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161  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I will invest in bitcoin for my child's cost when they grow up. on: January 31, 2023, 03:51:35 PM
I see lots of people who have long term success investing in bitcoin. for example, like people who bought bitcoin in 2009 and sold it in 2021 when the bitcoin price was high.

now I have a child and my child is still small, of course the bigger my child is, the living expenses will also be greater.

so I plan to buy bitcoin and will invest in bitcoin for the long term, with the intention of paying for my children in the future, such as for school capital and my child's future marriage.

but I am also aware of the risks of investing in bitcoin, but I personally am ready for the risk of investing in bitcoin.

I want to know your opinion?

It sounds like a reasonable plan.  Do not keep the coins on any exchange though, preferably use some type of cold storage since computers can be compromised also.  It certainly sounds like you have the right time frame, not days, weeks, or months, but years.   Depending on what country you are located and the potential amount of value involved later, remember to consider that some places will impose gift taxes to larger amounts so gifting now vs gifting later (post-appreciation) could be smart.
162  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2023-01-26] Goldman Sachs Described Bitcoin As Best Performing Asset of 2023 on: January 30, 2023, 08:44:20 PM


"We expect further declines in the future given our view that these cryptocurrencies do not fulfill any of the three traditional roles of a currency: they are neither a medium of exchange, nor a unit of measurement, nor a store of value."

We can't say they were completely wrong when it comes to cryptocurrencies in general, but when it comes to Bitcoin it's hard to find any significant bank or financial institution that thought differently 4+ years ago. Banks should therefore never be a benchmark or an indicator of someone's decision to invest or not in something - they just want to appear smart from time to time, as if no one in the world knows elementary mathematics.

I'd have to disagree.  Crypto can easily be a "a store of value".  Over any reasonable timeframe so far, crypto has demonstrated that it is a good store of value.  Of course fiat is definitely not a "a store of value".

As far as a medium of exchange, for proof it is a medium of exchange, just ask silk road and all the other places that have used bitcoin for transactions over the last 14 years.  There are plenty.

Perhaps it is not a unit of measurement yet, but 2 out of three equals or beats most fiat.



Banks should therefore never be a benchmark or an indicator of someone's decision to invest or not in something

if you had good investment advice, would you:

1. start shouting about it, to everyone, all the time
2. keep quiet and buy/sell the maximum you can while no-one else notices


this financial news stuff is comprehensive market manipulation, but also quite subtle. Number 1 subtle message in financial news stories is: "and that's why you need to read the financial news, you needed to know this story, right?"

Precisely.  Many of the people at the investment banks are paid to do "something" even if that something is just writing articles to share with clients and those employees are never judged on the records that their calls have.  


163  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin limitation (self challenge) on: January 26, 2023, 04:01:36 PM
live in an island where I'm surrounded by waters, because of the distance of the island from the upland which is the capital of my state where the government officials base has affected developments from coming into the island where I stay. It is as if the people in the island have no government to bring good developments,  their is no constant electricity,  no road and bridges.

I know about bitcoin since 2021, but my major challenge of learning bitcoin all this while is because of no electricity.  Sometimes in a week the electricity company distribute electric power once or twice in a week doesn't last up to an hour.
Last year I tried my best to save some money so I can buy generator that can give me electricity to learn bitcoin well  and to start up the little I can invest in bitcoin.

Perhaps when you have electricity download a bunch of information about bitcoin to your laptop computer.  Or order some hard copy books.  

There are inexpensive solar charges if you only have to charge a laptop.  Or make sure that your laptop is charged fully when power is on?

See ones like this:
https://voltaicsystems.com/solar-chargers/


https://www.treehugger.com/best-portable-solar-laptop-chargers-4858511
164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEX deserves all criticism but not the hate on: January 26, 2023, 03:59:26 PM
...Government are going to strengthen the regulation of centralise and there will be more transparency from the exchange to their customers, especially with regards to custody of customers assets and proof of reserves .
...

If you really think that government regulation will result in more transparency, think about Bernie Madoff, Jordan Belfort, people buying houses in 2006-2008 with no way to pay for them etc.  There are 1000s of examples in highly regulated markets where crooks operated with impunity for a long time.  They will talk a good game but it is more about their power and control.

