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1541  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks do not want bitcoin to become popular on: December 09, 2022, 10:22:39 PM
This is nothing too new to discuss and everyone knows this, the bank is the agency representing the government so it is not strange that they take advantage of this bear season to spread FUDS for bitcoin. But this won't make them better than bitcoin, no need to FUDS for bitcoin to drop more because a lot of people are expecting bitcoin to drop to buy more.

The holders of bitcoin know that bitcoin is here to stay despite all the negative fuds and news being spread on every social media and crypto news related sites. These banks and governments will do everything to make us believe that there is no future of bitcoin.

I understand that old people who know about bitcoin will not listen to them but there are so many new investors who invested in bitcoin 2021 and later. They may sell their holding when they see such news from everywhere. This is propaganda being done on purpose and the government is also spending funds to publish such news on the media.

I would only say, let the weak hand shake out and bitcoin will come in stronger hands. Those who are selling do not know that the whales are getting this bitcoins cheap from retail and getting ready for the next bull run.
1542  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 09, 2022, 05:07:08 PM
the competition got really intense.

Exactly, which is also fun at the same time because this is 1/8 finals and any one sided match is pretty lame for world cup. Imagine having to go through the extra time just to win or penalty shootout instead of scoring 5-6 goals on a one sided game. Anyway, I bet on clean sheet on 35th minutes for Croatia because I thought this will be a stalemate between these two


Today match was boring - No team has been able to perform goal
Anthony made a disappointing hit on the corner - near the end of the game. The time is about to end. And no goal yet.

I do not agree that the match is boring between Brazil and Croatia.  Brazil has so many attempts to goal, but Croatia denied them all the time. The match was a high voltage one and Brazil had attack after attack on the Croatian goal, but didn't find one.

The full time did not bring any goal but still i enjoyed the game. Extra time is in progress, and it seems that eiter Brazil may make a decisive goal or this match may go into the Plenty kicks.

Just for the information, both teams have good plenty records and it will be anyone's game if we see the match goes that further.
1543  Economy / Economics / Re: FTX Drama and Global Empact on: December 07, 2022, 11:38:44 PM
FTX Chapter 11 is a scandalous event in the cryptocurrency world.  FTX's position as a centalized exchange was after Binance exchange.  There were millions of users from different countries of the world. This exchange has stolen almost $10 billion worth of crypto from customers.  Which has changed enough in the economic standards of different countries of the world.


FTX scam would have long lasting effect on the crypto market and it may take many months for the crypto users to absorb this loss and move on. Also, it will engage regulations to enforce more restrictions on cryptocurrencies especially on the exchanges.



Also, i thought it has users from united states, so i had to google and it was seperate operation. So i guess my question is that is FTX.US totally off the hook? How they or their us customers are not affected when 130+ companies are?

Yes, this proves that FTX is just playing around with people's money. It was just one tweet by CZ which created panic among the people. So people wanted to withdraw their funds from the exchanges. Receiving so many queries regarding withdrawals, the FTX was unable to handle them as they never had kept the user funds with themselves???
1544  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or altcoin? on: December 07, 2022, 11:17:18 PM
Leaving sentiments asides, will you advise someone to still buy some Bitcoins (Not up to the value of 1)  if they have an amount of money that will be okay to purchase the equivalent of 1 of a good altcoin with a strong community? Is having some bitcoins (in decimals) more valuable still than having the value of one good altcoin?
I never recommend anyone because I'm not a financial or economics expert, but I usually just share what I have, namely bitcoin, even though it's only a decimal fraction, at least it's cooler than holding altcoin units, which one time could have problems, for example the LUNA case

Bitcoin is a truly decentralized currency and therefore we see that the majority of the market cap is taken by bitcoin. You should own bitcoin, there is no second thought about it.
Altcoins are made by people to gain money, i would call most altcoins are developed by greedy developers to get the bitcoin from the people and give them useless altcoins which have the risk of going to zero at any time.
1545  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why We People Cannot Think Like Whales 🐋 🐳? on: December 07, 2022, 04:55:17 PM
1) Many Of Small traders always got into the Trap of Whales? Why?

