Bitcoin Forum
May 24, 2024, 03:21:46 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 ... 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 [74] 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 »
1461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price down to 13.7 - How low will it go? on: March 21, 2013, 08:40:06 PM
I would love to buy some more coin back then...

back yesterday?

 We are playing the summer 2011 events in this theater...

No, in Summer of 2011 the price never went below about 32 before climbing back up to 500 (in Nov 2011).
1462  Economy / Economics / Re: The latest self-driven BTC demand? on: March 21, 2013, 08:35:51 PM
Avalon team ask for 88 BTC for their mining rig, and they only accept BTC payment. In order to get those BTC, people who do not have so much BTC will have to buy from exchage, and this pushed the exchange price up, and Avalon team will receive at least 88000 BTC in sale

This proved my theory before: A business who only accept BTC payment will become the strong support for BTC exchange price, if their products are highly demanded

But this case is a little bit special, people buying the avalon machine are hoping for a quick ROI, and the return is BTC. Asic mining equipment manufacturing maybe is the only business in BTC economy that can generate such a high return that attract so many investors

Then here is the question: If those ASIC mining companies are continuously raise the price of their mining rig for each new generation products, and they only accept BTC, then the BTC price will continously rise due to shrinking supply of BTC, and the rising price of BTC will create higher and higher demand for ASIC mining equipment.....all self sustained loop, is this long term sustainable? For how long?



Goes on until the people selling the ASICs need to pay their bills, and sell all those bitcoins for the USD or EUR or CHY or whatever their suppliers and taxmen demand.
1463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price down to 13.7 - How low will it go? on: March 21, 2013, 07:21:16 PM
Oh god, now it's down to -$0.40. That means I owe 40 cents for each coin I own.  Cry

Hey, we are having a serious discussion here, no need to insert made up data!
1464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price down to 13.7 - How low will it go? on: March 21, 2013, 07:13:53 PM
I would love to buy some more coin back then...

back yesterday?

There will always be people looking back at the wonderful times of yesterday, wishing, just wishing.
1465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price down to 15.6 - How low will it go? on: March 21, 2013, 06:40:31 PM
Down to 13.7 now, those single digits are looking closer and closer.
1466  Economy / Economics / Re: European Union is robbing its citizens' bank accounts. 9.9% to be confiscated. on: March 21, 2013, 06:35:14 PM

Quote from: Peter Lambert
Just to nitpick a bit (fair notice, I am a minarchish libertarian) The government is there to produce something: an environment of law and order, which in turn fosters greater economic activity. People can spend more time doing useful things because we do not have to be constantly looking over our shoulders and fighting off robbers. Or, at least, that is how it should work (but governments are bloated and irresposibly trying to do more than they should and we need to cut back their powers to a great degree).

What happens when it's your government that is the robber?

I don't see why anyone would leave money in a bank after this. Let the mattress stuffing begin...

If it is your government doing the robbing, then it is time to expunge exterminate the criminals and start over again.

Expunge gives a meaning of absolution - to remove from record.


Expunge, exterminate, expel, remove, throw out, eliminate, displace, unseat, defeat, disarm, whatever you want to call removing them from power.
1467  Economy / Economics / Re: European Union is robbing its citizens' bank accounts. 9.9% to be confiscated. on: March 21, 2013, 04:37:35 PM

Quote from: me
Just to nitpick a bit (fair notice, I am a minarchish libertarian) The government is there to produce something: an environment of law and order, which in turn fosters greater economic activity. People can spend more time doing useful things because we do not have to be constantly looking over our shoulders and fighting off robbers. Or, at least, that is how it should work (but governments are bloated and irresposibly trying to do more than they should and we need to cut back their powers to a great degree).

What happens when it's your government that is the robber?

I don't see why anyone would leave money in a bank after this. Let the mattress stuffing begin...

If it is your government doing the robbing, then it is time to expunge the criminals and start over again.
1468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fight!!! Silver versus bitcoin on: March 21, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
Poll is flawed. It should also have an option for "neither".

