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1401  Economy / Securities / [GLBSE] Bitcorp Mining Company - BTCMC 60+ GH/s, clear ASIC upgrade path. on: June 04, 2012, 07:19:44 PM
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1402  Economy / Economics / Re: Impact of ASIC on BTC price - Lowering the Marginal Cost of Production on: June 04, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
As others here have stated, eventually ROI for Bitcoin mining will approach infinity and be owned by individuals who can never reasonably expect to make their original money back. Perhaps later, when they petition the government or lobby for forced transaction fees in the leading Bitcoin clients, they will have some power.

Right now, while mining is still profitable at all and we are under a 2 year ROI, there doesn't seem to be any reason not to mine if you can afford to. What ASIC design is going to do is make the design a lot of money. Actually buying the miners and mining once ASIC is out is going to be one of the worst financial decisions you can make (unless you can run an entire farm at the cheapest or free electricity rates).

This is exactly why BFL et all should price their products to only have a slightly better ROI than GPU's.  Otherwise they simply fuck over their own market. 
1403  Economy / Securities / Re: Now seeking investors for BitCorp Mining Company on: June 04, 2012, 12:02:00 AM
Attention all current shareholders:


If you could, please setup an account on GLBSE and then ask us to transfer your shares over.  Going forward, it is going to be very cumbersome to pay dividends on GLBSE as well as to holders not holding their shares there.

Basically, we would have to pay every holder twice.....once on GLBSE, then transfer the dividend again to your individual addresses for the shares held in trust.  

You can either PM us with your GLBSE account name, or e-mail us at Bitcorpmining@gmail.com


EDIT:  Front page has been updated with current financials, expansion plans, as well as info on our NEW location. 

May financials will be posted soon.


1404  Economy / Securities / Re: Now seeking investors for BitCorp Mining Company on: June 01, 2012, 01:19:44 PM
Dividends have been paid for May.

the rate was .015 BTC per share (formerly .15 BTC, prior to stock split) 


How does this share split work for us on GLBSE? Should I send you my shares and you send 10x back or how does this work?
//DeaDTerra

DeadTerra, I already transferred your newly issued shared to your account.....you should have the exact same ownership percentage as you did before.  Simply take your new total divided by 10,000 for verification.

Thanks! 
1405  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Post Your Mining Rig Efficiency on: June 01, 2012, 01:18:21 PM
You go around adding BFLs and video cards to everything you can touch, don't you yochdog. lol

I am hitting it hard while I can! 
1406  Economy / Services / Re: 32,000 MH/s mining contract - 14 day term on: June 01, 2012, 01:17:48 PM
out of curiosity, why even make this offer? Why not wait 14 days and make the money yourself?


This has been hashed over numerous times on the boards.....there are many reasons. 
1407  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Post Your Mining Rig Efficiency on: June 01, 2012, 04:32:51 AM
on of my rigs:

4,600 MH/s

955 Watts at the wall

4.81 MH/w



3x BFL singles
2X 7970

I run dual hex-core XEONS, so that takes the efficiency waaaaay down.  

the 7970's are dialed in at 3.08 MH/w though....which is awesome. 
1408  Economy / Economics / Re: Impact of ASIC on BTC price - Lowering the Marginal Cost of Production on: June 01, 2012, 04:12:27 AM
I think our only hope is that the ASIC manufacturers think rationally about the future market for their product, and do the following:

Price their respective ASIC's to be cheaper on a $/GH, but not by very much.  This will discourage a mass stampede of miners extrapolating imediate results out to infinity and therefor crushing all mining profitability. 

I think of it this way:  I can buy 100x 5970's and the corresponding hardware for lets say $35,000 and generate 70 GH/s.  Thus I am paying $500/GH.  If I can go buy an ASIC that gives me the same 70 GH/s for $20,000, myself and every other miner of means is going right out and buying it.  In doing so, we ensure our own destruction. 

The only thing that will prevent this is keeping the projected ROI on new ASIC investment relatively close to that of GPU's.  It is better for the ASIC manufacturer (higher profit), as well as all miners (sustainability).  It is a rare win/win.

I hope the BFL boys have thought this through.  Keeping GPU miners around is in their best interests.   
1409  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin just a stupid game for bored nerds? on: June 01, 2012, 02:23:27 AM
Bump. Reading through this thread, I've already been filled with self-doubt.

lmfao. 
1410  Economy / Goods / Re: Bitcoin Mini Frisbees & Condoms - Get 'em while they're hot! on: June 01, 2012, 02:22:53 AM
can I still buy some of these condoms? 

THANKS!
1411  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin just a stupid game for bored nerds? on: June 01, 2012, 02:16:20 AM
Few extra grand in my pocket and a wealth of computer hardware knowledge obtained in the past year --> soooo stupid.

Get out before you get eaten alive.

you built some mediocre mining rigs and chatted with a few energy drink addicted college kids who are supported by the successes of their parents for the most part.

not impressed.


I built some mediocre mining rigs from scratch having never touched the inside of a computer before in my life.

I invested in precious metals (purchased with BTC) to add to my BTC investment.  Hence, I have created a small investment portfolio.

Because of BTC, I have now tasted the world's hottest pepper, have donated money to charity, have become more familiar with tax laws and other banking/financial legal jargon, have two Bitcoin condoms with which I can bang the incredibly hot girl I'm dating (after that, we can play naked Bitcoin ultimate frisbee), have ample heat during the long Midwest winter free of cost, have been paid for Bitcoin-related services and products, have conducted international business transactions in the middle of the night, and I'm basically guaranteed to be rich if Bitcoin really turns the mainstream corner.

