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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9723490 times)
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September 28, 2015, 07:53:23 PM


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September 28, 2015, 07:59:53 PM

V0.12.0.55 Is Out!

- Huge Chinese/Japanese Update
- gettransaction now works with IX
- fix LP inter-mixing by not initiating new queues by them (Udjin)
- Support for trustless proposal voting (DashWhale)
- SK translation
- DS - try to use inputs with the same number of rounds (Udjin)
- GetRemainingPaymentCount was off by one

https://www.dashpay.io/downloads/
Great stuff! Tweeted.

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Single-user linux users, use my script for the easiest update possible!

https://github.com/moocowmoo/dashman



I've started using this and it's a godsend!

Dashman for updates, DashWhale for voting/monitoring...running an MN is now MUCH easier!

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September 28, 2015, 08:20:02 PM


Single-user linux users, use my script for the easiest update possible!

https://github.com/moocowmoo/dashman



I've started using this and it's a godsend!

Dashman for updates, DashWhale for voting/monitoring...running an MN is now MUCH easier!
I can confirm this. Those two services are like catnip to MN owners!

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September 28, 2015, 08:29:25 PM

Comfortable, trustless masternode budget voting - Dashwhale.org

We are very exited to announce the launch of our new voting service, allowing you to comfortably submit your DASH budget votes via the Dashwhale website. For the setup, you simply have enter your masternode privkeys on your masternode settings page. These privkeys are encrypted in your browser with a passphrase, to ensure, that even we don't have access to your privkeys. To cast you votes, simply press the "Vote YES" or "Vote NO" button on the proposal page, enter your passphrase and you are done.

Nobody likes to fiddle around with the DASH wallet on command line, to vote for the large amount of budget proposals. We hope, comfortable & safe voting via the Dashwhale website, will further improve voting activity.

https://www.dashwhale.org

Special thanks deserve UdjinM6 (raw voting and js signing) and Evan (concept of trustless voting).

Best,
Rango

P.S. Feel free to audit the javascript code and client/server communication. If somebody want's to post the screenshot on my behalf: https://www.dashwhale.org/downloads/dw_screenshot7.png I still can't post screenshots due to some kind of image post lock.

Site is down ATM. "502 Bad Gateway"

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September 28, 2015, 08:33:17 PM

Comfortable, trustless masternode budget voting - Dashwhale.org

We are very exited to announce the launch of our new voting service, allowing you to comfortably submit your DASH budget votes via the Dashwhale website. For the setup, you simply have enter your masternode privkeys on your masternode settings page. These privkeys are encrypted in your browser with a passphrase, to ensure, that even we don't have access to your privkeys. To cast you votes, simply press the "Vote YES" or "Vote NO" button on the proposal page, enter your passphrase and you are done.

Nobody likes to fiddle around with the DASH wallet on command line, to vote for the large amount of budget proposals. We hope, comfortable & safe voting via the Dashwhale website, will further improve voting activity.

https://www.dashwhale.org

Special thanks deserve UdjinM6 (raw voting and js signing) and Evan (concept of trustless voting).

Best,
Rango

P.S. Feel free to audit the javascript code and client/server communication. If somebody want's to post the screenshot on my behalf: https://www.dashwhale.org/downloads/dw_screenshot7.png I still can't post screenshots due to some kind of image post lock.

Site is down ATM. "502 Bad Gateway"

working for me.
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September 28, 2015, 08:35:22 PM

Comfortable, trustless masternode budget voting - Dashwhale.org

We are very exited to announce the launch of our new voting service, allowing you to comfortably submit your DASH budget votes via the Dashwhale website. For the setup, you simply have enter your masternode privkeys on your masternode settings page. These privkeys are encrypted in your browser with a passphrase, to ensure, that even we don't have access to your privkeys. To cast you votes, simply press the "Vote YES" or "Vote NO" button on the proposal page, enter your passphrase and you are done.

