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1461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 24, 2022, 08:52:09 AM
I think they are destined to fight, no matter how Inoue will evade Casimero, the time will come when he will have no option but to fight Casimero. If he really is a real champion, he should fight anyone who likes to challenge him as long as the fighter is eligible to fight. Casimero also has to make sure that he will not make stupid mistakes again so he will continue to be successful in this higher division.
Inoue is not really afraid of anyone on his division and I am sure that he will be willing to fight Casimero in the future if they are still in the same division, it is just that Casimero has made too many mistakes on his career as a boxer and his personal life that it has stopped at the moment any possibly to see the two of them going at each other with everything they have, but there is no need to be worried because sooner or later they will face each other.

Yes, I don't think Inoue is scared of Casimero. It's a shame their scheduled bout was canceled due to the pandemic. Inoue wants to become undisputed and would've met Casimero if the latter remained disciplined and determined to boxing. Although I disagree with the way Casimero was stripped of his WBO belt, I do admit that he did many wrong decisions including his personal life that ruined his championship reign. I am also starting to doubt his ability to win a 4th division belt at 122 due to his size. If he is disciplined and still determined, he should stay at 118 and make the weight.

Their bout was canceled due to the pandemic, however, when the pandemic was already over, Inoue did not give Casimero a chance to make the fight happen. Fans were disappointed with what happened as we are supposed to see a big fight but it was not realized.

The closest chance they'll meet in the ring was when Casimero was still a champ, but I don't know, maybe Inoue's promoter prevented that from happening. Actually, Inoue could choose to unify with Casimero first instead of choosing Donaire.
1462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 24, 2022, 07:56:14 AM
And so Ramirez didn't view Bivol as his tougher opponent so far:

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“Not really,” said Ramirez during an interview with FightHype.com when asked if Bivol is the best fighter he’s taken on. “I been in the ring with so many good fighters. I think this is really important for me because it’s a title fight but I been with really good fighters too.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/zurdo-ramirez-view-bivol-best-opponent-hes-ever-faced--169923

Oh well, yes Zurdo is undefeated and won his last couple of fights are against fighters that are old and way past their prime. But this time it will be against a prime fighter in Bivol. Maybe he underestimate Bivol here and that is very dangerous. Or maybe this is just part of the trash talking but we all know that most of the time, it will backfire on them.

This is great, both fighters believe that they are the best, so what can we expect? of course, we will see fireworks in this fight as both fighters are aggressive and therefore could deliver an entertaining fight.

If I would be impressed with the statement of Ramirez, I might be tempted with his very enticing odds.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/bivol-big-favorite-against-zurdo/

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According to the best boxing betting sites, champion Bivol is the -550 betting favorite to retain his belt with Ramirez coming back at +350 odds:
1463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: October 24, 2022, 07:20:48 AM
If I watch any more football today I'm going to lose my mind.  I did well betting but Fantasy is driving me insane. Turning my attention to basketball now. I think I'm going to take a little action on the Golden State warriors at -9.  I think that they can cover that.
we lose our bet, Warriors were not too dominant in that game. Their shooting is good but their defense wasn't that's why the game was close despite they won the game. In short, they didn't cover and we lose.  Smiley

Ugly loss for the Lakers only dropping the game by two.  The are going to have a terrible season.  I don't know even know what that point is for Lebron now.
I stayed away in this game, I knew the Lakers are still in "struggling stage" this season.
1464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: October 23, 2022, 02:02:14 PM
As long as there are fans that are willing to pay this exhibition match, it will continue. The Paul Brothers and Floyd Mayweather are making huge money. Even those former boxers and MMA fighters as well.

That's true, only the fans can stop this madness because without the fans they will not make money. It's robbing the real boxing fight because the revenue might be split or it won't be able to maximize the profit of the professional fights, but it's not the fault of the promoters of exhibition fights because boxing whether it's professional or exhibition still belongs to entertainment.

The success of this kind of events always rely with how the fans support the fight, though most of the time promoters knowledge in attracting the social media fans makes it more successful, the noise around the public setup and the fighters that they will introduce always reflects to how the fans will engaged and buy the tickets,

I'm sure that the logic behind is to keep making money and both the fighters and promoters will keep finding ways to make sure that in every event that they will introduce, the fans' interactions will be there to sell the tickets and views.