Not that I would vote that way, but the option should be there for completeness. I think bitcoins will hit $100 within 1 month to two years, and silver will hit $100 somewhere between three and ten years.

In my opinion the poll is valid. Both are certain to go past $100 the only question is which first. The USD and all fiat currencies are turning into toilet paper thanks to central bankers.

edit - although this is definately a home win for bitcoins. wonder what a similar poll would show on a metals forum. Theres a lot of anti-bitcoin sentiment on tfmetalsreport for example.

Conceivable it would be possible for the US to stop printing money, stop spending money they don't have, thus turning around their financial situation and strengthing the USD to the extent that silver never hits $100. Hah, it was hard for me to write that with a straight face. The US has a policy of trying to keep inflation around 3-4% per year, so unless the policy makers are all thrown out and replaced with anti-inflationists, silver and bitcoin will inevitably hit that $100 mark.
1469  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: March 21, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
I was just reading about what Senator Feinstein is proposing for gun regulation. She is trying to outlaw all assault riffles with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip. Never mind the argument about how few crimes are actually committed with such weapons, the ban is silly because it focuses on features which are more cosmetic than functional.

I do not want to give too many ideas to make them ban even more weapons, but consider the M1 Garand, which would not be banned by such a law, but this powerful and capable weapon helped the US win WWII, but the wimpy (in comparison) M1 carbine would be banned.

Also consider that all AKs will be banned by the law, but the functionally simmilar SKS would be allowed. The SKS uses the same cartridge as the AK, but does not come with a pistol grip and has a fixed magazine which can be loaded using 10 round stripper clips to keep up a steady fire almost equal to that of a semiauto AK.

What I think is the most hilarious is (if I understand correctly) the proposed law specifies the Ruger mini-14 tactical, while leaving the other model of the Ruger mini-14 legal, just because one has a pistol grip and the other does not. They are the same damn gun, but due to the arbitrary line which the law draws, one is legal and the other is not.

[/rant]
1470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Litecoin really really cheap right now? Or is it dying? on: March 20, 2013, 09:02:29 PM

But I think things are actually going the other way: ASICs make mining easier (for those who have them). If it takes less effort to get the bitcoins, since the miner is more efficient, then that miner will be willing to sell at a lower price. To use your analogy, if you know a gold rush is coming (and the supply of gold will go up), then why would you buy now? You would offer a lower price in anticipation of the increased supply.

But there is no increased supply.  The difficulty adjustments ensure that the supply remains fairly constant.

That is exactly my point. The supply is staying he same, but the people generating that supply are doing it more easily. So for the amount of the supply which is coming from miners, that amount should be available at a lower price. Then you have to take into account that the percentage of bitcoins being generated new each day is declining, and so the miners are becoming less and less of a factor in the pricing of bitcoins, so the argument is becoming less and less meaningful as time goes on. So a bitcoin is worth what people are willing to pay for it, miners just have to admit they have no control over the price at all.
1471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ripple: let's test it! on: March 20, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
I would like to try this, but my account was a few days under the date needed to recieve free XRP to start you off. To late to the party, again  Sad

As I pointed out a few posts up, you could get enough XRP to try it out for just a few mBTC. You only need a few hundred XRP to get started, and they are going for something on the order of 100 XRP per mBTC.
1472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price down to 15.6 - How low will it go? on: March 20, 2013, 06:32:10 PM
Perhaps it will go to 2, like BTCUSD did Wink

You think it will reverse when we hit 2, or will it just keep going down?
1473  Economy / Speculation / Price down to 1.25 - How low will it go? on: March 20, 2013, 06:16:31 PM
Wow, the price has been sinking fast lately. I just checked and it was down to just 15.6, I sold just a few weeks ago at 31.2, it looks like we will be seeing single digits soon!

Of course, I am talking about the price of a USD in mBTC.

Edit: updated title with current price. 2013-04-09

Yup, we got to single digits Smiley

Edit (2013-04-22): Changed the title to show lowest price.

