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1441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi,BCNext = TPTB_need_war? on: April 07, 2016, 04:43:06 AM
No "intelligent" person is going to crowdfund someone who posts their genitals on the internet.

I'd crowdfund a Jenna Jameson android, but as far as a coin, why would I care what the person posts as long as the project can achieve its goals and they aren't the same as a dozen or so other projects out there? Yes, all things being equal, I would crowdfund the project with the developer who doesn't post his junk on forums, but all things aren't equal, so as long as his behavior doesn't get him locked up or otherwise destroy the project's chances for survival, what do I care?

No "intelligent" person is going to crowdfund someone who posts their genitals on the internet.

That's not true. You obviously don't understand marketing. Getting attention is 90% of the task. TPTB posting his genitals was in the context of his ongoing public disclosure of his illness, so it wasn't exactly a bolt from the blue. It shows me TPTB knows how to play the 'game'



Then again, there are probably certain attitudes that would not find chemistry with me.

Like people who find it disgusting that you post your genitals online?  I lost all respect for you after that, and I'm seriously questioning your sanity.  Who wants to associate with that type of filth?
1442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AMP - The Currency That Powers Your Attention On Synereo on: April 06, 2016, 08:57:21 PM
Still cant understand why AMP is in top10 coinmarketcap ?!

Go back to page one and read the entire thread.
1443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi,BCNext = TPTB_need_war? on: April 06, 2016, 04:37:03 PM
Your drawing [...] does have an extreme resemblance to Mario / Wario...

How so? Please explain why my drawing resembles Mario or Wario? And make sure the reasons you give are not in any other faces drawn on the internet.

Note you did not state this was your opinion. Rather you stated this as if it is a fact, so I am asking to you justify your accusation.

...

There is nothing in my drawing which in your opinion is an original idea  Huh

You're right.  It is my opinion just like it's your opinion that Synereo is based on a flawed model.  No, I don't think there is a whole lot in your drawing which is "original".  It looks like you put headphones on Wario.

Normally I refrain from replying in threads where there is obviously being trolled.
I've read some of your posts and you are (seem like) an intelligent guy, why do you keep responding to obvious trolling?

I was going to ignore the thread, but because I will now have a public image due to the upcoming crowdfund, I need to deal with false accusations because I presume of the potential contributors will find their way over to this forum (since I link to it).

I loathe the prospect of having a public image, but I guess it is necessary for me to achieve my goal.

You now have a "public image", because you posted your crotch on the world wide web.  Congratulations on being a total pervert.  That's not my opinion either.  It's a fact.

I understand, but you might underestimate the intelligence of people who might contribute in the crowdfund.

No "intelligent" person is going to crowdfund someone who posts their genitals on the internet.
1444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi,BCNext = TPTB_need_war? on: April 06, 2016, 08:35:02 AM
The plaintiff rests.

Are you seriously sticking with the claim that no one can use a nose, eyeballs, eyebrows, and a moustache in a logo, because Nintendo used those features in one of their game characters  Huh

My logo sketch does not resemble Wario which has a hat. The features are all different.

By your logic, Nintendo is violating Paramount Pictures's intellectual property and Saddam Hussein's likeness:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluto

Your drawing doesn't look like Bluto, but it does have an extreme resemblance to Mario / Wario.  Granted, you probably aren't at risk of a trademark infringement lawsuit (yet), but I'm not giving you any points on creativity.
1445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ATTENTION ECONOMY {data} on: April 06, 2016, 08:32:34 AM
What is the point of this thread?  Are you attempting to highlight all the different projects that are working to revolutionize social media using blockchain tech?
1446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AMP - The Currency That Powers Your Attention On Synereo on: April 06, 2016, 03:49:00 AM


Is anyone else working on a clone of this project?




I started $DAO which is going to use Synereo's specialK technology integrated with Ethereum 2.0 technology.

It only took a 0.001% premine unlike these people with their 20% premine. There are currently 3 other developers and many other crowdfunding participants involved in $DAO. We are looking to pay out bounties and run a second crowdfunding campaign. All tech that works with $DAO should be easily portable to work with $AMP on the Synereo network.




1447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 06, 2016, 03:32:22 AM
AMP tokens for vaporware

You've got about two more weeks to use that lame retort before people will start calling you a blatant liar.

No adoption and no use case is vaporware.

Any one can write some code and do a testnet demonstration and claim they have created something. GitHub is littered with code that no one uses.

We'll soon see.
1448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi,BCNext = TPTB_need_war? on: April 06, 2016, 03:29:04 AM
All Shelby has released is a drawing that puts him on track to be sued by Nintendo for trademark infringement.



A copyright owner can’t prove infringement by pointing to features of his work that are found in the defendant’s work as well but that are so rudimentary, commonplace, standard, or unavoidable that they do not serve to distinguish one work within a class of works from another.

The "stock" idea of working class hero, gaining abilities from powerups, and South European origin are however all usable.

