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1421  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 03, 2019, 08:18:40 AM
FreeBitco.in users & friends. SEMRush a marketing research firm published a study https://www.semrush.com/ebooks/onlinegambling/ about FreeBitcoin as the third biggest online casino on earth. Couldn't be achieved without support and love from you. As a Thank You we have decided to re-initiate Lambo Give Away round 2 and at the same time a promise to add more games and features for your use.

https://decrypt.co/11005/bitcoin-casino-third-largest-internet-gambling-site-in-the-world

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According to a study published last week by marketing data firm SEMrush, Bitcoin casino Freebitco.in is the third-largest Internet gambling platform in the world, in terms of global traffic over the last year, beating out popular brands such as Netkeiba and Hollywoodbets in monthly visits.

1422  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 03, 2019, 06:03:18 AM
Congratulations guys Freebitco is the 3rd largest online casino in the world!! Keep up the great work.

As for those calling it a ponzi...it's been around since 2013. That's proof enough that it isn't one.

Thanks.

FreeBitco.in users & friends. SEMRush a marketing research firm published a study https://www.semrush.com/ebooks/onlinegambling/ about FreeBitcoin as the third biggest online casino on earth. Couldn't be achieved without support and love from you. As a Thank You we have decided to re-initiate Lambo Give Away round 2 and at the same time a promise to add more games and features for your use.

https://decrypt.co/11005/bitcoin-casino-third-largest-internet-gambling-site-in-the-world

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According to a study published last week by marketing data firm SEMrush, Bitcoin casino Freebitco.in is the third-largest Internet gambling platform in the world, in terms of global traffic over the last year, beating out popular brands such as Netkeiba and Hollywoodbets in monthly visits.

1423  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: freebitco.in - is it even worth it? on: November 03, 2019, 04:47:39 AM
some times happen this ..

It happens a lot on devices that boot on multiple operating systems. That screws the local clock up.
1424  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: freebitco.in - is it even worth it? on: November 03, 2019, 04:24:18 AM
   
>>>>>>>in one hour will start a one hour
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to play an  Freeroll /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or 3Hours to play a freeroll?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/Yhk124L/image.png  Huh ? Huh ? Huh Huh Huh ? ? ? ... . . . .

Only if there is something wrong with the internal clock on your device. Refresh the page after one hour and you will be able to roll because it is controlled by a server end clock. Only the countdown timer on your browser uses your local clock.
1425  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 03, 2019, 04:15:24 AM
Incentivize the user to make their anonymous identity known.  I'm sure they have an online presence somewhere that has post history (this forum, maybe reddit, there are lots of forums out there that could serve this purpose).  An extra 5-20BTC would certainly be quite the incentivization and would put to rest claims that the pool is flooded with fake accounts.  Just the offer to incentivize would be a good faith effort to verify the account pool.  But it needs to be a SUBSTANTIAL effort.  Giving someone like $5-$20 worth sats or whatever it is currently, isnt an incentivization,  thats just a joke.

Why don't you answer the points I made in the post directly above yours? Is it because you can't? Is it because you're too thick to understand they prove you wrong?
1426  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 03, 2019, 01:34:13 AM
I would be amused to see the winner person (if it's even a real person, which we all know it ISNT) claim a Lambo just to be a jackwad.  Would be even more amusing if they were in Antarctica,  I wonder what the delivery fee on that would be haha.  The logistics on that would be an utter nightmare for TheQuack.

Thank you for demonstrating why what I just said in the other thread is true.

Great,  so uhm,  how did you verify fairness of the account pool?  What are the calculations for that?  LMFAO.  You monkeys are so gullible its pathetic.

Even if they did cheat and give themselves a bunch of free tickets to stack the odds in their favor, there was still millions of legitimate tickets in the pool. Nobody is holding a gun to people's head to make them purchase tickets. The winning user only had 185. It's not that difficult for an honest user to accumulate that many tickets. As long as there is one honest user in the pool, which is easy to verify because you can see if the published list contains the correct amount of entries you own, there is no way with 100% certainty that FreeBitco.in can guarantee that one of their own tickets is the winner.


