Such an influential payment system that accepts cryptocurrency and gives complete freedom of action with its funds - what could be better?
Does it give complete freedom of action with the funds though? The Trezor article you've quoted tells me the opposite: "The fact that this clause remains in their policy suggests that they intend to limit users to use only their platform for cryptocurrency, stifling competition and preventing users from ever withdrawing their cryptocurrency to the safety of a wallet they control the keys to."I don't think PP will ever allow their customers to fully control funds tbh. This is not something massive corporations will ever support - it's more of a wet dream of ours. Even AtomicDEX, an exchange that used to be decentralized, is going to implement KYC and AML regulatory procedures. |
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Congrats for the achievement. Feels great, huh?  I've many times admired you for trying your best to not only understand as much stuff as possible but to also be a memorable member of the forum coming up with their own opinions while listening to others' as well. Each of us here fits a little piece of an entire, very interesting puzzle. Good job!  |
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While the list of possible ways to use Bitcoin has now grown considerably with PayPal's acceptance, I don't see it as a big momentum. A company like PayPal or Revolut that supposedly lets you store crypto but really doesn't isn't helping with our growth. A currency you can only deposit but never really withdraw is imo a false currency. The virtual version of an already virtual crypto. You should be able to move it the way you like, exactly like you're allowed to move USD from your bank to PP and vice versa.
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- It is easier(and legal in some countries) to avoid taxes of your bitcoin gains buying stuff with bitcoin. You could buy expensive stuff such as airline tickets with bitcoin/paypal to dump a big stash of btc without any taxes.
From a legal POV, I don't think it's a very good move to avoid taxes this way. In my country at least, it's been mentioned over and over that the purchase of digital/physical goods using BTC still counts as a taxable action if your profit has been used to pay for it. |
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Many institutions and platforms will turn in favor of Bitcoin because they realized attacking it is in vain. But this is exactly what should convince us not to use their platforms anymore.
Providing BTC through PP will be a big convenience for many. A lot of people will think of how easy it now became to purchase and sell BTC thanks to PP - but it's like storing your wallet in some stranger's purse at all times. A day could come when the stranger might not want to give you your wallet back anymore.
It's just a bunch of nonsense that unfortunately works. People prefer storing money in someone else's wallet when they have the completely free option to store it in their own.
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Incerc sa inteleg la ce te referi, insa nu cred ca prea reusesc.. din ce spui acum, "roll over sau under" imi spune ca tu de fapt nu minezi, ci incerci sa iti multiplici monedele prin gambling (pariuri online). Corect? Minatul si jocurile online sunt doua lucruri complet diferite. Nu am auzit pana acum sa "minezi" o moneda jucandu-te dice online. Daca puteam si aveam sume asa mari de bani puteam sa minez la 200 de tron pariat 1 DICE. Dar eu nu am atatia bani. Asa ca intrebarea mea este pot sa minez Fraciune de DICE? Eu acolo ma tot joc si imi dau astia sub 1 DICE adica 0,3 ,0,4 DICE.
Atata vreau sa stiu.
Asta tine complet de site-ul pe care tu pariezi, nu cred ca am cum sa iti ofer un raspuns concret - mai ales daca nu am nicio idee pe ce site joci. Daca site-ul iti permite sa minezi fractiuni, atunci se poate. Tine strict de posibilitatile oferite de site. |
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Buna, Ioana! Cu scuzele de rigoare, am sa raspund eu dupa 16 zile cu speranta ca inca iti va fi de ajutor. cateva monede cumparate in 2016, vandute in 2017 si de atunci ma tot gandesc sa investesc in Bitcoin, acumulez informatii, ma documentez si invat.
Sugerez sa te documentezi si sa inveti si in continuare. Este o sfera noua in care apar zilnic noi informatii, ceea ce inseamna ca ai mereu ceva nou de invatat. Eu am aproximativ 7 ani de cand sunt aici si inca nu stiu probabil nici macar 50% din tot domeniul acesta. Acest lucru il face si foarte interesant - niciodata nu te plictisesti. Am ramas surprinsa cand am vazut ca avem in Romania o comunitate crypto, si m-am bucurat ca in sfarsit pot intreba pe cineva real despre nelamuririle pe care le am.
Din pacate, comunitatea noastra nu este foarte activa pe forum. Insa chiar nu ar fi deloc rau daca ai incepe si tu sa te integrezi, avem nevoie! Cea mai la indemana metoda de a profita de trend-ul crypto mi se pare ca este trading-ul, asa ca am inceput sa ma documentez si sa fac primii pasi in lumea asta, am fost chiar si la un seminar despre trading unde am ramas impresionata de cate lucruri stiam eu deja fata de persoana care tinea seminarul, asa ca am continuat sa invat de pe internet. Printre altele am urmarit tot felul de youtuberi crypto si in ultima vreme au inceput sa imi apara sugestii de la crypto youtuberi romani, de la care am aflat si de acest forum defapt.
