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1701  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do if bitcoin crash? on: February 21, 2023, 09:37:28 PM
Bitcoin is unlikely to collapse completely, as many people still see the value of this currency, but it is difficult for Bitcoin to rise again at the high price it used to be. If Bitcoin crashes, I probably won't invest any more money in crypto.
What do you mean by "collapse completely"? Do you mean Bitcoin to lose its value at all? Well, I don't see any reason that Bitcoin to lose its value, it just decreases its value because of the bearish season. When the bullish season returns, the price of Bitcoin will come back to the previous season (like the season in 2021). The price of Bitcoin even can be bigger than the last ATH ($68k-$69k). People predict that Bitcoin price probably reaches $100k in the next bullrun season (2024-2025). So, why do you assume the price will be difficult to be as big as previously?  Huh

1702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Do Gamblers Do This? on: February 21, 2023, 09:29:07 PM
It makes me wonder: why do gamblers tend to wait until they have suffered a catastrophic loss or a string of losses before quitting or seeking help?
It is because nothing wrong with the games/gambling, it should be fun as long as you do it properly.
The problem rises when you be greedy and try to chase the losses, then you will end up with severe/huge losses.
It is actually quite simple, you won't lose severely if you limit your funds or gamble with small money. Don't gamble to get income, just gamble for fun like when you play common online games. Gambling for entertainment is safer than gambling for gaining money purpose. Once you think gambling is a source for gaining money, it is the beginning of the sad tale.

1703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 21, 2023, 09:20:57 PM
I didn't watch Napoli but only watched from the live score because at the moment Liverpool-Madrid is much more tense and worth watching.
The first half ended 2-2 now and of course this made me feel optimistic again after Madrid looked bad at the start of the first half which made me want to stop watching this game.
It is not 2-2 anymore, Real Madrid has scored 4 goals (Liverpool 2-4 Real Madrid). Militao and Benzema make Real Madrid lead the match now.
I agree that Liverpool looks better in ball possession but Real Madrid can play more effectively, they can score more goals although they can't dominate the match. We can see clearly that Real Madrid players have a strong mentality as the UCL winner. Wink

1704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is the bear market over? on: February 21, 2023, 09:12:00 PM
I hope bitcoin price can be 30$k in few months. But I don't understand why bitcoin price is still increasing so slowly. Everyone is losing a lot because of bad market.  It will not be possible to cover. And once the price of Bitcoin can cross 60$k again in 2024 everything will be back to normal.  Everyone will be able to withdraw their losses and make a lot of profit I think. Now everyone can invest in some good coins if they want.
Bitcoin price should be above $30k in the next few months, don't worry about it!!
If the price of Bitcoin raises slowly, it is normal because no significant rise just in a short time. It needs time, you can't expect the Bitcoin price to increase like a pump of an altcoin price. However, the price increase of Bitcoin looks very positive, it always increases gradually. Although sometimes it drops again, it is normal because it needs some decreases before the next raises.

Normal or abnormal doesn't depend on a certain price. $60k isn't a measure of the normal price of Bitcoin since the Bitcoin price is always normal depending on the market trend. If we look at the trend of the bearish season now, it is normal if Bitcoin price is still below $25k. Nothing wrong with the cheap price of Bitcoin, dude!!

1705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is ok to sell your Bitcoin. on: February 21, 2023, 09:04:16 PM
As long you are making profits or really in positive then profit is profit as always which is good.
Indeed. When we sell our Bitcoin for the profits that meet with the target, it is always good for selling.
I also have my own target for selling, it doesn't depend on a pump but it has a certain percentage of a raise from the buying price. Mostly, the time for selling is in the bullish season and the time for buying is during the bearish season.