Features of above logo:

✓ Wavy moustache
✓ Pointed eyebrows
✓ Eyes with misaligned pupils
✓ Semi-long nose
✓ Hair above a music headphone

I presume DecentralizeEconomics is alleging infringement on Wario?



✓ Jagged moustache
✓ Curved eyebrows
✓ Eyes with aligned pupils
✓ Stubbed nose
✓ Hair on the sides under a hat

The plaintiff rests.
1449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 06, 2016, 03:28:31 AM
AMP tokens for vaporware

You've got about two more weeks to use that lame retort before people will start calling you a blatant liar.
1450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 05, 2016, 09:53:27 PM
So the users have the ideological motivation, but when it comes down to it, they prioritize what is convenient, efficient, and serves real needs they have, such as contacting mom and cousins on Facebook. That is the hurdle the the irrelevant income offer doesn't solve.

This is where we differ.  You think people will perceive the income as irrelevant where as I do not.  Even if they earn enough money to purchase a few meals out a year,

Seriously I've learned the hard way several times in my life with failed projects that humans prioritize their important desires and needs. That income is absolutely irrelevant and worse yet is an insult to many people (which is why ChangeTip must die).


Well, I think calling it an insult is a little severe.  Most people would welcome any money they could earn off their online participation.


I think they will be motivated to join and retake control of their personal online presence.  Most people do not solely rely on Facebook to keep in close contact with their family members.  It is more of a causal liaison point for posting pictures and such.  Imo, changing over to another social network isn't that big of a hurdle for most users, especially when they will be transferring their information not only to a social network, but a social sharing platform which will host not only Synereo, the social network, but also a plethora of other online social software.

Afaics, Facebook is for sharing/interaction/feed amongst strangers, friends and family, with more emphasis on the first two than family.

If the "other online social software" has some compelling features, then they may adopt. I have not yet seen a list of these planned features and an ETA on their implementation.


The technology stack which Synereo utilizes and is built upon is an open source platform which any other type of social interaction software can use and build off of the existing softwares' userbase.


Users have a finite cognitive and time resource which they allocate to the highest priorities in their lives.

How do you explain MySpace losing market share to Facebook?

MySpace was mired into a static page model and failed to innovate and most especially around the network effects of feeds, social updates, apps and games (which is precisely what I realized is the niche I need to go after to challenge Facebook in the long-term but the cases which require a decentralized protocol):

http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/28/sean-parker-on-why-myspace-lost-to-facebook/
https://www.quora.com/What-could-MySpace-have-done-differently-to-avoid-losing-to-Facebook/answer/Edward-King <--- read this
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2011/01/14/why-facebook-beat-myspace/

Facebook is in a similar but worse situation as MySpace was back then.  Not only does Facebook not see the need to adapt to a decentralized setup, but they are in fact, structured in such a corporate fashion that they are unable to do so.  Such a decentralized arrangement would cause massive, if not complete, revenue losses for any centralized social network, which would cause the entire corporation to go bankrupt and cease to be.
1451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi,BCNext = TPTB_need_war? on: April 05, 2016, 09:26:42 PM
You're wrong.  Satoshi and BCNext both released working and revolutionary cryptocurrencies.  All Shelby has released is a drawing that puts him on track to be sued by Nintendo for trademark infringement.
1452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 05, 2016, 05:38:29 AM
TPTB, using a social network doesn't equate to "working".  You are miscorrelating the two.  You are correct in the fact that people share for much more valuable reason than ad revenue.  That fact leads me to ask, "Wouldn't you rather use a social network which rewarded you for your participation instead of a centralized entity?"

I am not "miscorrelating" any thing here. Earning miniscule revenue for sharing isn't a compelling feature.


I think you are underestimating the compellingness of that feature.  People on social networks constantly "share, like, pin" things, events, artists, etc with their friends.  Who wouldn't prefer to earn revenue for their activity, regardless of how minuscule, instead of it going towards a centralized corporation like Facebook or Twitter?  Eventually over time, I imagine that it will add up to more than you think.

You apparently don't understand marketing. Let me try to teach.

The key motivation you are tapping into is the ideological desire to prevent that revenue from going to the centralized behemoth which then abuses the best interests of the users— not the irrelevant individual income. People are not going to be swayed as to whether to share or not share based on the offer of that miniscule income, and in fact it will be insulting to many.

So the users have the ideological motivation, but when it comes down to it, they prioritize what is convenient, efficient, and serves real needs they have, such as contacting mom and cousins on Facebook. That is the hurdle the the irrelevant income offer doesn't solve.


This is where we differ.  You think people will perceive the income as irrelevant where as I do not.  Even if they earn enough money to purchase a few meals out a year, I think they will be motivated to join and retake control of their personal online presence.  Most people do not solely rely on Facebook to keep in close contact with their family members.  It is more of a causal liaison point for posting pictures and such.  Imo, changing over to another social network isn't that big of a hurdle for most users, especially when they will be transferring their information not only to a social network, but a social sharing platform which will host not only Synereo, the social network, but also a plethora of other online social software.