Well, retail investors do not think like whales because the whales have long term vision and most small traders are happy to get little profit. That's the reason in case of a bullish rally the retails usually sell early while whales have their big targets.

In bear times, retail are fearful and do not buy at cheap rates while the whales accumulate in these fearful times. There is a difference in the approach between retail and whales and that is the main reason why whales always win over small investors.
1546  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin December price on: December 07, 2022, 04:05:04 PM
It has been a week in December and it seems that there will be no big movement that occurs, maybe the maximum price range is $ 18K and the lowest $ 16K, but this is good for daily trading because it can get a profit of 3% per day or more. So always think positively.

Well, I think we may see some positive momentum in bitcoin near 13 or 14 December as the next CPI data will be released on 13 December and experts are saying that the figures will be in favor of the crypto investors, and we might see some positive momentum in bitcoin. However, I don't think we can expect a permanent upwards move unless bitcoin crosses 22.5K or 23K level, although there will be a major resistance between the range of 28k to 30K.
1547  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Is Approaching $17000 on: December 07, 2022, 03:27:58 PM
Bitcoin closed November price at $17.1k and started December at the same price based on UTC time update. Now Bitcoin is trading at $16.9k and was trading at $17,050 at 12:15 PM according to the CMC chart.

We are still waiting to see what will happen in December and the price of $17k is still a price that will hold on despite the difficulties in the market.
It is highly probable that the price will cross the $17k to be traded this week.
The best price range during december is $17K to $20K, I think that's more convincing than going down to find the lowest price. $17K will be support as bitcoin price strengthens in December so I think we will soon leave strong $16K support untouched.

However the FTX case will continue to impact the bitcoin price in the market for the rest of the year so the possibility of a rebound to $20K is hard to imagine. Bitcoin needs more support and trust after the FTX crash hit crypto, so it's taking a while to get back to $20K. But now that market conditions are looking much better than the start of the FTX crash, this is a positive.
The market is currently showing a positive movement even though the increase is still a small percentage of around 1.7%. I agree with you that $17K was price support in December.

The incident that happened to FTX was unavoidable which had a huge effect on lowering the overall price of the crypto. But if we look at the market situation has started to improve. Of course it will take time and other support to get back to normal as we hope for at least this December to be back at $20K.

The opening of Bitcoin market in green this morning after weekend, is definitely encouraging for market participants but we need to wait for opening of US market in the evening to see this positive trend continues and price is consolidated above 17K during the current week, then we might see Bitcoin moving towards 20K in coming weeks, if decaling trend in inflation continues in coming months.

Even though the market open positively on Monday and bitcoin was trading above 17K giving hope to the bitcoin traders but today on Wednesday we are back under 16900$.

There is no momentum in the bitcoin price, and we see no buying pressure at the moment. Maybe investors are not so confident to invest in bitcoin at this stage or they are anticipating more dump in bitcoin price.
1548  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: December 06, 2022, 09:17:36 PM
Honestly? Not right now. I am fine for keeping it to myself, or even share with friends to joke about it, but to improve with feedback requires me to not know where to improve or what to improve first, right now I am aware that people are doing much better job than me and I am not going to just get it on roobet art competition and humiliate myself Cheesy I know its not there yet. Eventually I will get good enough to just give it a shot, when I hit minimum of that level, I will just post it here knowing I won't win but at least I will get a good feedback and that will help me, I am just waaaay below that right now.

No one is perfect and there is no harm in trying your art skills in the Roobet competition. If you think that seeing your art people will make fun of you and you will be humiliated, then you are wrong. I have never seen anyone saying cheap words to people whose art work is ordinary.