Edit (2013-11-07): New low price reached, 3.09.

Edit (2013-11-21): The price keeps dropping, it is hard to keep track of where it is at.
1474  Economy / Economics / Re: European Union is robbing its citizens' bank accounts. 9.9% to be confiscated. on: March 20, 2013, 06:03:27 PM

Understand one basic thing: the government doesn't produce anything. Every penny it has, it has taken from innocent people. Forcing the taxvictims to pay the burden is way much unfairer. They have nothing to do with the issue!


Just to nitpick a bit (fair notice, I am a minarchish libertarian) The government is there to produce something: an environment of law and order, which in turn fosters greater economic activity. People can spend more time doing useful things because we do not have to be constantly looking over our shoulders and fighting off robbers. Or, at least, that is how it should work (but governments are bloated and irresposibly trying to do more than they should and we need to cut back their powers to a great degree).
1475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fight!!! Silver versus bitcoin on: March 20, 2013, 05:48:20 PM
This isn't even a competition.  It's like a 2 year old fighting Muhammad Ali.

More like a 90 year old fighter leaning on a walker wondering who this upstart thinks he is messing with.
1476  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fight!!! Silver versus bitcoin on: March 20, 2013, 05:46:31 PM
Poll is flawed. It should also have an option for "neither".

Not that I would vote that way, but the option should be there for completeness. I think bitcoins will hit $100 within 1 month to two years, and silver will hit $100 somewhere between three and ten years.
1477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Ultimate bear chart on: March 20, 2013, 05:43:42 PM
I would like somebody to post the price chart with the time on a log scale again. That was pretty entertaining.
1478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ripple: let's test it! on: March 20, 2013, 05:39:46 PM
rw75ru8M6oPCZrC7gDW8MuevqPrLxu8Xtn
I uh, have no idea. I created an account now what? I can enter other accounts as contacts? What happens if I add random people as contacts? oO

Edit: Uh ok, canīt add people need those rpx? How do i get them? Except trying this forum game thingy?

It does seem strange you can't start using ripple for anything until you get some xrp, but you can't even buy the xrp until you have an active account. There was the free xrp giveaway thread for people with bicointalk accounts created before the giveaway started.

The other thing you could do is have somebody lend you some xrp as a started loan. I have done this for at least one person in the past: I send you 300 xrp (that is enough to get started), after which you can buy some xrp by depositing btc through one of the gateways and using the ripple exchange, then send me back the xrp I lent you (plus whatever amount of interest).

Or you could directly buy some xrp from somebody on the forum, you send them btc and they send xrp to your ripple account. So if you send me 5 mBTC, I will send you 500 XRP so you can start using your ripple account.
1479  Economy / Securities / Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx on: March 20, 2013, 05:28:13 PM
How about, SDICE is low because profit is down this month again?

Bitcoin dividends are a large part of asset value.

Most bitcoin 'investors' can't see more than 2 days beyond the next payday. 

Considering how many people were drawn in by the 7% per week scam a few months ago, I agree many are shortsighted.
1480  Economy / Speculation / Re: why I sold my bitcoins.... on: March 19, 2013, 09:05:25 PM
If bitcoins are ever at the price level of 1 BTC = $10k, they will not be used for gambling microtransactions or small online purchases, they will be used by bankers and gangsters (can you tell the difference?) to hide and move large sums of money.

Why not both?

Because of the limited size of blocks, there can only be so many transactions processed per block. Because of the way the transaction fee works it makes sense to send large transactions rather than small ones. This can be mitigated somewhat by increasing the maximum block size, and by lowering the threshold for requiring a fee, but as the value of one bitcoin goes up, the amount of bitcoins in a microtransaction or purchase goes down.
The fees have been lowered in the past, and if the price of bitcoins continues going up they could be lowered again, but if blocks are getting filled up then it does not make sense to lower the fee.
Pages: « 1 ... 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 [74] 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 »
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!