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14941  Other / Politics & Society / First movie or TV show with Bitcoin on: May 25, 2013, 05:19:33 AM
You name it.

What will it be?

What is the bitcoin's relation to the plot?
14942  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Schumer: It’s time to go after the 3-D printable guns on: May 25, 2013, 04:44:50 AM
...3D PRINTED DOGS!  Hell, yeah!!!
I can't find the pattern for that. Besides, only if it prints puppies. Can you imagine the cost of printing full grown English Mastiffs? (grin)
They are the best.  I seriously started to buy a couple, but then didn't.  Got to worrying about how to fit the couches in by the TV.  And also, how to get them to a vet if they got sick or old and it was necessary to carry them.  Looked like a job for about four guys and a pickup.

What you could seriously print would be dog toys....have to check on plastics compatibility with dog digestion, of course.
14943  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Schumer: It’s time to go after the 3-D printable guns on: May 25, 2013, 04:41:38 AM
...3D PRINTED DOGS!  Hell, yeah!!!
I can't find the pattern for that. Besides, only if it prints puppies. Can you imagine the cost of printing full grown English Mastiffs? (grin)
They are the best.  I seriously started to buy a couple, but then didn't.  Got to worrying about how to fit the couches in by the TV.  And also, how to get them to a vet if they got sick or old and it was necessary to carry them.  Looked like a job for about four guys and a pickup.
14944  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Schumer: It’s time to go after the 3-D printable guns on: May 25, 2013, 02:00:59 AM
I'm not a good shot. Personally, I think before any home invaders get past our two English Mastiffs we keep inside because they are our other "kids," the police will have responded to our call and the operator will be on the phone asking us to put the dogs up so the officers can take an incident report. I will stipulate that the care and feeding of the "kids" is probably more expensive than handgun practice and maintenance. Hey! 3D printed dog food! hmm...(grin)
Why go half way. 

Don't be timid. 

It's ookay.

3D PRINTED DOGS! 

Hell, yeah!!!
14945  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [video] Obama speechless as Code Pink founder heckles over Gitmo on: May 24, 2013, 04:26:06 PM
Leaders are always going to get people killed because of their decisions, that's why I think we don't need them, they also tend to be the ones who are expected to take the blame for everything too.
As long as there are people then there will be people killing other people.

The job of leaders of state, as concerns the topic of killing, is to minimize the number of people from their country that are killed by people from other countries.

It is the nature of human kind that some people like to be in control of other people AND that some people are happy to let someone else do the heavy lifting of making the world go round.  So if the world ever evolves/descends to a state of statelessness (no borders) AND there are any people still in existence then I am afraid we will still have leaders of some type.  And one of the jobs of those leaders will be to minimize the number of their constituents that are killed by the constituents of other leaders.  Part of that will entail killing people under those other leaders.

Drones in the air without boots on the ground and clear military objectives is tactically the identical problem Nixon made with B52s....

Offering opinions about "killing people" without the other factors listed is implicitly an acceptance of the problem, rather than it's use as a solution.

EG, political killing can never, ever succeed, while military operations certainly can.  Incidentally, some of the drones are operated by the CIA.
14946  Economy / Economics / Re: Energy consumption could become an issue if bitcoin really breaks through on: May 24, 2013, 03:56:38 PM
There is no CO2 problem.
Global Warming craze is a scam.

Humans can tolerate up to 4% of CO2 in the air.
A lot of CO2 will be good for plants.
More plants == more food for humans.
more humans == more slaves for us.
Et cetera ...

Hmm....maybe not 4%, that'd be 40,000 ppm, and we are currently < 400 ppm.  Seems like 7000 ppm is the max IIRC.  So but yeah, your point is that weed would grow better with the higher CO2...

OOPS, never mind.  I see you were referring to food.
14947  Economy / Economics / Re: Energy consumption could become an issue if bitcoin really breaks through on: May 24, 2013, 03:53:07 PM
Synechococcus bacteria, solves the problem of too much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, we found the answer to this problem years ago.
Even if that would be true and these bacteria would solve our CO2 problem without causing even worse side effects (hear my doubt?), there would still be the other side of energy supply: limited resources.

gotta start building a dyson sphere or two  Wink
I looked at those a while back and determined that the physics was flawed, stress strain and tidal forces would never allow such a thing to exist.  It's a real shame because the Matrioska brains could provide us with lots  of free beer.

14948  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Schumer: It’s time to go after the 3-D printable guns on: May 24, 2013, 03:02:40 PM
Schumer....is that Italian?

Feinstein is I think....

It's Jewish.  They're Jews.  That's why all they ever do is oppose freedom, sell America out to foreigners and give tax money to banks and insurance companies.

Jews are behind gun control.

