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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bounty really pay? on: May 24, 2023, 02:35:06 AM
still have projects that pay and give hunters a small amount of money. But most bounty projects usually pay unsold coins very little, which is done after paying the hunters once the coins are worth it. However, if you know how to select some good bounty projects, they can be better than airdrops because sometimes they pay coins, and after listing their prices, their prices can be x more than the initial coin distribution for the bounty.
it's all highly depends on the fact that someone needs to know selecting a project which has potential, it's no different than investing, with bounty, if the project has good potential, by holding alone it could increase the bounty rewards.
The quality of bounty projects now is different from previous bounty projects, I have reviewed from the bounty community that they get high income from bounties and even holding them will get 2x higher than selling when distributing tokens, but now there are many scam bounty projects and we have to frequently review there may be projects bounties that are potential high earnings that will be posted in the future.
by holding the prize from the bounty it might be possible to increase 2x, but it is also possible to decrease until it is worthless. projects that look good sometimes fall short of expectations. I personally, if I get a coin from a signature and it can be sold, I choose to sell it and buy a coin that can be used for long-term investment, so it's like being able to save bitcoin or ethereum. but sadly there are not many decent bounty prizes at the moment, but keep the spirit to get lucky in the world of bounty hunters
182  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Importance of entrepreneur in school curriculum on: May 23, 2023, 02:42:21 PM
Entrepreneurship education teaches individuals to think outside the box and nurture conventional talents and skills. Entrepreneurship needs to be created under an institutional framework so that many students will not be unemployed. NGO foundations can finance the creation of small entrepreneurs. All assistance in its implementation should be provided by those acting as strategic leaders from that position. There is no alternative to creating trained entrepreneurs in the country. Despite the various limitations, the government should emphasize improving the quality of education in various ways and creating work friendly educational environment.
In this era, entrepreneurship education is very important, because not everyone will become an employee, and of course the mindset must be changed because so far people have attended high school with the aim of getting a decent job, they have little thought of entrepreneurship. therefore the curriculum should provide more learning hours about entrepreneurship, so that it can change the mindset of students. On the other hand, how to target business opportunities must also be taught, because there are so many in the technological era, like today, that there are promising business opportunities, don't just think conventionally.
183  Economy / Economics / Re: Will inflation in the world grow by 2023? on: May 23, 2023, 02:32:33 PM
Inflation can occur by many factors and we cannot be sure that this year there will be inflation, but from the current economic situation indeed inflation has almost occurred because many people have felt depressed by the increase in prices of goods, but this cannot be sure that inflation can just happen, although economists have collected a lot of data about the occurrence of inflation but we must all be able to prepare ourselves so that later it will be easy to live everything  existing problems.
and it seems that our people have understood the impending inflation, they seem to have become friends with an increasingly difficult economic situation because all prices have increased significantly, especially for employees who have not experienced a salary increase, of course they will rack their brains to make ends meet. therefore we cannot depend on one source of income, we must be able to find additional income. once the price has gone up, it will be difficult to go down, it seems that everyone already understands that
184  Economy / Economics / Re: Quit borrowing on: May 23, 2023, 02:23:24 PM
Those who take business loans make good use of it and the business thrives, in which case the loan does not matter to them. on the contrary it is very beneficial for them. and no big businessmen can run their business with their own finance they have to resort to loans and they are able to make good use of it and repay those loans on time.  So it will not be possible to Quit all type of loans.
A businessman will estimate the possible profits that can be achieved every year if they have high capital to build a potential business, so they decide to use a loan to increase business capital and all risks from the loan have been considered if the prediction of business development is not as expected, they must save a reserve fund to pay off the loan time. So I agree that if borrowed funds are used to open up business opportunities, don't use borrowed funds for gambling and drugs.