As far as the rest:  storing coins in a centralized exchange has always been bad for all the obvious reasons: seizure, fraud, bankruptcy etc.   It seems every year or two it becomes crystal clear that people think that this time it is different, they think "this time I can earn a riskless reward".  It is a hard lesson, but last year Celsius and FTX show that.  Genesis dragged it into 2023.   Sure, use whatever exchange you want to buy or sell, but do not leave coins or fiat on there.  And don't do it all at once so that if you are unlucky enough to deposit 10 minutes before another FTX shuts down, you don't have a total loss.

Crypto isn't difficult:  buy or mine coins, put them in cold storage and then just wait OR buy or mine coins and spend and use them using a non centralized wallet.

165  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-12-16] Germany calls for global regulation of the cryptospace on: January 26, 2023, 03:49:33 PM
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Germany calls for global regulation of the cryptospace

You want stricter crypto regulations? That's great! Just put SBF in jail first and then we'll talk. No excuses.

Perhaps they should look in the mirror and have tighter regulation of fiat so that it doesn't lose 99% of its value over a century.  Perhaps they should regulate the corruption of government officials first.

Of course, SBF is a scammer who just happened to use crypto.  Just like there are plenty of scammers using the euro and dollar. 
166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs CBDC - Print your own stickers on: January 19, 2023, 04:13:19 PM
Authoritarians and totalitarians the world over want power and control and CBDCs give it to them.  They are nothing special from the tech side, just a database, but for the power-hungry politicians, they are a dream: a centralized, censorable, controlled database of every transaction.

Owning bitcoin is one way to protect yourself.  Getting others to do so will help them eventually.
167  Economy / Speculation / Re: [2022-12-14] BTC bear market 70% dip kills BTC ‘tourists’ as metric screams buy on: January 19, 2023, 04:09:31 PM
Bitcointourist or Cryptotourist from speculation section?

And I didn't know how a bear market dip can "kill" someone. Maybe it will result in a big loss of funds or erase some unrealized profits but "kill"? Seriously??

So what it actually means is this.....

The Bitcoin tourists are those speculators that hang around Bitcoin, when the price are high. A lot of those people left the market, because a 70% dip in the price...signaled to them that Bitcoin is failing.  Roll Eyes

The long-term Bitcoin enthusiasts know better...and they see the DIP as a trigger to buy more bitcoins. They have seen the Bitcoin price dip like this before and then the recovery period to a new "all time high" price.... so they know it is the best time to buy, when the price dip with 70%  Grin Grin Grin

Ah, so the "tourists" are people looking to make a quick buck who haven't paid enough attention to know that BTC goes up and down.  In other words short term speculators who think "long term" is a few days  and "short term" is a few minutes.  lol.   Market timing is a gamble.  As you say, one sure way to have done well was to just buy a dip and then leave it for a few years. 
168  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you still holding your coins #btc on: January 12, 2023, 03:33:31 PM
2022 was certainly a bloody year for bitcoin investors and many drama played out in the crypto space but all that said we have manage to cross the year successfully to 2023.
  
2023 is going to be another year of major speculation on the rate on when we are going to experience another bull run and eventually reaching another ATH.
 As 2022 was seen as a disastrous year for some bitcoin holders, it was also seen as an golden opportunity for new comers like me who missed out in buying when bitcoin was very low before it experienced a major rise in the year 2020. We have bought bitcoin now thats it price is very low and we are expecting to hodl it till when another bull run season comes hopefully we can see it reach another all-time-high.

So am curious to know if everyone is still holding or have chicken out and sold theirs.
Note ::get your coins off any exhange platforms if you are still on the hodl game

People who panic end up missing the gains.  Pretty much anyone who mined or bought during the 2009 and 2020 period (even some of 2021) is doing well.  The people who were looking to make a quick buck and then overreacted probably didn't know that bitcoin has been very volatile, but over its existence has outperformed every other asset class and certainly inflation by orders of magnitude.

The advice that has paid off over time: buy (or mine) some coins.  Put them in cold storage.  Wait.  Come back and look in a few years.  Hold longer.