Darn!  Those evil jooooooeeess!  They hate guns!  They want to take guns away!
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01546/bikini-gun-girl_1546417a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4425657/Israeli-soldier-on-the-beach-in-a-bikini-holding-a-gun.html&h=592&w=532&sz=78&tbnid=CkL3ksBIeftFYM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=81&zoom=1&usg=__YZGs5ic7Xwo1HZdXfYgQBYGPIa8=&docid=0jx_D1EHQCC9FM&sa=X&ei=5ICfUarLN4n_qwG92YGAAQ&ved=0CDMQ9QEwAA&dur=4918

Wait...
14949  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Schumer: It’s time to go after the 3-D printable guns on: May 24, 2013, 02:57:54 PM
Home made handguns are boring. They are not that much more effective than a knife or an axe. But handguns are only the beginning.

When people start to print armed helicopter drones, things are going to get interesting.

No way, that could never happen!

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:36752

wait....
14950  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Bitcoin Philanthropist Award on: May 24, 2013, 04:27:23 AM
Would anyone be interested in starting a "Church of Development". Where "god" is "the future", and we worship by making it better. Basically just a developmental coin charity that religiously works towards the future.

I am a certified minister and I will work to get non-profit status in my state, but here is the base for the organization, I already have 200 members:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213405.0

If anyone wants to get married or exercise demons, I can legally do the ceremony Smiley

I would like to be exorcised of a very insidious demon, who goes by the initials USD. 

14951  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Russian women more promiscuous? on: May 23, 2013, 11:23:28 PM
I might be persuaded to undertake such a difficult research study within the UK  Roll Eyes (jk!)

Given the high rate of vodka consumption in Russia, it would be important to establish a neutral control group.  This could be done by taking American college students (many other groups would do, but these would be conveniently located and able/willing to engage in the testing process) and submitting them to a series of encounters which consisted of inebriating doses of vodka followed by sexual advances.

This would of course be explained to them as being in the interests of the greater good of mankind including it's essential relationship to whether the planet was going to burn up from global warming.

The results of this testing process could then be compared to Russian women in their native habitat, after adjusting the Russian group for similar age, educational levels, body type, hair color, and other statistically relevant factors.

so you prefer blondes too? :O)
That is a good question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcdmq07u2T8
14952  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Stability Police Force For The United States on: May 23, 2013, 07:01:38 PM

So what's your point?  The armed forces need to/should have a vast array of contingency plans, many of which are not pretty. 
14953  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoins : currency or collectibles ? on: May 23, 2013, 12:35:51 PM

So you sent money from Eastern Europe to Japan where it was used to buy Bitcoin.  Talk to your neighbours and ask them if that is the normal way to get a currency?  It isn't.  While people have to jump through so many hoops to get Bitcoin, they will be mainly collectibles.  And when a retail solution is found, the currency will get to its true market value and work as a currency.  For example, Poles in England will be able to send their earnings to their families in Poland far cheaper than they do now.

I would guess most people have never done an international wire transfer and would be completely scared of anything like that.  It does not mean it is complicated, but it is simply outside their warm fuzzy blanket of feelings.

A good question here would be the history of Paypal.  Buying and selling on ebay, people received credits and debits for Paypal.  Some did more sales than purchases, others the reverse.  Money flowed into the Paypal system and circulated.   After the ins and outs of the transfers, a net balance gradually built up in the system.

Very similar process occurring with bitcoin. Some may not know or remember this, but moving money into and out of Paypal at the first was not easy for many people.  For example, my teenage son, with no bank account, did this by getting money orders and mailing them to paypal.  Then he started building up his balance by selling CDs on ebay and taking paypal.

The difference between Paypal and Bitcoin, which is easy to point out, is that for an appreciating asset such as Bitcoin, the balance build up in the virtual economy will be accelerated.  With a depreciating asset such as the USD or most others, by design one is encouraged to spend it .... eg, trade it for goods or services.
14954  Economy / Economics / Re: Japan. The Yen. The Hyperinflation. on: May 23, 2013, 02:24:29 AM
This lady has been putting out nice updates about the Japanese situation:

http://youtu.be/AR3TyfKTeNE

TL;DR; Parasitic rich investors/hedge funds are using near-zero interest rates to borrow from Japan and buying high-yield assets (carry trade) like the european bonds. This will suppress the prices of non-yielding assets like gold and yen and add to the housing/bond bubble. However, there's a high risk that sometime in the near future people will stop accepting the rapidly declining yen and stop buying Japanese Goverment Bonds(JGB) because the yield/risk ratio is off. This should trigger:

  a) hyper-inflation if Bank of Japan(BOJ) continues easing and buys even a bigger share of JGBs
  b) dramatic increase in japanese bond yields (interest rates) that would pretty much destroy the japanese economy that is already spending a large portion of their GDP on interest payments

Bonus: Japan has been the biggest external buyer of US Treasury Bonds(T-Bonds). Once the shit hits the fan domestically, they probably have to stop this. This means that T-Bond yields will increase -> interest rates will increase and the same scenario could take place in the US.
Well basically, none of what you said is true, or accurate, in the causal sense, or in the layout of the factors of the situation.