There is no guarantee that there will always be profit in business, but profit is possible depending on some unique planning and marketing strategies of the business. so here a businessmen can earn huge amount of profit from business by using unique ideas and strategies. so in that case investing in business with loan is not a problem. but if one gambles with loans or invests in high risk areas like crypto then he will make a big mistake and he can face big danger. So if you plan to do anything with the loan, you should think about it a hundred times
a businessman will certainly be friendly with risks, so they must have careful calculations to get the planned targets. indeed not all the efforts made will bear fruit, but at least with good calculations it will minimize the risks faced. especially to borrow money as capital, of course, you have to be able to rotate money properly, so that there are no obstacles in its implementation, because of course the money you have will be rotated in a relay manner, to fulfill business implementation. as long as it can be done, most likely the results will be as expected
185  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you still advised more buy and store? on: May 21, 2023, 07:17:06 AM
Do what your analysis says. It is critical time in the Bitcoin market so financial advise is at your own discretion. I will advise you study the market closely and draw your observation based on your own analysis. The market is very cruel at this point. If one say buy and the market starts dropping it might stair fear and doubt, But with your own analysis it will be much better to state the obvious on when to buy and when to sell and how long to hold.
I agree with this, even though we get input from other people about what to do, we still have to go back to doing the analysis and not swallow what other people say. The reason is usually if we do it without doing a re-analysis of regret there must be, yes that's what I feel and regret having listened to other people. When we do it ourselves, at least if it's wrong but it comes from ourselves not other people. And with that we can know what mistakes we have made and we can learn from there and can improve our analysis again.
other people's suggestions are only as a reference and of course we determine the path we will take. many people are panicked by the issues that are circulating and in the end they regret that they are not confident about the analysis. therefore even though the market is down we have to look for areas to buy, it's the same as me until now I think if the price is still below $ 30k, then I will look for opportunities to invest, and placing orders in the support area will be my framework
186  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A new era of trading? on: May 21, 2023, 07:06:35 AM
It doesn’t matter at all, if the US government interferes in the cryptos. If they make strict rules and regulations, it won’t affect a lot to be honest. Due to the decentralised nature of the cryptocurrencies, no governing body or person other than the investor can know how many digital assets or cryptos the trader is holding. So yes if they ban or put restrictions on exchanges in US, then the traders will completely shift to P2P trading. Yes we have seen these types of limitation in many places, so yes you can claim that this is a new era for all the traders.
Saying that it doesn't matter at all seem a bit of a stretch, US is still a big market and it's already proven that they have an effect on the market, remember when there was stimulus checks? It did have some effects on the market. Fanboys really think that being decentralized means that the world economy and market isn't going to affect the prices, people still buy goods and services with cash even if they use cryptocurrency most of the time.
the world economy does not have a significant impact on cryptocurrencies, such as the global economic crisis due to the Russian war, it does not seem to have an effect on crypto, although its influence is tentative. therefore what is issued by the US government does not make our negative view of cryptocurrency, on the contrary if it has influence and prices fall then it can be used as an opportunity to own crypto
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Make profit in Crypto Trading as a newbie. Dream or reality ? on: May 20, 2023, 03:50:00 AM
as a beginner, you should prioritize long-term trading or investing, this does not mean that you cannot trade short-term, but use less capital to learn short-term trading, because this will be more risky considering there will be many things that must be mastered, so it requires time to process. that way even though they experience losses, the majority capital is still for long-term investments so that it is safe for the entire capital owned. the advice here is don't want to get money in the crypto world immediately, because this will be a boomerang for us
188  Economy / Economics / Re: Is some certain lifestyle a waste of money and time ? on: May 20, 2023, 03:37:19 AM
It depends on your capability people are keep having a good time spending their money because they have extra and they keep looking at it as extra money that they can spend a lot of money and unlike other people. see their money as a precious thing so they could have a chance to accumulate as possible for their investment and savings.

