I read on CryptOcean website that they'll be listed on exchanges on the 10th of December this year which will be when the ecosystem is fully-functioning. I don't know how I feel about waiting this long for listing.
Exchange listing will be on 10th December? And whats the last date for ICO /main sale? Recently I am observing many projects doing such things. I mean delay in listing, until product is ready. Yeah and also you should know that they are working with a timetable, they will want to ensure success so all conditions needs to be met before listing The market is down anyways so it is maybe a bad idea to list it fast. There would just some sell orders who want coins for low prices. It is better to not hurry. It’s never a bad idea market conditions are unknowable Waiting for an entry might just result in an even lower entry of a projects solid and you think it’s gonna grow in future the sooner the listing the better, the team will most likely list once ico is done and the platforms ready to handle trading You are right. You can never know what is going to happen in the crypto world. Most of the Icos will list their coin in a few weeks after the ICO. Sometimes extending it will upset investors. The thing im worried about is that alot of crypto investors want quick returns. I think the face that the exchange listing is so far away may scare a fair few people away from the project. Yes but people forget that it is the hold and patience that can make a Token/Coin rise a lot these days but i understand that they want an exchange fast. I think most people want to see how the token will deal in the market.. Like me i just want to see how people value the token. Will the price be higher or lower nothing else |
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thanks for sharing, that gives a good idea what drives superbloom. And I think it's good that they buy the same tokens as we do. but they make reviews of the icos they list, so the risk is probably also lower I like that wording aligned incentives, but your right the fact that they have reviews and put effort into actually grading the ICOs they are dealing with is an improvement to how people normally deal with investments and will add a new metric people can use for investing It changes everything about investment in the blockchain world. Imagine if i plan in investing in an ico i would just go to superbloom and check on the recommended ico and pick any. Such ease |
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Awesome news guys. Vanig vp just announced that the mvp is out.. You can find it on their site https://vanig.io/ together with the user guide.. It is recommended you read.. Off to check it out. Wow. That's great. Finally, the long waiting MVP is out. What an awesome way to crown the month's activity up. Thanks for sharing this friend, I too will go check it out. Been hearing it was coming for a while good to hear they got this step out the door it’s a pretty major move and should put the project on a good position to move forward time will tell how people react to it I’m gonna go spend some time playing with it in a bit I think now the MVP is out a lot of investors will get interested in Vanig i am surprised they did not post anything about it on their social media? Same here.. Got the info from the telegram group.. It seems they just want a few people to test it out first before announcing it to the whole public. |
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People seem to forget that hackers aren’t exactly easy to catch just because an ip is a source of an attack doesn’t mean that’s the attacker it could just be an insecure network being used to relay an attackers actions that’s why most smalltime hacks don’t get prosecuted it’s better to stop it be trying to rigure out the true source
Yeah true, it's a fact being stated cause even if they are caught they could as well destroy the source and deny the act, I wish a secret camera capture can be put in place aside tracking of IP And how would you do a secret camera capture ? I mean everyone want that, but that is even more difficult than tracking a IP. You have nowadays a lot of tools to get a IP from someone you want. Lol what the hell is a 'secret camera capture'? This is the whole point that BitFence is trying to do, because IP address alone isn't evidence, they will be fingerprinting each detected hacker with their own signature. Lol... Secret camera capture isn't cool. So bitfence miners will be hacking the hacker's camera. Which can also turn out bad for bitfence and bring about legal actions against bitfence. |
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It's tomorrow people! Who else is feeling very excited about tomorrow, June 1st...listing is June 3rd  I think I am the first on that list. It's been a long wait and it has sure been worth it. In 3 days time all sales as regards this project will be done with. 14 Hours, and then we will have the pre-listing sale. I just can't wait for it. I really hope that they will hit the hardcap so that they can go on with full speed with their project. It will be interesting how much more 4New can raise. They already got a great amount but with every dollar more they can expand their plant portfolio even faster. Im keeping a close eye on this as well, going to be in the Telegram group tomorrow at 9am when it launches! well, see you tomorrow in the telegram channel :-) I am so glad that it finally starts tomorrow and is over after Sunday. There will be so many investors. Normally I take ICOs rather cool, but for tomorrow I'm really excited :-) The Telegram channel is going to explode tommorow  . I will be there also, will watch out for any information about the sales. Do we already know anything about the exchange plans i mean they told us that the listing is on June 3rd but they could also tell us where. I just hope the sale goes on as planned and nothing brings about any extension.. This should be the last phase also they have not said anything about the exchange listing. |
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I read on CryptOcean website that they'll be listed on exchanges on the 10th of December this year which will be when the ecosystem is fully-functioning. I don't know how I feel about waiting this long for listing.