Promoters are really smart, they rarely made mistakes because this is their expertise and they have people to sell the fight. This particular fight is not hard to sell, we have Manny Pacquiao, a legend, so whoever his opponent is, it doesn't matter because people will only come to watch Manny win by punishing his opponent.
1465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: October 23, 2022, 01:32:45 PM
Two in a row already, I'm a bit lucky with my single pick everyday, so let's take it to 3 winning streak.  Smiley

Game : Golden State Warriors vs Sacramento Kings.

I think this is the easiest game tomorrow, they were embarrassed on their opening game, so it's time for them to entertain the fans and I'm thinking of a possibility that they'll dominate the Kings just like what they did to the LA Lakers, so my pick would be Warriors -9.5.
1466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: October 22, 2022, 12:15:09 PM
As long as there are fans that are willing to pay this exhibition match, it will continue. The Paul Brothers and Floyd Mayweather are making huge money. Even those former boxers and MMA fighters as well.

That's true, only the fans can stop this madness because without the fans they will not make money. It's robbing the real boxing fight because the revenue might be split or it won't be able to maximize the profit of the professional fights, but it's not the fault of the promoters of exhibition fights because boxing whether it's professional or exhibition still belongs to entertainment.
1467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: October 22, 2022, 12:00:37 PM
Anyway, do you guys catch the Jazz ML? That team is very surprising, Clarkson and company are playing very well.
It's also Markkanen. He is showing greatness from Eurobasket up to NBA, all he needs is this break unlike when he was at the Cavs.

These underrated players will shine with the Utah Jazz because there's no star player in them, the only old or veteran players here are Clarkson and Conley, both are doing pretty well so far, especially Clarkson. Also, Sexton has not explode yet, he had some great season with the Cavaliers last season, he'll bring it here for sure.

They will if they will continue to be consistent, they are in a rebuilding stage but look where they are now, 2-0 start, that's unbelievable because that win was against a strong teams.

By the way, here's my pick for tomorrow.

Miami Heat vs Toronto Raptors.

I bet against the Heat yesterday but this time around I'm going to bet on them.
Currently, they are in a 2 losing streak, what I'm seeing tomorrow is a team that is desperate to win, so I will bet on the spread.

PICK : HEAT -2.5
1468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29 on: October 22, 2022, 07:22:25 AM
Ok, I don't think that someone has posted a video of Ortiz as we mostly talked about Loma and his comeback back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8qBBb0Jn_c

So what do you guys think? Is this kind of performance against former champion in Herring will upset Loma? Or the kid has a lot to learn still as he have said in the post fight interview. Things that he needs to improved. Nevertheless, it's priceless experience just to share the ring with Loma and it can bring something to Ortiz who is still very young at 26 years old.

He was good in that fight because he won that fight, but Herring is already old, I mean he fought a leftover while this time he will face Loma who is still at his prime, so it's not going to be the same as Loma will certainly make it look like a walk in the park.

We will see if how he will try his chance against the returning well-known fighter,
that argument is valid since Loma is still in his prime, though he went away for a while and now returning inside the ring.

Ortiz has his chance to build his name and if ever upset happens here for sure, he will receive more interesting title fights or money fights
that will really bring his career high.

All will be decided on the outcome of this fight. Both fighters will have a good upcoming career once they win this fight.

That if is not gonna happen, and I still think that if even Loma losses here, he will still come back again and win. Loma is not like other boxers who losses their popularity when they lose, look at Loma, he loss to Lopez but come back with consecutive wins, so his excuses are valid during that loss.
1469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 22, 2022, 06:29:42 AM

About the chances of him meeting Casimero in the future, it's possible although Quadro Alas needs to start building his rank in the Super Bantamweight.


And as for the experienced watching Casimero, he's always on a mission where he wanted to earn his spot.

Though it's no longer the same weight where he manages to dominate and win the belt, it's another challenge for him
beating stronger opponents.

The chance for meeting Inoue will be there after he accomplished establishing his resume from this new division that
he choose to move,.


It will take time for him but he will get there for sure, he just need to win every fight, including this comeback fight of course as it's a huge step for his new journey. After Inoue will win, he will be moving up and that again he will meet Casimero, and hopefully he will go for a match.

Let's just wait for the result of this fight, I know we are excited to see Casimero being back again fighting champions. Also, this topic is about Butler and Inoue, though it's not an interesting fight to watch IMO but it's part of the process for Inoue to become an undisputed champion. Just like Canelo, although he move up, he was still the favorite in his first try and he lose in that fight, so nothing is certain once Inoue move up.
1470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: October 22, 2022, 05:33:36 AM
....therefore my pick is CELTICS -2.5.