But again not all the time it's all about earning, savings and playing safe always treat yourself to get satisfied with your goals achieved.
different people's level of happiness. by having a lot of money, maybe they will be facilitated to be able to pamper themselves by fulfilling all their desires, something like that is not wrong, because the way they value themselves after working hard to achieve it, and maybe the amount is not much compared to what it produces. it is wrong if our style is not in accordance with income, so that behind it it becomes a sharp boomerang that will hurt us ourselves. but not a few people who are too rich actually have a simple lifestyle, it all depends on the personality of each person
189  Economy / Economics / Re: Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin? on: May 20, 2023, 03:26:37 AM
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In conditions like this i think it comes back to his own perspective whether he really wants it or not.
My point is that when we borrow money it doesn't mean that it's also the wrong thing to do because everything has its own conditions and strategies in investing. for example we know that Saylor is someone who is very rich compared to us ordinary people but he borrows money with the aim of investing. He was aware of his condition and doing so was not a stupid move but had his own strategy to carry out.
But for me, even though it's not my fault, it's better to avoid it because I'm aware of my own capacity because that doesn't mean I can't afford to get a refund, but I think it's actually making it difficult for me so I won't be in any kind of loan for investment as for for other people, especially those who are stable in financial condition, even more, I will not suggest or forbid because it is their right, regardless of right or wrong, they know the consequences that will get.
Credit is always a risk if we are talking about investing with this credit money. I have not seen a single example with evidence here, when someone took a loan, bought bitcoin with this money and was able to make money on it.

