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1681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 13, 2014, 10:03:58 PM
The rich list has a similar statistic, although not as complex as the Gini coefficient. The cummulative market share. So for TEK the top 10 wallets own 53% of the coins.  For HBN the top ten wallets own 36.5% of the coins.
Great, it confirms a Gini index would be easy to implement, then. Just have to find someone to do it. That would fall in the scope of NOBLE's noble ideas, I'd say.

I would also like to see the Gini coefficient.

Eventually, I may input TEK, HBN, and other altcoin data into a spreadsheet to find the beta coefficient, Sharpe, Treynor, Sortino, or Modigliani ratios, or other risk metrics using bitcoin as the benchmark. The output may yield some interesting results, but the data may not be relevant yet, because these markets are still somewhat immature.

One step at a time though. The rich list data is a fantastic start!
Thanks MarketNeutral, I bookmark this post for later use. You are right, the richlist is a great start.
1682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 13, 2014, 09:59:02 PM
If I am not mistaken, cryptsy doesn't stake their coins, they leave them cold.
And so does Mintpal (they announced it on the MINT thread some months ago). If I remember correctly, Tranz said somewhere staking is a bad idea anyways for exchange, for security reasons, but I did not read his post.
1683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 13, 2014, 09:43:27 PM
Something I'd like to see for every cryptocurrencies is a Gini index by crypto.

Since a richlist allows to know the exact content of every wallet, it should be possible to get a Gini index out of it. I'd say it is not difficult to do (although beyond my coding skill).
It would not be good for a coin in particular, but for the ecosystem in general and should be global effort - but, hey, I'm here, so I propose it here since the richlist has just been created. Of course, it would not account for people with multiple wallets but that would be quite representative still (especially if we consider that the percentage of user with multiple wallets is similar among cryptos).

The end result would hopefully be a better distribution of coins, since the coins with the best (read: lowest) Gini index would top the chart. We know from experiences in real life (energy labels in Europe for fridges and washing machines but also graphic card benchmarking like 3Dmark starting from around the turn of the millenium) that an easy-to-read notation encourages competitors to get better (the energy efficiency of fridges and washing machines is much better since the introduction of energy tag. A race for egalitarianism itself causing in increase in price and thus market cap (price being the trojan horse for egalitarianism).

Thoughts? How difficult would it be to implement an Gini index scoring for various crypto? We could start by TEK and HBN, for instance, then continue with less cooperative cryptos.
1684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 13, 2014, 09:31:04 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see TEK and HBN evolve a quasi-mutually contingent dichotomy similar to the Aussie Dollar and the New Zealand Dollar.
Can you extrapolate? I don't know this dichotomy between the two dollars.
1685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 13, 2014, 09:15:40 PM
the explorer is up and running with the rich list (updated every 10 minutes).
I can't believe it! I am on the rich list Smiley

And like MarketNeutral, I'm surprised to be that high.
1686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 13, 2014, 04:54:46 PM
TEK is getting manipulated à la Blackcoin atm.
1687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: May 13, 2014, 03:44:59 PM
Sign any message with your wallet to prove it. easy
How do you do this?
1688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitstamp is the Next Gox and why Bitcoin will be at $300 soon on: May 13, 2014, 03:25:49 PM
Disclaimer: I live in Slovenia and I use the same Bank, I also live 10 min away from Bitstamp offices.
Dober dan mmitech! Živil sem v Ljubljani za štiri leta.

Dober dan, kje pa živiš zdaj ? ali si Slovenc ?

Edit: Je vois dans votre profil que vous êtes français, ainsi que votre nom est français, avez-vous travaillé ici?
Je suis français mais j'ai vécu quatre en Slovénie Smiley Lepo se imej!
1689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Scientifically valuable alternative for bitcoin? on: May 13, 2014, 11:06:09 AM
Thanks - while scientific value of primecoin is questionable, the curecoin sounds great.
Riecoin came to the same conclusion: finding "raw" primes has little scientific uses. Finding Riemann constellations has more.

it this case you still need to waste a lot of resources on classical mining.
With Riecoin, the mining itself is the calculation, so problem solved.

I don't own and never own a single Riecoin. I just find the idea interesting.
1690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Who missed out on getting a NEM stake? on: May 13, 2014, 10:46:24 AM
How did you get yours? I am an early investor, I did not receive anything yet.
1691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MRO Monero trading thread and OTC xchg (bid 100 ask 115 last 110) on: May 13, 2014, 10:45:29 AM
The exchange site is a bit crude atm and slow. Deposits are have issues and withdrawals may not be so liked since its manual
Do you sometimes do something else than complaining?
- Argh, MRO is crashing!
- Look, he is dumping
- Oh, MRO is dead
- Beh, the exchange is bad

It's tiresome.
1692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 13, 2014, 10:19:35 AM
I've managed to stack tens of thousands over the course of a couple months. If you put up a buy order and leave it there someone often comes along and fills it.
So I place a big buy order so that it stands out (even if it is low) and I wait, right?
1693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PHS][PoS] PhilosopherStone | PoS | No Premine | stuff | 1.6.0 on: May 13, 2014, 10:16:43 AM
Lost 100+ stones last night because I didn't see this.  Can't see where they went because of no block explorer.
Same for me. They are not that much lost as "in the waiting line", but that's still bad for staking. OTOH, I guess it drives the price down, which  is good for boying.
1694  Local / Annonces / Re: Monero, la crypto Cryptonote qui monte on: May 13, 2014, 10:03:35 AM
Salut à tous,

Désolé d'avoir délaissé cette thread, les avancées EN me prennent tout mon temps.

