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1781  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Where bill clinton 42 president of the usa raped children below 12 years old on: August 07, 2018, 06:22:24 PM
Not just Bill Clinton.

Richard Branson, Ehud Barak (former Israeli prime minister), Kevin Spacey, Alan Dershowitz (Harvard law professor and also Epstein's lawyer), Chris Tucker, Hillary Clinton...

and Trump. Trump has been to that island, and was (maybe still is) very good friends with Epstein (Epstein is and always has been New York based).


Problem is that a few pictures of Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton looking seedy is not evidence of what happened. Does anyone believe that Hillary Clinton is a pedophile rapist? It's not impossible, but being on the plane (for which there is hard evidence) is not the same thing as being guilty of child rape. The association is very bad, but not the same thing as evidence. All that exists is testimonies, which is not the most reliable way of proving wrongdoing.


(I was probably the first person on this forum to bring this up, btw)
1782  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-08-05] The truth about Starbucks bitcoin payments on: August 07, 2018, 06:02:32 PM
I will only get excited when merchants start to physically accept Bitcoin and not through a third party, which might take a while considering that the volatility won't be going anywhere in the coming years.

I think it'll be quite a while. Merchants aren't in the business of currency speculation and they have no reason to expose themselves to that sort of volatility risk. So they'll lag pretty far behind user adoption IMO.

Good businesses often do think about currency speculation, especially in regions with unstable currencies (or those who trade with others in regions with unstable currencies). Whether they think more in terms of risk is only semantic, avoiding risk is speculation by another name. Some would call this actual capitalism, as every business has to account for changes in the market in every material they use to operate, whereas today's businesses are more often very insulated from market conditions as a result of centralised price-setting on the commodities markets, or worse still by government subsidies.
1783  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Discussion Thread on: August 06, 2018, 04:40:10 PM
Do you believe it would be a good idea not to have penalties in Lightning?

eltoo would remove the penalty for broadcasting old channel states, so it's not impossible (but this depends on a new opcode being soft forked into bitcoin script)
1784  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-08-02] Google Trends Shows Interest In Bitcoin on: August 05, 2018, 07:28:16 PM
Google trends boost comes after the price rise, not before.

How do we know for sure?
It's impossible to know for sure, but it does make sense. Price increase -> mainstream media -> average joe -> action.

As ever, what's in it for Google to give the public free information services?
Google could potentially get paid by x entity to artificially inflate or deflate publicly accessible (free) information. It totally wouldn't surprise me and it may even be happening already. They can make it seem like no one is interested in crypto right now, just to accumulate as many coin as possible, to later inflate Google Trends and initiate a bull run to dump their bags on dumb money.

There is however a less sensational alternative: Google Trends is a loss leader, to create goodwill and trust in the Google brand. Which would be interesting in it's own right; why would Google need to make such efforts to have people trust them? (nothing about helping to correct a deficit in how trustworthy google are, of course Grin)

Still, I'd be very surprised if there'd never been corruption of Google Trends data for some kind of gain, just as could be expected from buying top positions in Google search results (I bet Google could make a real profit on that kind of shenanigans).
1785  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-08-02] Google Trends Shows Interest In Bitcoin on: August 05, 2018, 06:35:54 PM
Google trends boost comes after the price rise, not before.

How do we know for sure?

I wouldn't trust Google Trends to not be distorted in various ways. The graphs and figures we get from Google Trends are not verified, we simply trust that Google are providing the correct numbers.

As ever, what's in it for Google to give the public free information services?
1786  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-08-05] Bitcoin Merchants See Payments Decline in 2018, Despite Record Low on: August 05, 2018, 06:30:18 PM
I posted an earlier comment in a thread today that shows at least one merchant willing to try an open source alternative - and it seems to be working out just great (BTCPayServer).

It's possible that BTCPay will be the first to implement Lightning payments too (don't think any other payments solution is doing it yet). Shouldn't take them long to do it, the developers have also done some work for lightning implementations. I hope so, meritocracy FTW (i.e. only those who are more hands-on with running their webshop will benefit).
1787  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-08-01] At What Level Do Institutional Buyers Join The Bitcoin Rally? on: August 03, 2018, 01:36:56 PM
If anyone really believes that institutional investors are waiting for regulatory approval, then you're all forgetting how corrupt Wall Street and the financial markets of the world are.

Business leaders often read Sun Tzu's Art of War, and an important maxim from that text is that "war is deception". If you really expect those involved in financial trading to publicly tell you important market information, you failed to understand how driven the big succeeders are. They will omit the truth and tell lies to the public constantly provided they can get away with it. Why on earth would they do anything else? They want to make money, not give others their most actionable information at their own expense.

In the history of market scandals (and the list is long), does anyone actually believe the media spin that "the bad guys tried, and failed, to cheat the system"? Think about the potential amount of fraud and deception that is simply never detected in a system that essentially relies on trust in the accounting firms (who have demonstrated that they are willing to collaborate with fraud and deceptive practices on the occasions when it's been publicly uncovered).