Nobody likes to fiddle around with the DASH wallet on command line, to vote for the large amount of budget proposals. We hope, comfortable & safe voting via the Dashwhale website, will further improve voting activity.

https://www.dashwhale.org

Special thanks deserve UdjinM6 (raw voting and js signing) and Evan (concept of trustless voting).

Best,
Rango

P.S. Feel free to audit the javascript code and client/server communication. If somebody want's to post the screenshot on my behalf: https://www.dashwhale.org/downloads/dw_screenshot7.png I still can't post screenshots due to some kind of image post lock.

Site is down ATM. "502 Bad Gateway"

working for me.
Yep, back up!

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September 28, 2015, 08:51:58 PM

Comfortable, trustless masternode budget voting - Dashwhale.org

We are very exited to announce the launch of our new voting service, allowing you to comfortably submit your DASH budget votes via the Dashwhale website. For the setup, you simply have enter your masternode privkeys on your masternode settings page. These privkeys are encrypted in your browser with a passphrase, to ensure, that even we don't have access to your privkeys. To cast you votes, simply press the "Vote YES" or "Vote NO" button on the proposal page, enter your passphrase and you are done.

Nobody likes to fiddle around with the DASH wallet on command line, to vote for the large amount of budget proposals. We hope, comfortable & safe voting via the Dashwhale website, will further improve voting activity.

https://www.dashwhale.org

Special thanks deserve UdjinM6 (raw voting and js signing) and Evan (concept of trustless voting).

Best,
Rango

P.S. Feel free to audit the javascript code and client/server communication. If somebody want's to post the screenshot on my behalf: https://www.dashwhale.org/downloads/dw_screenshot7.png I still can't post screenshots due to some kind of image post lock.

Site is down ATM. "502 Bad Gateway"

working for me.
Yep, back up!

Everyone should try trustless voting on DashWhale... this is amazing  Grin

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September 28, 2015, 09:18:45 PM

Comfortable, trustless masternode budget voting - Dashwhale.org

We are very exited to announce the launch of our new voting service, allowing you to comfortably submit your DASH budget votes via the Dashwhale website. For the setup, you simply have enter your masternode privkeys on your masternode settings page. These privkeys are encrypted in your browser with a passphrase, to ensure, that even we don't have access to your privkeys. To cast you votes, simply press the "Vote YES" or "Vote NO" button on the proposal page, enter your passphrase and you are done.

Nobody likes to fiddle around with the DASH wallet on command line, to vote for the large amount of budget proposals. We hope, comfortable & safe voting via the Dashwhale website, will further improve voting activity.

https://www.dashwhale.org

Special thanks deserve UdjinM6 (raw voting and js signing) and Evan (concept of trustless voting).

Best,
Rango

P.S. Feel free to audit the javascript code and client/server communication. If somebody want's to post the screenshot on my behalf: https://www.dashwhale.org/downloads/dw_screenshot7.png I still can't post screenshots due to some kind of image post lock.

Site is down ATM. "502 Bad Gateway"

working for me.
Yep, back up!

Everyone should try trustless voting on DashWhale... this is amazing  Grin

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September 28, 2015, 09:59:23 PM


I just tried it.

That is awesome.
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September 28, 2015, 10:51:56 PM

So darksend transaction fees can be very large compared to other cryptos since it rounds up to .1 dash. Is anything going to be done about that?
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September 28, 2015, 11:05:34 PM

So darksend transaction fees can be very large compared to other cryptos since it rounds up to .1 dash. Is anything going to be done about that?
0.1 = ~20 cents. Once we are 10 times larger (i.e. $20 per DASH) we'll just introduce new denomination. Until then it doesn't make sense to mix such small amounts (0.01 is ~2 cents now) via DS.

EDIT: or we'll switch to v13 magic (whichever comes first Smiley )

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September 28, 2015, 11:06:09 PM

So darksend transaction fees can be very large compared to other cryptos since it rounds up to .1 dash. Is anything going to be done about that?