Everyone can set certain goals for themselves when they are ready to sell, but this raises another question, after we sell bitcoins, how then to protect funds from inflation?
Commonly, people sell Bitcoin for stablecoins. You must know that stablecoins are relatively no significant change in value. So, no worries about inflation.
I assume you did the same way, right? CMIIW

1706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 20, 2023, 09:59:07 PM
Mikel Arteta and ten Hag have done a great work for their respective team, they were able to bring out the best from their players. If these two teams don't end up winning the league it is very certain they will be participating in the Champions league next season. Their improvement was so quick, I respect this ten Hag and Arteta.
Yep. Both Arteta and Ten Hag have done their best effort to manage their clubs. I really respect what these coaches have done so far, it is simply amazing. Arsenal should be the favorite team to win the EPL title this season, they are still leading the table although Man City almost overtakes them. I am sure Arsenal still has enough power to maintain the 1st position until the season ends. Arsenal has a quality squad, they choose an effective tactic this season. As long as Arteta manages Arsenal, this team will be the favorite to win the title. Regarding what Ten Hag did, he can make Man United be in the top 3 now. It is something difficult to achieve by previous coaches. Man United is in UCL zone and they have a chance to overtake Man City in 2nd place.

1707  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Forum altcoin mulai sepi lagi.... on: February 20, 2023, 09:57:08 PM
Ada sih, cuma beberapa persen saja dari total 100%. Kebanyakan yang kita jumpai mayoritas pengguna forum membuat posting untuk mengejar target mingguan, saya tidak ingin munafik juga akan hal itu.

Mereka yang masih aktif berdiskusi di forum tanpa menggunakan kode tanda tangan di profilnya juga punya cara sendiri untuk menambah cuan, kebanyakan dari mereka yang pernah saya jumpai adalah user hebat di forum. Saya tidak perlu menyebutkan satu persatu namanya disini, mungkin agan sudah tahu siapa-siapa saja yang saya maksud dan sebelumnya juga pernah terlibat diskusi secara langsung dengan mereka.

Dari beberapa posting yang pernah di buat mereka, memiliki nilai edukasi yang tinggi. Kita yang tingkat pengetahuannya masih rendah, bisa mengais ilmu dari apa yang telah dibaca pada posting yang layak dijadikan referensi.
Sebenarnya mau post untuk target mingguan atau post hanya untuk diskusi, tidak ada masalah dengan keduanya. Selama tetap menjaga kualitas post dan tidak melanggar aturan apa pun, setiap orang bebas membuat post. Memang banyak member dari forum ini yang join sigcamp, tapi ada juga juga yang tidak tertarik join sigcamp. Kedua golongan member ini punya alasan masing-masing, kita wajib menghormati pilihan masing-masing. Tidak perlu menyebutkan member mana saja, cukup dibahas secara general saja.  Smiley


1708  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Don't have high expectations in the crypto world. on: February 17, 2023, 09:34:24 PM
I see a lot from the perspective of some beginners like me who are new to cryptocurrency.
Sometimes, some of them see the cryptocurrency world as an easy way or business to get profits or get rich quickly.
This perspective comes up because we are seeing so many people become rich because of crypto, so many people are able to get high profits from crypto trading and investment, and how many people spread and notice their accounts with huge money because of this crypto business.

But, most of them don't understand and don't even want to see what kind of process that that successful crypto results have been passing. We sometimes only see the success of someone, but we don't consider what kind of obstacles and experiences they have been passing. This will not be easy for us and they may also have experienced bad things very much in this crypt business. But as long as doing good consistency with good evaluation to be much better, they finally can be successful as we think right now.

