Incorrect guess. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. I'll hazard a guess that the dev is no longer deleting posts here. It'll be scant comfort now but a flag was raised a few days ago: Topic: iBITS is a direct clone of Diggits, WARNING, dev is deleting POSTS (Read 436 times) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1138732.0Cheers Graham Edit: I guess he has an autodelete script running. |
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I tried to understand how coinmarketcap tooltip data is extracted from svg, but no luck there.
Browsing with Chrome/Chromium, navigate to an altcoin page, e.g. Franko and check the developer console messages. Might need to hit “reload”. Cheers Graham Edit: added reload suggestion |
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Node IP address changeBecause first page of thread is almost expired, i made a small site dedicated to fuguecoin. There are info, files, network hashrate & profit calculator. www.fuguecoin.euwow this coin still active?. node please. any exchange? 2. 5.9.56.229 176.9.26.47 or 95.24.44.228:50001 3. Not at present.
Cheers Graham
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Is that what I said?
Effectively, yes. Well.. XML-RDF, OIL/DAML etc. are not human readable.
Ah, you are working to an idiosyncratic definition of of the term “human readable” that I don't share. nm. Cheers Graham |
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That's right, the paper was written quickly and is not of high quality. It is not aiming to be scientifically rigorous.
So rewrite it to the appropriate quality. I think by now you might be in a position to acknowledge that stance is doing the project more harm than good. But it doesn't change the fact we know what we're doing as can be even seen from that not-well-written paper, or other of many things I wrote about tauchain ( www.idni.org/blog), or the working automated theorem prover I already wrote (github.com/naturalog/tauchain). So if you'll get deeper into the materials you'll see that it's a very serious project, and we definitely know what we're talking about and do fulfill our promises. If you still have doubts or something more solid to tell, please ask. You're inviting us to adopt the position that the relatively low quality of the white paper stands as testament to the fact that the team members know what they are doing? tl;dr it's just that you're misunderstood. Yeah, right. There are some unforced errors in your writing which suggest that this degree of confidence might be misplaced, e.g. “RDF family which are extremely human readable”. There are lots of qualities openly credited to RDF but “extremely human readable” isn't one of them. You might well hold a personal opinion in RDF's favour but that doesn't provide any evidential support for the claim. And if you're careless enough to allow that through, then who knows what other misconceptions are perhaps running rife through the unclearly-written text. “So if you'll get deeper into the materials” <- replay that back at leisure, see if it'd work for you. It's a very familiar (and woefully misconceived) tactic to shift responsibility to the reader. It's the team's responsibility to articulate the project, leaving it as an exercise for the reader will not suffice. My father taught me: “If a man doesn't understand, it’s because he hasn’t been told properly”. I've found it a solid principle to observe if you're trying to work with people to get things done. Serious is as serious does. Making overweening claims for the tech should be avoided for two reasons: i) they're unnecessary and ii) they undermine the effort. Cheers Graham |
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This thread doesn't allow open discussion. Guess it's a red flag.
You failed to address the main charge: “cynical and exploitative minimalist reworking”, feel free to have a shot. (Being gratuitously offensive isn't the same as engaging in a discussion, the former is nowhere near as satisfying as you will eventually realise ... oh, and playground insults don't have quite the impact on adults as you seem to think.) Cheers Graham |
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FTR. Could have been just ineptitude but deleting the post suggests something to hide. Does not reflect well on Yobit and Bittrex, apparently they will happily list any old rubbish. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. This is a cynical and exploitative minimalist reworking of Diggits. The greedy little scrote behind this casual con doesn't even bother to make an effort, it's apparently so easy to reel in the punters. Apologies to those who have already gambled and lost on this play, all I can suggest is that you deepen your research next time. The con is revealed by a a misplaced source code file containing a unique marker, an edit failure made by the RubyCoin dev in omitting to correct a reference to ReddCoin: case mBTC: return QString("mRDD");The error has been preserved in blissful ignorance by a couple of clueless devs, allowing it to stand as mute evidence of a slapdash copynpasta effort giving the lie to any promises made in the ANN and, basically, giving the game away entirely. Here's the github search string that reveals the half-dozen instances where the line of code appears: https://github.com/search?q=case+mBTC%3A+return+QString%28%22mRDD%22%29%3B&type=CodeAnd here's the detailed evidence... iBITShttps://github.com/ibitsteam/ibits-src/blob/master/src/bitcoinunits.cpp#L42QString BitcoinUnits::name(int unit)
{
switch(unit)
{
case BTC: return QString("iBIT");
case mBTC: return QString("mRDD"); <- CLANG! CLANG! CLANG!
