bet here but out of curiosity what odds would you offer on The Village Idiot answering this or going back and correcting his false statement? |
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It seems to me that the "Betting" page needs to be improved, it is not intuitive enough. To get into the history of your bets you need to click the drop-down menu and look at the bottom for the history of your bets, and when you go there if the event is not completed there is no information other than “Pending”, this is not what you expect to see.
"Select Category" is the only action point on the page so it is obvious that is the only place to look. "Pending" is where events that are no longer accepting new bets but have yet to be paid are. "My Bets" is where your active bets are and they move to "My Expired Bets" after they are paid out. I think it would be difficult to make it any easier. |
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It's odd but when we put American sports up they didn't get much interest. What? You've never had the NFL/MLB/NHL/NBA on the sports betting thing board that I've seen. Wrong yet again. That is the only thing you are consistent about. We haven't done NFL as it was off-season when we started the event betting but we have had all of MLB, NHL and NBA games. Please stop spamming our thread with false information and correct all your lies in previous posts. |
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Both Ponzi schemes and pyramid schemes eventually bottom out when the flood of new investors dries up
Freebitco.in uses a small part of the income generated (profit) to pay interest and referral commissions and does not have any similarity to a Ponzi.
Thanx for proving the point that the site is a ponzi beautifully. Just replace the word "investors" with "gamblers" and there you have it, ponzi scheme. Lucky for you BTC is carrying you to the top. It's dragging lots of people/projects to the top whether they want to or not. You really can't read, can you? A Ponzi pays out existing investors from new investments without actually generating a real return. A legitimate business like ours pays out investors from revenues. Taking yesterday as an example 139.496 BTC was wagered giving a theoretical income of 6.9748 BTC. We paid out 0.168 BTC in interest. That is not a Ponzi and if you any self-respect or honesty you will go back and edit every post that you have made that false and libellous claim in. |
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Building up the bonus percentage is hard as that's what I'm trying to do right now so I can earn more from the free claims. Does adding btc to the site help build this bonus up? I know that playing multiply and buying lottery tickets does but it seems like we need to play a lot or buy a lot of tickets for this to build up.
It's a wagering bonus so only wagering increases it. The % towards next Free BTC bonus goes up when you play Hi-Lo, jackpots, betting or buy lottery tickets and down when you do a free roll. I didn't notice that when you do a free roll the bonus percentage goes down? I might look at wagering on events then to help build this up but the events currently on the site ain't sports I like to bet on. You should add more sports like the American sports, NBA, NFL and NHL. This could be very good and wagering will also increase very quickly and high as I noticed many memebrs love to bet on these American sports but these are not available on site right now admin must check this and try to post specially on Basketball and NFL. It's odd but when we put American sports up they didn't get much interest. Global sports especially international matches seem to do a lot better. We are working on getting a fixed-odds betting feed integrated. That will allow a much wider range of bets to be available and it will be automated so there will be a lot less work for me putting bets up and paying out winners. |
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Actually it IS a ponzi if you think about it. Since ALL the BTC flows to the top (that would be the site owner, TheQuack, and some referral accounts along the way which indeed forms the triangle/pyramid formation of a pyramid which is a form of ponzi) and it can only continue if it has NEW money coming in, then it is, by definition, a Ponzi/Pyramid scheme.
What makes it a ponzi? The offer of an annual return. If it DIDNT have that, it would be a pyramid scheme.
Paying interest and referral commissions only makes it a Ponzi if you are too thick to understand what a Ponzi is. This has been explained to you countless times before but as always you ignore that and repeat your false claims. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/ponzischeme.aspWhat Is a Ponzi Scheme?
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investing scam promising high rates of return with little risk to investors. The Ponzi scheme generates returns for early investors by acquiring new investors. This is similar to a pyramid scheme in that both are based on using new investors' funds to pay the earlier backers. Both Ponzi schemes and pyramid schemes eventually bottom out when the flood of new investors dries up and there isn't enough money to go around. At that point, the schemes unravel.
Freebitco.in uses a small part of the income generated (profit) to pay interest and referral commissions and does not have any similarity to a Ponzi. |
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Building up the bonus percentage is hard as that's what I'm trying to do right now so I can earn more from the free claims. Does adding btc to the site help build this bonus up? I know that playing multiply and buying lottery tickets does but it seems like we need to play a lot or buy a lot of tickets for this to build up.
