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161  Other / Off-topic / Re: And some more delays in BFL shipment plans on: December 10, 2012, 12:27:40 AM
One, the current website is Wordpress and I loathe Wordpress thus I tend to avoid trying to update it.
Two, the new website should be rolled out soon, so updating the old one has taken a back seat to other issues. See point one.

Good thing Inaba isn't a programmer
162  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 3 Gigabyte HD 5870's (Reduced) on: December 09, 2012, 08:30:37 AM
If I remember the listing fee is only like 50 cents. I get those all the time but they don't really save me any money. Its the selling fee that gets you, well that and paypal

I have a offer for free listings on ebay  Smiley  thank you for your luck. Not interested in your $85 offer regardless of what you may say. As i said if no one buys them on the forums just going to list them on Ebay
163  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitcoin Network Hash Rate Begins Massive Tank on: December 09, 2012, 06:01:03 AM
Because it is in tacotime's best interest for people to stop mining litecoins, most threads in speculation forums have an agenda

Why are threads created with misleading titles like bitcointalk is some tabloid rag?
164  Other / Meta / Re: Only one page of threads in each forum on: December 06, 2012, 05:17:05 AM
me bad it happened when I tried to use adblock to block the ad's under posts, never mind
165  Other / Meta / Only one page of threads in each forum on: December 06, 2012, 05:14:06 AM
What's going on? AAAHHHHH
166  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] - 57,000,000 coinlab loyalty points! on: December 03, 2012, 09:58:03 PM
$1000 is way more than I would offer we don't even know that coinlab isn't a scam yet
167  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Spent a long afternoon with my Air Compressor on: December 03, 2012, 08:01:54 AM
whats your power setup with that? you have to be pulling close to 100 amps right? I assume this isn't residential? Most homes only have 100 or 150amp mains


I have not shut any rigs down, although i did downvolt everything cause I pay about 0.125c for power.
after elec profit about 30bucks a day with 47.5G.

168  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Three days out, and network hashrate unaffected? on: December 03, 2012, 07:54:50 AM
the reason people aren't stopping is they suck at math. We had our net income cut in half not profits! So people may have been making 20 dollars a day and now think, I'm only making 10 dollars a day when it reality its more like $5. They also are not figuring in their hardware is losing value about as fast as they are making money. They are also a few people like me who are playing chicken. But at this point I think I'm close to done. Maybe I can beat the fire sales to ebay.



i don't think the hashrate will ever drop.

people still want a piece of the pie -

however small that is.

they are all chasing a possibility, a probability -

a chance


for the same reason people have mined gold at a loss -

for centuries.
169  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Anonymous debit or credit cards with bitcoins? on: December 03, 2012, 07:46:12 AM
hmmm your right they do ask for your information when you call and activate it... the problem with the ones that don't have a name associated with them(actual gift cards) is it is almost impossible to use them online. Whats the point of an anonymous card if your using it in person?
170  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: USD2BTC Feedback Thread on: December 03, 2012, 07:25:37 AM
scammer! beware

good feedback from poster directly out of newbie jail

Quick and dirty wordpress webpage
$3.99 domain registrar

and this guy wants us to think he is serious
try harder
171  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: $108 mpak for 8 bitcoins WTB COINS on: December 03, 2012, 07:13:28 AM
I don't know about you but this thread has loads of weirdness going on, and who knows how many scammers are on this thread. You have two newbies saying this guy scammed them. I bet notthepuma sold hackattack a bad card would be my guess, than maybe hackattack got desperate and tried to pawn it off on someone else. I had traded with him in the past too. So I'll give him a chance to explain whats going on before I judge, but all three are possible scammers

but we are only human and I've watched the most reputable people on this forum either default or straight up scam people after they themselves were scammed
172  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Anonymous debit or credit cards with bitcoins? on: December 03, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
its called a greendot card, once you buy the card initially you can fill it with bitcoins at btcpak.com

You could always walk into walgreen's and buy a Debit card that you could refill every time it runs out back at Walgreen
173  Other / Off-topic / Re: Just what is a clock buffer anyway? on: December 02, 2012, 09:42:21 PM
My only question is if you really are employed by BFL, why hasn't BFL fired you yet? Calling people liars when you should be taking the high road especially when you are representing a business. Or you are just another one who knows about their con which is why they don't really care what you say?

this could have been a good thread until you derailed it by feeding the trolls. maybe that's what you wanted to happen

Hypocrisy comes with pathological behavior, Mesarah.  It's often the only way a pathological liar can reconcile their behavior and/or words in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.


174  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Spent a long afternoon with my Air Compressor on: December 01, 2012, 10:13:19 PM
those numbers were verified with a killawatt now it has been months since I did it so my memory may be off +/- 10 watts but I remember that 7970 was much more efficient. It is more efficient because it is only 28nm process which needs less power. If you are looking for efficiency your not going to leave it running at stock clocks or volts

Its actually an underclocked 7970. You can run them at about 0.95v at 550m/h. They use about 120 watts each. 5970 are awesome as well but your best case looking at 600m/h and about 190 watts

For those that are curious, almost my entire GPU stock is 58XX series. The most efficient GPUs available for mining, in case you didn't know. My setups, however, leave a lot of room for improvement. My electricity rate is average, at 0.088 per kWh.