Exchange listing will be on 10th December? And whats the last date for ICO /main sale? Recently I am observing many projects doing such things. I mean delay in listing, until product is ready. Yeah and also you should know that they are working with a timetable, they will want to ensure success so all conditions needs to be met before listing The market is down anyways so it is maybe a bad idea to list it fast. There would just some sell orders who want coins for low prices. It is better to not hurry. By December the market should really be on a spike like 2017 definitely the best time to get listed for any project. It is still a long time to come tho. |
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Awesome news guys. Vanig vp just announced that the mvp is out.. You can find it on their site https://vanig.io/ together with the user guide.. It is recommended you read.. Off to check it out. |
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In which countries do you cooperate with banks issuers of your Cryptocards??
We are working closely with Germany, Estonia and Russia. This means that we are preparing the issue of cards for Russia, and German and Estonian cards will be available around the world with logical restrictions (Iran, China, Singapore and other countries where crypto-currencies are not regulated or banned). In addition, we are aimed at expanding the scope of our cards and after the launch of European and Russian history, we will switch to other promising markets - Japan, Korea, Asia in general. Asian market is one of the most powerful markets in the crypto space. I would have been surprised if i didn't see them in your list. How long before you guys move to the Asia market. I like the Asia target too, very tech drive continent, I've read about Singapore big interest in anything crypto so I'm glad Singapore was included, how about Dubai, it's a pretty nice country to be in too Hello, It's planned that the project will be available in all countries. If you mean something specific, please specify. Sounds nice.. At least i know i will get to use cryptocean card in my country someday. I hope that day comes soon. Really need to get this stress of transferring tokens and fiat here and there to get cash. |
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In order to be eligible to receive the token rewards, how many tokens do we need to own? Or would any amount be enough to be eligible for token rewards?
There is a tier approach to this. In the whitepaper three were mentioned If you hold SEEDs bettween 1 to 9999. You are a normal member. If you hold something between 10000–99999 SEED tokens allows you to have priority access to icos. If you hold more than 100000 SEEDs you can even reserve tokens in an ico. It's a good incentive to purchase and HODL SEED tokens, 100,000 SEED tokens is quite pricey for the premium membership, I just checked the converter and its value is 18.55 in ETH, and thats based on ETH's current value of $539 on CMC. ibininja, thanks for detail information. cryptossi, that you mean to say if I got premium membership on SEED platform as per above holding quantity so that tokens value will be worth of 18+ EatH? He means you'd need to buy 18.5 ETH worth of tokens to have 100k which is the top level. 18.5 ETH is huge value for me. But sometimes you need to invest more to get good services. Unfortunately I need to settle for normal member. Yea. Everyone can't be on the top level thus they have to make the requirement high. I will just pick a level that I k own is cool with me and maybe look forward to becoming a top leveler some day. I think u will settle between 10k and 99k...top member is out of my reach for now. But i would have loved to be a top member. We can actually buy the SEED token in installment and gradually walk our way to the top because I believe with time the token price will definitely increase gradually and there by making the required amount for top level even higher Yeah that's true. It will definitely rise and when it does the investors will be benefit a lot. I am glad to be part of this great change Subscribe to bounty programs, airdrops to get more SEED and buy some. Is there is any referrals program where we can earn some SEED tokens if someone Investe in SEED using my reference? Its going to be difficult to get 100000 seed tokens from Airdrop and bounties, i don't think it is even possible. You just have to spend that money to enjoy benefits. |
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It's good to see Vanig team welcome a prominent individual to the team hopefully he'll help take Vanig project to greater heights. Welcome William we're glad to have you on board. So the name is finally out, the long awaited information, that's cool to have an expert as part of the vanig team, not just an expert but one in the ecommerce industry that has worked with notable brands, that's awesome, the VP was right after all when he said that Philip was a force in the industry, love the direction that this project is heading and hope to see more good news It's really good to hear that such experienced person joined Vanig project. His experience with Wal-Mart and other companies will definitely help Vanig. And vanig will really need the experience from someone like that to move the vanig project to a point over Walmart. I hope he will work with the team and take vanig to the top. |
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What I can see on Bitfence homepage? "STINGMINER LAUNCH IN: 32 days". They raised their require funds (2000 ETH Goals)? Anyone have any information about it? How much amount they raised yet?