It's a wagering bonus so only wagering increases it. The % towards next Free BTC bonus goes up when you play Hi-Lo, jackpots, betting or buy lottery tickets and down when you do a free roll. |
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All eligible claims paid up to this post. Reminder: You must post a screenshot of your roll on the FREE BTC page. |
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In my opinion freebitco has a large wagering volume whether there is a Lambo or not. I am sure there are very very few people wagering for Lambo.
I think on the contrary. Everyone knows that 1% of house cannot be conquer in the Dice, sooner or later the time will come when the system will take everything that was earned (if you do not change the algorithm all the time), so most of people make big wager amount for the sake of volume in order to receive bonuses and even win those 22 Bitcoins. That isn't contrary. You can see our wagering volume on the stats page and compare it to other sites. We were consistently in the top 3 and often 1st before the Golden Ticket Lambo competition was introduced. |
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Is this still works? I would use that amount so much.. actually thats the amount what I need to start may strategy for Hi Lo.. Ive already made 0.007 from 0.005 but by chance i bet max and lost all..
So my adress again: 1HsSTPyeurHWPTp88Gsdv55tv5tA2jtjWu
Thanks!
Update1: Sorry, i didn't say what I'm talking about. on the first pages I saw if I write my address here, after 10 rolls I will get 0.005 BTC
Could you show/quote exactly where you found the information about 0.005 BTC bonus after 10 rolls? I have been visiting this site for several years and haven't heard of giveaway like this yet.. It is right back at the beginning of the thread. It was a promotion when the site originally launched and it finished 6 years ago! |
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I downloaded to check who was the person with the most tickets but it is just a notepad file and I am not a developer or coder or even understand from excel that much to get these exported into something else to relist all of them on ticket numbers. I have seen someone with 61k tickets (he was around at the top) but couldn't bother to check each and every single person by eye without using any sort of technology.
Do we at least know the top 3 peoples numbers? I mean to be honest this is just curiosity, nothing more and considering none of it matters since the winner had like 70 or something tickets, it is true that even 1 ticket had a chance to win in lottery and someone with hundreds of thousands of tickets could return back with absolutely nothing in their hands.
To be honest, knowing how many tickets users with top amounts of them had is of mild interest to me. If those 61k tickets were bought that would be interesting because it would be 15 BTC worth of tickets. But, as far as I know, the vast majority of the Golden Ticket were acquired through wagering ( 1 ticket for 500,000 satoshi wagered), so it's impossible to tell how much did people really spend on those tickets. Not impossible, he's already stated that they know how many were "bought". Thus the left over tickets were all from wagering. Then you can use the EV for that amount and you'll arrive at a fairly close estimate within 1-3%. So you still can't answer my points and just ignore your bullshit being challenged? Yet again you overlook something fundamental to arrive at another false conclusion. You are assuming that all wagering in the last 6 months was only done to earn Golden Tickets. The Lambo promotion was done in addition to everything else we already giveaway. It isn't possible to calculate how much extra wagering happened solely because of the promotion. |
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What is the reasoning with not allowing to deposit to more than two addresses in a 24-hour period?
All your old deposit addresses are always valid so you can deposit to as many of them you wish to in a 24 hour period. That means we have to monitor ~40 million addresses. The restriction on creating new deposit addresses was introduced because some idiot programmed a bot to just sit there generating new addresses. Also, couldn't the instant fees scale with the number of deposits, the way bustabit and bustadice handle it? Segwit support would be nice, too.
We prefer to keep fees as low as possible for everyone all the time. We do that by using the average of 3 fee estimators, batching transactions together and good wallet management (only keeping one output UTXO). We support withdrawals to all Segwit addresses and use a Segwit wallet to pay withdrawals. Changing the deposit addresses to Segwit requires a major database reorganisation because the initial deposit address is used to index the accounts. To do that we would have to take the site offline for many hours to implement. Maybe if we have some other necessity to take the site down we could do it at the same time but we don't want to have an outage just for that.
Thanks. So, it's something similar when I have 500-600 tickets in their weekly lottery. It woud be interesting to know how many tickets biggest fishes of Freebitco.in had. @TheQuin, do you have this information?
You can download and analyse the ticket file to find that out. https://twitter.com/freebitco/status/1190070026612531202 |
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