And you are right, anyone keeping coins on exchanges is asking to lose them.
169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can be banned or stopped by governments on: January 12, 2023, 03:29:24 PM
Indian government (maybe other also)  say that " to ban cryptocurrency we need global help" my question is : can bitcoin be banned if all government will agree to ban bitcoin

i am something less experience and has bad english so ignore

They can try, but eventually people who don't want to be under the thumb of the control-freak authoritarians around the world (socialist, fascist, communist, whatever the stripe) will just remain in bitcoin and not have to deal with them. 

I would also add that it seems unlikely that "all" governments will agree to ban bitcoin.  Some will see the benefit to not doing so and competition will force others to follow.

Think about the systems or political parties in the countries/states/regions trying to (in some cases repeatedly) ban bitcoin:  China.  New York.  India.  All want to control people and don't trust people to make decisions for themselves. 

Which side of history do people want to be on?  The one advocating for freedom and liberty, or the one advocating for statism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, and control?
170  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [2023-01-12] Binance says it plans to expand hiring by as much as 30% in 2023... on: January 12, 2023, 03:24:29 PM
It certainly does show the difference in markets.  Coinbase probably over expanded during the prior times.  I do hope this is a sign of positive things to return for bitcoin.  The fraudster, scammer hangers-on who have wanted to make a quick buck by centralizing bitcoin need to be flushed from the system.  E.g. FTX, Celsius etc.  Not to mention a lot of the scam coins.
171  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [2022-12-21] SEC Charges Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang with Defrauding Investor on: January 09, 2023, 09:37:39 PM
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I am not in law and I don't know have a slight idea about what SBF ought to do but I believe he must have a valid reason for pleading not guilty while other plead guilty.

I think the reason is:  everyone else has turned on him so there was no deal offered for him to take.  The others probably got a "if you cooperate with us [the prosecutors] we will recommend leniency to the judge".  So they might get X years vs Y years if they are shown to cooperate.

For him, everyone else had already turned so his choice was to (a) plead guilty and get a max sentence, or (b) plead not guilty and hope that he can show that they were the real ones who were the criminals, they were lying because of the plea deal above etc.  Then he might have a chance of getting off vs a guaranteed long sentence.

In short, his only choice at that point was to plead not guilty. 
172  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [2022-12-21] SEC Charges Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang with Defrauding Investor on: January 08, 2023, 02:32:17 PM
Using FTX to launder political donations and things like billions in dollars to Ukraine, and then some coming back to those in power to buy more votes.  It is disgusting.

Yes, it is. I heard rumors about the Samuel Bankman-Fried billions of dollars to Ukraine but I never hear from a trusted source. Is this rumor true?
What do you think about SBF pleading not guilty to the fraudulent charges while Caroline and Gary Wang pleaded guilty to their roles in the FTX bankruptcy despite they are not the prime wrongdoer?

I haven't seen details on it yet and whether it is true or not.  However given the stuff that was suppressed about Hunter Biden's laptop, Hillary Clinton's use of foreign nationals in 2016 to impact the election etc, it wouldn't surprise me if in a few years we find out it really was true.  The lies from Fauci at first that masks don't work, then they do and he admitted they lied etc.

Either way when SBF is donating millions to buy votes and protection, whether it went through Ukraine or not doesn't matter too much.

You see stuff like this you see them raising money for Ukraine, but not the other way:
https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1501268476488417281


Through Nov 30, 2022 it looks like the US sent about $15.1 billion in financial support (e.g. money) vs 22.9 in weapons, equipment, training etc.  Plus 9.9 billion in "humanitarian aid".  (https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts)  and (https://www.csis.org/analysis/aid-ukraine-explained-six-charts )

And then you have the arrest a few hours before he was supposed to testify (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/miranda-devine-calls-extremely-suspicious-184204146.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAI4BaVJYpMUKWQh6aIhNHkyfTqsBHX_FyWlNiBgt0rX8s26HXtEr2wNl7MMtcB7aiP0_nl_pgqeV19S9d8DPPHBQJstGnLgJmpATsliEWfxFseSNIZu0TmscUkVoXYHDV63bfAU_xa-ejWZktfI7N_SS4IXA-rtIlb7WdC0VHgNQ). 