Given all this, it seems far more likely that the "institutional money is afraid of cryptocurrency trading" is simply a way of trying to keep the risk-averse public majority out of the crpytocurrency markets until they've used their most effective illegitimate channels to corner as much of the market as possible. Doesn't that sound more like Wall Street to you than "they're afraid of breaking the rules"? Come on now.
1788  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-31] Vitalik Buterin Thinks There Is Too Much Fuss About Bitcoin ETFs on: August 02, 2018, 03:27:23 PM
These guys will surely come in and buy up all the coins in circulation and then nobody would be able to use bitcoins as a currency.  Tongue

They won't and they can't.

I'd say "they could and would".

Let's put it like this: the most corrupt business on the planet, synonymous with risk taking, won't do something corrupt to take a risk on a new, innovative and unprecedentedly profitable asset class? Don't believe it. Even without evidence, I think it's safe to say that large financial firms are finding a way to buy & trade cryptocurrency, all other previous evidence suggests they could and would.


As for Vitalik: major lol. He's basically saying "I'm a fraud". Because no ICO's == no Ethereum use-case, no Ethereum use-case == no Etheruem purpose, no Ethereum purpose == why are we listening to this guy?
1789  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Bech32 new address format and Armory on: July 31, 2018, 02:23:10 PM
Thanks guys, I'm probably not the only one who'd like this to happen Smiley
1790  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-25] India’s Supreme Court Postpones Verdict on Cryptocurrency Ban Again on: July 31, 2018, 01:06:41 PM
There are some money laundering schemes that use offshore shell companies, but there are high ranking bank executives that provide money laundering as a service for criminals. Search for HSBC money laundering in Google and look at how corrupted they are.

Also, what the government wants is to control its constituents, not to give them freedom. Bitcoin gives freedom, and the government does not like that.

But remember that both points you make here are related to each other: governments and their politicians are used to the off-shore money system when they want to do some kind of scandalous dealings, but that puts them in the pockets of the bankers who arrange it for them. Bitcoin doesn't have that middleman problem in the same way, once you have some BTC, politicians can use techniques to do their questionable deals in far more privacy than they can with bankers intermediating. And then they owe the bankers nothing.

That's the beauty of peer-to-peer tech, everyone has genuine equal opportunity. Self interest can drive anyone towards cryptocurrency, as everyone has some reason to want it, even if the reasons aren't the same for everyone.
1791  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Discussion Thread on: July 31, 2018, 12:44:55 PM
As I'm not a developer, in layman's terms, how complicated a task is it to mash all the different Lightning ideas together and keep it all compatible, over multiple dev teams with their own implementations?  

It certainly adds extra work to the development. Seeing as network consensus is a multi-lateral model for lightning (only individual payment paths need a sequence of consensus, the failure of which isn't critical to the overall network), there is no reference implementation like with bitcoin itself, and so lightning development resembles any other protocol development far more than bitcoin does. This makes sense overall; clightning appears to be focusing on the embedded and webstore/server markets (it uses the C language, and so it can be compiled for just about any platform), whereas lnd is targetting mobile, server and desktop (lnd is using rust, which I would assume is unlikely to work well for super simple embedded Point of Sale devices for instance), or Eclair which is mobile only.

This makes sense as a development model in lightning's case, however messy the interoperability issues are. The nuance is that the list of new ideas you mention are originating from the different teams, and they do not necessitate universal implementation. If lnd doesn't want to implement eltoo, there is no problem at the protocol level, they can continue to use the punishment protocol instead. Vice versa if ACINQ (the Eclair team) decides against implementing channel factories, Eclair can still interface with the lightning network at the level of the 1.0 protocol. So once the wrinkles in 1.0 interoperability are ironed out, it will function as a stable base layer in it's own right. Swapping out components of the protocol for enhanced substitutes, or adding additional network layers (e.g. channel factories) shouldn't be too disruptive with a stable base protocol operating (it's very close already).


I think we all know that this person did not pull enough liquidity from the system to make it technically impossible to route payments that were not marginally large. It's just that there wasn't sufficient liquidity to overcome the shortcomings of imperfect routing. I'm skeptical that full client side routing may end up not being practical. Perhaps a hybrid system where a satisfactory level of privacy is achieved through onion routing while other hops in the routing are a collaborative effort? Not sure, just thinking out loud.

It was a little overhyped, the supposed attack withdrew much less than half the network liquidity. I think channel factories and/or cyclic node rebalancing techniques will cater for the liquidity of good actors on the network, and (yet another) proposed system for data authentication could be the building blocks to solve the bad actors problem (this would introduce rewards for serving reliable data of any type over lightning, which can be used to give nodes a routing score). There was a suggestion by the author that this could be used to simplify or remove the need for watchtowers altogether, which would be nice (I believe eltoo goes some way in that direction already)
1792  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory 0.96.4 release on: July 30, 2018, 10:47:39 PM
i don't see a turquoise tx in main GUI.  

Implies problems. RBF tx's are always colored that way in the Transaction window.

RBF should be default checkbox-ed on the Send Transaction form. In your case maybe not?

Are you using 96.4, or something earlier? (there were bugs in RBF before 96.4)
1793  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Bech32 new address format and Armory on: July 30, 2018, 01:04:42 PM
the concern is the conflict it will create when dev is ready to be merged back into testing.