Pour faire rapide : vous avez une question sur Monero, venez me voir sur #monero (IRC) ou envoyez-moi un MP
Les Français qui commencent à être calés sur Monero à part moi :
superresistant
folichon

Pour le logo, en interne notre préféré c'est celui de Syris (deux cryptos que je mène et à chaque fois c'est un Français qui gagne, même si rien de définitif encore pour Monero, hein, Syris)

superresistant : pour la pool, l'EN doit sortir aujourd'hui. En direct de l'IRC: http://gyazo.com/ae8bf9c473b3245fac401ce01d4add38
perl et super: comme elle sera open-source (il devrait même y en avoir deux open-source) pourquoi ne pas regarder le code?

Je ne peux garantir que je reviendrais fréquemment, donc MP ! Même pour me dire "David, viens sur la thread FR on a des questions pour toi".

A plus.
1695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [MRO] Monero logo contest - 600 MRO bounty on: May 13, 2014, 09:53:03 AM
Update:
The logo fills my requirements but me neither I don't like the retrofuture look of the font. I would favour something more rounded. Maybe not "serif" but less "fantasy". Probably a classical, especially a humanist or a garalde, because they'd convey a feeling of calm a "reassurance" that I find both original among all the mechanistic and lineal fonts and appealling for a crypto which is all about being protected (shield)
1696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [MRO] Monero logo contest - 600 MRO bounty on: May 13, 2014, 09:35:03 AM



Maybe more classic?
- It is not a round logo
- The shield seems to me to be appropriate
- It's clean and simple

The logo fills my requirements (meaningful although a bit too in-your-face but that's OK). But I don't like the retrofuture look of the font. I would favour something more rounded. Maybe not "serif" but less "fantasy". Probably a classical, especially a humanist or a garalde, because they'd convey a feeling of calm a "reassurance" that I find both original among all the mechanistic and lineal fonts and appealling for a crypto which is all about being protected (shield)
My favourite so far.
Syris, you raised up the ante!
1697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TEKcoin PoS/PoW on Cryptsy! 30 days 40% interest! on: May 13, 2014, 12:37:52 AM
I tried to buy some TEK today. I looked at the behaviour of the book order and concluded it was bot-driven.

I'm ready to buy, but not against bots pumping the prices.
I'm willing to buy OTC to any, with a 1% escrow (pressbar, thundertoe, tokyoghetto if one of you is interested in being the escrow - of course if you are the seller, no problem Smiley)
I have 0.3 BTC. Please make me an offer (PM only).

Thank you

Nota: if I happen to have broken some netiquette rule of OTC trading, please assume it was unintentionnal and informe me of the right thing to do in the future. Thank you.

1698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PHS][PoS] PhilosopherStone | PoS | No Premine | stuff | 1.5.2 on: May 12, 2014, 11:19:43 PM
Nope, your command is *-qt5, mine *-qt4, maybe someone can explain what is the point on this.
I could hardly believe it, but... that was it! I thought that qt5 would be "everything qt4, but better", I was wrong.

Thank you!
1699  Local / Français / Re: File des nouveaux venus français on: May 12, 2014, 11:07:38 PM
je vous conseille d'ailleurs à tous et à toutes, le MONERO !

Ce n'est pas moi qui dirait le contraire Smiley

Si tu ne donnes pas d'arguments le conseil ne semble pas valoir cher
Monero est monnaie lancée il y a moins d'un mois, en réaction à une monnaie préalable préminée à 80% (Tenebrix vs Fairbrix/Litecoin?). Elle est basée sur Cryptonote, une technologie proposant entre autres un anonymat bien plus poussé que Darkcoin et une résistance au GPU plus poussée aussi que Darkcoin. Pour certains, c'est le nouveau Bitcoin (pas que ça me déplairait) et depuis deux jours, il y a une échange de dispo http://cryptonote.exchange.to. En tout cas, on a des bons dev dans la boite.
Tu peux nous trouver sur monero.cc, #monero ou https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0 (avec de bonnes explications dans l'OP).

Si tu veux un avis plus impartial, demande à supperesistant.
1700  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Le prix du bitcoin ne cesse de chuter depuis quelque jours... on: May 12, 2014, 10:31:00 PM
Bitcoin attends de voir ce que juin/juillet/aout va apporter comme bordel ainsi que les spetembre/octobre significativement connus pour des désastres historiques.
Justement, les vieux de la vieille : avez-vous constaté des cycles annuels par exemple une baisse pendant l'été ?
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