All the major currencies are sinking together, the effect of a dramatic drop in one is similar to poking your finger at an inflated balloon.  The effects are seen in the overall dimensional space, which is not linear a-->b event space.
14955  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS APOLOGIZES FOR TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS on: May 23, 2013, 01:46:44 AM
Well, some of us out in the real world were warning about letting gangsters from Chicago into the White House.  

Quite a while back.  Back around 2008.

So who wants to laugh about the Tea Party, all those stupid tea baggers, knuckle dragging morons from the deep south, religious nutcase whackos,  now?  

(TEA = Taxed enough already)

Good job, much appreciated. I reside outside of US, but otherwise I would have joined the action I'm sure.

The middle-class has been squashed and lost it's voice. Lower-class relies on the foodstamps and will vote for more, no matter the cost. Higher-class has the wealth to lobby and exercise dubious tax planning. It's sad that middle class, who's carrying the biggest burden of taxes, has no say in taxation nor has the power to avoid them.

But then again, the disappearance of the middle class has often been followed by the total collapse of the empire. Hope we are getting very close to this; the world would be much better off without the US and the IMF.
Not necessarily  better, generally, argument of the sort "anything is better than XYZ" tends to be false.  Tell you what, how about skip the argument, just get those morons chanting "hope and change" without even telling them what the change is. 

Wait, which morons are those......

It's hard to say this but I am okay with their part of the middle class being hollowed out and impoverished.  Unfortunately, there is massive collateral damage in such cases such as all those on pensions. 

Economically, though, you are correct.  Once the middle class is impoverished, that government's taxing ability is so reduced that necessary contractions occur.

Forced government contraction:  Russia, 1992....
14956  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin - powered by greed? on: May 22, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion – when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that it does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot.

Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men's protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it becomes, marked: 'Account overdrawn.

You stand in the midst of the greatest achievements of the greatest productive civilization and you wonder why it's crumbling around you, while you're damning its life-blood – money. You look upon money as the savages did before you, and you wonder why the jungle is creeping back to the edge of your cities. Throughout men's history, money was always seized by looters of one brand or another, but whose method remained the same: to seize wealth by force and to keep the producers bound, demeaned, defamed, deprived of honor. That phrase about the evil of money, which you mouth with such righteous recklessness, comes from a time when wealth was produced by the labor of slaves – slaves who repeated the motions once discovered by somebody's mind and left unimproved for centuries. So long as production was ruled by force, and wealth was obtained by conquest, there was little to conquer. Yet through all the centuries of stagnation and starvation, men exalted the looters, as aristocrats of the sword, as aristocrats of birth, as aristocrats of the bureau, and despised the producers, as slaves, as traders, as shopkeepers – as industrialists.

To the glory of mankind, there was, for the first and only time in history, a country of money – and I have no higher, more reverent tribute to pay to America, for this means: a country of reason, justice, freedom, production, achievement. For the first time, man's mind and money were set free, and there were no fortunes-by-conquest, but only fortunes-by-work, and instead of swordsmen and slaves, there appeared the real maker of wealth, the greatest worker, the highest type of human being – the self-made man – the American industrialist.

If you ask me to name the proudest distinction of Americans, I would choose – because it contains all the others – the fact that they were the people who created the phrase 'to make money'. No other language or nation had ever used these words before; men had always thought of wealth as a static quantity – to be seized, begged, inherited, shared, looted, or obtained as a favor. Americans were the first to understand that wealth has to be created. The words 'to make money' hold the essence of human morality.

Yet these were the words for which Americans were denounced by the rotted cultures of the looters' continents. Now the looters' credo has brought you to regard your proudest achievements as a hallmark of shame, your prosperity as guilt, your greatest men, the industrialists, as blackguards, and your magnificent factories as the product and property of muscular labor, the labor of whip-driven slaves, like the pyramids of Egypt. The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the power of the Bitcoin and the power of the whip, ought to learn the difference on his own hide – as, I think, he will.

Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns – or Bitcoins. Take your choice. There is no other.

And your time is running out.

What do you think?  Would a beer named Greed sell?

Hell yes I think it would!

Honey, going down to the store? Pick up a six pack of Greed, will ya?  We're going to have some fun.
14957  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS APOLOGIZES FOR TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS on: May 22, 2013, 11:26:11 PM
Just listen to this fucker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8WNgbRGcRQ

Hope he gets jailed and can no longer choose even yes/no when the prisoners take turns on him.