From my point of view, not everyone can win this competition but if you have a love for art, you should participate and give
your best shot. Smiley
1549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in Casino tokens such as BFG, OWL or TFS on: December 06, 2022, 09:00:39 PM
what are your assessment to HUNNY tokens?
they have 65% APR here are the list of pools https://hunny.finance/#/pools
found out they have multiple projects like hunnyplay.com and hunnypoker.com

you can see i'm wearing the signature. its logical to just shill it here presumably the users in this thread are more than likely interested to casino tokens like this one. history shows that the price ATH last year was $1.36. now its down to $0.006. it must be the bottom.


From 1.36$ to 0.006$? Bro that's scary, most good altcoins withstand 0.01$ minimum from such ATH, this shows that gambling tokens are more volatile than mid range popular altcoins, anyway this is also a good entry point but God only knows if price will see ATH again in future.

We are talking about OWL, TFS, BFG and other popular gambling sites token like FUN token. I never heard of this HUNNY token but prices of all the tokens are at floor level and are almost 80 to 90% down from their all-time high prices. In bear market, when bitcoin s almost 80% down from its all time high, we can expect the same price dump in all the coins.

If the project is not ended or a scam like Luna or FTX, then all these tokens will grow in the future when the market will recover. In order to invest in any gambling token, first study their project. If the project has potential, the site token will surely grow in the future.
1550  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What should be my fear? on: December 06, 2022, 08:42:22 PM
As a newbie who has a little knowledge of cryptocurrency but much interest in purchasing bitcoin for a long time Hodl, since the purchasing capital is not included in my spendable budget and the price of bitcoin is not very high at the moment 16k, what should be my fear?

Pls, advise me.

The only fear for you is to have little knowledge of cryptocurrency and this may result in a big loss for you. Even though as per your writing you do not want to trade bitcoin, you only want to hold bitcoin with the extra money which you have but due to lack of knowledge, you may be at risk.
You may not know how and where to save your crypto and bitcoin. You also need to know how to safeguard your seed phrases and what are the different types of wallets. There are so many phishing attempts that you should be aware of. So I would advise you to first get knowledge about bitcoin and then buy and store bitcoin for long term holding.
1551  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Brazil Has Approved Bill Recognizing Bitcoin As a Payment Method. on: December 06, 2022, 08:20:16 PM
The news of Brazil accepting Bitcoin as a payment method represents a huge win for Bitcoin in the long run. This move will bring Bitcoin to the attention of more countries and use by more people, making Bitcoin grow on a global scale. In the future, more other countries may accept Bitcoin as a legal payment method.
The same use of Bitcoin will also have a positive impact on the Brazilian economy, benefiting the people of the entire country and making them more free.

Slowly and surely more countries will accept bitcoin and one day we may see bitcoin as a global payment method around the world.

We may see new countries becoming the economic leader in the future who will adopt bitcoin early while the giant nations of today whose governments are resistant to accepting bitcoin or trying to ban bitcoin may remain behind financially and economically.
1552  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Will there ever be any safe centralised exchange ? on: December 05, 2022, 07:29:05 PM
I was wondering if there could still be any safe centralised exchange in the blockchain industry. Of lately lots have been unveiling itself and centralisedexchanges are at the end of it all.  Does it mean that these centralised exchanges that are in existence lacks the capability to safeguard assets and funds after attracting investors and traders to their platforms for engagement and activities?
 How do you explain these things to the people whom have entrusted their funds and assets to you for safe keeping hoping that what they gave to you is under safe care only to wake up to a sad news of their assets being stolen by hackers. How do you explain all these.

At first identifying the problem is a basic course for rendering solutions. If these problems are not identified immediately by the exchanges for quick remedy then who's to be blamed for it. Do they really do constant check on their service to know their lapses, if they do, do they identify it immediately with utmost attention? Do they do a constant check and evaluation on their staff and  mechanisms.

