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1761  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: March 28, 2016, 07:23:01 PM
Well gold i belives is something harder to sell and to buy as should require your documentacion,since ists a regulamented business,bitcoin has no such restrictions soo the sky is the limit,i would go for bitcoin.

depending where you live - the world is a big place.
1762  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Easter on: March 27, 2016, 07:44:18 PM
Anyone else notice there is no little animation or sketch on Google's homepage for Easter.

Let's see what happens at Ramadan.
1763  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Easter on: March 27, 2016, 06:58:38 PM
Is it really needed to make any political statement keep it friendly.

I was refering to the post above -




Muslims Say That Easter Egg Hunt ‘Violates the U.S. Constitution’








Muslim parents in Dearborn, Michigan are upset after elementary school students received flyers promoting an Easter Egg hunt at a local Presbyterian church.

The parents say the egg hunt “violates the U.S. Constitution”.

The Muslims told the Detroit Free-Press that they were concerned about the religious implications of Cherry Hill Presbyterian Church’s “Eggstravaganza!”

They were also “troubled” by images of a bunny rabbit.

    “It really bothered my two kids,” parent Majed Moughni, told the newspaper. “My son was like, ‘Dad, I really don’t feel comfortable getting these flyers, telling me to go to church. I thought churches are not supposed to mix with schools.’ ”

The school district did not comment and the pastor of the church said there’s nothing remotely religious about the event.

    “Part of our efforts in Dearborn is to invite the community to let them know we’re here,” Pastor Neeta Nichols told the newspaper. “We’re offering various kinds of programming, fun opportunities, so what we can be engaged with the community.”


http://toprightnews.com/muslims-say-that-easter-egg-hunt-violates-the-u-s-constitution/






So yes it is necessary as yet again the Muslims are trying to get the indigenous population to change their way of life to suit them.


The sooner we get this race war done and dusted the better, the asylum seekers will reverse direction and go back to where they came from and we'll all be a lot happier afterwards.


1764  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Easter on: March 27, 2016, 06:52:12 PM
The Easter Bunny says "Fuck off Muslims!"

1765  Economy / Economics / Re: America's new debt ceiling - $19,600,000,000,000 on: March 27, 2016, 02:06:54 PM
America's new debt ceiling - $19,600,000,000,000 (thats in the trillions if you were not sure)

Thats $60,000 debt for every man, woman and child in the country.

Ticking timebomb waiting to blow, keeping the gold nicely polished waiting for the day Smiley


But the people in that country have more than $60,000 in wealth in the house and other properties. So they think they can pay it back.

No they dont, most people's houses are mortgaged and part of the debt.

And its $60k per man, woman and child so equates to short of 1/4 million dollars per household of 2 adults 2 children.

The fact there are still people out there that think $19 trillion dollars debt isnt a problem kinda shocks me.



1766  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS are the good guys. They fight the Antichrist Brussels on: March 27, 2016, 12:46:20 PM
ISIS are not terrorists. They are revolutioners like the revolutioners of 1821 in Greece.

your a fucking idiot.

If you support them you are no better than them.

Perhaps you should be hung for treason.
1767  Economy / Economics / Re: Platinum as an Investment? on: March 26, 2016, 04:31:14 PM
Where does the value from platinum come from, it's rarity or its utility?

Both, rarer than gold and unique properties as a catalyst.

Platinum has priced higher than gold for a long period but has recently started trading lower than gold per oz.

Could be a good time to speculate on a small amount.

Someone mentioned artificial substitutes, so the utility factor could be fleeting or temporary. I wouldn't go too big on the speculation. Gold is more reliable, but even gold over very long arcs basically tracks inflation, so it's not really increasing wealth but maintaining. Speculating on any metal is just like gambling in the short term, and just maintaining wealth in the long term. The stock market is still the best place to actually increase wealth. (In my opinion, obviously, but there's plenty of data to support it.)

Yes it was me Smiley

They are in development but not there yet.