What happened their 2000 ETH goals in stage -1? I thought they have stage 2 also. But don't know why they changed suddenly here? Stingminer launching plan was in Q3 or Q4? Nothing wrong with them bringing it forward! The crowdsale was meant to end in July though, so not sure what's happened there Stingminer launch is after 32 days, mean 1st week of July. So may be they will launch stingminer and simultaneously keep the crowd sale going? After seeing the successful launch of products, may be more and more people will join token sale. I guess so too, it's a marketing strategy, a working product means project plan is solid, I agree with the wisdom behind the move I agree. It's nice strategy. I can see token sale is not going fast. And I was expecting some different approach from BitFence team. It's good they decided to launch product during ICO Yeah it will give the ico a good boost because if they have a working product they are already making a lot of profit. It will certainly help within 30 days when they release the stingminer - this will get alot more people interested when it's released, I'm sure many people will be interested to download it and see how it works Huh guys. This is one is really great. They will launch the stingminer just like they told us in the roadmap. So they completed the sales now do they ? I am not sure about the completion if sales and i think it was paused for kyc implementation from the bitfence team at least we now have to worry about stingminer release in 30 days. yes, i have read a statement that the sale is paused for implementation of KYC. this is the second project that i know, where a KYC is implemented in the middle of sale. Interestingly enough, this happened at exactly the same time as the ETH course went far down but maybe that's just coincidence But that dev has confirmed it sale is paused for KYC implementation? I mean I never seen anyone news/updates from Bitfence admin about KYC implementation. Or might be I missed that. If you look at their homepage https://bitfence.io/ then you see the announcement of bitfence directly below the countdown to the stingminer launch Sale continues when kyc is implemented and tested KYC is must for ICO. It will secure your account/wallet. I guess everyone have to wait until their next announcement and should not spread wrong messages about sale. I just hope they will be able to implement kyc faster and come back to continue their ico. Taking long may take the excitement out of the ico. |
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Most exchanges have rules against announcing listings before they are done deals and most don’t allow announcements while ICOs are actively running which makes sense if you think about it to keep things in check
Announcing exchange listing during ico is a bad move..it shouldn't even come to mind till during the last days of the running ico.. Exchange is usually a very big distraction during an ico... If the exchange isn't a favourable one it can turn down investors in investing in the token... Yeah, the big ones get you to sign a NDA specifically so they're not announced. I personally don't care about when an exchange is announced, if i invest in a project it's because I believe in the core of the project and their goals, not because they're going to be listed on X exchanges. Not only this, but I'm not fussed about which exchanges for now as the project is still developing. I'm more interested in the actual work they are producing and the progress - I'm in 4NEW for the long game rather than selling for a quick buck on an exchange They are burning unsold token which may likely bring the total 300m to a very reduced amount plus the different plants already set and more to come, there is no way value of FRNC won't improve over time You're right about the value increasing and a part of me believes that even if they don't end up burning the tokens which i doubt, the need for the token will be so much that it will likely be a scare resource in the future, sounds funny but there's a high probability of that happening, is realistic, is just a matter of time and the whole process will fall in place I saw some estimates on the 4NEW price channel that it could be about 100m tokens that end up getting burned. That means technically, each KWATT would be worth 33% more, and would embody 33% more electric. Where did you see this information, whats the source - i'll be interested to read that, wasn't aware of a burn! Especially 100m tokens :O Impressive and good news for holders! Well I learnt there's going to be burning of unsold tokens, not sure about the amount of tokens tho. If @darkoth89 is correct an increase of 33% will be really cool . I thought they are generating tokens which is required in sale. If they are thinking about burn unsold tokens means they have more supply? I saw people few weeks back saying 4new tokens will be generated as they are purchased. Now i am hearing about token burn.. A little bit confusing. |
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When can we receive our coins from the site. I have currently 500 coins, but i don't know when we can withdraw it to our own wallet. Maybe after the ICO ?
Hello! Yes, immediately after the end of the ICO, the tokens will be sent to your wallet. So this means it isn't necessary to go through a KYC process in order to be able to withdraw the tokens from your site, right? Sounds like it but would be good for the team to confirm just to be on the safe side as a lot of ICOs have confusion when it comes to kyc would be good to clarify fully what the plan is regarding that and when it comes to withdrawal I hope they do confirm KYC will be needed to an extent at least, say investors purchasing high amount of tokens I think KYCs are important and it has to be done some time before the tokens are unlocked. I think the KYC even if it is to take place after the ICO the tokens would be locked till then. However I am not sure how they will handle failed KYCs that got the tokens. Kyc is very important and i would have advised them to have implemented it before they started the sales but as per what you guys are saying it has not been implemented so we might see a pause in sales very soon for kyc implementation. |
