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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 06, 2015, 07:55:47 AM
There's some minor issue with the budget this month, I think we need to manually push the finalized budget through. Can everyone with masternodes use this to vote?

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mnfinalbudget vote-many 889434069cf006fa7acba96e8b823d416ed2809ea5abdc6d762df9cf56d98740

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"main" : {
        "FeeTX" : "86d32ec608f0643293a3b90cc6e2318a141b1ed636ca21bacb3f104905ba0113",
        "Hash" : "889434069cf006fa7acba96e8b823d416ed2809ea5abdc6d762df9cf56d98740",
        "BlockStart" : 348936,
        "BlockEnd" : 348942,
        "Proposals" : "public-awareness,core-team,electrum-pt-2,website-pt-1,Tennis_Reimbursement,foundation-pt-2,liquidity-provider",
        "VoteCount" : 183,
        "Status" : "OK",
        "IsValid" : true,
        "IsValidReason" : ""
    },

I'd look into it more, but I'm sitting in the airport lobby in Amsterdam... kind of busy  Roll Eyes
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 04, 2015, 03:41:07 PM
...

Uh - I do think that your suppose the BUY on the down slide [dumb-ass]

I really do think you'd pitch a bitch if fucking McDonald's said you get 200 fries with each order - and by accident they gave you 202...
You'd really flip your shit huh??
The sad thing is that you actually counted those damn fries...
[fucking dumb-ass kid]
siktir git

I gave a condition for my trade and it didn't confirm.

If we break above 0.011, I believe this was a false breakdown <-- We never broke above 0.011


I guess trolls can't read? Not surprising. Anyway, I'm still buying.  Wink
183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 02, 2015, 05:02:56 PM
Are you going to Bitcoin Wednesday?

Reserve your spot now, there's only 8 spots left

http://www.meetup.com/BitcoinWednesday/events/222357855/?src=meet&cmp=mail-02-10-2015&cnt=now
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: September 30, 2015, 01:45:48 AM
where can i finf full DASH specs?

ie: algo
block times
how much coin was premined
how many coins for masternode
how many coins a block
whats % for masternode etc

i cant find it after Dark got into Dash

can somebody help?

Here is everything https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/About+Dash

Damn, you're fast! But I'll post anyway  Grin

algo: X11
block time: 2.5 minutes (~2.6 in real)
0 premine
1000 DASH per masternode
5-25 coins first year depending on difficulty, decreasing 7% every 210240 blocks (~1 year)
45% to MN / 45% to miner / up to 10% to DGBB (DGBB reward is produced in superblocks so regular blocks are decreased by 10% and looks like 50% to MN / 50% to miner)

some info is also here https://www.dashpay.io/specifications/
some current stats http://178.254.18.153/~pub/Darkcoin/masternode_payments_stats.html

What is DGBB?  Roll Eyes
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 29, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
Yes, this would be a fantastic idea if dash wasn't an oligarchy of instaminers.

In the end we're all going after the same thing, a replacement for fiat, that can't corrupted or controlled by any single entity.

Requirements:
- Fungibility - All units of the current must be interchangeable (after sending coins they shouldn't have history attached)
- Speed - The currency must be able to compete with credit cards (1-5 second double-spend proof confirmations)
- Governance - The currency must be governed in a decentralized and decisive way
- Funding - The currency must have a permanent decentralized funding source for development, marketing, legal, etc
- Scalability - The currency must be able to scale to billions of transactions per day with 100% decentralization
- Ease Of Use - The currency must be usable by normal every day people

We're working on solving these problems, how's your progress going? If you don't like the instamine, go start a project and compete with our ideas with other fresh and new ideas. If you aren't trying to solve these problems, why are you here?
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: September 29, 2015, 12:46:35 AM
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EDIT Btw: do I remeber this right, that alle the denomination fees go to the block rewards?
yep, all fees (except proposal preparation fee which is destroyed) go to block reward

Why is the proposal preparation fee destroyed? I imagine there's a good reason for it, but couldn't it go towards the block reward too?