Short term I would consider a little platinum.
1768  Economy / Economics / Re: Platinum as an Investment? on: March 26, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
Where does the value from platinum come from, it's rarity or its utility?

Both, rarer than gold and unique properties as a catalyst.

Platinum has priced higher than gold for a long period but has recently started trading lower than gold per oz.

Could be a good time to speculate on a small amount.
1769  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: March 26, 2016, 03:45:06 PM
I prefer bitcoin because I have some experience in trading or mining .


Bitcoin is real user friendly when it comes to trading and mining,unlike in gold its hard to mine it or even do trades with it in the real world.
if you trade gold/usd you require large capital and money would need more than $1,200
furthermore benefit will you get just a little bit. because the price movement of gold is very stable
in contrast to trade altcoin and bitcoin

You do realise that gold can be purchased in quantities smaller than 1 troy oz  Roll Eyes
1770  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: March 26, 2016, 01:22:04 PM
I prefer bitcoin because I have some experience in trading or mining .


Bitcoin is real user friendly when it comes to trading and mining,unlike in gold its hard to mine it or even do trades with it in the real world.

a) doesnt the fact that gold is hard to mine give it more value?

And as I posted above -


Every heard of bullionvault or goldmoney?

Long established companies with multiple vaults across the world.  Gold is indpendantly audited monthly and what you buy is physical gold held in a vault not dodgy paper promises, you can also take delivery if you wish.

Can be bought and sold instantly.

https://www.bullionvault.com/

1771  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: March 25, 2016, 08:35:58 PM
I find quite amusing that people here keep spouting off that gold is dying and bitcoin is taking over.

I have no emotional attachment to any investment but these guys are 100% crypto focused geeks that have no idea of the larger world.

You have to realise that -

a) Bitcoin is a gamble, nothing more nothing less.  Great to invest a small portion of your wealth in.

b) Gold is your insurance, when the financial system goes tits up people always flee to gold for safety driving the price up, about 20% of your wealth.

c) The rest spread through property investments, stocks and shares - Investments that produce income and return on your money.

Bitcoin is taking over from Gold
Bitcoin currently has 0.086% of gold's market cap - get a grip and rejoin reality.

If gold is dying why is china and russia litterally buying it by the tonne every month?
The people that advise these countries are far more intelligent than most of you here, plus they have insider knowledge that you wont know until its too late.

Why is the West selling their gold to China/Russia?
Simply because they are bankrupt.  The US and Europe are insolvent and have past the point of no return, they are desperate for cash and will do anything to get it including starting wars for natural resources.

Bitcoin is great, the price only ever goes up and is about to go the moon
Same shit constantly quoted here.  If this is the case then why hasnt any large banker organisation, hedge fund or any other large financial institution just come along and purchased a few hundred million $ worth of bitcoin.  They could easily do this.

Bitcoin will become a global curreny/reserve currency/overtake xxx currency
No government/bank will ever allow this to happen, money is control over sheeple and they are not about to give up that power any time soon.
You people are mearly Beta testers for crypto currency.
When the bankers are happy it works and is secure they will release a version they control then ban bitcoin globally with large fines/prison terms for those caught using it.

Gold price is too stable/Bitcoin price volatility makes it easy to earn loads of money
If its that easy then why arent all you dumb fuckers stinking rich and out living life rather than trawling this forum daily Wink

1772  Economy / Economics / Re: Platinum as an Investment? on: March 25, 2016, 08:47:30 AM
In the UK a hundred or so years ago they used to use platinum to make make fake gold sovereigns because the metal was so much cheaper!

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/A-Counterfeit-Sovereign-struck-in-Platinum-/121711337603
1773  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: March 25, 2016, 08:41:57 AM
Can i choose both ,but if only one ..it is bitcoin ,bitcoin have a more potential to rise and rise its value from time to time ,so if we kept the bitcoin future we will gain big profits.
Gold i think it is a little bit slowly movin.


