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1481  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin starts to rise on: September 15, 2017, 02:52:37 PM
a few hours ago I noticed bitcoin had started to rise. and now it has reached $ 3409.97. What do you think ?

I heard that Chinese did not ban all exchanger instead they want make a new regulation in order to make a strict policy for bitcoin
Even if Chinese got ban, there are South Korean and Japanese which have bigger market since they are legalize bitcoin so do not make any panic sell, just stay cool and hold your bitcoin for sure !
1482  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin has power nowadays ? on: September 15, 2017, 09:23:48 AM
as increased use and demand for bitcoin has now made them dominate the crypto world. Many people invest in bitcoin because of its potential potential in a short time making bitcoin stronger by itself and People are beginning to treat bitcoin as a long-term investment that is increasing their demand. Bitcoin is getting stronger and bitcoin prices are also getting higher

As for now , bitcoin is crash down due Chinese ICO got ban but yeah.. as we know that bitcoin is risky investation so anything can happen so if you want to make profit, decide what do you want to choose ! Let say , if you want to be investor, keep hold your bitcoin no matter what happen, don't do any panic sell
1483  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: September 15, 2017, 08:55:59 AM
masih stress ngeliat harga btc saat ini, adakah harapan untuk bangkit lagi ke 60jtan bro
nyangkut semua dana ane di 60jtan , mau jual sekarang rasanya pengen nangis ngeliat harganya

Ane akan tetap Hold gan, tunggu sampai akhir tahun ini kita lihat bagaimana harganya ,
Kalau masih bertahan di 40 jutaan atau di bawahnya, maka cutloss mungkin jadi solusi.

ya kalau mau hold sih kuatnya harus sampai akhir tahun, harus kuat jangan dibuka market vip nya nanti suka ikutan panik. saya juga memilih hold sih, masa iya harga bitcoin mau jatuh lebih bawah, harusnya harga semakin mahal lah Cheesy

Saran saya tetap hold bitcoin walaupun harga bitcoin turun akibat China. Menurut saya pribadi, saya tetap percaya bahwa bitcoin akan tetap naik eventually. Memang butuh waktu dan proses agar bitcoin kembali naik seperti sedia kala dan bukan tak mungkin kalau akan naik lebih tinggi dari sebelum nya.

Bitcoin = investasi yang tak terduga !
1484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin and altcoin to fall further? on: September 15, 2017, 05:56:39 AM
Bitcoin is still falling down....again in last 24 hours it has fallen drastically...it has dropped down by 500USD....dont know how low will it gow down..i hope i become stable soon and start to go up again

As I know, Chinese decide to ban bitcoin on 30 September which causes this massive panic sell.
IMO , bitcoin will bubble again on October especially when segwit is coming on October , no need to sell you bitcoin since other country like Japanese and south Korea , have no issues about BTC
1485  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is everybody dumping Bitcoin? on: September 15, 2017, 04:02:22 AM
it's probably the beginner's players so they throw bitcoin afraid of bitcoin the more days it slumps down, so they are safer than losing a lot better off a little loss by the way of removing bitcoin from now on...

It's normal when Chinese holding 20% global market that will affect bitcoin value in world wide. As we know panic sell is inevitable but personally,  I keep hold my most bitcoin because I'm waiting for another segwit on October that will make bitcoin bubbling high !
1486  Economy / Economics / Re: dropping value on: September 15, 2017, 02:43:26 AM
The trade volume moved lower and now it's starting to bounce back up. Looks like it's already started a recovery. Just stay calm lol



Well it's look like panic sell is happening , of course it's reasonable since Chinese is holding 20% global market that will affect on bitcoin value
And now , I think the value make an adjustment ! As I can see that bitcoin value currently increase
1487  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I stop Buying BTC? on: September 14, 2017, 05:49:58 PM
Should I stop buying BTC for above market value or should I start paying the listed price? I support Bitcoin and still pay 5k a BTC does anyone see bitcoin going back up?