You're wasting your time arguing with The Village Idiot. He's made the same bullshit claim against the weekly lottery. He's too thick to understand that creating fake tickets for that also increases the prize pool so what was saved when a fake account won would be balanced out by paying higher winnings when a real one won it making it a pointless exercise. The Lambo lottery has a fixed prize so in theory there would be an advantage to doing it but there is a very simple way to prove we didn't. Just compare the ticket file with the recent weekly lottery ticket files and you won't find it has been padded with fake accounts.


It's a waste of time arguing with a retard that is incapable of answering the points put to them that show they are wrong. You just completely ignore all logic and repeat your bullshit as if you hadn't been challenged.

1427  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 03, 2019, 01:07:42 AM
I'm still waiting for them to reply.

Lol yeah, like the other big Power Ball winner, he/she may need to stay calm for a while. With that amount converted to cash, one might have a good comfortable living off the saving interest in some countries.

Looking at their account I would be surprised if they don't respond soon. Maybe just busy because it's the weekend.
1428  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 03, 2019, 12:01:01 AM
185 isn't such small number of tickets, considering that there was almost 6 million tickets in total. I'm not good in maths, but it would interesting to see if someone would calculate his chance to win in %.
In weekly lottery usually there is between 200 and 300 million lottery tickets bought. And sometimes people with similar number of tickets like Lambo winner wins something - they had extremely little possibilty to win. While in Lambo lottery chance to win wasn't such small just because there was less tickets in total.
It would be interesting to hear, did winner already contacted Freebitco.in? What did chose - Lambo or money?

It's 100% coin chosen rather than the real Lambo and that's also what's the owner expected at the beginning. Winner doesn't risk to expose his identity and the casino owner wouldn't want to expose his identity. Winner will get tax issue, and the owner will have the risk of safety for his own (who know the winner might be a gang himself and just waited to meet up the rich casino boss). So inconclude it's 100% that the prize being made via bitcoin.

I'm still waiting for them to reply.
1429  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 02, 2019, 11:42:07 PM
Of course, it had a super high affect but for some reason you guys decline to do the math, the way it could be calculated has been explained a million times already

Because I'm still waiting for an answer to this question and the million explanations of other ways are all wrong.
Yeah, you can calculate how much of that profit is yours without lambo and how much of it is lambo. First of all, you restarted the lambo giveaway literally right after this one, so you acknowledge that lambo giveaway was super profitable, who would not even at least talk about it for a while and restart it after certain period if they are not sure about profitability? You know you made a ton of profit.

Now, I am not saying you made "x amount of bitcoin" that is impossible to calculate however it is quite possible to calculate that Lambo did helped you make enough money to both give 200k or lambo and still have some profits, that was the discussion here, you guys profited from this, it could be +1 bitcoin profit, it could be +1000 but in the end there was a profit for sure.

Now, you can decline to acknowledge the fact that you guys profited from it (why shouldn't you, this whole discussion is idiotic, you SHOULD make a profit, that is the whole purpose of running a business) and not acknowledge the fact that you did profited from it in public.

Answer my question. You just said, "Yeah, you can calculate how much of that profit is yours without lambo and how much of it is lambo.". So tell me the formula to use to calculate how much would have been wagered if we weren't giving away a Lambo.
1430  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 02, 2019, 06:21:50 AM
Rest all came from wagering must play some significant role in making the giveaway possible. Overall, the website is not in loss due to the giveaway. There is no reason for them to cheat the giveaway which is even not possible as well.

That's the point of running a promotion, to increase turnover. As I was explaining above it just isn't possible to measure how much of the increase in turnover during that period was due solely to the promotion. We think it went well which why we're doing it again, but it can't be quantified.
1431  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 02, 2019, 05:49:47 AM
I can confirm they can't manipulate the lottery draw. The drawing method is quite good and provably fair as they claim.

They don't need the House ID to win the prize. You will know it if you do some math.
I ticket cost 25k satoshi and with that 25000*5,954,089 = 1488.52225000 BTC

I'm not saying they are making that much profit(Number could be lying) but they can afford a Lambo giveaway easily with those stats.

The number isn't lying but we only sold 7554 tickets the rest were given away for wagering.

7554*0.00025000 = 1.88850000 BTC
1432  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 02, 2019, 12:55:04 AM
Great,  so uhm,  how did you verify fairness of the account pool?  What are the calculations for that?  LMFAO.  You monkeys are so gullible its pathetic.