Well, some of us out in the real world were warning about letting gangsters from Chicago into the White House. 

Quite a while back.  Back around 2008.

So who wants to laugh about the Tea Party, all those stupid tea baggers, knuckle dragging morons from the deep south, religious nutcase whackos,  now? 

(TEA = Taxed enough already)
14958  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS APOLOGIZES FOR TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS on: May 22, 2013, 08:24:55 PM
So is this really a "conservative vs less-conservative" issue as some in the thread imply or is the larger issue about waste, fraud and abuse in government generally?  'Cause God knows conservative groups in America are gonna ride this all the way through the next election cycle as if no conservative-run government has ever done the same sorts of things.  Outrage about this specific incident should be more broadly directed otherwise it's just more of the same partisan crap.

Following the wise advice to never fight your enemy when he's engaged in shooting himself in the foot, I don't think any particular work is in order.  Maybe except fixing a big heap of popcorn.  An extra large biggie supply, dripping with real butter and high in salt.  Then it's time to watch the circus.

The problem with useful idiots is of course that they are, well,....

idiots....

I mean, we've got the IRS thing, the AP thing, the Fast and Furious thing, Bengazi.  

What the FUCK???
Business as usual.  Here are 34 Bush-era scandals to stimulate conversation.  Oh, and BTW, this was just the first 4 years.

http://www.salon.com/2005/01/18/scandal_11/
You did in fact provide a link to 'business as usual scandals.'

I don't think any of my friends in Mexico consider their 300 some dead killed with Fast and Furious weapons to be 'business as usual'.

And I'm sorry, but similarly, Bengazi does not fall within any stretch of business as usual.

So rather than providing the answer - you've clarified the problem.
I'm sorry for your friends in Mexico. But it pales in comparison to the nearly 5,000 troops and 120,000 civilians killed in Iraq, including both my little brother and my best friend.  A war started based on fabricated evidence of weapons of mass destruction.  Not defending either F&F or Benghazi--just saying obviously partisan outrage adds to the problem.  So what's your solution?  I'm saying that if Obama resigned tomorrow absolutely nothing would change so fight the real problem.
My sympathies for you in the loss of your brother and friend.

The death count for the border drug war last time I checked was approaching 10,000, so yes, it's an ignored problem of significant magnitude.

You claimed "business as usual", I refuted that with respect to F&F and Benghazi.  Now we're going to talk about Iraq and WMD?   This is called "shifting the goalposts".

I don't really have a problem with that, given that you admit that this is erroneous ....  Nothing about F&F or Bengazi constitutes "business as usual."  Different things can be read into that....WH fascist inclinations, total incompetence, etc....but it sure as fuck isn't business as usual...
14959  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Russian women more promiscuous? on: May 22, 2013, 08:14:43 PM
I might be persuaded to undertake such a difficult research study within the UK  Roll Eyes (jk!)

Given the high rate of vodka consumption in Russia, it would be important to establish a neutral control group.  This could be done by taking American college students (many other groups would do, but these would be conveniently located and able/willing to engage in the testing process) and submitting them to a series of encounters which consisted of inebriating doses of vodka followed by sexual advances.

This would of course be explained to them as being in the interests of the greater good of mankind including it's essential relationship to whether the planet was going to burn up from global warming.

The results of this testing process could then be compared to Russian women in their native habitat, after adjusting the Russian group for similar age, educational levels, body type, hair color, and other statistically relevant factors.
14960  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin "reserve" currency on: May 22, 2013, 12:49:40 AM
In the world of fiat, the US Dollar is the world reserve currency.  If you were to pick a reserve currency for the bitcoin, which would you pick?  Obviously, the ideal would be to not need one, but if we get to that state of the economy, it will be many years from now.

My vote would go to the Icelandic krona since Iceland seems fairly anti-banking as a country.

I'm not sure your question makes sense.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency
Quote
A reserve currency, or anchor currency, is a currency that is held in significant quantities by many governments and institutions as part of their foreign exchange reserves.

It might make sense for bitcoin to BE a reserve currency, but it doesn't make sense for it to HAVE a reserve currency since it is neither a government nor an institution.

Right, I clearly need to explain myself better in these forums.

I meant it in a somewhat different term than the traditional use the term reserve currency since you're right, the term doesn't make sense for bitcoins.  But in most places, you can't pay all your bills with bitcoins, so what I meant was if you had to pick a currency to choose as a preferred currency to exchange from bitcoins -> fiat, which would you prefer? 
people across the world can not pay their bills with the USD reserve currency,, either.

they pay with their local currency.

but think about it.

the bitcoin could become the PEOPLE'S reserve currency.
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