But unfortunately, many newbies don't see and cosnider about this. Many newbies consider that it is very easy to be rich from crypto that is why they want instat ways. It ends up in getting scammed becuase they are easily deceived by the scammers with high profit promises.
1709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bad feeling like a bomb is gonna go off on: February 17, 2023, 09:27:24 PM
I know Crypto had a heck of a run a week ago, and it is giving back which is normal. They have been getting beat real bad and its not stopping. I was on Coin Market Cap an hour ago, and looked at the stable coins. They are all except USDT well below a dollar. All were up 3 to 5% today and still wasnt up to a dollar.
Crypto has been going very dropped not only from a week ago, this is in the bullish era, so this is very normal that the price will drop and up again very significantly. But it doesn't mean that crypto is getting beat in this situation. Once more, dropped market or market correction is very normal in the crypto market, that is the chance for us if we want to utilize short trading although it will be very risky. But sometimes, there are also many people who are utilizing this situation to get profit.  Every time the crypto market is dropped, it will probably be the opposite of what happens to stable coins. Commonly they will be increasing once Bitcoin price drops. And the vice versa.
1710  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: February 17, 2023, 09:20:46 PM
Setelah sempat menembus $25.2K dalam 24 jam terakhir, hari ini koreksi kembali terjadi dan telah menyentuh minus 3.6%.
Beberapa kekhawatiran tentang penurunan sebelumnya tampaknya semakin hilang setelah lonjakan harga kemarin, tapi tentu saja masih sangat sulit mempertahankan harga di atas $25K dengan kondisi pasar saat ini. Tapi saya tidak terlalu meng-khawatirkan volatilitas harga karena intinya dalam jangka panjang harga bitcoin dapat diharapkan lebih tinggi dari apa yang telah dicapainya pada 2021.
Belum waktunya harga untuk stabil di atas $25k, kita baru saja berhasil melewati angka $25k. Butuh beberapa minggu bahkan bulan ke depan untuk harga bisa stabil di atas $25k. Sama halnya ketika harga di kisaran $20k sebelumnya, butuh waktu agar stabil di atas $20k. Baru setelah Januari 2023 harga bisa stabil di atas $20k, sedangkan di akhir tahun 2022 sebelumnya harga masih sering turun di kisaran $18k-$19k. Mungkin di Q2 harga BTC bisa stabil di atas $25k dan mulai menunggu momentum untuk mencapai target selanjutnya $30k.

BTW masalah volatilitas itu sudah hal lumrah, akan selalu ada pada koin crypto, termasuk Bitcoin. Jadi jangan heran dengan dump-pump yang bisa saja terjadi kapan pun.

1711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 17, 2023, 09:13:19 PM
Kvaratshelia's goal was excellent, he drove the ball very well and finished great. I am sure that he will play in very good teams in the future, he will be one of the best players in the world.
We are watching a very simple match for Napoli. I thought they would get 3 points without any difficulty in this match, but as far as we have seen so far, we can watch many more goals. We watched 2 goals in the first half, let's see how the second half goes Smiley
Kvaratshelia already played in a good team, Napoli is also a big team, mate.
And he is already one of best players, he seems to be nominated as a candidate for Ballon d'Or in the future.
However, not only Kvaratshelia, Osimhen is also a great player in Napoli. In this match, he scored a goal, too. As long as Napoli has these two players, they will be always a strong team. Napoli is very lucky to have these two players.

About today match, Napoli is surely no doubt to win it and gets 3 points. They are leading with 2 goals and dominate the match. Napoli players' quality is much better than Sassuolo, they also play solidly as a team. They simply will get another 3 points today.

1712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2022/2023 on: February 17, 2023, 08:58:42 PM
Obviously Ronaldo is the main reason I honestly wouldn't care about this league without Ronaldo Cheesy and now I know more about several clubs
No need to be surprised if so far the discussion on this thread has reached 33 pages because previously Ronaldo effect bringing millions of followers on Al Nasr IG.
It is Ronaldo's effect!!   Grin
It is not surprising if Saudi Pro League becomes more famous and familiar among football lovers. People are curious about Ronaldo's career in Al Nassr and how good Ronaldo's performance in each match of Al Nassr. Ronaldo has a big power to attract people following him. It is very amazing!!

Back on topic: Do you think Ronaldo will be able to reach the top scorer in the remaining 12 matches?
We don't know it. But it is not impossible for sure.
Ronaldo rarely gets injured, so he will have a big chance to score many goals.
But the match in Saudi Pro League isn't as easy as expected. Some clubs have a quite solid defense and it is hard for Ronaldo to score.