Seems suspicious, like they wanted to stop him from saying something.
173  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [2022-12-21] SEC Charges Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang with Defrauding Investor on: January 04, 2023, 07:31:03 PM
Following the Sam Bankman-Fried case. Court records show he purchased Robinhood shares with $546 million through Alameda Research and following the FTX's bankruptcy, the US government opens an inquiry into the $372 million cyberattack because the issue happened by surprise right after the FTX exchange filed for bankruptcy which is totally fishy.

Everything about FTX, Sam Bankrupt-Fried, Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang have become one confusing disorder of information and confusion.

There was also new information only a few days ago that FTX has also been mixing some coins then converting them to bitcoin through changenow.com. Another update is that it was discovered that FTX and Alameda had a shell company callee North Dimension where it was the intermediary when FTX wanted to send customer funds to Alameda.

I am going to stop following this FTX case now hehe. Every news release to the public appears to be created to confuse everyone.
There's a lot of hidden agenda about the FTX issue especially Sam Bankman-Fried's roles in everything it makes me think the guy is a smart thief because he seems to have everything planned. He invested in Robinhood stock around May 12 (he acquired a 7.6% stake), I also read that he had a stake on Twitter either and he was reported to have met with President Biden's White House aides four times in 2022 before he was arrested on federal fraud charges.
Technically the federal fraud charge could be a game prepared by all the powerful people involved in the FTX issue.


Using FTX to launder political donations and things like billions in dollars to Ukraine, and then some coming back to those in power to buy more votes.  It is disgusting.
174  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-12-16] Germany calls for global regulation of the cryptospace on: January 04, 2023, 07:27:52 PM
This is a bait and switch.  They claim to want to regulate crypto to protect people, but they really want to regulate crypto to protect themselves and their power over people's money and consequently their lives.  They like being able to tax the people of the world 5-10% every year via inflation.  With around $460 trillion in global wealth, that is a TON of money they'd lose out on stealing from people with the "little guy" being hit the most with high inflation.  

Agreed, the government has never wanted to protect the people. 99% of the politicians who run the government only want to act on their self interests and the personal agendas of their backers.

The cryptospace is a threat to the banking system because it will break their monopoly on the creation of money, moving money, laundering of money and many other things about money. It will also break the monopoly on the government's definition of money. If anyone has noticed, much of the people in the community has considered bitcoin to be a more authentic form of money than fiat.

I'd just add that the crypto space is a threat to not just the banking system, but the political system since they depend on the laundering for their power.

This is why the are all in favor of things like digital fiat.  It buys nothing except no bills, but allows those in power to control everyone and everything, everywhere.  An Orwellian nightmare for people who are being controlled.
175  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-12-16] Germany calls for global regulation of the cryptospace on: December 17, 2022, 03:25:14 PM
This is a bait and switch.  They claim to want to regulate crypto to protect people, but they really want to regulate crypto to protect themselves and their power over people's money and consequently their lives.  They like being able to tax the people of the world 5-10% every year via inflation.  With around $460 trillion in global wealth, that is a TON of money they'd lose out on stealing from people with the "little guy" being hit the most with high inflation.  

The solution is easy:  hold your own keys.  
Buy your bitcoin (or mine it), move it to your own keys.  Use it or save it.  Don't exit.

Don't believe that you can get a 10% return safely from some muppet in cargo shorts (SBF).  Don't believe you can get a 12% return from some guy and his family who can't answer specific questions on an AMA (Celsius).

It isn't rocket science.  If you don't hold the keys you are a creditor.  If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.  That isn't specific to crypto.  If you don't like it, keep your money in a bank.  Whatever regulation they put in place would be redundant given the laws on the books already.  SBF is already in trouble, what specific law would've helped?  A law against Ponzi schemes and scams has been around for a century or so and the scams have been around longer than that yet people are still taken in.


176  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-10-07] Visa partners with FTX on: December 09, 2022, 02:10:41 PM
https://decrypt.co/114367/visa-pulls-plug-ftx-partnership-will-wind-down-debit-cards

"Payments giant Visa is reportedly shuttering its partnership with FTX following the latter’s bankruptcy filing last week." .... So this was so convenient for Binance ... their biggest competition. It explains why Binance pulled their financial support on the 11th hour to sink their competition and to stop this partnership with VISA.  Roll Eyes

What do you think?
VISA did the wise thing by terminating the cooperation relationship with FTX, FTX cannot be predicted when it will revive,, or maybe FTX will go bankrupt forever. Binance in this case is very profitable, this will strengthen their business.