case uBTC: return QString::fromUtf8("μiBIT");
default: return QString("???");
}
}
QString BitcoinUnits::name(int unit)
{
switch(unit)
{
case BTC: return QString("DIGS");
case mBTC: return QString("mRDD"); <- CLANG! CLANG! CLANG!
case uBTC: return QString::fromUtf8("μDIGS");
default: return QString("???");
}
}
It makes a compelling argument to view the iBITS dev and the Diggits dev as one and the same person. I am sorry for your loss. Cheers Graham Cheers Graham |
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Thank you, I am obliged to you. (Brings my total to 2425 altcoins launched/announced thus far). Cheers Graham |
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just quoting this for later reference...
Yes, it's a coin-killer of a post, a splendid advertisement for the dev's teenage immaturity and a vivid testament to his amateurism. He spent all that time and effort constructing a “riposte” that he believed would be offensive but instead it paints a very eloquent picture of his own personal shortcomings and leaves no-one in any doubt about his inability to rise above them. Cheers Graham |
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Paladincoin and Budhacoin are both fake coins
Thank you. Just saw your response. I'd deleted my post after I found the info I needed on map of coins. Cheers Graham |
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Those that adapt to the changing times and environment will survive.
Indeed so. And it’s always later than you think. Jobs that I might have applied for as a young adult but which have basically vanished since: boilerman, draughtsman, filing clerk. Obviously, there are other tech-specific jobs that once were more numerous but now are scarce: farrier, wheelwright, etc. but I'm thinking of common jobs that I'd typically see in the local newspaper classifieds.  image from http://www.aviationarchive.org.uk/Gpages/html/G1649.htmlDue to the labour-intensive nature of the job, automation gains were huge, I'd bet that just a single CAD operator can do all the work of the entire staff shown above. These are jobs that disappeared quite early on in my working lifetime. In my mid-teens I decided I wanted to be an artist, my parents were horrified at the prospect and put me under a lot of pressure to train as a draughtsman. I entertained the idea for a while, then the realisation dawned that I'd basically be spending the rest of my life drawing toilet seats for a living. But I needn't have worried, had I chosen to make a career as a draughtsman, it'd have been a mercifully short one, made redundant by a plotter. And so it continues ... http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdfTHE FUTURE OF EMPLOYMENT: HOW SUSCEPTIBLE ARE JOBS TO COMPUTERISATION? Carl Benedikt Frey and Michael A. Osborne, September 17, 2013 We examine how susceptible jobs are to computerisation. To assess this, we begin by implementing a novel methodology to estimate the probability of computerisation for 702 detailed occupations, using a Gaussian process classifier.
Based on these estimates, we examine expected impacts of future computerisation on US labour market outcomes, with the primary objective of analysing the number of jobs at risk and the relationship between an occupation’s probability of computerisation, wages and educational attainment.
According to our estimates, about 47 percent of total US employment is at risk. We further provide evidence that wages and educational attainment exhibit a strong negative relationship with an occupation’s probability of computerisation.
We’re now living on the steep bit of the exponential curve and change is happening even faster. The well-staffed drafting office of the 50s was pretty much extinct by the 1980s in terms of vacancies in the classifieds. What are the odds that the job of “web site designer” will have all but vanished by, ooh say 2045? 2030? 2025? That's assuming it's not basically just an anachronism right now, given the front-end / back-end distinction that is apparently beginning to dominate thinking. Whatever you think about cryptocurrency, it’s fairly clear now that the idea is here to stay, for reasons we have yet to fully understand and to fulfil a purpose that we cannot yet clearly discern. Cheers Graham Edit: added image credit |
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It seems to be the case that there are some genuine semantics pertinent to the provenance. Looks like I need to add a “cloneparent” relation to the DOACC ontology ( plain OWL (in github repos) or fancy HTML (on Minkiz *). I somehow managed to miss ASAPcoin and have not yet added Tavos to the DOACC graph but here's a SPARQL query that lists the name and symbol of each DOACC entry listed as using the protocol named “cryptonote”. PREFIX skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#>
PREFIX doacc: <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc#>
SELECT ?node ?sym ?lab WHERE
{?prot skos:prefLabel "cryptonote"@en .