1713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How does regulation affect the future of cryptocurrency? on: February 17, 2023, 08:43:55 PM
Right now, it's an only effect in the short-term.

If there has some news like the "Ban" example from China, it's not effect anymore because repeated news. For the news "accepted" crypto, the good things is always we can gain more user into crypto.

But sometimes the regulation is always can be change like China did.
The issue of China crypto ban may not affect globally anymore but it affects the future of crypto development in China. When China bans crypto totally, crypto will be difficult to develop there because of some limitations. Local exchanges will be closed, it should kill the desire/hope of people to have crypto coins. There will be no crypto activities in that country if the ban is applied for a long time. Finally, crypto activities in China will disappear if no change in the regulation.

Yep. In fact, the regulation is often changed. Not only in China, but it is also applied to other countries.


1714  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Helped my neighbor to purchase some Bitcoins on: February 17, 2023, 08:31:20 PM
~I told him it's simple but the risk is huge. made him understand that holding Bitcoin is simple, but the risk of losing your starting capital is high, and that before you can consider buying and holding Bitcoin, you should prepare your mind to count loss sometimes, which can later turn to profit if you don't sell out of panic. Ask him to go and think about it first before rushing into it, and when he has come to a conclusion and is ready to accept the risk and take responsibility for anything himself, he should let me know.
It is the right way to let him know about the big risk of Bitcoin investment. To be successful in Bitcoin investment isn't as easy as people think. The price of Bitcoin is very volatile and it is sometimes unpredictable. Your neighbor needs to know how big the risk of Bitcoin investment, so they are aware of the potential risks in the future if he is ready to invest in Bitcoin. And let him invest with his own will, so he won't blame you if he fails then.

The crypto was deposited into his funding wallet. since he was already participating in airdrops and had a crypto wallet on his phone. I asked him to copy out all the phrases from the old wallet into his mobile wallet and back it up in a safe place where he would be the only one to access it. When he was done, I asked him to wipe the app data, and the mobile wallet was as clean as a new wallet. switch off the internet connection and create a new wallet again. After the successful creation of the wallet, I asked him to write down the new phrase and safe-keep it again, which he did successfully. We then generated a new Bitcoin address, which was used to withdraw the purchased Bitcoin to his private wallet, over which he has control. 
He asked me why not just leave the coin on Binance so that when ever he wants to sell it, he can just use the same method; that's when I brought to his notice "Not your key, not your coin," and he was convinced.
So, finally, in what wallet he keeps the Bitcoin? I know you said that he keeps it in a private wallet, but what wallet is it? Makes sure you choose a safe private wallet like Segwit or hardware wallets. Better to avoid keeping it in new app wallets, or to hold it in the wallets of new crypto projects. Only choose trusted private wallets only!!

1715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: February 16, 2023, 09:34:04 PM
I think Barcelona's performance against Manchester United today was a proof of how much more they care about the La Liga title compared to the Europa League one.

Because they had really serious issues about having the control in their hands during the match. This just helped Manchester United come more to their goal and the final result was 2-2. With this performance level I don't have much faith in Barcelona to eliminate them. Maybe nothing has finished but their job is going to be very difficult in Old Trafford. Manchester United defeated Manchester City there and they can do it against Barcelona as well I believe. Actually it would be nice for Barcelona to focus on not only the La Liga because the Europa League also would be helpful for improving their financial status more.
La Liga title may be more prestigious but I don't see Barcelona isn't serious in this match. They use a full team, they played with full key players. But Man United is a strong team, they are difficult to be defeated. I am sure Man United is very serious to win this competition, too. So, Barcelona can't expect that they will be easy to win against Man United and dream to play in the final round of Europa League. With this result, Barcelona isn't in a good situation to qualify for the next round. I also think that Man United has a bigger opportunity to win the second Leg and qualify for the next round.