Deci prin urmare m-as simtii onorata daca ma puteti ajuta sa imi recomandati ce crypto youtuberi romani ar trebuii sa urmaresc sau pe cine urmariti voi?
Nu am o cariera din trading, insa am incercat de multe ori si de fiecare data a iesit nasol. Piata de criptomonede e intr-o continua miscare si, in mod constant, exista riscul ca investitia ta sa "o ia razna" de la diverse stiri ce par banale la prima vedere. Spre exemplu, daca o moneda necunoscuta se anunta ca va fi listata pe exchange-ul Binance, pretul monedei respective creste brusc, uneori chiar si de cateva ori in termen de cateva ore. Astfel, piata poti observa ca este cam imatura. Problema este ca multi traderi cumpara monede complet necunoscute, investind bani anapoda in ceva ce nu are viitor.. si ajung dupa o vreme sa le vanda, iesind pe minus. Din experienta mea personala, am iesit mult mai bine pur si simplu investind in BTC sau alte monede si tinandu-mi banii acolo. Din trading am iesit pe plus din punct de vedere al sumei in USD, insa daca trag linie la final.. as fi avut si mai mult de atat daca as fi mentinut banii de la bun inceput doar in BTC. Exemplu: investesti $1000 in Monero. Dupa o luna, sa presupunem ca piata creste suficient cat sa iti dubleze suma. Insa daca te uiti inapoi catre BTC, observi ca acum e de 3 ori mai mare pretul decat momentul in care tu ai cumparat Monero. Monero ti-a dublat banii, dar Bitcoin ti i-ar fi triplat. Asa se intampla de obicei. Daca as fi in locul tau, eu as investi banii in Bitcoin sau alte monede de top (personal, sugerez Monero) si as incerca eventual sa ma "joc" cu vreo $100-200 pe un exchange astfel incat sa te obisnuiesti cu pietele si, in cazul in care pierzi, sa nu ai mari pagube. Sincer sa fiu, youtuberi nu ti-as sugera. O mare parte dintre ei sunt sponsorizati sau au un succes doar temporar. Cele mai proaste decizii le-am luat cand am urmarit pe altcineva. Cel mai bun lucru pe care il poti face e sa faci tu un studiu de piata si apoi sa te decizi, in functie de stirile/statisticile care apar, cum sa actionezi. Sper ca te-am lamurit. Ti-am oferit acum un raspuns bazat strict pe experienta mea personala; nu inseamna ca trebuie si sa urmezi cu strictete ce am spus. Insa cred eu ca 7 ani de zile mi-au fost mai mult decat suficienti sa inteleg ce sa evit si ce sa nu. Bafta maxima mai departe si .. te asteptam pe aici oricand ai vreo nelamurire! |
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Ceea ce sugereaza @3dOOm am sa sugerez si eu: o investitie de 30k EUR in asa ceva inseamna sa ii si recuperezi, pe urma, din ce minezi. Iar asta e destul de dificil, deoarece pe masura ce trece timpul, trebuie sa tot progresezi la echipamente din ce in ce mai puternice. Cu alte cuvinte, o sa ai de reinvestit si profitul tau va fi cel mai probabil mult mai mic decat daca ai cumpara monedele direct. Daca vrei tu neaparat sa faci asta de placere, e ok. Dar sa nu te dezamagesti singur daca ajungi in situatia in care observi cum creste pretul, creste si hashrate-ul iar tu te-ai ales in final doar cu niste componente si cateva sute de dolari in BTC. La partea cu panouri solare eu nu m-as baga. Suna bine, in teorie. Dar intretinerea, din ce stiu, te cam rupe. Altfel, ar fi facut multi asta. Altfel vorbeam daca deja ai fi detinut panourile si te batea gandul sa le folosesti la putere maxima, daca tot le ai. Eu nu sunt prea avansat pe partea cu minatul, eventual sunt la nivel de incepator/mediu, insa nu m-am implicat niciodata in asa ceva pentru ca investitiile directe au adus mult mai multe castiguri decat potentialele incasari din mining. |
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Honestly, I check the addresses, hashes, amounts, fees etc multiple times every time I initiate a transaction - be it ten bucks or a thousand. Is being in a hurry a priority over properly checking tx details?
With my Ledger, I usually write down on a paper the first and last 5 chars of the address I have to send BTC to, then I open up Electrum, then the website/app where the deposit address is shown and finally initiate the tx. When the confirmation appears on my Ledger, I check it multiple times from 4 sources: Ledger's display, Electrum, the website and my paper.
I would've spent even 10 damn minutes on an address check before sending a friggin' million! It's just silly.