Indeed, I guess it's a case of whether it's worth it considering the timescales (0.96.5 maybe in a few weeks/months, 0.97 maybe winter/spring 2019??)
1794  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Discussion Thread on: July 30, 2018, 12:57:21 PM
Just read this Blockstream blog, and I am excited to see growing research on scaling solution and how things would really different (read awesome) down the line.

eltoo: A Simplified Update Mechanism for Lightning and Off-Chain Contracts

https://blockstream.com/2018/04/30/eltoo-next-lightning.html

Yeah, biggest thing to happen in Lightning development since channel factories.


This demonstrates:

1. Lightning isn't perfect as per the 2015 original specification
2. It can be improved, and the developers know what the weaknesses are and are thinking carefully how to redesign optimally

It will take time, but the end product should be easier to use than regular Bitcoin clients. And this will be huge for Bitcoin's competitiveness as a currency, it could be like using gold with a debit card, where the actual bullion is under the complete control of the individual.
1795  Other / Serious discussion / Re: [SMART] Europe introduces four new Galileo satellites on: July 30, 2018, 11:48:37 AM
high definition cctv in space to watch all the time? interesting...

Right, but how much coverage can really be achieved with 26 satellites worldwide, even if you consider that EU/USA/Russia could pool their resources with such cameras. Even then, one word: clouds


I hope the threat of this sort of totalitarian control might get some of the more state-system apologists to finally wake up: what's the big plan, just pray like crazy that no electorate ever votes in a crazy dictator? Good luck with that, all government is always somewhere on the tyrannical scale. Blind faith that the next compromise "won't be too bad" is what slowly grinds a society into the situation where crazy dictators can take advantage of a desperate situation. If you think history can't possibly repeat this way, you deserve everything that happens to you
1796  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Bech32 new address format and Armory on: July 30, 2018, 11:39:30 AM
Thanks for entertaining the idea. But I can see from you're previous updates about 0.97 features that it will be an important Armory release because of your new business agreement, this question was more idle curiosity on a Sunday than anything else! Smiley Please don't waste your time if it's too awkward to implement.
1797  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Bech32 new address format and Armory on: July 29, 2018, 09:17:37 PM
Alas, bech32 would be too much work for 0.96.5.

Not even allowing sending? (I realise bech32 addresses in wallets is a significant change whether it's the mirror type or a new design) Just error checking without correction would be a useful win in summer/fall 2018 for sending to bech32 in different wallet software (clightning, electrum, core etc all support bech32).
1798  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Bech32 new address format and Armory on: July 29, 2018, 07:21:13 PM
Most likely I'll add support for this in mirror wallets before the new wallets are out.

Updated thinking on this?

It's getting to the stage now where I'm wanting to use bech32, but Armory 96.4 rejects sending to bech32 addresses. Are we going to wait till 0.97 for the ability to send to bech32 addresses, or could it make it into 96.5? (assuming 96.5 is still planned)
1799  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-25] India’s Supreme Court Postpones Verdict on Cryptocurrency Ban Again on: July 29, 2018, 07:03:54 PM
They first made an Ass of themselves by prematurely banning all Crypto currencies, then they admit that they did that and they allow it and now they postpone the court ruling on this. This is a sign of a government that has no clue what they are doing. I think people should give them some time to do their research and to finally make up their mind.

The Russian government went through the same nonsense, but they were making different rules for different divisions in their government.

The problem subcontinent suffers from is corruption. To hide their corruption Bitcoin and other cryptos are a perfect tool for them, But the main issue here is that these countries are suffering from low tax revenues which is devaluing their currencies. If they approve cryptos/Bitcoin that means the majority of IT sector will start using it for payments which in return will mean even less tax revenue for the governments, which may lead to hyperinflation and collapse of these currencies.

These are very important reasons why government announcements about cryptocurrencies are so vague, and why any policy is very weak or non-existent.

Governments can't introduce very harsh measures only to make complete 180 degree turns in the future. It makes them look weak and hypocritical, and that weakens their perceived authority. The cryptocurrency issue makes it very difficult for policymakers, many people have been saying this for a long long time. It's a phenomenon that's impossible to prevent, and it both appeals to the corrupt self-serving nature of politicians and yet simultaneously undermines the entire model of parliamentary democracy. The writing is on the wall.
1800  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: How do you see bitcoin in 10 years’ time? on: July 29, 2018, 06:07:30 PM
All or nothing, I imagine.

Not sure who said this, but "Bitcoin either will be massively successful or dying in future"

That's what Satoshi said back in 2008, can't remember the exact context




I expect someone will publicly burst the "this BTC is mine, and I don't care who you think are, you can't have any" bubble before another 10 years is over. That will trigger a whole new era in human history, and there's no  reason to think that it won't happen.

Waves of copycat behavior will occur, and the current model of handling that kind of non-compliance won't be able to cope. There are no doubt plenty of people already not cooperating with tax agencies in respect of BTC, but someone will eventually (and proabably someone in the financial industry) will one day just say no publicly.

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