1716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 16, 2023, 09:19:57 PM
A difficult match for Real Madrid later, because Liverpool will be playing at home although Liverpool are currently in a poor performance in the Premier League, but in the UCL this team is very dangerous. Previously, in the UCL final Real Madrid lucky to win because Liverpool really dominated that match, so I personally would not favor Real Madrid in this first leg.
I don't think the match will be difficult for Real Madrid.
It is very obvious that Liverpool performance looks very bad lately, they are no longer as strong as in the previous season. In EPL, they are even only in 9th place. In UCL, they are lucky that they can qualify for the current round, they still didn't face so strong opponents previously. Real Madrid is a specialist for UCL title, they will have no problem facing Liverpool. Moreover, with the current condition with Liverpool, I assume Real Madrid will be easier to defeat them with convincing goals. It will be no problem that the match to be in Liverpool home, it is not the first time to face Liverpool in Anfield.

1717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC or altcoin on: February 16, 2023, 09:03:57 PM
I think Bitcoin has no options when it comes to investment.  Because if someone was asked between bitcoin and ALT coin should you invest, I think everyone would say to invest in bitcoin. Because Bitcoin invests in a trust that no other coin can provide. So I would always agree with investing in Bitcoin.
Not every investor will choose Bitcoin only for their investment although Bitcoin is the safest crypto coin. It is because altcoins offer the opportunity for bigger potential profits. We know that altcoins are more volatile, the values can increase more significantly. People who expect bigger profits, must try to invest in altcoins, too. I also do it, I don't invest in Bitcoin only but I invest in some crypto coins to optimize the chance of profits in the future. I think there are many people who diversify their assets, too.

1718  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving is Wasting? on: February 16, 2023, 08:56:29 PM
I wouldn't say it's wasting, but it does become pointless at a certain point, especially if you're already well settled in life. There's balance in everything.
What balance do you mean?  Huh

Yup. It is not wasting, saving means preparing reserved money for the future.
If we have savings, we won't be confused whenever we need some money in the future. We may have urgent needs in the future, so we must spend some money at that time. That's why we must have savings to ensure that we can deal with that situation.

However, if you expect profits, you may view it as "wasting/pointless".
Saving doesn't gain profits, it is different from an investment that offers profits in the future.

1719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 16, 2023, 08:47:41 PM
In the case of Jude Bellingham, I can not see him going to Chelsea anytime soon. He’s presently being sought after by big European clubs like Manchester City, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Liverpool and now Chelsea. I think he’s likely to go to Liverpool than to go to Chelsea. If he comes over to Chelsea, I bet he would seek some playing time and with so many midfielders players in Chelsea (though injured at the moment)it won’t be easy.  More also, the little influence the father would have in his decision making. He’s young and needs a lot of playing time and needs a club that would give him just that.
I agree, he is unlikely to move to Chelsea. I assume he only to move to a big club like Real Madrid or Man City. He must expect to play at UCL competition, he won't to move to a club that will play at no international competition. So, he also won't move to Liverpool, too. Liverpool seems to have no chance to play at UCL next season. There are many top clubs that often play at UCL interested in him, he must prefer to choose them.

1720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: February 15, 2023, 09:46:50 PM
it's actually 3:0 in Favor of Real Madrid, and it's half-time. Benzema scored yet again. It's the much-needed goals for Real Madrid to edge them closer to winning this match. They will be trying to chase down their rivals Barcelona, who are at the summit of the La Liga.

I know that there are more matches to be played, but personally I think it's too late for Real Madrid.
Modric makes a goal, Real Madrid leads with 4 goals now. They secure 3 points today and they continue to chase Barcelona in the first place.
You can say that Real Madrid is too late to chase Barcelona, but I don't think so. As long as there are many remaining matches, it is not impossible for Real Madrid. We don't know what to happen with Barcelona in the next few matches, they can drop their performance and gets a problem with injured players. However, I agree that the chance to win the title for Real Madrid is smaller since Barcelona is leading the table with a quite big point gap.

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