This statement about "most efficient" is not actually true, but it's interesting to hear from people who are shutting down and throwing in the towel, and why, and so on.


Ok, would you care to enlighten us all on what the most efficient GPU is?


Well, I wasn't talking about underclocking.

But even so, I have my serious doubts that an underclocked 7970 is more efficient than an underclocked 5970.
Your claim doesn't even make sense. The 7970 has more "extras" for gaming that would certainly draw a bit of power, regardless of how fast you're running the card (via the Voltage setting).

Your claim would have to be independently verified before I would believe it.

175  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 25BTC reward but.. no drop in hash rate! on: December 01, 2012, 08:51:37 AM
Why would people still mine at profitability close to zero? makes no sense to me. My 5970's I bought a little over a year ago when Newegg got them back in stock for that promo code. I paid 500 for the first one and 400 for the second. now they are worth $220 at the most that's $460 I lost, or about 51%. So in reality $40 a month from approx 1400m/hash was breaking even. Add to that the approximately $30 a month in electricity at 0.08 a kwh. $70 a month was breaking even. Now most months I made between over $100 a g/hash net so I did profit. But at this difficulty with the block halving seems to me everyone but people with free power are losing money

when you figure in power costs, profits were cut substantially more than 50%. The only reasons I can see we haven't seen a huge decrease in hash rate is either people still think the price is going to double, or they think the used market for video cards has bottomed out and they want to make a few more bucks towards paying off their equipment. Well I can almost guarantee we haven't even begun to see the fire sale on gpu's yet
176  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Spent a long afternoon with my Air Compressor on: December 01, 2012, 07:21:17 AM
also check out the thread on re-oiling gpu fans... it works about 90% of the time. Drill a hole about 3 mm off center and drip some 3 in 1 lube in there
177  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Spent a long afternoon with my Air Compressor on: December 01, 2012, 07:17:24 AM
Its actually an underclocked 7970. You can run them at about 0.95v at 550m/h. They use about 120 watts each. 5970 are awesome as well but your best case looking at 600m/h and about 190 watts

For those that are curious, almost my entire GPU stock is 58XX series. The most efficient GPUs available for mining, in case you didn't know. My setups, however, leave a lot of room for improvement. My electricity rate is average, at 0.088 per kWh.

This statement about "most efficient" is not actually true, but it's interesting to hear from people who are shutting down and throwing in the towel, and why, and so on.


Ok, would you care to enlighten us all on what the most efficient GPU is?

178  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: BFL ASIC worth the risk for pre-order? on: December 01, 2012, 07:03:52 AM
When BFL announced their ASICs, they announced that they were funded by a 3rd party. I'm sure the cash flow helps, but their R&D was not funded by pre-order sales.

Which was announced by a promoted yahoo article. They paid for it so true or not, it should be taken with a grain of salt

They have a history of selling large amount of high-quality FPGA miners, long before all of this stuff about their employee's questionable past came into light. Is this stuff important? Yes. Should this affect the company as a whole? No. Are they still capable of delivering? Yes.

Their products seem to number in the hundreds, you call that a large amount? When BFL did their show off your devices youtube video contest, it was the same 20-30 people making several videos. Just not that many people own BFL products.

As it stands right now, they are scheduled to deliver almost an entire month before their competitors. If you ordered an Avalon, then you knew this would happen. If you ordered a bASIC, then I'm sorry for your recent (yet severe) delays. And I'm not just talking about initial shipments, either; BFL has said they can still fulfill all current orders before the end of the new year (or at least close to it), which is well before the current bASIC shipment time.

It's also been said 100x before: if you don't feel comfortable giving them your coins, then don't pre-order from them. You're more than welcome to wait until there's more proof. The last I'd heard, they were well over 100TH of pre-orders, which is quite a lot of people putting quite a lot of coin where their mouth is, betting that BFL really is who they say they are. (Discalimer: I'm one of them).

Now you think this new "fuzzy date" is the right one and that they will still ship before their competitors. Even if they promised the date I wouldn't believe them (after missing how many dates already) but you believe their fuzzy one?

As far as not sending them coins I'll agree with you there, but realize that you sending them your coins before any evidence of a product is a very risky investment, and it may or may not pay off for you.
179  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 25BTC reward but.. no drop in hash rate! on: December 01, 2012, 01:07:26 AM
it seems to me its more accurate to look at the larger pools listed hashrates, than the average based on block times listed on some. I see no decrease in Eclipse, or Bitminter. Maybe a slight decrease with deepbit. I'm not familiar with slush's average rate though. It will probably be at least a week until we see any decrease
180  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: November 28, 2012, 08:23:54 AM
240v I hope, you would be pleasantly surprised with the results

The guts of my new alt coin mining setup. It will be ran on a 60 amp circuit and two 30 amp PDUs. I have a lot of work to do  Cry
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