Wow, "once a druggie, always a druggie"
That is absurd.
+1 That is not what I have observed in my life either, people are constantly changing their whole lives I hope you guys enjoy your STDs. The only way people change is for the worse. You can't rehabilitate anyone. Quoted in case later he comes to his senses and wants to delete this drivel. Edit: let's see how he likes the attitude of banishing those who acquired an illness (and we've established already that I have not tested positive on any of the numerous STD tests I have taken), when the 2018 pandemic begins or he is bitten by a Zika spreading mosquito. I have some family members who think man can control all the variables of life and there is no indeterminism in the universe. These are people who don't understand that the universe could not have a total order without the speed-of-light being infinite, which would collapse the past and future into the same infinitesimal point of nothingness in spacetime, because a total observer could not perceive all partial orders in real time otherwise. Thus his affliction is ignorance. |
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As you said, providing liquidity is a useful activity, and empirically Monero has had relatively high volume and relatively good liquidity (by which I mean strong order books) for most of its lifetime. Contrast that with coins that may have high volume during pumps, but turn into are ghost towns with pathetic order books the rest of the time.
This thread also happens to be the most popular alt discussion thread on the entire forum by a wide margin. Is that a coincidence, or is having a good, active venue where traders and long- and short-term speculators can communicate (sometimes seriously, sometimes more socially, sometimes ignorantly, sometimes informatively, sometimes manipulatively) part of what contributes to that liquidity?
I'm not sure it is really possible to separate out the factors that have made Monero as successful as it is.
It's certainly not for everyone though. If I were forced to consistently read the BTC wall observer thread, suicide would become an attractive alternative.
Good point. I wouldn't conceive of using humans as "wind up toys" (collateral damage) * as a way providing that liquidity though. I hope for another means to that end. * I guess there is a skill in every thing even I perceive it to be mundane, just doesn't correlate to my interests. For example, I am researching right now the a novel design for a new programming language. |
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Liar:
Cool it man! I mean facebook has by far the largest number of active users in the english speaking world, so for most people 'Facebook' is THE english speaking social network. I'm not claiming to be an expert in this area, and not trying to deliberately deceive, so calling me a liar is too strong. Ignorant I may be on many things, but not a liar. My point is that in terms of what Synereo's beta portends to do (decentralized social networking), there is a laundry list of competitors already. So to say that FB has no competition from decentralized social networks is true but to say it has no decentralized social networking competitors is BLATANTLY FALSE. You have given no justification for any feature that Synereo claims to have that would make the result for it any different than any of the other in laundry list of decentralized social networking projects. Thus you have provided no logical support to claim Synereo will get a lot of attention, when there are so many attempts before it (even which are ongoing projects). Well the reason I am posting adamantly is because I has already posted (in this thread) that information about the laundry list of competitors to Synereo two times before you posted (and by now four times). And you are making a statement to pump up the value of AMPs to n00bs who don't understand that what you wrote is BLATANTLY FALSE. I edited my post and changed "Liar" to "BLATANTLY FALSE". Apology for using the imprecise word. Please, please read the thread carefully before posting claims that could influence speculators to acquire or dispose of AMPs. |
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if the software works and the GUI is user friendly we could top 100M USD almost immediately. I don't like to over hype things, but this time it feels a tad different. If the Synereo team deliver the goods it'll generate a lot of attention as FB is so dominant, and doesn't have any real competition in the engslish peaking world.
LiarBLATANTLY FALSE: Decentralized social networking projects are not novel. The list is littered with failures as you were told already upthread[1]. |
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Sometimes,
I wonder if all "the whale is going do to this, and whale does that talk" is either from desperate traders or its a whale, smart enough to act like a concerned trader.
