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1761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 11:12:05 PM
LoL The IOTA scam has not even been released but it is already at the solid third place on the scam list with 26 votes. Keep up the good work IOTA scammers, developers, shills and sockpuppets. The first place is within reach.

Given the forums we are in, it's more likely that people are realizing the price of IOTA is rising and are now angry and jelly they missed the ICO than they are thinking or caring whether it is a scam.

A more honest result would be obtained from a "which project you want to see crash and burn" poll.

MISSED the ICO is the correct term.

Not decided to not invest.

[...]

After NXT CFB didn't consider getting a wider distribution that less than 1% of the board??

Now though the price is 30x more because people changed their minds about investing?

Come on this is shady as hell.  NXT ok got away with it once. JINN i dont know about. IOTA no way!!

I stand corrected. I thought I had the chance to buy the ICO, but now I realize by the time I found out about Iota, the ICO was over. There was something about you had to have invested in JINN before to get in on the ICO or something I forget exactly.

They weave a maze to try to obfuscate.
1762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: AmericanPegasus initiates coverage on Sia. (Siacoin speculation topic) on: March 10, 2016, 10:28:21 PM
I do ask that you don't smear insults throughout your posts because it makes it difficult to see your technical arguments and distracts from your core points.

It adds no difficulty. Don't be disingenuous.

It is because after 10,000+ posts, an endless stream of idiots causes me to have to repeat the same technical points over and over and over and over and over and over...

The insults are intended to shame them into doing some reading before posting or investing. After 10,000+ posts, I think I deserve to express such frustration. If you don't, you are free to ignore me.

The second problem is that you are citing some pretty old information about how Sia works, and you are missing some important details that help bring the system together and secure it.

It doesn't matter. The issue I cited is insoluble. You will never find a technical solution. Ever.

The first technical argument you make is that "anyone can pretend to be running many nodes and keep it all stored on one node". I'm not sure if you are talking about a deduplication attack here, or just a standard Sybil attack.

Sybil attack as I had stated. I never mentioned deduplication.

The Sybil attack is, in my qualified opinion, the weakest part of the Sia protocol. But we do have sufficient defense against it, and that comes in the form of proof-of-burn.

Nope. I already explained why staking (analogously burning) doesn't provide sufficient security.

Also you talk about shorting a coin and then using the money raised from shorting it to attack it. You would need to buy the short from somewhere, and you'd need enough money to both buy the shorts and then have enough to do the proof-of-burn. I'm doubting that someone would let you short a massive volume of some asset, if you are shorting that much they would probably get suspicious.

An illiquid coin is rather useless. If that is your goal, then you are stating it won't be widely adopted.

Edit: note that shorting isn't required to break the economic model for the security. The staked (deposited and risked) or burned coins can be offset by earnings and in fact must be, otherwise no one will be a storage provider.

Also I was the one who invented proof-of-storage in 2013. I abandoned it because the Sybil attack is insoluble. I am the inventor of the shit.
1763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Elastic - Scam or legit? on: March 10, 2016, 10:11:23 PM
You are simply the most intelligent person walking the planet. How could possibly anyone of us subhumans (that includes me and the IOTA devs) ever come up with an argument that holds up to your expectations? I guess this is the reason why we just don't.

Evil, it really does you no credit to respond to criticism with snarling sarcasm.

It is a useful obfuscation technique when a technical refutation is unavailable.
1764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 10:09:31 PM
What part of "put up or shut up" do you not understand is central to (USA) American culture.

All parts maybe, you should give me a discount because English is my third language and I studied it by reading Java documentation.

haha. Okay that is cool hacker joke (even if true).

Again I sort of like you. But I also have problems with your association with characters of the sort as David.

But any way, how about we stop this. I need to sleep. You would prefer to be coding I am sure.
1765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 10:04:38 PM
And yeah I guess when you are making so much money on Nxt and JINN/Iota, that messing around with backing up your claims with actual evidence is just a waste of time.