Yes, I'm still believe on bitcoin so I keep hold most of my bitcoin. Chinese issue may affect this fenomena but I'm sure there will be another momentum for bitcoin to going up higher than current highest on this year.
But it's up to you since as we all know that bitcoin is risky investation ( high risk high reward ! )
1488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I always lose all my tokens and btc on gambling~ on: September 14, 2017, 06:03:46 AM
I know how you feel mate, sometimes i did lose all my money ( i bet real money of sports). Feeling that i'm being cheated by some fucking underground power controls the game. So the right thing you have to do is stop gambling and working instead. Work is glory! good luck buddy.

If you earn some tokens via signature or bounty, you can use in gambling without any headache because that money came to you without big efforts.
Actually your advice good for gambling addicts but they has to realize this will never at all. If you bet in any site for sports means you may win but zero percentage win in dice game.

Somehow when I earn money from campaign , I really want to gamble especially when they launch massive promo that I can't resist to not play it
As I know that gambling always make you loss so that's why I always prepare for lossing rather than winning since I bet for fun
1489  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: September 14, 2017, 04:51:38 AM
There is no too late when it comes to opportunity. maybe we have different timelines in life. it doesn't mean that when others are already in to it you are already late

Maybe it's time for you to buy now since bitcoin value crashed down recently and for who keep bitcoin over 2 years, just hold it and try not to sell it except something urgent that forcing you to cut loss
Overall, I'm still trust that bitcoin able reach $ 10.000 on next year so I keep hold it no matter what happen
1490  Economy / Speculation / Re: Just about 20 million. Wait and watch it REALLY explode... on: September 13, 2017, 03:07:30 PM
I'm not expecting to get rich, but I'll take $10,000/BTC 31DEC18. LOL! I like the tech and believe in BTC, and have held since 2015. I'm retired and purchased 100BTC then, so I can live off of 10%ROI. 100%ROI/year would be $weet, though...

Just like this moment, people kinda afraid whenever they still want to hold bitcoin or cut loss !
But IMO based on bitcoin graph over 7 years, bitcoin always show a good movement from time to time so I'm just keep hold it as long as possible
1491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children on: September 13, 2017, 08:59:28 AM
They will never understand it. Children and teens do not want to know how a currency works or any detail, they will find it boring, they can not bother, most adults can not, let the kids and For teens, focus on making bitcoin work as expected by the average person.


I think bitcoin better be introduce earlier so they can understand more quickly and on the future , they can develop more bitcoin feature like never before. And for other side, they can manage to earn some money in different way so the oppurtunity is open widely
1492  Other / Off-topic / Re: bitcointalk Bounty millionaires. do they exist? on: September 13, 2017, 02:26:44 AM
I think most of people here already active and exist on crypto world and they see bitcointalk forum potential in order to attract new people to join their ICO
And as we know, not just 1 or 2 people but many people may bring their project to new bounty on this forum

thanks all for sharing your comments and experiences, it makes an inspiring read to understand and learn from the experiences of our seniors and make us more motivated and part of this community.

also wanted to query, do many of the folks on btcforum on it full time or just join in your free time?
1493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: THE BEST BITCOIN WALLET on: September 12, 2017, 04:18:48 PM
If you don't have much money to buy a coldstorage wallet I think Electrum is the best option for you cause it's an offline wallet that mean you can totally control all your bitcoin because you're the only one have your wallet private key, if you use web wallet it's still fine but with some web wallet you have to pay too much for transaction fee but with Electrum you can set up the amount of transaction fee you wanna pay.

Before I use electrum, I always use blockchain as main wallet !
But after blockchain decide to disable pay to many feature, I changed my main wallet into electrum since it's smooth and have many feature that I'm looking for
1494  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will be worth $20,000-55,000 by the year of 2022 on: September 12, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
All we have to do is just wait. Because who knows what will really happen after 5 years. Just be positive.