From what I've gathered most on these forums, is that anyone on bitcointalk (especially in the altcoin section) is desperate for attention or any thing that makes them seem "more wise" than the next person. Fact is, is that no one knows what EVERYONE is doing; and even if they were in some "secret whale group" that can possibly manipulate the market, there is plenty of other whales that can possibly manipulate too. I love how a lot of people say that they know some whale that is going to do something in the market, and then argues back and forth with other shit posters about who's whale is going to "win". If you really knew someone is going to do a huge sell or a huge buy, you wouldn't proclaim it... you would quietly buy/sell, sit back and watch. Precisely my impression of most of the useless posts in this thread.  You said it, not me. I would not relish lacking any desire or ability to actually be working on development of something and instead expending my days watching bid / ask walls, which in the following context seems to be akin to watching paint dry or counting the mosquitos inside my grass hut. Speculation is a productive activity. Even day trading is productive in the sense of providing liquidity. But pretending to be a day trader while being a conflicted shill (i.e. entirely handicapped from pursuing arbitrage), seems to be entirely pointless and/or some sort of objectiveless affliction of the incapable. |
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For those who still think global cooperation isn't coming: |
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I agree with this logic that says that where there is no pricing power then there is a Tragedy-of-the-Commons. I differ or call out distinction on the proportionalities and thus the Anti-fragility of vested interests which are small enough to attain more resilience to disruption. I'd agree with retort is that if its too small, then it can be disrupted by one with greater economies-of-scale. Its all about the correct balance for the market. The devil is in the details. I wildly ponder that Apple has its fingers in too many businesses that potentially compete with its own ecosystems, e.g. iTunes, Apple Music, Apple Pay, and the Appstore. IMO, that makes it more vulnerable, but as you say disruptions are long-tailed distributions. "1. The fecklessness of laissez-faire. Apple is famous for its closed hardware system, the PC is famous for open standards and competition. You would have thought we would all prefer an open system, but it can become chaotic. For example, Apple was able to build such an amazing iPhone because it owned both the software and hardware. This is another example of the famous Railway Privatization Problem in the UK which was designed to introduce competition but ended in chaos. A closed system is often associated with higher prices, but economies of scale can actually work to the advantage of a more monopolized market. Apple is gradually developing economies of scale no competitor can touch, what we are increasingly seeing today is a world in which Apple and its competitors sell their products at about the same price, but because Apple has economy of scale advantages it can offer a much higher quality product than its competitors. The biggest danger of a monopolized market is excessive prices, market prices settle at what consumers are willing to pay, whereas in a competitive market prices are supposed to converge on what it costs to produce. Lenin argued that free markets degenerate into monopolies earning excessive profits, but his collective ownership solution failed miserably. The trendy new theory on the block is Chinese State Capitalism which prevents companies from making excessive profits and abusing the market either by heavy handed regulation or state ownership."
"Steve Jobs imagined Apple as an efficient hive of bees minding their own business, he didn’t want a herd of group thinking sheep following each other round the field. The sheep herd’s failure to specialize, to mind one’s own business, creates both muddled thinking and wasteful duplication. I don't think Steve Jobs really mastered this kind of analysis because he emphasised a culture of secrecy and unquestioned authority in order to build the hive rather than a culture of expert debate, but he we surely quite a example to us all. What has all this to do with economics and politics? What we are saying here is that rational expectations and freedom of choice doesn’t work, the fundament capitalist idea that market price is the best measure of utility and competition is the best way to deliver it, is nonsense. The market price is just the sheep herds wavering opinion, and the stupidity of the herd derives from competitive duplication. In the same way democracy also fails.
These three arguments taken from the Apple-Microsoft example are insights into the wider debate swirling around the world today between the American and the Chinese economic models. Yet I am not suggesting authoritarian Apple should be boycotted in favour of democratic Windows/Linux. Wisdom, not ideology, should guide our purchasing." |
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On the non-logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broke down through the February pump support, and the next support is from the January support line which currently extends to about 0.0164 BTC ≈ $7: https://dc-charts.com/chart_eth.php?ex=16&cu=0&tz=6&ar=1On the logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broken down through all support lines and there is no support. |
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Got to admire the type of people who are investing in Synereo's AMPs: once a druggie, always a druggie.
Nope. Only alcohol now. I am sure of that. She hates marijuana now. And recently she got a job again putting the rivets into the airplanes we fly in. So you better stop flying Boeing. I don't think Synereo will want to be associated with you any more, because if people read about your proclamation that no one can improve themselves, then this present Synereo in a very bad public image if they don't disown your comments. Since you were the primary supporter of Synereo in this forum having started the discussion threads about it. |
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Come on... you don't honestly expect us to believe that you didn't know she was involved in drugs.
I knew she was doing marijuana and maybe a few rave parties. I didn't know the extent to which she had sunk at the low point. I wasn't communicating with her often. once a druggie, always a druggie.
Nope. Only alcohol now. I am sure of that. She hates marijuana now. And recently she got a job again putting the rivets into the airplanes we fly in. So you better stop flying Boeing. I don't think Synereo will want to be associated with you any more, because if people read about your proclamation that no one can improve themselves, then this present Synereo in a very bad public image if they don't disown your comments. Since you were the primary supporter of Synereo in this forum having started the discussion threads about it. "Blame it on the party culture or legal marijuana hippie culture" all you want. She made a conscious choice to do drugs and slept with drug dealers to get a free fix and contracted a STD because of it. Yes, I think holding your ex accountable for her actions is "fair".