Gold is really moving slow right now and bitcoin is moving fast its because bitcoin can be access through internet and you can buy and trade with ease unlike gold its not conventional to trade right now.

Every heard of bullionvault or goldmoney?

Long established companies with multiple vaults across the world.  Gold is indpendantly audited monthly and what you buy is physical gold held in a vault not dodgy paper promises, you can also take delivery if you wish.

Can be bought and sold instantly.

https://www.bullionvault.com/
1774  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: March 25, 2016, 08:40:23 AM
I hate the ancestor of muslims not the present one. No one is born evil you know.

Except ginger people - they have no souls  Cheesy
1775  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Can you sell 40-50BTC per week? Please PM me. on: March 24, 2016, 07:31:35 PM
PayPal obviously  Grin
1776  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: March 24, 2016, 02:47:57 PM
So how much gold have you bought and sold?

At a guess none.

I have bought and sold gold for quite a few years now, not once have been asked for I.D selling gold at any time.


100,000 retails globaly, like I said about 0.000001% then.

Currently I have approx $75k worth of gold so know what I am talking about.

How much do you have invested in bitcoin I wonder?
1777  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: March 24, 2016, 02:39:24 PM

Yes me too. Gold will not survive in the future and that is the problem, because the world is becoming more digital and that is good for Bitcoin.
Gold is now many used, but you can see now that it is reducing so that is quite bad.
And you see that Bitcoin is becoming more popular.

Not sure where you are getting your facts, actually I do your making them up.

Gold not being digital is a bonus, there is no 3rd party risk.  It does not need a computer, internet, supporting network and software.  You hold it you own it.

As for gold demand reducing the complete oposite is true.

Suggest you read up on the facts before posting garbage.

gold can not be used directly to buy stuff can it? i don't remember now

you need always to dump it for fiat, also there is plenty of details(you identity also) to give to the guy who you're going to sell it, it's not hassles free

bitcoin it's hassles free that's why i like it

You like to keep spouting the same crap too.

You do not need to give any I.D to sell gold (maybe where you live but not here)

Dont forget, most countried actually have gold legal tender coins, so in theory most countries in world you can buy goods directly with gold.

What % of global retailers accept bitcoin as a form of payment, 0.000001% ?

I bet more stores globaly would accept gold for payment than bitcoin, problem is people on this forum live in a bitcoin bubble where everyone else here is like minded.

@ Amph, how much gold have you ever actually owned cause you keep posting like you are an expert on the subject?
1778  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: March 24, 2016, 02:33:03 PM

Yes me too. Gold will not survive in the future and that is the problem, because the world is becoming more digital and that is good for Bitcoin.
Gold is now many used, but you can see now that it is reducing so that is quite bad.
And you see that Bitcoin is becoming more popular.

Not sure where you are getting your facts, actually I do your making them up.

Gold not being digital is a bonus, there is no 3rd party risk.  It does not need a computer, internet, supporting network and software.  You hold it you own it.

As for gold demand reducing the complete oposite is true.



Suggest you read up on the facts before posting garbage.
1779  Other / Politics & Society / Re: people care for Brussels more than Ankara ! on: March 23, 2016, 10:28:54 PM
Well there seems to be hell of a lot of evidence and people pointing the finger at Turkey for buying ISIS oil.

Have a look on google for yourself.

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=turkey+buying+isis+oil

Im sure they have shown satelite footage of a convoy of tankers heading out of ISIS controlled territory directly to Turkey.

p.s. dont shoot the messenger Wink
1780  Economy / Economics / Re: Platinum as an Investment? on: March 23, 2016, 10:25:00 PM
Quote

You can also get rhodium coins and bars.

http://www.goldline.co.uk/rhodium-bars.page


Quote
Thanks.  The spread is huge:  $135 per ounce, where the bid is $750.

plus in the UK we would have another 20% VAT on top of that Sad

You could try dabbling in an allocated pool.  Metal is audited and secure, spreads are lower and quick and easy to sell.

Always keep your main holding of gold as physical in your posession though Wink
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