As usual, Celtics won again, it was too easy for them to win even on the road, I think I will continue backing this team as they showed consistency as they did in the past season. Anyway, do you guys catch the Jazz ML? That team is very surprising, Clarkson and company are playing very well.
1471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 21, 2022, 03:13:38 PM
Bantamweight is the division where he is dominating, and if he will win his next fight and will try to move up, that's the time we will see if Inoue can still carry his power and speed in a higher division. He is very popular now because of his high KO rate, but there's a huge challenge waiting for him, and as a fan, that makes us excited to find out if he can still succeed.

Yes mate there many big fights waiting for him in the higher division in the world of boxing but I think if inoue want to fight in higher weight then the chances of winning are getting smaller. As we all know that in the higher division, strength and power are bases to win the fight. but if even inoue rise his weight and the power and speed are there for him then he can win because the more his speed getting quicklier the more chance he win.

He will slowly go up, just like Manny Pacquiao did. About his chances, we never know, but one thing I know is that he will be a scary opponent to the champions, and it's nice to see him not playing safe as he will try to push his limit to be one of the greatest in boxing industry.

He can follow the footstep of Manny Pacquiao but he will never beat the achievement of Pacquiao who is the only 8th division champion. Inoue though one of the most popular boxers now I find him not a total risk taker as he does not accept every challenge on him, just like when Casimero was still a champ and he was challenged, he did respond to words that he will fight him but did not sign a contract, not sure if it's his promoter of it's really him who is not interested in fighting his closest rival.
1472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terence Crawford vs David Avanesyan December 10 on: October 21, 2022, 02:48:14 PM


Bottomline, no matter how powerful Avenesyan is, he is not on the level of Crawford and for me this is just "to keep busy" fight for Crawford while ironing things out for the Spence fight next year but nevertheless it is a cherry-picked opponent.

I believe its also a cherry-picked fight for an eventual meeting with Spence next year, Crawford has been out of the ring for a long time he needs some challenge to avoid ring rust, but I read that Spence is moving up because he's been in this weight for so many years, both fighters loss on this missed opportunity, there's been a lot of great fights this year against bitter rivals but unfortunately, both camps cannot agree to agree, it seems they don't want to fight maybe not this year.

Obviously, it's just a cherry-pick fight because it's not what people are expecting, we want to see him fight Spence, however, despite of the hype, it still did not push through and there's no official attachment as to when the fight will really happen. Fans are tired of waiting, it's not gonna happen this year but it's still nice to see Crawford fight this opponent than not fighting at all.
1473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: October 21, 2022, 02:17:52 PM
Here's my pick for tomorow.

Game : Celtics vs Heat.

I think that the Celtics as a team still carry the confidence they have last season. Though they are under a new coach their last game is evidence that the team is still complete and they still played like a championship team. Celtics is on a mission, they fall short on the last NBA Championship but they will try to win this time, so with that mission, I believe they will try everything to win every game, therefore my pick is CELTICS -2.5.
1474  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3 on: October 20, 2022, 02:07:26 PM
Casimero is my Bet on this one , there are advantage towards Akaho because he is ahead in height and reach but Casimero is one of the most toughest boxer in His division so maybe lets call this as a much awaited fight  so better to  have your choice and bet .

and also Casimero will go Head to head in this one and not going distance to lessen the advantage of Akaho.

Same here, this is his comeback fight and I'm sure he will not mess this one up. No betting odds yet but I'm certain that Casimero will be the favorite to win this fight. Maybe waiting is the only thing to do now, and since both fighters have enough time to train, I'm hoping that we will see a war, not a fight that one will run while the other will chase.
1475  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 20, 2022, 01:06:55 PM
I think that Damion Lee was the secret hero of the Suns - Mavericks game despite having only 11 points. Because he played a big role in the win by his contributions to his team in the last moments. He scored important points and his defending Luka Doncic in the last seconds was also important.

As for Luka Doncic I think that he was the most performed player of the game (35 pts, 9 reb and 6 ast). If he was able to score the buzzer-beater in the last seconds it was going to be enough for the win. But the shot fell short there I'm afraid. Mavericks nearly doubled the number of 3-pointers Suns had in this game but Suns still managed to get the win by 107-105. Booker's performance (28 pts, 4 reb, 9 ast) had a big impact on this victory of course.