I didn't make an excuse for her actions. I just accept the reality that people are influenced by factors in their life. And have some empathy and understanding for the hardships that people encounter. Of course, I also believe people have to fight their way out of their problems. And of course I believe very strongly in self-responsibility, which is why I have never accepted medical insurance assistance in my life. I strongly believe that you could not last one day trying to keep up with my daily discipline. Even in my weakened condition, your tongue will be dragging on the pavement if you try to keep up with my daily activity at age 51. I'd love it if you weren't too afraid to challenge me to some test like this. Not necessarily violent. We can merely spend the entire day running up the mountains in tropical swelting heat until you collapse like a little pussy. Well, I'm going to guess that your girlfriend has a STD now that she decided to sleep with you. What type of individual sleeps around with others if they think they (might) have a STD anyway?
I wear a condom idiot. And I have run every test for STD possible where I am and they are all negative. And you slandering someone behind their back who is not here to defend themselves. You seem to have absolutely no manners whatsoever. I thought you wanted to know where I lived so you could come fight me.
You said you would chase me out of your town. But last time I was in the USA, we were free to travel in any town in the country without be accosted by the locals. So I asked you to stop making anonymous threats and give your town name and also your real name. Nobody threatened you. You threatened to run me out of your town, and as I said that would be illegal in the USA. Perhaps you live in some hillbilly town where the Sheriff fucks his 3rd cousin who is your Aunt and mother. Or most likely, as I said, you are just a blowhard. |
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Nobody wants to use any of this shit, Bitcoin included.
Not entirely true. I used Bitcoin to receive funding/donations/loans and mostly not for HODLing. This was cross-border without hardly any fees and no need to know the identity of whom I was dealing with. We bypassed the bank wire tsuris. Many have used Bitcoin to do "anonymous" activities. Sorry I think you are wrong here smooth. Bitcoin has a use case for large value transfers. This is why I think Monero may have more value than people realize now. Stores that accept Bitcoin usually do so via payment processors and auto-dump it. Accepting Bitcoin via payment processors is like an affiliate program for them; they don't care about the currency at all, it is just about traffic.
Agreed, but note they don't accept the other altcoins because the other altcoins don't provide that traffic (free advertising) boost and the altcoins aren't liquid enough to hedge to fiat they want to be paid in. It just all doesn't serve any purpose that any sane mainstream person would care about, outside of a SHTF scenario.
Disagree. It is just that the use case is a fairly small % of the population. No one has yet focused on the masses use case. As you know, I am focused on that with my non-existent vaporware. Trying design after design in a futile effort to chase "adoption" is churning investors to pay developer salaries. Bitshares investors are among the biggest suckers, since they paid (and I guess continue to pay, although I don't follow it closely) the Larimers to develop something which serves little to no purpose as decentralized crypto but can now be used as a vehicle to be paid again by banks for "blockchain".
Well I agree when they have no adoption and no viable plan to attain it. Bitcoin investors shouldn't pay for adoption until the adoption is already there. That is my plan. |
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I do believe in Monero in the longrun, honestly I cant afford to invest alot though. should I see how it goes with say $25 or $50....and what price should I be looking to score XMR at? Sorry for the noob questions <3
Nobody knows. How about investing because it is the right thing to support and you believe in it ideologically. Instead of investing for profit. What ever profit you get, consider that icing. |
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Following up on my recent statements about Monero being possibly the most free market alternative to Bitcoin's scalecolapyse and also the added strong privacy: Nobody wants to use any of this shit, Bitcoin included.
Not entirely true. I used Bitcoin to receive funding/donations/loans and mostly not for HODLing. This was cross-border without hardly any fees and no need to know the identity of whom I was dealing with. We bypassed the bank wire tsuris. Many have used Bitcoin to do "anonymous" activities. Sorry I think you are wrong here smooth. Bitcoin has a use case for large value transfers. This is why I think Monero may have more value than people realize now. Stores that accept Bitcoin usually do so via payment processors and auto-dump it. Accepting Bitcoin via payment processors is like an affiliate program for them; they don't care about the currency at all, it is just about traffic.