The difficulty lies in the fact that it is too difficult to determine the price movement, or you can get into a long period of flat movement, or even worse, a fall. I see no reason to take risks because I value my investment and the most important thing for me is not to lose it. It is possible that Seylor has a much greater financial capacity and can calculate the risks, but I do not see myself using a loan for this purpose.
As i said, this depends on perspective, because in terms of what conditions we feel and what other people feel is clearly different.
We have to be aware of our own condition whether we are able or not to borrow with the aim of investing and I also emphasized before that such a thing is also not wrong because those who borrow to invest have their own strategy.
Regardless of whether there is evidence or not, the most important thing in this case is to know yourself. If indeed you are able to do that then it's not a problem as long as you know the risks but vice versa if indeed you feel you will have difficulties and hassles with loans like this then don't do things that will make it difficult for you in the end.
the most fatal thing to do is they borrow money to invest in bitcoin, while they themselves do not have good knowledge about bitcoin, this happens because of the influence of wanting to get rich easily like their friends. but as long as in their calculations they can afford it it might not be a problem, if without careful calculations, then it is not only the material that is destroyed but it happens that many families are also destroyed because of their own mistakes. therefore we must be careful in our steps, try to know clearly the path we will go through
190  Economy / Economics / Re: Success is fundamentally determined by luck, not effort. on: May 20, 2023, 03:16:01 AM
Luck is also important along with the hard work and smart work. In my personal experience when we go with our hardwork and smartwork we will be able to be rich and turn successful in life and profession. This takes time, but the luckiest will be able to achieve what we've achieved in a short time period. This is simple as a hero's son getting an opportunity to act in a movie and a common man getting opportunity to act in a movie. The common man need to be lucky or else he should work hard for years and later he can be seen on movies.
for us human beings who are religious, success cannot be separated from effort and prayer. after we work hard and smart then the final result will be decisive, beyond our strength. often people do business and plans that have been well laid out, but in the end things don't go according to what was planned. with prayer can make our psychology more stable, so this will provide more optimal work. it's the same with trading, we do everything to be able to control our emotions so we can think healthy
191  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't claim to be an investor if it's still like this on: May 19, 2023, 02:27:25 PM
Woefully , there is a plenty of investors especially newbies and amateurs who don’t accept the losses despite it is a part of investment. In fact, If you don’t fail , work hard,  struggle, and makes mistakes , you will not gain experience and become proficient in this field although it is essential to learn from your own mistakes,  and turn them into lessons. Consequently you will be capable to achieve better results. Investing in crypto is definitely fruitful but in long term, it means if you are impatient, you will never achieve successful career Additionally, becoming wealthy isn’t easy nowadays, and investing large capital will not affirm and secure huge earnings  in returns. From my perspective, you should find additional sources of income instead of focusing and giving all your time on only one.
many people misinterpret investing healthily. where they have small capital but want thousands of percent profit to reach wealth, so they run on new investment projects without being equipped with sufficient knowledge and in the end the results are not as expected. choosing the right coin and placing logical targets must be understood so that we can be prepared to make long-term investments and can hold them relaxed in the face of price fluctuations
192  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Emotion and Trade? on: May 19, 2023, 02:19:08 PM
One must be emotional prepared or greed free before venturing into trading why because at the point of trying to make out ways of increasing your trading target or budget for the day or for the week per months you ends up losing funds at this point we apportioned it to be an emotional feelings. This is pure wrong, why people lost money while trading is a result of greed, anyone who can control greed can equally avoid emotional feelings being attached while trading.
I believe that even if you are free of greed and have control of your emotions, if you do not have the fundamental knowledge of trading, you are still doing nothing because I believe that in order to be a successful trader, you must be knowledgeable about trading and trading strategies, so if you have been free of greed or have control of your emotions and you still trade and lose, you still need to go back and learn more about trading and the technical side of trading.
Because of this, I think a trader who is losing money in his trading business will only stay in the market for a short time because he will become discouraged and believe there is no money in it, not realizing that he needs to learn more about it.
the most dominant thing to determine trading success is psychological, and techniques can be learned in a few months maybe, it is different with psychology, where no matter how good the technique is if it is not balanced with emotional stability then the strategy cannot work. and emotional can be trained by seeking experience in trading, usually done in stages, we sometimes often make mistakes that have been made before, even though we actually know it is wrong
193  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Earning online more preferable than offline? on: May 19, 2023, 02:11:44 PM
I think both online and offline are the same, just like trading, of course we will do the same work, even though in different criteria and have our own constraints. in offline work we are required to take care of our psychology as well, especially when dealing with many people who have their own character. but we personally have to determine our own path to pursue work online or offline, as long as we are happy doing it, it will make us love our work, and the results will follow
194  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I trade bitcoin? on: May 19, 2023, 02:02:59 PM
for me trading forex or bitcoin is the same, I usually use the same indicators and the same techniques too, if you experience an analysis error, it's normal, try again at another opportunity. we cannot force the market according to our wishes, but must be able to follow the will of the market. maybe there is something wrong with us, because I often also trade the same bitcoin in one platform with forex with leveraged trading, and it's not an obstacle, losing or winning is normal
195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much does Bitcoin affect other cryptocurrency? on: May 18, 2023, 10:50:49 PM
Bitcoin is the reigning coin and almost all investors, enthusiasts or traders prefer to enter the niche of this coin and invest in it. Even people who have invested in other crypto coins still have their base with crypto, having some coins to purchase there and sell off. Cryptocurrencies, like bitcoin, opened our eyes to the possibilities of decentralization and the downsides of centralized systems. Traders can trade futures and speculate on the future price movements of cryptocurrencies. Market sentiments is the key between price movements, which shows some kind of connection between Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
we know the dominance of bitcoin market capitalization which is of course almost half of the total thousands of existing altcoin market capitalization. From there, of course, we can imagine that it is not strange that bitcoin has the influence of market movements on other altcoins, so that it can be used as a formula for making transactions on altcoins, because the movement follows Bitcoin.
196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Know your time to HOLD on: May 18, 2023, 10:42:29 PM
My take on bitcoin in 2023 by the way it bought and was pumping pumping and pumping was like it will never stop. I thought it was my year to make my money and keep much of Bitcoin in my wallet. But the dullness of over 2 months has changed my mind. The scenario poured coldness in my mind but again let me know that bitcoin behaves like an asset and asset has the time to buy and sell not the way I thought it will always be be buying.