Based on Harvard community calculation, it's possible because every year , bitcoin show a promosing value every year
So as long as I'm believe on bitcoin, I can hold at least 1 btc for next 4 year since when you're act as investor, profit are greater rather than trader
1495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: September 12, 2017, 07:23:24 AM
I planned to keep my bitcoin to pay all my debts and to finance my needs because I wanted to have a quiet and well-established life in the economy for the future

Bitcoin provide alternate way to save money. When I still not met bitcoin, I'm invest on gold but the profit is not increase in 1 year instead it's require some time but when I use bitcoin, it really read my expectation as future investment that I'm looking for
1496  Economy / Gambling / Re: A non-martingale PrimeDice script! So far so good! on: September 12, 2017, 05:19:23 AM
Good day All!

I have made a stable LAU script (for DiceBot) after a month of testing everything from martingale (always lose) to probability sniping (which always made you lose your whole balance in two losing bets). The script I have doesn't succumb to losing streaks as it defaults to betting zero in such cases. It profits on 3x winning streaks (4 and up seems to be more unstable).
Feel free to edit the script!  Grin

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Is it possible for me to doing martiangle 33% ?

it is gambling,
who can guarantee you a profit ? nobody!
if someone can do that,there'll be no one gonna open a gambling/casino site.
because no matter what the house will be win in the end.
so,it's pure of luck and if you're using automatic bet iam 100% you will get busted.
all of your bankroll will be wiped out by the house
You are definitely right. This is what almost all the gamblers sitting around the globe believe in. As far as money is coming in their accounts, they are very much happy with it. I think it is all and all their luck which comes into play, there is no other rocket science which can earn you money in gambling.

People may experiment with their own gameplay in order to get profit but yes that's true , you need many method in order to get profit since you will loss eventually in long run if you're using same method
1497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: September 11, 2017, 04:18:59 PM
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It's an advantage for the house and it is the reason why they operate. They know the gambling industry has this type of customers and they are taking the chance to earn money from these loyal gamblers that never stops to pursue the nature of those gamblers.

But all of them depend on luck whenever player want to gamble or gambling owner decide to operate in some spesific way in order to gain new gambler every time they need.
As a gambler, I need a great and trust site so when I win or loss, I'm feel satisfy and happy when I visit the site every day
1498  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: September 11, 2017, 05:54:01 AM
Its hard to believe that everyone will start using bitcoins in next 5 years time and the reality is that bitcoin has not reached everywhere yet and it will take long time for that to happen as of now there are many people who have not even heard about bitcoins so expecting that everyone will start using seems to be impossible but in next 5 years there will be many more people that will start using bitcoins for sure.

Let say if bitcoin able exist until 2020 , there will be a lot of millinaire. I think it's too good to be true as IMO if you're an bitcoin investor, just hold it as  long as possible and keep your faith on bitcoin since bitcoin bring a revolution for world wide transaction
1499  Economy / Economics / Re: The panic seller irony on: September 10, 2017, 01:24:33 PM
I'm usually hold my bitcoin as long as possible that why I'm consider as investor but there is a risk beneath it
For example being investor may have great profit if you hold it in long term but if bitcoin vanish before let say 2019 , we are loss !
1500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is China manipulating the price of Bitcoin and other altcoins? on: September 10, 2017, 01:18:46 PM
I think there are no such thing as controlling bitcoin, they may manipulate the value of it but totally controlling it is a no, I think this trending fake news must stop now, the damage is done and this is what they want right now so many in there can buy bitcoin from this crash, right now the value drops to $4000 mark value, but we are now regaining the wits to make the value goes up again and wish this keeps on rising, because I can really see that $4000 value is our safe floor right now.

I think China able control bitcoin global market since China start legalize bitcoin as well and when CHina's ICO got ban, bitcoin's value got decrease up to 10%
I hope there is some adjustment that able to recover bitcoin in normal position
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