?node doacc:protocol ?prot .
?node skos:prefLabel ?lab .
?node doacc:symbol ?sym
} ORDER BY ?lab
Results (output format edited for inclusion here). Hyperlinks are to Minkiz' own version of a Linked Open Data browser * For convenience, here's a canned version of the query * that renders the results as HTML. As regards collating features, I'm rather impressed with the polish of the DigitalNote GUI wallet, very promising indeed. Introducing a slider bar for degree of anonymity solves one very important but much under-appreciated issue - the fact that users with only a shallow model will naturally but mistakenly treat anonymity as a binary state when the reality is that it is a ratio scale of the brute force required to crack the crypto. A slider bar acts to help prevent such a misperception occurring in the first place. Nice work. * self-signed SSL cert, CA cert, DYR: archive.orgCheers Graham Edit: added CAcert note |
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It's probably discussed in detail elsewhere but in Weekly Update #151, SK discusses Peercoin transaction fees and indicates Peercoin's imminent plans: For the next release of peercoin, the output value can also be 0 to accommodate data transactions
Next release of Peercoin will include data transactions. All together now ... “You don’t need a weatherman To know which way the wind blows”Cheers, Graham |
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Added to new list: CitiCoin(CITI)
Is there a URL with details? Cheers Graham |
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Did you have any further thoughts on any possible plans of action to move beecoin forward?
No, that was pretty much my last shot, I'm afraid. I have to acknowledge the lack of interest implicit in the muted response and accept that it's time I turned my attention elsewhere. My relatively short involvement with Beecoin2 has nevertheless enabled me to expand my understanding of altcoin logistics and has provided a valuable learning opportunity for which I'm grateful. Cheers Graham |
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A short report on progressOrganisational structureConsensusThe functioning of VCoin as a cryptocurrency requires two different forms of consensus. One is the cryptographic consensus enforced by the p2p application; the other is the social consensus that is created by those who hold coins and/or run nodes. In terms of raison d’ętre, the social consensus must first exist in order for the cryptographic consensus to have any semantic meaning. All the machine “knows” is whether the sequence of 64 bytes at this memory location is identical to the sequence of 64 bytes at that memory location. The rest, as they say, is left to the reader’s imagination. The social consensus is by far the more important. In addition to grounding the semantics of the blockchain, it's the wellspring of the much-vaunted “network effect” --- which is really just a weak way of saying “backed by people”. The network effect is either i) monolithic --- more users on the network as a whole result in each one of them deriving more value as each additional user represents one more peer to interact with or ii) particularised --- more users of one type make the network more attractive for users of a different but complementary type, such as consumers and merchants. Direction by social consensus replaces control by central authority : “Unlike traditional currencies such as dollars, bitcoins are issued and managed without any central authority whatsoever: there is no government, company, or bank in charge of Bitcoin.” - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/When it comes to p2p apps, the bottom line is that as soon as the source code is publicly released, no-one is ”in charge” of anything. The witticism “herding cats” doesn’t even come in to it; people are completely free to do as they like: run a node, not run a node; hold coins, don't hold coins; set up a foundation, a faucet, a business, promote the coin, fud the coin, set up webwallets, offer an alternative wallet design, provide off-chain features, pay to spam the blockchain, pay to clean up the blockchain, generously contribute to a faucet, mischevously drain a faucet dry. The fact that there is no-one in charge is significant to US financial regulators. A couple of years ago FinCEN made it unambiguously clear ... A final type of convertible virtual currency activity involves a de-centralized convertible virtual currency (1) that has no central repository and no single administrator, and (2) that persons may obtain by their own computing or manufacturing effort.