Luka is one of the best players in the NBA, I think his performance throughout the game was quite good. He scored 35 points and had 9 rebounds, a game-winning performance alone.
But I think he couldn't use the last ball correctly. With only 5 seconds left, they could have played an inward game rather than opting for a fairly far shot, or he could have tried a closer 3-pointer. He trusted himself, but as a result of this trust, they could not win the match

Or they should make a time out to make the right execution, Luka's 3-point shooting is very accurate, that's why he opted for that 3-point shot that settles for 2 points to tie the game. But looking at that shoot, it's not a high percentage shot that's why we criticize him, but it's just one game, they'll bounce back for sure.

The game is over, if they want to make an adjustment, they should do it next time. I thought that Dallas would really win the game because CP3 wasn't even contributing a decent number in that game, but the teamwork of the Suns did kill the momentum of the Dallas as they were a more aggressive in the 4th quarter.

Lee was the Hero in that game, he deserve to be the best player.
1476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: October 20, 2022, 12:18:10 PM
After witnessing plenty of games on the 2nd day of the season, tomorrow we will be limited with 2 games only.

Bucks vs 76ers -4
Clippers vs Lakers +5.5


I feel betting on the favorites would give me a win, so I'm leaning with the 76ers to bounce back from their previous game's loss and the Clippers to gave the Lakers their 2 losses in a row.
1477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2022-2023 betting on: October 19, 2022, 12:39:18 PM
Opening this thread again since the NBA regular season has already started.

Upcoming games.

1) Chicago at Miami -6.5
2) Cleveland at Toronto -2.5
3) New York at Memphis -5.5
4) Oklahoma City at Minnesota -10.5
5) Charlotte at San Antonio +1.5
6) Charlotte at San Antonio +7.5
7) Dallas at Phoenix -4.5
8.) Portland at Sacramento -1.5

Share your picks now.  Smiley
1478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: October 17, 2022, 12:47:54 PM
Also, if his fight versus Errol Spence was not cancelled, some people might be making stretcher jokes about him.

That was after the fight of Pacman against Ugas, before AFAIR, Pacman has became a slight favorite on that fight per sportsbooks odds, so you can tell how much the fans believe he can win against Spence, but a big news came up and it resulted to Ugas substituting Spence which was not good for Pacman.

You are right because people were expecting Pacman could give a good fight against Spence, unfortunately, the hype was gone when Spence declared he needs to undergo an operation. However, I don't want to tolerate Pacman making excuses that he has a leg cramp during the fight causing him to move slow, he has to give credit to Ugas for beating him if he wants to come back, try to make a rematch on Ugas, and then go with Spence again.
1479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 17, 2022, 07:20:24 AM
^^ Yes, and a young age of 23 he has accomplished a lot, undisputed and without a lost, that is truly a amazing accomplishment for him. And I guess Kambosos is just one hit wonder and I doubt that he can be a champion again. He is a warrior no doubt, but against the best, I don't think he can win with the likes of Davis or Ryan Garcia. But it will be good to see him match against those two though. Just to have some excitement again. And now we are hype seeing this version of Haney against Lomachenko.
We never know, if Kambasos would stay in the current division, then he won't be a champion again, maybe it's time for him to move up and try his luck, but the way I see it, it looks like his full talent has already been displayed and he is not as great as the boxers whom fans admire and believed to be a future hall of famer.

What about a rematch between Kambosos and Lopez? I think that would be fun.

Yeah, maybe at 140 lbs we might see Kambosos vs Lopez again and it will be great because of the trash talking between the two. At least Teo will have something to say now because he has lost his belt to Haney.

It's just a bad stylistic match up for Kambosos and Haney just took him to school I might say. And definitely his style has been exposed and I feel bad for George losing back to back in his home soil. And so the hype on him is over. He might comeback with some win against no name fighters just to bring back his confidence again.

It's still early, he can continue fighting and redeem himself. More fights and training, for sure he will again have a big fight, a championship fight but of course as a fan, we won't trust him right away since we know his weakness already. Kambosos was still lucky to be a champion once, it's just that he choose the wrong opponent, his style has no match against Haney.
1480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29 on: October 17, 2022, 06:19:31 AM
Winning against Loma will indeed book him to more pay.

Ortiz won against Herring so that's a + of possibility after it he gained a shot against Loma who also need a tune up for his next fight.
Comparing the skills of the 2, Loma has the edge so it might be difficult to see an upset against someone who has the same skill set of Shakur. And for that the odds speaks itself.


As of now, the real basis is the odds, we can only see the real status between them once they are already in the ring. When Lopez fought Loma, Loma was also heavily favored, but personally, I don't think that will happen again here as I believe Loma had already learned his lesson.
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