Even if they did cheat and give themselves a bunch of free tickets to stack the odds in their favor, there was still millions of legitimate tickets in the pool. Nobody is holding a gun to people's head to make them purchase tickets. The winning user only had 185. It's not that difficult for an honest user to accumulate that many tickets. As long as there is one honest user in the pool, which is easy to verify because you can see if the published list contains the correct amount of entries you own, there is no way with 100% certainty that FreeBitco.in can guarantee that one of their own tickets is the winner.


You're wasting your time arguing with The Village Idiot. He's made the same bullshit claim against the weekly lottery. He's too thick to understand that creating fake tickets for that also increases the prize pool so what was saved when a fake account won would be balanced out by paying higher winnings when a real one won it making it a pointless exercise. The Lambo lottery has a fixed prize so in theory there would be an advantage to doing it but there is a very simple way to prove we didn't. Just compare the ticket file with the recent weekly lottery ticket files and you won't find it has been padded with fake accounts.
1433  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 02, 2019, 12:01:50 AM
CURRENT BITCOIN BLOCK: 601845
BITCOIN BLOCK FOR CLIENT SEED: 601857

Any clue why 601846 to 601856 were not chosen but 601857? I may answer: they were used but winner is not the house owned ID until 601857. Someone if you know how is the calculation, please check if 601846 to 601856 yield any winner please.

The most questionable things that look suspicious is the ticket list & block id used for the draw were published at the same time with winner ID announcement. At least they could post the list first and announce the block ID which is 1 or 2 days ahead before the drawing taking place. It's fair if this block number was published before the announcement of drawing and then the winner, but in this case it's not and it's big question lol. Any way, you should do that way next draw.

It's an integral part of what makes it provably fair. We put a tweet out in advance with a link to the ticket file that tells you which block in the future will be used for the server seed. You can then download that file BEFORE the draw happens so you can prove we didn't do what you just said.




Of course, it had a super high affect but for some reason you guys decline to do the math, the way it could be calculated has been explained a million times already

Because I'm still waiting for an answer to this question and the million explanations of other ways are all wrong.

OK. You tell me the formula I should use to determine how much of the 150 BTC wagered yesterday would not have been wagered if we weren't giving away a Lambo and I'll tell you how well the promo is doing.




You may be correct they should publish all data they used for drawing

The Village Idiot is never correct. We did publish everything you need to work out the winner yourself.

https://twitter.com/freebitco/status/1190070026612531202

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PROVABLY FAIR LOTTERY
SERVER SEED HASH FOR CURRENT ROUND
614b31c108dd30c335983826c64ea9a2bf258fc814d77c5a75d5e328bb1f12db
This lottery is provably fair. What that means is that there is no way the site can cheat you by picking a lottery winner who we favour. All winners are picked randomly and the method for picking the winners is described below.

At the beginning of each round, we generate a server seed for that round and show you the SHA256 hash of this seed.
When a lottery round has concluded, we make a list of all user id's and their lottery tickets and sort it in ascending order of the user id's.
We then use this list to assign ticket numbers for all tickets. For example if user id 1 has 10 tickets and user id 2 has 20 tickets, then user id 1 will have ticket numbers 0 to 9 and user id 2 will have ticket numbers from 10 to 29. This is done for all users.
Then the list containing the user id's, tickets held by each user and their ticket numbers is published in a text file. This file also contains the total number of tickets issued in the round and the server seed for that round.
A MD5 hash of this text file is calculated.
Then the current bitcoin block number is recorded and a block number that is 12 blocks into the future is decided on. The block hash of this future block is used as a "client seed" ie. a seed that we are not aware of when the list in step 4 has been published.
Then a tweet is made via our twitter account (https://twitter.com/freebitco) containing the link to the file generated in step 4, the MD5 hash of the file and the future bitcoin block number as determined in step 6. Since tweets cannot be edited, only deleted, this will provide a timestamp for when the list in step 4 was made, which can be compared to check that the bitcoin block determined in step 6 is in the future ie. we do not know the block hash of this block when the list is generated.
The winning ticket numbers will be calculated as described below:
A string (STRING1) is created - "[SERVER SEED]:[BLOCK HASH]:[WINNING POSITION]".
The SHA256 hash of STRING1 is calculated and the first 8 characters of this hash are taken (STRING2).
STRING2 is converted to a decimal which gives us a number between 0 and 4,294,967,295 (NUM1).
NUM1 is then multiplied by the (total number of tickets minus 1) and divided by 4,294,967,295 to get a number (NUM2) between 0 and the total number of tickets less 1.
NUM2 is then rounded off to the nearest whole number which is the winning ticket number.
HOW IS THE SYSTEM FAIR?