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I dont know whether this has already been shared here. Check this option about getting double rewards.. https://www.superbloom.com/2xrewardsPeople need to invest as low as 1 ETH to get the benefits. That is a really nice shout, I wasn't aware of this and it's good to see a low amount of 1 ETH at current market prices which is only around $550. Very tempted to invest some right now I also just found this news in their telegram channel and about to post it. Its already here now. Like you say, its wonderful opportunity to grab more SEED tokens. Gem for our portfolio. It’s a big bonus for people and given the low fiat value on ethereum at the moment I thin it makes a pretty solid timing as well as people look to possibly shift around their ethereum holdings during this period more bang for the relatively low buck I think its a pretty good investment 1 ETH is around $540 at the moment so its a good investment when ETH is low, Im really liking this project they have some great incentives. It looks good with ETH price still low and below $1000. However, it might be a difficult thing for people to part with when ETH starts maintaining the 4 figure value later on. But if the value returns are good, then why not? Investors going to unvest 1 or more eth this week are really going to enjoy this. 2 times your tokens if you purchase with 1 or more eth is a good deal. That is like a 100% bonus. To think that recently we were saying getting 100 000 seed tokens was expensive now we can get them with half the price. |
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again missed a tweet. maybe I should get an own Twitter profile only for the ICOs. The more followers I have, the less tweets I see lately. it is really strange. I wonder why that is. Anyway, thanks for sharing the tweet here I've been thinking the same, I miss all the important notifications from the ICO's I have invested in because I follow back so many people on Twitter. I think its a good idea to have a different Twitter account just so I don't miss out on any tweets from Vanig and other project I follow. Or maybe someone from the Vanig team can come here to the forum and post it every time there is important news. This way someone who follows this thread won't miss out on anything. They already do that on Telegram they post important news very fast there that is why we should be following them on social media they have a bigger public there. Yeah Im active on Telegram so I see most of their highlights on there, Vanig do a great job at updating their socials its just hard sometimes personally to keep up to date on new developments. It is great to see the VP himself show up and answer the hard questions. I think their major milestone now is the MVP; I know it is in the works with early members and partners. I hope they publish something that details on their progress. Lol. Hard question? Is the any at all? I don't believe so as far it is directed to the vp and it is about his project it isn't hard maybe we can say more technical or project oriented questions. |
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People seem to forget that hackers aren’t exactly easy to catch just because an ip is a source of an attack doesn’t mean that’s the attacker it could just be an insecure network being used to relay an attackers actions that’s why most smalltime hacks don’t get prosecuted it’s better to stop it be trying to rigure out the true source
I think the proactive approach with this one is what is most interesting. Since the honey pot would actively attract and analyze hacking attempts almost instantly and distribute to the rest of the network you are basically protecting before the attack happens. Also a more experienced hacker will know what a honeypot is and how it works. And can in turn use it against the miners. How can bitfence prevent this ? |
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Most exchanges have rules against announcing listings before they are done deals and most don’t allow announcements while ICOs are actively running which makes sense if you think about it to keep things in check
Announcing exchange listing during ico is a bad move..it shouldn't even come to mind till during the last days of the running ico.. Exchange is usually a very big distraction during an ico... If the exchange isn't a favourable one it can turn down investors in investing in the token... Yeah, the big ones get you to sign a NDA specifically so they're not announced. I personally don't care about when an exchange is announced, if i invest in a project it's because I believe in the core of the project and their goals, not because they're going to be listed on X exchanges. Not only this, but I'm not fussed about which exchanges for now as the project is still developing. I'm more interested in the actual work they are producing and the progress - I'm in 4NEW for the long game rather than selling for a quick buck on an exchange But I think exchanges still should matter to provide easy utilization, access and circulation of token. I understand that the tokens are mostly used with the platform either for mining or the national grid. But I think exchanges should be in the picture. Surely it should be, this is a project with a token like all other project and investors bought it to make some good profit when listed but for now it should not be an issue. We still have completion of kyc, continuing ico etc. To worry about. Exchange will just shift the focus from the most important thing. |
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This will be an awesome but normal feature on the vanig platform but how will vanig search feature differ from other platforms? |
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In which countries do you cooperate with banks issuers of your Cryptocards??
We are working closely with Germany, Estonia and Russia. This means that we are preparing the issue of cards for Russia, and German and Estonian cards will be available around the world with logical restrictions (Iran, China, Singapore and other countries where crypto-currencies are not regulated or banned). In addition, we are aimed at expanding the scope of our cards and after the launch of European and Russian history, we will switch to other promising markets - Japan, Korea, Asia in general. Asian market is one of the most powerful markets in the crypto space. I would have been surprised if i didn't see them in your list. How long before you guys move to the Asia market. |
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Did somebody noticed how the ICO is progressing? It is moving steadily and crossed 1 mil today. Looks like 5 mil is easy target during the remaining pre-sale period for cryptocean
In what look like a red period in the crypto space, crypto ocean still make sales shows the amount of faith they have got in their investors it was mentioned in a previous post that they've hit the over $1mill mark now, and it appears to be progressing steadily. Hoping that the $3m cap won't be that long away. This news will inspire confidence in investors, moving towards $3m with this progress is encouraging, they've got a good concept at hand and plastic card is a new level in the space It is truly remarkable that the ico is moving steady. I forsee them hitting the softcap sooner than later. Investors have got their eyes on this project and i would love an idea like theirs to be turned into a reality. |
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