The security model is you destroy 5 DASH via an OP_RETURN, with a hash of the proposal included in the output. This means the 5DASH is not spendable and will be excluded from the mempool afterward, also that the user can recreate the 5DASH in the proposal if it's approved. The idea really is that you should be sure enough about the proposal getting approved that you won't actually lose the 5DASH, you're just recreating it.
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: September 28, 2015, 08:51:58 PM
Comfortable, trustless masternode budget voting - Dashwhale.org

We are very exited to announce the launch of our new voting service, allowing you to comfortably submit your DASH budget votes via the Dashwhale website. For the setup, you simply have enter your masternode privkeys on your masternode settings page. These privkeys are encrypted in your browser with a passphrase, to ensure, that even we don't have access to your privkeys. To cast you votes, simply press the "Vote YES" or "Vote NO" button on the proposal page, enter your passphrase and you are done.

Nobody likes to fiddle around with the DASH wallet on command line, to vote for the large amount of budget proposals. We hope, comfortable & safe voting via the Dashwhale website, will further improve voting activity.

https://www.dashwhale.org

Special thanks deserve UdjinM6 (raw voting and js signing) and Evan (concept of trustless voting).

Best,
Rango

P.S. Feel free to audit the javascript code and client/server communication. If somebody want's to post the screenshot on my behalf: https://www.dashwhale.org/downloads/dw_screenshot7.png I still can't post screenshots due to some kind of image post lock.

Site is down ATM. "502 Bad Gateway"

working for me.
Yep, back up!

Everyone should try trustless voting on DashWhale... this is amazing  Grin
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: September 28, 2015, 07:25:04 PM
V0.12.0.55 Is Out!

- Huge Chinese/Japanese Update
- gettransaction now works with IX
- fix LP inter-mixing by not initiating new queues by them (Udjin)
- Support for trustless proposal voting (DashWhale)
- SK translation
- DS - try to use inputs with the same number of rounds (Udjin)
- GetRemainingPaymentCount was off by one

https://www.dashpay.io/downloads/
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: September 28, 2015, 03:38:34 PM
MN went down @ 03:55

Not getting paid this week - maybe next time - hummmmmm

and today was the payout day :-(
now 3x payouts missed...wtf??

Didn't setup the crontab to monitor dashd? I'm guessing you just don't have enough ram, v12 can use up to 512MB in short bursts. V13 will solve that problem, plus many more. In the mean time you should setup the monitoring script.
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 27, 2015, 10:00:53 PM
As for what you plan meeting reality and mashing algos together being good crypto, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Yes, lets just talk about this then. How is X11 bad for crypto?

It's used for proof-of-work and protecting our decentralized oracle implementation. How would you use a weakness in one of the 11 algorithms to attack the currency?

Do you also realize if I'm wrong and we got attacked, we would just switch to another algorithm? Just like if SHA256 had issues, the bitcoin team would have to switch as well. Instead of switching out the entire algorithm, we could use 10 hashes instead of 11 as the chain.

Also, speaking of distribution. The whole idea behind inventing X11 was that it would reduce the heat/wear-and-tear on GPUs that were used for mining. This allowed a really long period (...still going after 1.5 years) of hobbyist miners using GPUs to mine Dash.
191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 27, 2015, 09:55:29 PM
What an utterly irresponsible response for a coin's core dev/founder to make.

The uncalled for, unprofessional, baseless assumption of motivations ('I guess you bought hype about Darkcoin when it was $12') is bad enough.

You're right. I take it back, I shouldn't have speculated.

But the 'everybody does it' tu quoquo is an atrocious deflection of responsibility for Dash's uniquely botched launch and concomitant insta/pre/oopsy-mine.

I take 100% responsibility for the instamine as a bug and as a feature of Dash. As it turns out, all cryptocurrencies have founders with more than 5%. It's not "everybody does it", but "it's required for the success of a cryptocurrency".
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 27, 2015, 09:41:03 PM
Your article doesn't persuade that the coin is fairly distributed. It's based on circumstantial evidence and supposed common sense--whereas the most common sense move would have been to relaunch the coin after the faulty launch (supposing that is the truth).

I did relaunch the coin! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4588649#msg4588649

The first launch was broken and not "fair" so I relaunched...

You can't have a decentralized, fungible, private currency with too many coins being held in too few hands*.

Mass Adoption is the goal.... lots of hands are going to be in the pot.