The system described above that is used for picking the winners is provably fair because it has multiple safeguards in place to ensure that winners are picked randomly and fairly.

We provide a SHA256 hash of the server seed when a lottery round starts. If we change the server seed at any time, the SHA256 hash of the new seed will not match the hash we provided earlier. After a round has ended and we provide the server seed that will be used to pick winners, the hash of the seed we provide can be checked against the hash we provided originally and both should match.
We use a future bitcoin block hash as the "client seed" ie. a seed that we do not know of. All bitcoin block hashes are unique and nobody knows what the block hash of a future block will be until the block has been mined.
We use twitter to publish the future bitcoin block number, the list of users and their ticket numbers and the MD5 hash of the user list. It provides a timestamp to check if the block hash that we use is indeed in the future. Since tweets cannot be edited, only deleted - if we delete the tweet after the future block has been mined and publish a new one, it would be easy to catch us cheating by comparing the timestamp of the tweet and that of the bitcoin block. The timestamp of the tweet should always be lesser than the time timestamp of the bitcoin block whose hash is used as the client seed.
We provide a MD5 hash of the text file containing the list of users and their ticket numbers. If even a single character in the text file is changed after the MD5 hash in the tweet is published, the MD5 hash of the edited file will not match the MD5 hash provided in the tweet.


1434  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 01, 2019, 07:48:59 AM
Has Wetsuit indicated yet, if he is going to do this again and if it was profitable or not? I guess it is not that simple to work out the profitability of a lucky draw like this.

Just a little suggestion from my side would be that he might have more lucky draws with smaller prices and also shorter waiting periods. Let's say a few XBox or Play stations or expensive phones or something on a regular basis?

He can also have one big prize like the Lambo if it was profitable, but I would much rather prefer one big prize and a lot smaller prices to make more people smile about this.  Wink  Tesla next?

The timer is running again as the next round to win the next Lambo has already started. As was discussed in the last few days in this thread it isn't possible to quantify how much extra was wagered because of the Lambo so it isn't possible to work out the profitability either. We did have a good 6 months and it's reasonable to assume the Lambo had a positive impact on that.
1435  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 01, 2019, 07:40:30 AM
I am sure he will go for the Bitcoins. Maintaining a Lambo will be difficult for a user with just 185 tickets.
I can't believe it is happening for real. People are winning Lambogini from a website that used to be a faucet a few years ago.

I am still looking for freebitco.in to implement something user can control while playing Multiple BTC. Randomising client seed isn't enough I want full control over that seed.

Use the programmer mode on DiceBot. https://bot.seuntjie.com/GettingStarted.aspx#programmer
1436  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 01, 2019, 07:00:49 AM
Congratulations are in order for the user that won the Lambo or the bitcoins.  Wink  I can confirm that it was not me who won it.  Sad Sad Sad

I hope this user will post something for us in this thread to give us some insight on who won this. Can the site owner share with us, if the owner contacted him and if he or she preferred to take the bitcoins or the car?

We have been waiting so long for this and curiosity is killing me. I know this is very sensitive information and people would not reveal their real identity, but please post something anonymous.  Wink

We've emailed them to ask if they want the Lambo or the Bitcoin. I'm waiting for a reply.



Looks are like some are still betting for that Lambo, and the round has resetted back to 180 days Cheesy

They're betting on the next Lambo.
1437  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 01, 2019, 06:25:33 AM
Congrats to the winner!

I see another countdown for 180 days. Didn't realize there's going to be another lambo giveaway!

We were waiting to see how successful it was before deciding whether to do it again or not.
1438  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 01, 2019, 05:13:58 AM
1439  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 01, 2019, 05:13:16 AM
1440  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: November 01, 2019, 03:04:49 AM
You people are so gullible its pathetic lol.

Nothing is as pathetic as simultaneously trolling this thread and also promoting the site to earn referral commissions from people gullible enough to think your shitbot dice script gives them some advantage.
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