I haven't seen any compelling feature or niche articulated for Synereo. I've read a 50+ page Synereo white paper of technobabble about process calculi.

You don't think that at the very least being free to speak your mind without Facebook / Twitter censors is a compelling feature?

I think it is ideologically perking, but it is not a feature that users will give up their existing contacts and vested inertia in Facebook for.

Users have a finite cognitive and time resource which they allocate to the highest priorities in their lives.

How do you explain MySpace losing market share to Facebook?
1453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM ALERT] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: April 05, 2016, 05:27:11 AM
Self-mod topic - check
Scammers don't like any critics and are never open to a free discussion because they are afraid of their scam will get exposed. Also, the dev removed my message where I was requesting screenshots.

Truth right here.
1454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 05, 2016, 03:38:55 AM
TPTB, using a social network doesn't equate to "working".  You are miscorrelating the two.  You are correct in the fact that people share for much more valuable reason than ad revenue.  That fact leads me to ask, "Wouldn't you rather use a social network which rewarded you for your participation instead of a centralized entity?"

I am not "miscorrelating" any thing here. Earning miniscule revenue for sharing isn't a compelling feature.


I think you are underestimating the compellingness of that feature.  People on social networks constantly "share, like, pin" things, events, artists, etc with their friends.  Who wouldn't prefer to earn revenue for their activity, regardless of how minuscule, instead of it going towards a centralized corporation like Facebook or Twitter?  Eventually over time, I imagine that it will add up to more than you think.


I haven't seen any compelling feature or niche articulated for Synereo. I've read a 50+ page Synereo white paper of technobabble about process calculi.


You don't think that at the very least being free to speak your mind without Facebook / Twitter censors is a compelling feature?
1455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 04, 2016, 09:27:27 PM
Let's suppose that one day Synereo provide exactly the same as facebook exept that users get rewarded by using the social network

I already documented the economics of that. Ad revenue would never pay enough to motivate users to share. They share for much more valuable reasons. No one is going to work for $1 to $10 per day. Ads in developing countries pay less, because people spend less.
Get back when you have a research not your own understandings. But for now GTFO keep envying the success of Synereo it makes me laugh.

TPTB, using a social network doesn't equate to "working".  You are miscorrelating the two.  You are correct in the fact that people share for much more valuable reason than ad revenue.  That fact leads me to ask, "Wouldn't you rather use a social network which rewarded you for your participation instead of a centralized entity?"

(without speaking about huge privacy issues in centralised social networks), isn't that enough for people to switch to Synereo ?

No. That is what the past experiments of many decentralized attempts have shown.
It's so jerk to think if one failed you shouldn't even try. Actually every new attempt brings new experience and makes it better. So something will replace Facebook eventually just like Facebook did to MySpace.

Exactly.  Nothing lasts forever.  Trends change, businesses change, and so do social networks.
1456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 04, 2016, 06:47:24 AM
Never heard of this coin but I'm still 99% sure it's just another shitcoin.

Agreed. You'll find links to my analysis in the other Synereo thread.

Why Just 99% sure?  Why aren't you 100% sure?

I am not even 100% sure I will live until tomorrow.

Seriously I know software development. I know how to detect which projects are capable. Synereo doesn't have the chops. I listened to their Hangouts and I studied the technology. I am quite confident this is just a scheme to sell a token to fund the math delusions of Greg Meredith.

I already explained they the economics they are proposing for a business model make no sense.

Well, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it, but I don't agree with it.  There are quite a few people who also don't agree with it.  Imo, Synereo is a thousand times better than the centralized alternatives like Facebook and Twitter, and Synereo's business model makes much more sense than theirs.  I respect your intelligence, but you aren't the only "genius level" person on this forum.
1457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo - Earn Money Using Social Media on: April 04, 2016, 06:39:35 AM
Synereo is a vaporware P&D so keep that in mind

Synereo's beta will be released in a few weeks.
1458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo on: April 04, 2016, 06:34:13 AM
Never heard of this coin but I'm still 99% sure it's just another shitcoin.

Agreed. You'll find links to my analysis in the other Synereo thread.

Why Just 99% sure?  Why aren't you 100% sure?
1459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: April 03, 2016, 06:27:29 PM
I think Dor, the CEO of Synereo, has proven his character and moral fiber to us by his actions.  It is nice to know that there are still people who do the right thing regardless of the monetary consequences.  I hope Ohad compensates Dor for his losses.  We all are fortunate that it was Dor who purchased the mass majority of the stolen tokens.
1460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Synereo - Earn Money Using Social Media on: April 03, 2016, 06:12:40 PM
I'm confuse about the wallets Smiley i can't even find how to store Synereo in my hard drive.
Can you please explain a little further here, I saw a thread about Synereo. i understand its just platform but you have a total of about 1 Billion AMPs?  I'm just too newbie here.  Grin

AMPs are currently stored on the Bitcoin blockchain utilizing the Omni protocol layer.  Use Omniwallet or Omnicore to store your AMP tokens.  Once the Synereo network goes live in a couple weeks, AMPs will have their own blockchain.
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