I don't, anymore than i trust mashing 11 algos together is best practices in crypto or having human fail points in a privacy scheme is a good idea.

Anyone that says X11 isn't secure doesn't understand how it's actually being used. Apples and Oranges.
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 27, 2015, 08:59:26 PM
Never mind that a fair launch means everyone has a fair chance to mine. But accepting your premise that everyone instamines, I'm still left to trust that the coin is fairly distributed with just your say so and market information that could be manipulated (instaminers trading coins with themselves). And i have a hard trusting anyone whose defense is "but everyone does it."

And again, couldn't you foresee answering posts like this by not relaunching the coin if it was indeed accidentally instamined? Though I have my doubts about that being true given your nonchalant defense of the instamine.

A fair chance to mine? Was the code available? Yes . Was it pre-announced? Yes.

I'm still left to trust that the coin is fairly distributed with just your say so? There's proof in the article you didn't read. https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

And i have a hard trusting anyone whose defense is "but everyone does it.".

The "defense" is that founders need to be found. All cryptos that are successful have some sort of instamine. You might as well just get over it. Crypto is about trying to find solutions to fungibility, privacy, mass-adoption and pure decentralization. We are winning in all of those categories and if you get lost on minor details, like the launch, you're missing the bigger picture. Dash is the most advanced currency to ever exist and we have solved all of the problems in the space, next step is bringing it to the public. Do you think they care about the distribution of the coin? No.

We're trying to make the very first truly decentralized ecosystem to ever exist. From when you put in your money, to when you eventually get it out of the currency later, must ALL be decentralized. Who doesn't want that? That's not what Bitcoin is, it's a completely centralized ecosystem (one semi-decentralized currency, with 100% centralized companies to interact with).

Why is Bitcoin not 100% decentralized? The have centralized fungibility (bitcoinfog, sharedcoin, etc), centralized instant transactions (greenaddress), centralized funding (college grant money), centralized fiat conversion (coinbase, etc), centralized decision making, centralized governance... everything except the proof of work aspect is 100% old school. We need to move away from this, to something more decentralized, something that can't be corrupted. That is DASH.

Watch the video series if you actually want to learn what we're about: https://www.dashpay.io/dash-video-series/
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 27, 2015, 08:49:20 PM
Definitely not. I'll also follow up with this post when I do set a time.

"Definitely not."  We all know he went on to launch it a couple of hours later. Bravo Evan, you're a class act. The pinnacle of integrity and professionalism.

I said "Definitely not. I'll also follow up with this post when I do set a time. "


Then 3 posts below, I set the time... like I said above. Can't read?
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 27, 2015, 08:39:34 PM
Are you saying your coin was as fairly launched as Bitcoin?

Yes, it was launched as fair as Bitcoin. It was launched with prior notice and a completely public source code. Bugs or no bugs, it was completely transparent.

Also, didn't you realize that not relaunching after the accidental mine would forever taint your launch with the possibility of insider manipulation?[/b] In my estimation, you either failed to see the obvious or you are currently misleading people. Either way, it's a losing proposition for an investor who values quality leadership.

Insider manipulation? Watch my video here about Virtual Corporations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEJKZjTx9Bg

This is the structure that stops that from being a problem. People that have shares from the instamine or that are issued through the setup of a virtual corporation will have to sign some bylaws, which will make that type of behavior impossible. The founders need incentives, but they also need rules, which is what we're working on.

As for tainting the coin forever? All coins have instamines, some of them are slower than others. That's the point. Any coin that is even moderately successful has founders with more than 5% of the supply. That's called incentivizing the founders, it's required.

In the end the ONLY point of a fair launch is for distribution. So now answer my question:

Is the Dash distribution currently better than Bitcoins on July, 1 2010 (1.5 years after launch)?
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 27, 2015, 08:23:47 PM
Are you saying your coin was as fairly launched as Bitcoin? Also, didn't you realize that not relaunching after the accidental mine would forever taint your launch with the possibility of insider manipulation? In my estimation, you either failed to see the obvious or you are currently misleading people. Either way, it's a losing proposition for an investor who values quality leadership.

Is the Dash distribution currently better than Bitcoins on July, 1 2010 (1.5 years after launch)? YES! Can you prove otherwise?