FTX will never revive.  Visa etc were all jumping on the bandwagon.  I don't understand what all these people were thinking, perhaps they weren't thinking at all.  It was a case of the emperor have no clothes, like Celsius and many of these other people and it seemed pretty obvious that neither of them knew what they were doing and were just scammers.  I watched part of two of those Celsius AMA things last spring and they just seemed incompetent.  Ditto with the people from FTX.

The number of supposedly smart people at Visa and other places taken in by the scammers is crazy.
177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will not become the world currency. on: December 06, 2022, 03:25:12 PM

Well the Inflation of Fiat is not really the issue since it is intended by the government. The Problem is that bitcoin is not stabel but it deflationary and that is a much bigger issue.

Another order of magnitude or two of price increases will help bring price stability to bitcoin.  An inflationary currency is a huge problem.  Over 30 years, you can lose more than half your purchasing power in a low inflation environment.  In a high inflation environment like now in many places, it happens much faster.  Something that cost $1 in 1992 costs over $2 today.  Something that cost $1 in 1982 costs more than $3 today.

A non-inflationary currency like bitcoin can protect you from the people who want to steal the products of your life and mind with the hidden, outrageous, abhorrent, highly regressive inflation tax. 
178  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-10-21] Global Recession May Last Until Near 2024 Bitcoin Halving-Elon Musk on: December 06, 2022, 03:18:45 PM
I think many people who have been here for a while tend to be realistic

You may be right, if that while at least contains a crypto winter, excepting this one.
Then you may see a pattern, they may have more confidence.

But the noisier ones on the matter are the newcomers, which are scared.
And let's be honest, no matter how many bitcoin cycles we've witnessed, none was during a worldwide economic recession (although there are mixed signals whether it's a worldwide recession or not).

That is true re the 2007-2007 timeframe.  I am still of the opinion that bitcoin will over time protect you from inflation and confiscation along with many other uses.  It certainly has down well compared to fiat over most timeframes > 12-18 months.  Time will tell if that continues.

:-)
179  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-11-03] Plans Now Let Workers Put Retirement Money Into Cryptocurrency on: December 06, 2022, 03:16:44 PM
At the moment flight to safety is big.

Many are draining their exchange wallets.

Or converting coins to cash.

I think investing my pension in a btc fund is too risky = a pretty common belief at the moment.

Which usually means do some and be a contarian.

My self I am 65 so setting a pension fund up 🆙 is not in my plans.


I'd have to say that long term, bitcoin IS safety if you have a longer attention span that a fly.  :-)  Sure, if you bought at 60k you are down now, but if history turns out to be any guide, you just need to give it time.  There isn't a guarantee that bitcoin will always go up.  People tend to panic at the exact wrong time and buy high and sell low which is a sure way to lose. 

The mantra for > 12 years now is: mine or buy some and put it in cold storage.  Check the price in 5 years and for most retirement plans (except in your case being 65! :-)  ) the timeframe for an investment is decades.

180  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2021-09-24] China Says All Crypto-Related Transactions Are Illegal on: November 27, 2022, 12:50:02 AM
Communist China will of course defy any decentralized platforms, be it monetary, assets, social media, games and entertainment. Communist China does not want anything that it cannot control.

In the past, the Chinese government banned F4, a popular Taiwanese boy band and series actors at the same time because it may influence its huge population. I also read before that they banned popular manga whose origins are from rival Japan, the Chinese government wants its own artists to produce their own comics. So, how much more on bitcoin, especially upon realizing that many of its citizens are mining and investing in fully decentralized digital money? The world is becoming more modernized and open, and any communists and autocratic governments won't last further if they are not to crack down on decentralized platforms and stuff that can open the minds of its population. 

Precisely.  Anything that takes power from the Chinese communist party will be opposed and that means that anything that is decentralized is attacked.

It is similar around the world today, whether it be the socialists, fascists or communists in the US Democrat party who can't tolerate dissent or similar people anywhere.
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