I hope this will affect the fees in a positive way too? :

We've made some massive progress on the DS side and the next version will support network wide anonymity, that doesn't obscure UTXO like cryptonote, is instantaneous, has no bload, has blinding and other identity protection built in. We won't require a name anymore for the service, because it's not a service, Dash will just be anonymous by default.

EDIT Btw: do I remeber this right, that alle the denomination fees go to the block rewards?
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September 28, 2015, 11:16:18 PM

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EDIT Btw: do I remeber this right, that alle the denomination fees go to the block rewards?
yep, all fees (except proposal preparation fee which is destroyed) go to block reward

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September 29, 2015, 12:09:52 AM

That cryptsy wall is getting chewed out like its nobodies business....get in while it lasts!
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EDIT Btw: do I remeber this right, that alle the denomination fees go to the block rewards?
yep, all fees (except proposal preparation fee which is destroyed) go to block reward

Why is the proposal preparation fee destroyed? I imagine there's a good reason for it, but couldn't it go towards the block reward too?
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September 29, 2015, 12:46:35 AM

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EDIT Btw: do I remeber this right, that alle the denomination fees go to the block rewards?
yep, all fees (except proposal preparation fee which is destroyed) go to block reward

Why is the proposal preparation fee destroyed? I imagine there's a good reason for it, but couldn't it go towards the block reward too?

The security model is you destroy 5 DASH via an OP_RETURN, with a hash of the proposal included in the output. This means the 5DASH is not spendable and will be excluded from the mempool afterward, also that the user can recreate the 5DASH in the proposal if it's approved. The idea really is that you should be sure enough about the proposal getting approved that you won't actually lose the 5DASH, you're just recreating it.

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September 29, 2015, 01:02:52 AM

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EDIT Btw: do I remeber this right, that alle the denomination fees go to the block rewards?
yep, all fees (except proposal preparation fee which is destroyed) go to block reward

Why is the proposal preparation fee destroyed? I imagine there's a good reason for it, but couldn't it go towards the block reward too?

The security model is you destroy 5 DASH via an OP_RETURN, with a hash of the proposal included in the output. This means the 5DASH is not spendable and will be excluded from the mempool afterward, also that the user can recreate the 5DASH in the proposal if it's approved. The idea really is that you should be sure enough about the proposal getting approved that you won't actually lose the 5DASH, you're just recreating it.

Cheers  Smiley
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September 29, 2015, 01:12:27 AM

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EDIT Btw: do I remeber this right, that alle the denomination fees go to the block rewards?
yep, all fees (except proposal preparation fee which is destroyed) go to block reward

Why is the proposal preparation fee destroyed? I imagine there's a good reason for it, but couldn't it go towards the block reward too?
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Another principle is that system should treat all proposal submitters equally i.e. this fee should also be equal for them. But a MN owner can see that his MN is going to be paid next ("masternode winners") so he could (potentially) try to prepare proposal (i.e. pay that fee) in the "right" block to "get a discount". Could be smth like this: block reward would be fee(5)+"normal block reward"(~6, according to http://178.254.18.153/~pub/Darkcoin/masternode_payments_stats.html ) => reward will be ~11/2=~5.5 instead of normal ~6/2=~3 i.e. MN owner would get half of his proposal fee back (or get a 50% "discount" if you like). To avoid such situations and make process of submitting proposals more fair to everyone it's better to destroy proposal fee completely.

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September 29, 2015, 01:15:56 AM

V0.12.0.55 Is Out!

- Huge Chinese/Japanese Update
- gettransaction now works with IX
- fix LP inter-mixing by not initiating new queues by them (Udjin)
- Support for trustless proposal voting (DashWhale)
- SK translation
- DS - try to use inputs with the same number of rounds (Udjin)
- GetRemainingPaymentCount was off by one

https://www.dashpay.io/downloads/


pump, please explain more about this "- Support for trustless proposal voting (DashWhale)"

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