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One thing for certain is that Bitcoin will have a NEXT PEAK, and after that NewATH is reached, a deep correction of -80%-90% in price will occur as a gift from Bitcoin to us to accumulate more [based on previous Data's Bitcoin has given us as clues on price correction]
Honestly, while I'm expecting the exact same thing, Bitcoin has surprised us so many times I personally wouldn't put all my trust in it like that. It could very well surprise us and move completely different this time compared to the last few 4-year cycles. The ones like me who found out about Bitcoin after the most precious gift given from Bitcoin before the current Bull Market's Peak, was back in March 12-13, when Bitcoin was sitting at a price area of 3.8K-4K [which is quite some money for third-world countries but not so much for other developed countries]
Now it seems like Bitcoin will never again fall below 10K area, and that's why the term 'I'm too Late' pops-up.
You're not late for the price either imo. Bitcoin has appeared only a decade ago. It's like Gold had been discovered a decade ago. You're very early, may I say. The adoption % and market immaturity speaks strong words. How much I wish I was blessed to found out about Bitcoin at least on the 2017 ATH so I could've followed it's price movements and buy at bear market's phase.
Just think about it: I've spent my Bitcoins when 1 BTC was less than $180, thinking it'll go down to zero. Each of us learns from their mistakes and we don't always have that much luck. Most of the OG Bitcoiners have sold when Bitcoin wasn't even $100. Think of mining a coin that's worth nothing and then, suddenly, the price bumps from nothing to $10. Nobody ever thought at the time that $10k is realistic. $1M sounds more than insane today, but if history repeats, it's not. And if that happens, most people'd probably cash out earlier leaving only few hodlers for the big prize.  Now it's too late for anyone helping someone out when Bitcoin has become a game of greed.
Life is a game of greed. You just have to accept that others sometimes have more advantage and luck than you do, and move on with your plans. You never know when new opportunities and luck hits you as well. |
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Multumesc pentru sugestii, am sa arunc o privire peste ele. Doar sa am timp sa le citesc. Referitor la thread-ul de +1000 Merits, am sa revin cu el in urmatoarele zile cu siguranta. |
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Ok thanks. One question: How easy is it to see that a coin has gone through coinjoin earlier?
After coinjoining, transfer your coins to at least a few unused addresses you own before depositing anywhere. Make sure you don't link previously used, non-coinjoined coins to the freshly coinjoined ones. If the most recent tx is the coinjoin, you risk getting your funds frozen for suspicious activity. Centralized services and platforms tend to freeze these coins as mixers/coinjoins/whirlpools are sometimes unfortunately considered a criminal's tool. If after coinjoining you jump your coins through at least a few other addresses (also, the more time passing between the txs, the better), I doubt they'll find out or care. The higher the anonymity set, the harder it gets for them to find out the addresses your coins initially came from though. The best ones in untangling these coinjoins are blockchain analysis companies, but that requires lots of resources they will likely not spend. |
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Salut! Depinde de ceea ce alegi sa minezi: solo sau pool mining.
Daca sistemul de mining este PoW, fiecare block minat are cate un "reward". Acest reward poate fi castigat prin minare solo (iti incerci norocul cu propriul echipament) sau pool mining (iti folosesti puterea echipamentului tau, alaturi de echipamentele altora, iar daca unul dintre voi mineaza un block, castigul se imparte in functie de contributia echipamentului).
Pe solo mining tu trebuie practic sa minezi un block cu puterea pe care o ai in echipament. Asta inseamna ca vei fi tu, cu echipamentul tau, versus toti ceilalti mineri din lume.. adica sansele sa minezi solo sunt, astazi, foarte mici atata timp cat nu ai o ferma de minat. Cu toate astea, daca reusesti sa minezi un block solo, primesti tot reward-ul.
Daca minezi in pool, o sa primesti contributia ta pentru fiecare block minat.. adica asa cum pare ca vrei tu. In functie de cat a ajutat echipamentul tau, vei fi rasplatit. Nu am inteles prea bine ce spui cu TRON si DICE. Ce inseamna sa minezi un token cu 200 TRON? Suna a ceva investitie, nu minat. Esti sigur ca nu te-ai bagat in ceva cloud mining?
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De fapt eu sunt in urma, ca 1000 am primit moca, pe vechime. Sper ca intr-o buna zi sa ajung si eu Legendary pe bune. Dar mai dureaza...
Deci.. felicitari voua!
Daca imi aduc bine aminte, eu am primit tot "pe vechime" undeva la 200-250 merite. Nici eu nu am luat-o de la zero. Totusi, sunt destul de sigur ca in momentul de fata le meritam toti 3. Cred ca exact lipsa de activitate pe Ro face ca noi sa nu avem sanse prea mari la ChipMixer.