So, “official” this and “official” that are meaningless in the context of a cryptocurrency because no-one has the authority to stamp anything “official”. Or rather, anyone and everyone has the opportunity to stamp anything they want as “official” or make a claim to be “the official dev” but it carries no inherent authority, only that which it itself engenders. How does anything ever get done?The thing is, a cryptocurrency is a discrete Open Source project in its own right and in Open Source projects, things just sort of get done. Or not. The psycho-social aspects are currently not terribly-well understood in a number of key areas, one of which is the motivation of contributors. In the case of altcoins, it seems that the creation of the altcoin's peer2peer network also establishes a social consensus which behaves as a prototypal form of “Teal” organisation as described in Frederic Laloux’ Reinventing organisations. The vast majority of Laloux’ thesis can be ignored as irrelevant, the real interest is in how the closely the core Teal Organisation principles correspond to those of an altcoin community. In the example below, strikethrough denotes a concept that has no meaning in the context of an altcoin, the remainder are relevant and it’s hard to deny their correspondence: Teal SELF MANAGEMENT practices - self organizing teams
coaches w/o P&L responsibility when needed- almost no staff functions
- coordination and meetings ad hoc when needs arise
- radically simplified project management
- minimum plans & budgets
- fluid and granular roles
- decision making fully decentralized (advice process)
- transparent real time information sharing incl,. financials
anybody can spend any amount of money provided advice process is respectedformal multi-step conflict resolution processfocus on Team performance, peer-based process for individual appraisalsself-set salaries with peer calibration, no bonus, profit sharing
Teal WHOLENESS practices self-decorated warm spaces without status markers- clear values translated into explicit ground rules, ongoing values discussion
quiet room, meditation practices, team supervision, peer coachingstorytelling practices to support self-disclosure and community building- absence of job titles and descriptions to allow selfhood to shape roles
- honest discussion about individual time commitments
regular time devoted to address conflicts- specific meeting practices keep ego at check
- distributed initiatives taking
recruitment interviews by future colleagues, focus on fit with organization- personal freedom for training, focus on culture-building
- personal inquiry into one‘s learning journey and calling
caring support to turn dismissal into a learning opportunity
Teal EVOLUTIONARY PURPOSE practices - organization seen as a living entity with its own evolutionary purpose
- strategy emerges organically from collective intelligence of self-managing employees
- decision making by listening to organization‘s purpose (everyone, large group, meditations…)
- concept of competition irrelevant (embraced to pursue purpose)
- growth and market share only important in as much they help achieve purpose
- profit as lagging indicator: will come naturally when doing the right thing
- inside out marketing: offer is defined by purpose
- “sense and respond” planning/budgeting/controlling
- no or radically simplified budgets, no tracking of variance; no targets
- “change management” no longer relevant as organization constantly adapts from within
- suppliers chosen by fit with purpose
- total transparency invites outsiders to make suggestions to better bring about purpose
- conscious sensing of what mood would serve best
The evolutionary purpose practices are a remarkably close description of the characteristics of an Open Source altcoin project. In essence, altcoins are de facto Teal Organisations created as a natural consequence of the distributed nature of the p2p app. Despite the New Waviness, the broad-brush description of a Teal Organisation never quite loses sight of its utilitarian purpose: doing things better, more effectively, with a more complex set of values. That’s not a bad philosophy for an experimental vehicle like an altcoin to adopt. Cheers Graham
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Elsewhere on the net: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-21/a-tech-startup-is-trying-to-catalogue-every-piece-of-art-on-the-marketIs it possible to digitize and verify every art object ever made? Verisart, a new site co-founded by Robert Norton, previously chief executive officer of two online art-commerce sites, Saatchi Online and Sedition, is going to try.
The digital startup hopes to chronicle original artworks, prints, multiples, and books by using block chain, thereby assigning each object a (hopefully) unassailable certificate of authenticity. Each object’s provenance, in turn, is created step-by-step by its owners, who add their e-mail addresses to an object’s data when they purchase one. In the project’s second phase, down the road, Norton plans to catalogue older artwork by extending the verification service to online sites and artists’ estates. Eventually, he hopes to work with appraisers and insurers to add works that have already been validated.
We’re in the process of doing something similar, on a less ambitious scale. We want to use the notary service to publish semantic web URIs that resolve to RDF Graphs carrying the metadata for, in our case, edition data and provenance of Minkiz cool prints:  Cheers Graham |
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Interesting (for future reference)
Elements is itself a developer sidechain: “The first release is Elements Alpha, a developer sidechain and network that introduces several new technologies on a sidechain, pegged to Bitcoin’s testnet.” https://github.com/ElementsProject/elementsproject.github.ioCheers Graham |
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github is incomplete
Updates to the GitHub repo and a new one added: https://github.com/VersaCryptoBlockchainOAUTH
Updated 3 hours ago
VersaCurrency
Updated 5 days ago
But I'm at a complete loss for producing any plausible explanation for the unrestrained exuberance of: https://github.com/hhjarppfh?tab=repositoriesevery last one is (on casual inspection, at least) a clone of Versa. Curiouser and curiouser. Cheers Graham |
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