There is no such thing as a fair distribution, Bitcoin, Litecoin, etc... they ALL have declining supply curves. That is mathematically defined unfair distribution, where most of the coins are issued up front. Life is unfair, you can't always catch a coin when it launches and make a bunch of money off of it.

The community should support competition in the space and all projects where there is a lot of effort. We need more ideas in this space, not less. If Bitcoin had it's way, all of our "silly projects" would be killed off and it would be a monopoly in the space, the only game in town. This isn't healthy for a free market, we should be exploring as many new ideas as possible, to try and find the real solutions, the ones the Bitcoin devs don't care to look into (like decentralized governance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bx0quM-h0 and virtual corporations so that we could have a truly decentralized ecosystem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEJKZjTx9Bg)
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 27, 2015, 08:05:27 PM
So eduffield says the instamine wasn't a scam, i guess that's all the proof I need!  Roll Eyes

What do you expect, that's he'll admit it?

Was the instamine a scam? "Definitely not"

Ok now it insta crashes when I type "setgenerate true".

Time to go to bed and try again next week?


Yeah, let's do that. I obviously need to do some more testing. Thanks everyone!

Best thing to do I guess. Please, confirm you won't be launching after some minutes/hours even if you fix it, and the sooner would be tomorrow, thanks.

Definitely not. I'll also follow up with this post when I do set a time.

Seeing a pattern?

Deceptive launch time, lack of windows wallets, the supposed "bug" that instamined over 23% of the total coins in circulation in 8 hours - anyone with brain sees exactly what happened here.


In regards to this: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

What is your response to this:

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If you don’t like that it was an instamine, that’s fine, go invest in something else.

If you don't like hearing criticism about your oops!stamined scamcoin, that's fine, go click on another thread.

I'm going to venture a guess. You bought the original hype about Darkcoin when it was $12-15 (when we had no technology and just ideas!), then it fell to $5 and you were looking for something to blame and learned about the instamine? You've been waiting for months for it to collapse and it's not (real next-gen technology, really amazing 50+ member team, 10000+ hours of work has been put into this project in the last 1.5 years). What are you going to do when you finally realize it's not a scam, then it takes off and no one cares about the instamine because the technology is whats important?

The whole instamine is over blown because every coin that's even moderately successful has founders with >5%. Dash is on the low end, our founders have way less coins than the Bitcoin devs, Ripple, etc. Bitcoin for example was unknown with a handful of miners for nearly 1-2 years, they mined 6 million coins during that time. Satoshi alone was thought to have 10%. Our entire team combined has less than 10% of the supply (current supply, not total). So what?

What about corporations? They all start out with "Instamines". Does that make every corporation in history a scam?
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: September 27, 2015, 07:54:06 PM
I dont understand why some people become obsessed about instamine. It was 1,5 years ago and i guess all of them had been distributed till now. Satoshi and Hal have millions bitcoin and these bitcoin are still there. It s not like a premine? Huh?  If you are not happy with instamine why do you use Bitcoin?
I think fudders cant find anything to attack on DASH so they perpetually revive this issue.

That's pretty much the point that article is making. The whole instamine is over blown because every coin that's even moderately successful has founders with >5%. Dash is on the low end, our founders have way less coins than the Bitcoin devs, Ripple, etc. Bitcoin for example was unknown with a handful of miners for nearly 1-2 years, they mined 6 million coins during that time. Satoshi alone was thought to have 10%. Our entire team combined has less than 10% of the supply (current supply, not total). So what?
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: September 27, 2015, 06:46:42 PM
Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash?

https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature, it's also why we're continuing to be a success.
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC vs. DASH on: September 27, 2015, 06:19:24 PM
There's lot's of false information rolling around this thread  Roll Eyes

Here's an interview that clarifies the instamine and what happened: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature, it's also why we're continuing to be a success.

If you want to learn about the technology, watch the video series. (there's a hidden message in the series somewhere that no one has found  Grin)

https://www.dashpay.io/dash-video-series/

if i where you i'd also say that the instamine is now a feature... at least you got a huge amount of coins that way Huh

I'm going to venture a guess that you either read at 1000wpm or you didn't read that article.
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