With all these said, what are your opinions on this subject matter as I feel this needs to be looked into for possible measures to be taken for  so as to further prevent or minimise the rate at which exchanges get hacked or being careless with investors and traders funds.
Centralized exchanges are not safe anymore so people should not be placing their funds on it. Not just because of the FTX event, but because centralized exchanges have low level of security and privacy which means our money will be in high danger if they will remained in them in the long run.

Centralized Exchanges can only be safe to some extent if they are regulated by the government or any governing body. Only then the exchange will have the fear of a court of law and they won't scam or play with people's money. If, for example, ftx was under any regulating body they would have sufficient funds with them to repay the clients. Also, such exchanges should be audited by the 3rd party auditors to keep the transparency of the exchange.
1553  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How important is BTC to the Society? on: December 05, 2022, 06:46:07 PM
For a society that is advancing through technology it could make a big change. When something gives transpreency, automatically things will happen good without any kind of corruption taking place in the process. This itself a big thing in an organisation or society. This is not the only change it can do, there are more things done by bitcoin to make everything effective.

Not only Bitcoin but blockchain technology is beneficial for society. The biggest problem in underdeveloped countries is corruption and if we store data using blockchain technology there will be no or very little chance of corruption.
I would suggest government to start incorporating both bitcoin and blockchain technology as this will help the countries grow and this technology is even more useful for the underdeveloped world.
1554  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST.io🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶PLAY 📈INVEST➡🔺🎲🎰🔲 | BET CONTEST ▄■▀■▄ on: December 05, 2022, 06:29:24 PM
I know this site is one of the best and trusted site before there are many big whales who played but after some issue. Then some gamblers decided to minimize thier bet but now there are many gamblers still gamble in this site it because now Lightlord refill the hot wallet that can sustain the gamblers withdrawals. And so far there are no big complains about so that's means that this casino runs as good as before.
bitvest is one of the oldest casino gambling sites in this forum, I believe lightlord is a trusted developer. I'm just wondering why lightlord doesn't develop bitvest into a more interesting gambling site because I see the UI and UX looks boring

if bitvest renews bitvest and also adds other marketing programs then I'm sure user trust in bitvest will rise again

Lightlord has been away from this forum and there was a period when people complained that withdrawals were also delayed at his sites bitvest and 777coin. This all started when he was hit by covid (if I remember it correctly), the long running signature campaigns also came to an end and he did not have time even to manage his gambling sites.

Anyhow, it seems that both sites are running fine means and maybe they are being managed by lightlord himself or someone else whom he might have appointed.
1555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 05, 2022, 04:47:18 PM
HT: Jepang 1 - 0 Croatia

Until the first half ended, Japan pressed well enough so that the Croatian players had difficulty developing attacks into the penalty box area. Luka Modric did not appear to be the creator of the attack as the Japanese players pressed hard before reaching the penalty box.

Croatia dominated possession but only managed one shot on target in the first half, while Maya Yoshida and Shogo Taniguchi were solid defensively. Japan started to attack in the 40th minute, Daichi Kamada had some good opportunities which he was unable to capitalize on to score, luckily in the 43th minute Daizen Maeda was able to score for Japan in the first half.

Croatia has managed to score in the 2nd half and this match is now level. Anyone can score a score at the dying stages of the match and for sure they will be the winner. But I do not see any real urge from both teams to press hard at the opponent and it seems both teams are comfortable to go in the extra time. If this happens it will be the first time in this world cup that we shall see the match result in extra time and/or through plenty kicks.
1556  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blackjack.fun | Live tables | Baccarat |Slots| InstantWithraw on: December 05, 2022, 03:45:33 PM
Meanwhile thank you all for a great ideas. Soon we will start rewarding them.

I hope you meant that you will start reviewing them  Smiley  It would be really good if your software development team quickly fixes some pity issues and make the site look more professional.