Agreed, but note they don't accept the other altcoins because the other altcoins don't provide that traffic (free advertising) boost and the altcoins aren't liquid enough to hedge to fiat they want to be paid in. It just all doesn't serve any purpose that any sane mainstream person would care about, outside of a SHTF scenario.
Disagree. It is just that the use case is a fairly small % of the population. No one has yet focused on the masses use case. As you know, I am focused on that with my non-existent vaporware. Trying design after design in a futile effort to chase "adoption" is churning investors to pay developer salaries. Bitshares investors are among the biggest suckers, since they paid (and I guess continue to pay, although I don't follow it closely) the Larimers to develop something which serves little to no purpose as decentralized crypto but can now be used as a vehicle to be paid again by banks for "blockchain".
Well I agree when they have no adoption and no viable plan to attain it. Bitcoin investors shouldn't pay for adoption until the adoption is already there. That is my plan. |
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Nobody wants to use any of this shit, Bitcoin included.
Not entirely true. I used Bitcoin to receive funding/donations/loans and mostly not for HODLing. This was cross-border without hardly any fees and no need to know the identity of whom I was dealing with. We bypassed the bank wire tsuris. Many have used Bitcoin to do "anonymous" activities. Sorry I think you are wrong here smooth. Bitcoin has a use case for large value transfers. This is why I think Monero may have more value than people realize now. Stores that accept Bitcoin usually do so via payment processors and auto-dump it. Accepting Bitcoin via payment processors is like an affiliate program for them; they don't care about the currency at all, it is just about traffic.
Agreed, but note they don't accept the other altcoins because the other altcoins don't provide that traffic (free advertising) boost and the altcoins aren't liquid enough to hedge to fiat they want to be paid in. It just all doesn't serve any purpose that any sane mainstream person would care about, outside of a SHTF scenario.
Disagree. It is just that the use case is a fairly small % of the population. No one has yet focused on the masses use case. As you know, I am focused on that with my non-existent vaporware. Trying design after design in a futile effort to chase "adoption" is churning investors to pay developer salaries. Bitshares investors are among the biggest suckers, since they paid (and I guess continue to pay, although I don't follow it closely) the Larimers to develop something which serves little to no purpose as decentralized crypto but can now be used as a vehicle to be paid again by banks for "blockchain".
Well I agree when they have no adoption and no viable plan to attain it. Bitcoin investors shouldn't pay for adoption until the adoption is already there. That is my plan. |
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Nobody wants to use any of this shit, Bitcoin included.
Not entirely true. I used Bitcoin to receive funding/donations/loans and mostly not for HODLing. This was cross-border without hardly any fees and no need to know the identity of whom I was dealing with. We bypassed the bank wire tsuris. Many have used Bitcoin to do "anonymous" activities. Sorry I think you are wrong here smooth. Bitcoin has a use case for large value transfers. This is why I think Monero may have more value than people realize now. Stores that accept Bitcoin usually do so via payment processors and auto-dump it. Accepting Bitcoin via payment processors is like an affiliate program for them; they don't care about the currency at all, it is just about traffic.
Agreed, but note they don't accept the other altcoins because the other altcoins don't provide that traffic (free advertising) boost and the altcoins aren't liquid enough to hedge to fiat they want to be paid in. It just all doesn't serve any purpose that any sane mainstream person would care about, outside of a SHTF scenario.
Disagree. It is just that the use case is a fairly small % of the population. No one has yet focused on the masses use case. As you know, I am focused on that with my non-existent vaporware. Trying design after design in a futile effort to chase "adoption" is churning investors to pay developer salaries. Bitshares investors are among the biggest suckers, since they paid (and I guess continue to pay, although I don't follow it closely) the Larimers to develop something which serves little to no purpose as decentralized crypto but can now be used as a vehicle to be paid again by banks for "blockchain".
Well I agree when they have no adoption and no viable plan to attain it. Bitcoin investors shouldn't pay for adoption until the adoption is already there. That is my plan. |
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On the non-logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broke down through the February pump support, and the next support is from the January support line which currently extends to about 0.0164 BTC ≈ $7: https://dc-charts.com/chart_eth.php?ex=16&cu=0&tz=6&ar=1On the logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broken down through all support lines and there is no support. |
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On the non-logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broke down through the February pump support, and the next support is from the January support line which currently extends to about 0.0164 BTC ≈ $7: https://dc-charts.com/chart_eth.php?ex=16&cu=0&tz=6&ar=1On the logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broken down through all support lines and there is no support. |
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