Csf, ncsf...
Ai dreptate, insa sunt destul de sigur ca ar ambitiona si alti cativa membrii pe aici sa se activeze |
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It does not completely do it, nor does it permanently do so. As the ledger is public and immutable, if a way is ever found to link joined coins, your entire past of CoinJoins will be connected as well.
Think of CoinJoin like a room nobody has the key to, besides you. You can hide whatever you like in there, but if anyone ever finds the way to open it, they'll know all your secrets. All you have to do is be extra cautious after mixing/joining/whirlpooling coins. If you're using them the wrong way (like linking joined coins to non-joined ones you own, sending the coins to previously used addresses or exchanges etc), going through these privacy-improving procedures is in vain.
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Pe care o ai? De curiozitate intreb.
Cypherpunks. Ma intereseaza sa intru si in posesia cartii Permanent Record, de Edward Snowden. Felicitari pentru atingerea celor 1000 merite! Acum suntem toti trei trecuti de acest milestone. Cat ne va lua oare sa ajungem la 2000? |
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The answers above kinda scare me - you guys either invested more than you could've afforded or the economical situation is really going straight down towards the ground.
I personally haven't had issues with my portfolio since the beginning of the pandemic. Actually, I've made some quite smart moves overall at the perfect time and I'm very happy with them right now. So far, I've successfully been able to go through all this harsh time without having to sell any of my assets. Hopefully things won't change. The only negative change I've had so far is that it became much harder to use crypto ATMs during the lockdowns - and I feel like KYC is coming soon to all of them in my country as well.
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malicious code is not as obvious as you may think. it is not like you would see a line on the code saying protocol.cpp
OnEachAct()
Call_NSA();
Report_To_IRS()
for example if you look at the P2P protocol you can see there were many weaknesses in it, some of which could help another malicious node connected to you to find out a lot about your node (like figuring out addresses that belonged to you). not saying they were maliciously put there but the point is that it is not that hard to introduce this kind of "backdoors" in the protocol without them being noticed easily. the more complicated the protocol gets the harder it would be to detect them too. 2017 also proved that many people in bitcoin world do have malicious intents. I surely wasn't expecting obvious malicious lines, but I suppose these are peer-reviewed before being pushed to the public. If someone has the intention to insert something malicious into Bitcoin's codelines, they're probably going to do it at one point whether Coinbase bribes them or not - or maybe they've already done it. As @stompix says, they'd be just as guilty as Coinbase for taking the sponsorship. While the company might possibly want to change BTC their way, they basically just offered traitors a bait .. and someone would've done this instead of them at one point anyway (maybe Binance, as it seems like they're trying to become the Google of crypto?). If I was a BTC dev, I wouldn't take money from Coinbase unless I knew I'd agree to some stuff others wouldn't. |
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If it gets done in some way, I think it will be an end for the privacy coin because, after monero, they will target other privacy coins as well. Also, the IRS will eliminate these privacy coins by providing these tools to the entire world. However, I think the IRS wants to eliminate the privacy coins under the pretext of tax evaders.
Believe me, I do not know why the IRS is taking this step. Tax evaders or any other intention behind this all.
There are ways to "de-anonymize" privacy-focused cryptocurrencies as long as their users don't use it properly. The IRS could lose your track if you know how to use Bitcoin properly as well, it's just that it is too easy for them to identify users because almost nobody practices privacy protection measures. The only thing is, they will likely not gather access to much information besides who owns a certain address - or maybe there's a way to create a malicious miner/node that somehow links txs and addresses. The sad and scary part is that if they truly get to "crack" Monero though, they'll probably never share the news until it becomes obvious for us. By then, it may be too late as everyone's privacy would be already compromised. |
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As far as I know, Bitcoin's market value is not dependent to fiat currencies. The price of it is more determined by the demand and supply just like the any other things being sold to the masses, perhaps. The difference of its market value is its degree of volatility which is multiple times higher than the value of gold, as an example, as well as fiat currencies. More likely, the reason is regulation. Bitcoin is decentralized which voids the idea of regulation making its price not dependent to anything in the "world market". Feel free to correct me because that is how I understand its market value.
Demand & supply is part of what moves Bitcoin's price, but it's waay more complicated than that. It's not as easy as determining the level of the two. However, when for example demand reaches extremities (ATH or ATL), it certainly does become a significant price influencer. Other things currently being sold to the masses don't have some features Bitcoin does, such as halving or mining hashrate. Inflation likely influences the price the same way it influences prices of commodities or any other assets/services/goods, but overall it's a big mixture of various data that leads to a specific price on the markets. It's even determined by some stuff that may seem unessential at first sight such as how many coins are dormant, trading volume etc.. Once all this information put together creates a certain market feel, it moves accordingly. |
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