I have used blackjack fun on one or two occasions and I have noticed that the site blanks out sometimes and I thought that system failure on blackjack fun will be fixed by the technical team during the upgrade to the new version of the site 3.0, I am surprised to still hear this comment from blackjack of system failure at this point again.
It shows there is not much difference between the new and the old version of the blackjack fun platform.
Please make site accessibility and withdrawal processing time a priority in your agenda for improving the site.

The good thing is that they are aware of this technical fault and fixed it quickly too. I am sure the black Jack team will take these outages as a challenge for them and upgrade their equipment and services, so these disruptions are minimal to nil.
1557  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blackjack.fun | Live tables | Baccarat |Slots| InstantWithraw on: December 04, 2022, 07:32:35 PM
Any communication when the site will be operational again?
The site continues to operate with a new design appearance but with chat communication I still can't check it can't be clicked on anything and maybe the admin will soon bring this feature in the near future even though the logo symbol has appeared.
Even with the notification feature, it's still "Coming soon", not only that, some features are also the same, maybe they are still being developed by the team.

There are a lot of features that are in the pipeline and you can see "Coming Soon" when you hover the mouse over it. Even the day/night conversion is under development. I don't know how long we will have to wait for all these features or if is it being communicated somewhere (and i may have missed the update).

By the way, is it a good idea to place the link of the site and mark it as "coming soon" or bring the icon of a feature when it's fully ready and functional?
1558  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🎁Welcome Pack on BetFury| 💸300 Free Spins + 150% Deposit Bonus on: December 04, 2022, 03:18:24 PM

Has anyone won BTC or DOGE in the free Roulette spin?
I was trying the Betfury Boxes and every time you withdraw Betfury allows us to spin the roulette and every time I spin I always win the 10000 FunFurry. No joke, it's where it fall 3 times already since yesterday.


I haven't tried withdrawal Betfury recently but seeing comments from other players, it seems people won other coins as well.
If you won BFG token, that's not bad either.

Had some time yesterday and managed to end in the top 200 for the Funfury contest yesterday. Won 0.05$ and 7 BFG tokens so not bad at all; could probably have ended a little bit higher but the time was running out. I think, this is my 5th time in total that I was able to win a prize in these contests.


I'm starting to explore sports betting in Betfury, they also limit the betting amount to $1, 10, 50, 100.

Yes, betting limits should not be placed by BetFury but if you ask me 100$ maximum bet is enough for me as i do not want to risk a whole lot of money in a single bet however other players have different opinion and may want to bet with higher amount.
1559  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals! on: December 04, 2022, 02:04:29 PM
It really depends on the initial capital as well as the luck that the player has, because slots are really games based on luck.
I would say that luck is more important factor in determining your winning in gambling as most of the game are luck based only as your capital can rise/fall with each bet.Have seen some extremely lucky players who have very less initial capital but still managed to get high profits out of it so you see luck is main factor in gambling.

With more capital, you can survive losses and continue gambling but winning jackpots does not need that you have big capital. Even with limited money, luck can make you win big in gambling while an unlucky person may keep spending money on gambling with no luck at all and keep losing.

Anyways it is always better to have extra more capital for gambling so that you do not feel stressed in case you lose in gambling.   Smiley
A rich person is more comfortable risking funds in gambling as compared to a poor person playing gambling.

1560  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Family is moving more than $1 million into decentralized exchanges on: December 03, 2022, 08:05:59 PM
However, it is still good for everyone to know that solutuons are being created. It might not be the best solutions, however, they are certainly better than centralized exchanges.

Decentralized exchanges lack liquidity and many other features that centralized exchanges are currently giving us, but this is the right step to move to decentralized exchanges. As more and more people will follow the same, the liquidity problem will be resolved automatically.


they say they bought in at the EXACT bottom of early 2017 (preATH) and sold at the top then traded in and out after that

Not everyone can sell at the exact bottom as it was hard to predict that 68K was the bottom when all the hype was for 100k$ bitcoin price in 2021.
The current prices are near the bottom of the bear market and the writer is rightly investing his money back in bitcoin to get ready for another bull market.
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