Sorry if I insulted you by neglecting your opinion about me. If you want to insult me back you should learn Russian.

What part of "put up or shut up" do you not understand is central to (USA) American culture.

When having a discussion, I expect the other side to not be disingenuous. You made claims then didn't follow through.

I already have high doubts on you because you associate with David, who threatened to sue me for speaking freely about the USA securities law. I also doubt you because of the comment you made that the USA doesn't run the world, thus you don't feel threatened by USA securities law. But the fact is the USA does run the world and Putin is in bed with the USA. I have a feeling you are going to learn the hard way about the importance of ethics.
1766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:56:17 PM
I presented all my facts on the coins. Including yours. The poll in my opinion reflects the unrefuted facts I have been presenting. I am pleasantly surprised to see how many readers have realized the truth about most altcoins.

One could argue that everyone is voting against the coins they don't own. So in that case, the poll is not informational on specific coins, except that it indicates the entire forum is unethical. However I don't think this is the case, because Monero has a low vote. I would think there would be more haters voting against Monero even though Monero appears to not be a scam.

I still suggest to create that special poll about your tech points 2016. We may get surprising results. But I don't care enough to make the poll myself.

If you make a poll, you need to provide at least one example. Otherwise you are just obfuscating as you are doing here by refusing to provide an example, refusing to provide evidence, refusing to respond to the nonsense you wrote about meritocracy, etc.

This thread has painted you in a new light for me.
1767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:54:20 PM
I know nothing about this. Please provide proof, because I certainly wouldn't want to be associated with this. I don't believe you until you provide proof.

Not incentivized enough, it will change nothing in my life.

See what I wrote about Eastern European programmers preferring the most return for the least work. Ethics aside.

And yeah I guess when you are making so much money on Nxt and JINN/Iota, that messing around with backing up your claims with actual evidence is just a waste of time.

Understood.
1768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:50:17 PM
That will work to obfuscate that you and Levole11 failed to provide a counter example and let me explain why you are wrong.

Obfuscation is a talent you take pride in?

I prefer to be more transparent and direct.

Then what were you trying to obfuscate by creating this poll? I just suggest to use the same trick.

I presented all my facts on the coins. Including yours. The poll in my opinion reflects the unrefuted facts I have been presenting. I am pleasantly surprised to see how many readers have realized the truth about most altcoins.

One could argue that everyone is voting against the coins they don't own. So in that case, the poll is not informational on specific coins, except that it indicates the entire forum is unethical. However I don't think this is the case, because Monero has a low vote. I would think there would be more haters voting against Monero even though Monero appears to not be a scam.
1769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:45:03 PM
LoL The IOTA scam has not even been released but it is already at the solid third place on the scam list with 26 votes. Keep up the good work IOTA scammers, developers, shills and sockpuppets. The first place is within reach.

Given the forums we are in, it's more likely that people are realizing the price of IOTA is rising and are now angry and jelly they missed the ICO than they are thinking or caring whether it is a scam.

Yes I think that may be the case. I've seen some complaints by people who say they weren't aware of the ICO and now can't buy in at a reasonable price. They also complain about transparency.

I was aware of Iota early on (because someone PM'ed me asking me about my opinion of it) so I could have bought in, but I didn't because I analyzed the technology and was confident it is flawed. Also I was immediately turned off by David (iotatoken)'s unbalanced hyping of it. I don't invest for short-term gains. I invest for the big enchilada over the long-term.
1770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:40:13 PM
Purchased for $1000s (you claim 25 of them) just to vote on this shit poll  Roll Eyes

The dude has already owned a lot to pump coins he invested into. This is how he conducts scams like the one in GadgetCoin prevented by me.

I know nothing about this. Please provide proof, because I certainly wouldn't want to be associated with this. I don't believe you until you provide proof (or at least strong correlation evidence) that he did purchase and use them to conduct a scam.

I think this entire forum is shark infested. So I don't totally think you are wrong, but I also can't accept your statement without some evidence.
1771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:38:07 PM
Hahaha.. that coming from you!!!