Soooo stupid.

This.  This x100.  

Every single piece of this paragraph is perfect.

Hey you dumbfuck OP.....I took an 11,000 BTC loan, collaterlalized with my epic mining farm and purchased a large equity stake in a 47 year old, highly profitable business....which coincidentally yields 20-25% per year.  That was pretty stupid, I know.

Hey Joint, where can I get some of those condoms??  Not that I need them, my wife lets me bang her bareback.....I just want to display them, having paid with a stupid game for nerds.  
1412  Economy / Securities / Re: Now seeking investors for BitCorp Mining Company on: May 31, 2012, 10:01:39 PM
Dividends have been paid for May.

the rate was .015 BTC per share (formerly .15 BTC, prior to stock split) 

1413  Economy / Securities / Re: Now seeking investors for BitCorp Mining Company on: May 31, 2012, 09:44:57 PM
UPDATE

We have a good idea of what our May production will be, and all I can say is "wow". 

We are going to have gross proceeds of nearly 600 BTC, absolutely smashing our expectations.  We will get final numbers in the next week or so.

The stock split will occur tonight, and dividends will also be going out later today. 

If you have any concerns, please let us know. 

And PLEASE start trading on GLBSE.....we need to get some volume going.  Symbol is BTCMC. 
1414  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 7.5GH 3 Complete Rigs 5970's,5830's, 5870 on: May 31, 2012, 06:38:07 PM
Sale pending to gigavps, all 3 rigs for $2850 not including shipping.
Is that the final offer for the whole farm? Not parting anything out.

I made a mistake and actually do not have 7.5GH currently. I am not selling the 6950 which was factored in or the 5970 that will be going out for RMA.

Getting everything packaged and ready to go, Thanks gigavps for a quick sale!


Should have waited for more bids my man.  I would have gone 3K for all 3 rigs. 

The total deal is $3,175 in BTC. There was another 5970 I left out in my calculation.

Maybe next time yochdog!

PS -  I bid $3,176....
1415  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 7.5GH 3 Complete Rigs 5970's,5830's, 5870 on: May 31, 2012, 06:37:15 PM
Sale pending to gigavps, all 3 rigs for $2850 not including shipping.
Is that the final offer for the whole farm? Not parting anything out.

I made a mistake and actually do not have 7.5GH currently. I am not selling the 6950 which was factored in or the 5970 that will be going out for RMA.

Getting everything packaged and ready to go, Thanks gigavps for a quick sale!


Should have waited for more bids my man.  I would have gone 3K for all 3 rigs. 

The total deal is $3,175 in BTC. There was another 5970 I left out in my calculation.

Maybe next time yochdog!

Good lord, OP needs to get his numbers straight! 
1416  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 7.5GH 3 Complete Rigs 5970's,5830's, 5870 on: May 31, 2012, 06:29:33 PM
Sale pending to gigavps, all 3 rigs for $2850 not including shipping.
Is that the final offer for the whole farm? Not parting anything out.

I made a mistake and actually do not have 7.5GH currently. I am not selling the 6950 which was factored in or the 5970 that will be going out for RMA.

Getting everything packaged and ready to go, Thanks gigavps for a quick sale!


Should have waited for more bids my man.  I would have gone 3K for all 3 rigs. 
1417  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 7.5GH 3 Complete Rigs 5970's,5830's, 5870 on: May 31, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
I will give you 215 BTC for rig #1
1418  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitForce SC - full custom ASIC on: May 31, 2012, 04:21:51 AM

You're the one making the claim, so it's on you to prove your claim, not me.  I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, but given your track record of making "factual" statements based off of flawed second hand information, unless you can provide some proof to this claim, it's bunk.  Just because a friend of a friend told you it was law does not make it so.  


Ok here is one for you:

Does PayPal permit transactions for pre-sale items?

    Pre-sale items are advertised for sale before the seller has the items. Often, these items are sold before they are available to the general public. Or, the seller uses the funds from the sale to purchase the item that has already been sold.
    
    PayPal permits pre-sales on a limited basis, only if the seller guarantees delivery within 20 days from the date of purchase and clearly identifies the item as a pre-sale. PayPal may apply additional conditions, such as proof of the seller's ability to successfully deliver the product: supplier information, purchase invoices, postal information or proof of delivery.


https://www.paypal.com/helpcenter/main.jsp;jsessionid=5BF2PGnW8vHvJD7Nn7c6vZyVCZtqSwlyy9sv8QGJg5gXhh504Ly4!1268435979?locale=en_GB&_dyncharset=UTF-8&countrycode=GB&cmd=_help&serverInstance=9014&t=solutionTab&ft=browseTab&ps=solutionPanels&solutionId=163756&isSrch=Yes

100% Violation of Paypal policy, and BFL does take paypal.

I'm sure further searches on pre-sales will turn up relevant laws.  But I am done with the topic.  Stop trying to attack my credibility and I'll stop posting facts you don't want to hear.

Now this is interesting. 
1419  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Another 2 BTC bounty for CGminer and BFL singles! on: May 31, 2012, 03:06:58 AM
Actually you wanna hear crazy,  I found it using the search function in the cgminer thread. True story.  Grin Grin

nice.  I tried some word strings......could not find anything.
1420  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Another 2 BTC bounty for CGminer and BFL singles! on: May 31, 2012, 02:43:09 AM
Freebie.  The only reason I knew is I had to find out the same thing like two days ago. Grin

That is wild......how on earth did you figure it out?

thanks man, much appreciated. 
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