I have waited for the price to reach $25k for me to start pumping my money, it never reach there. I grows impatient daily, I won't wait more than 1st of July, any price I see it is what I buy.

I don't like to sound desperate, do I sound desperate or determine to make money?

Bitcoin HODLing for years can not be a lost affair.

 
It seems that you are investing an amount that you can’t afford to lose so that made you impatient with how the price of bitcoin is going through. You should have known in the first place that the market is highly volatile so expect that there will be more price swings and price decline that will be seen happening in the market. But if you have the patience to trust the process, long term hodling will never disappoint you as long as you also invest with positive mindset and the right attitude towards your long term investment.
identify the initial goal first in buying bitcoin, if you are for short-term trading, then it seems that you can still make money, but if you buy to get a pump in the near term, it seems that it is wrong. we all here don't know when there will be a bullrun on bitcoin, so it has to be long term. My advice is to improve your mindset or get out of the market immediately, because it could happen that bitcoin will fall below $ 25k like your purchase and can experience a longer bearish season
197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is "dying". on: May 18, 2023, 10:34:34 PM
Hello everyone. I don't want to sound pessimistic, but it looks like bitcoins ideas are dying.

Bitcoin offers us a solution. It may not be very accurate to give examples from those who use it for different purposes. Of course, there are those who think as you say. However, there are also those who hold the opposite view. Would it be possible for Bitcoin to survive without such people? I don't think Bitcoin ideas will ever disappear.
for those who are pessimistic about bitcoin, in their view, they may not be able to see the development of bitcoin, so that what exists bitcoin is only stagnant and has no future. but for those who have in-depth knowledge about bitcoin, of course they will not miss the opportunity to continue working and generate income through bitcoin, because there are so many ways that can be done
198  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Untuk Newbie] Alasan Untuk Tidak Trading Uang Pinjam on: May 17, 2023, 05:06:30 AM
hehe trading pake duit besar dan minjem itu big no no buat saya..
apalagi di crypto yang event black swamnya ampir tiap bulan  Grin

Terakhir minjem buat trading itu sebelum LUNA Crash..lebih2 saat itu ane trading pake lev  Cheesy..jadi sebelum LUNA nyungsep ke -0$ ane lagi trade pair luna-usdt..sempet berada di angka 60-70$ posisi ane long LUNA dan underwater..posisi mau kena margin call dan itu ada duit temen ane, biar selamet ya terpaksa melepas beberapa asset nft ane buat topup,,eh ane kira bakal minimal breakevent luna malah makin dalem wwkwkw..yaudah lah ane cutloss aja yang penting duit orang bisa ane balikin. Modal sisa 10% doang setelah kejadian over lev dan minjem duit orang itu.

Sejak itu sih ane mikir lebih baik trading pake duit sendiri karena resikonya lebih kecil hehehe, high reward high risk emang dah. Senggaknya tidur lebih nyenyak sedkit karena gak ada yang terror minta balikin duit xD

Saya pernah melakukan suatu pinjaman saat saat tahun 2020 pada teman saya dan pada saat itu mungkin situasi market lagi baik baiknya sehingga tidak ada tekanan yang terjadi pada diri saya pada saat saya mengambil pinjaman dan berhasil melunaskan secepat mungkin ketika saya mendapatkan keuntungan dalam periode tersebut, hal ini hanya sekali saya lakukan selebihnya saya tidak berani lagi karena situasi market yang saat ini sulit di prediksi. Kasus luna, ftx menjadi hal yang menakutkan untuk mengambil pinjaman guna trading dan itu adalah resiko yang cukup besar bila mana situasi market berubah secara cepat.

Selain itu saya setuju dengan anda, bertrading dengan uang sendiri lebih nyaman, apalagi hanya bermain di perdagangan spot yang tentu saja tidak terbebani ketika harga turun karena bisa di hold dalam situasi hal tersebut.
kita harus dapat mengukur kemampuan pribadi dalam melakukan trading, sehingga dapat memutuskan berani meminjam atau tidak. sama halnya dengan saya lebih baik menggunakan uang pribadi meski dengan modal yang kecil, karena kenyamanan dalam berdagang sangatlah diperlukan, dan karena kira sudah memahami risk dan rewardsnya dalam trading, maka segala tindakan harus menggunakan perhitungan seperti halnya meminjam uang. lain halnya kalau saya sudah menjadi trader pro, tentunya berani memegang dana investor dengan kontrak yang dapat dikatakan rumit untuk dilakukan oleh orang seperti saya Grin
199  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Q&A)Apa alasan anda bergabung ke situs bitcointalk? on: May 17, 2023, 04:52:24 AM
pertama tama yang saya pikirkan adalah dapt menghasilkan uang, meskipun setelah bergabung saya mempelajarinya terlebih dahulu tanpa memikirkan hasil, untuk dapat berkomunikasi di forum ini tentunya harus mempunyai pengetahuan tentang topik tertentu sehingga dapat nyambung pembicaraannya, dan bila belum mengerti maksud, maka tidak segan untuk bertanya kepada teman, hingga akhirnya mengerti sedikit demi sedikit dan aktif pada forum hingga mendapat kenaikan rangking minimum untuk dapat bergabung pada signature. waktu itu tanpa disangka penghasilan pertama saya tahun 2017 sangat fantastis, meskipun masih rangking member, proyek centra kalau tidak salah waktu itu, dan akhirnya dengan menerima pembayaran pertama itu menjadi lebih giat untuk belajar tentang cryptocurrency, hingga akhirnya merambah pada diskusi trading, yang memang saya rancang untuk jangka panjang, karena trading tidak semudah yang dibayangkan
200  Economy / Economics / Re: If the dollar/fiat was worthless! on: May 14, 2023, 12:18:23 PM
if the dollar becomes worthless, it could happen that bitcoin will have an inflated value when converted to dollars, considering that the basis for determining the price of bitcoin occurs due to supply and demand. it can happen before that many people will divert their money to bitcoin, thus making the price soar, especially for those who have a lot of money, of course it will save it or even make it more
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