Will you take my bet or not?

I think we can do it in a more elegant way by creating a poll with 3 options:
- TPTB's tech points made in 2016 were refuted
- TPTB's tech points made in 2016 were not refuted
- Who is TPTB?

That will work to obfuscate that you and Levole11 failed to provide a counter example and let me explain why you are wrong.

Obfuscation is a talent you take pride in?

I prefer to be more transparent and direct.
1772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:33:18 PM
Have you obtained a statement from Theymos as to what level of account is required to vote?

Seems one needs to for a while before they can vote. I am also curious if the vote on Iota is a real reflection of forum sentiment.

Ever heard of the whole market of Hero member BTT accounts?

Purchased for $1000s (you claim 25 of them) just to vote on this shit poll  Roll Eyes
1773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:30:42 PM
I can

Do it.

Talk is cheap.
1774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:29:59 PM
LoL The IOTA scam has not even been released but it is already at the solid third place on the scam list with 26 votes. Keep up the good work IOTA scammers, developers, shills and sockpuppets. The first place is within reach.

You have only 25 sockpuppets?

Have you obtained a statement from Theymos as to what level of account is required to vote?

Seems one needs to post for a while before they can vote. I am also curious if the vote on Iota is a real reflection of forum sentiment.

Btw, I don't think you are helping yourself with the posts you are making here. You would have been wiser to say nothing in this thread. No one was focused on Iota before you started trolling me.
1775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:19:54 PM
my technology points were never refuted.

This is a lie, they were refuted a lot of times but you have never accepted that and labeled the opponents with different dirty words. Stick to the facts, please.

My technology points made in 2016 have not been refuted. Provide a counter example and I will explain how you are wrong.

Before 2016, I was still learning and researching, so there are some examples where I was corrected by others such as smooth and gmaxwell. I referring to recent history.
1776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 10, 2016, 09:17:52 PM
After the reality hits that the 2.0 coins are mostly hyped scams. Maybe the community will come back to the proof-of-work coins such as Litecoin and Monero.

Selling ETH and buying Litecoin and XMR might end up being a good trade at some point?
1777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:14:58 PM
Are you aware that this guy trolled many legit projects in here and when challenged to prove his claims backed off?

I never backed off and my technology points were never refuted.
1778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:14:01 PM
I was told (in May or June 2015) they try to find a way to earn the most money with the least work.

This gem has reminded me another one said by an Indian guy: I was talking about muslims as of terrorists until someone didn't talk of me as of a rapist.

Well true, Sergey Brin is apparently well accomplished. But he is in the USA and he has a LinkedIn account. But note afaik he is goofing off now and not the stable, serious leader of Google that Larry Page has become.
1779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL - which coins are scams as defined in the OP? on: March 10, 2016, 09:07:50 PM
How does one prepare to fund their retirement if they don't work for both an idea they believe in and for money  Huh

How do we reward a meritocracy if we don't account for higher productivity with money  Huh

I like to work for an ideal/idea also, but I also want to know that my collaborators and users will be more profitable from it.

Well, this forum keeps evidences of me giving 100'000+ USD worth coins (that were supposed to be my property) to the community. It was the real price at that moment and I wouldn't have a problem to cash them out into paper fiat money. So, your rhetorical questions somehow contradict to the observed reality. Maybe you should reconsider your ideals?

Huh  Huh

How does giving 1/100th of the money earned from the Nxt pump back to the majority who lost their money address my questions  Huh

This is the Communist philosophy that those who are clever or connected run away with the lion's share while everyone else gets "let them eat cake".
1780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Wait, what about Litecoin? on: March 10, 2016, 09:04:27 PM
After the reality hits that the 2.0 coins are mostly hyped scams. Maybe the community will come back to the proof-of-work coins such as Litecoin and Monero.

Selling ETH and buying Litecoin and XMR might end up being a good trade at some point?
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