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181  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 02:07:43 PM
And there we go to 270$
People already dumping  Undecided

But what made them start dumping and killing BTC again??? What's in the news that's taking down BTC?

sell teh news - well sheepfarm over here Wink

let us see if we are above 270 or not tonight - I have an assumption but probably the market is more stupid than one could imagine
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BCN Bytecoin - The One, true Cryptonote challenger in the Anonymous Crypto World on: January 26, 2015, 12:48:50 PM
we can start discussing about bytecoin when you guys decide to burn the 80% hidden mine.

if there is a chance for a second currency besides bitcoin it will not be a coin where almost all supply is hold by a group of 10-20 people.

I stay with my prediction that it will be monero
183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 25, 2015, 11:03:11 PM
most interesting question for me now is who was responsible for the crash a week and a half ago ?
184  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Exchanges: Amateur hour is over on: January 25, 2015, 10:59:41 PM
as written in the winklevoss exchange.

one of the most legitimate critiques on btc is the bottleneck problem as the way btc interoperates with the fiat world.

having an exchange, which is trustable due to regulation minimizes this problem. we will probably see another group of traders and investors when this exchange lifts off.
185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 25, 2015, 10:42:04 PM
How is this good news?

My thought is this makes the acquisition of BTC safer, easier, and more available.

yep horrible news - one does not get busted by the exchanges so you only have to buy your bitcoins once, not twice or three times

less demand

sell all your coins  Grin
186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 25, 2015, 10:12:05 PM
First U.S. Bitcoin Exchange Set to Open
Coinbase Has Backing From the NYSE, Banks and Venture Capitalists
http://www.wsj.com/articles/first-u-s-bitcoin-exchange-set-to-open-1422221641

Is this their lunar announcement ?

It's big enough for me.

can someone post the whole article here
187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Winklevoss launching "Gemini" serving bitcoin to wall street on a golden plate on: January 24, 2015, 12:51:29 PM
regarding time fram (semi-speculative).

I remember lawsky saying that he expects a regulated exchange soon aftern bitlicense goes live, I think he even said around march.

I'm too lazy to look it up now but I think he said it in the course of discussion of the improvement of the bitlicense (around mid-december, maybe little earlier).

if he meant this exchange is written on a different piece of paper
188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Winklevoss launching "Gemini" serving bitcoin to wall street on a golden plate on: January 23, 2015, 08:56:25 AM
if they do not fuck it up it is quite big news.

one of the most legimate critiques on bitcoin is the bottleneck problem, e.g. the point where the system interoperates with the fiat world.

this was up to this point valid, because you had to trust exchanges, which were run at best in a grey area of jurisdiction. these exchanges were almost solely responsible for the external price determination of bitcoin.

if they manage to reduce this problem they really strengthen the ecosystem of bitcoin.
189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 23, 2015, 08:09:12 AM
Forum back online & we back to up 230.

I wonder how low we would be if site went down for some day

New bitcoin exchange in the USA

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/winklevoss-twins-aim-to-take-bitcoin-mainstream-with-a-regulated-exchange/?_r=0

also the news is probably wrong.


This entire site and post looks like a big hoax to me.


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(an ETF focused on bringing bitcoin investment exposure to main street investors)
WTF is main street?

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(including me and Tyler)
You would rather say "Tyler and me".


The domain is registered at the Scamhost "GoDaddy" with the email "geminiholdingsllc@gmail.com" LoL. (https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=gemini.com&prog_id=GoDaddy)

A quick search for "Gemini IP, LLC" gives multiple results on google from 2013 and before in different states like Wisconsin and Texas LoL.

yep all fake and hoax,

it is so fake that one of the twins posted the news with his verified reddit account
190  Economy / Economics / Re: Is crypto as a financial investment doomed? on: January 21, 2015, 04:35:30 PM
There's no need for more than one cryptocurrency, and Bitcoin won that race.

The other crypto currencies have shown us that bitcoin could be worthless like the ________(100s, 1000s, Huh?) of alt coins.   
I don't believe that it will be worthless, but it has no reason to be worth anything if something else came along that did the same thing, but had a better infrastructure, which is the only reason btc is better than any other crypto by a landslide.



you guys are aware that building infrastructure is not a fingersnip aren't you?

go to the altcoin landscape, there are wonderful technological advanced currency maybe far better than bitcoin at its core which fail brutally.

that bitcoin fails like an altcoin will not happen and in the case it will be replaced it will take enough time that everyone here will see it - the altcoin having the plan to replace bitcoin should really really hurry
191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
since all this price discovery games are psychological/sociological and at this point completely detached from the fundamentals I think we buttomed - even in the case we did not I think it is a wonderful time to buy because I assume we will not see a long term price level far beyond the current one.
192  Economy / Economics / Re: Is crypto as a financial investment doomed? on: January 21, 2015, 04:05:09 PM
if you explain how to clone network effects: yes i think it is doomed.

before that I think we are sitting on one of the most interesting disrupting technology one can imagine.

the only question is if bitcoin can hold its omnipotential state; networking much stronger than any other cryptocurrency out there and therefore not giving any place for altcoins

at this point of time my answer is yes with some reservations (this changed from a strong yes) - there is this wonderful post of Peter R in the altcoin observer, which lead me to this conclusion.

regarding cloning or diluting, value of cryptocurrencies is derived by network effects, not technological advancement. I wish a central institution good luck with creating private money or a cryptocurrency, when it is known that a decentralized consensus can basically do the same and is existent.

afaik your information regarding counterparty/ medici are at best misleading. they will run medici on top of counterparty.

keep up the good work on xmr, if there is place for a second big currency it will be this one Wink.

we are simply in a bear market where everything is put in question.
193  Economy / Speculation / Re: The next bull market on: January 20, 2015, 04:14:03 PM
every persons which is not completely blind can see that we are in a bear bubble.

the announcement of coinbase is nothing but huge; not the amount of raised capital but who is giving the capital.

I assume we see a massive change within the next 1-2 months and me for the very first time believes that this crash was not driven by free markets but by massive manipulation
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread on: January 20, 2015, 12:39:59 PM
hopefully someone can go today and we can see what the real deal is.


http://www.meetup.com/BitcoinCenterNYC/events/213645872/

Satoshi Monday ft. Overstock's Medici Platform

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This Monday, January 19th, Satoshi Square will be having a presentation from Overstock.com about their upcoming Medici crypto-equity platform.

Good news???

Haha, I was there. Was anyone else?

only got the snippets from here, don't know if they recorded it

https://twitter.com/BitcoinCenterNY

if this guy rephrases correctly it will be build on top of counterparty Smiley
195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 03:40:39 PM
What will friday bring. Cheesy
https://twitter.com/AdamGuerbuez/status/555289659958628352
(guy who twitted about stamp problems 24h before stamp went down...)

https://twitter.com/AdamGuerbuez/status/555211459010256897

this does not sound as bullish as the latest post.

I assume some people here know what is happening - I do not.

196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 23, 2014, 12:09:31 AM
been away from XMR for a couple months. holy cow re price.

Still it may not be the optimal entry point as the emission is still relatively high. Currently.

12.5 XMR/min => 18000 XMR/day
at 0.001 BTC/XMR => 18 BTC/day

compare that with f.e. litecoin: 50 LTC/2.5 min => 28800 LTC/day
at 0.0087 BTC/LTC => 250 BTC/day

what we need is adoption, when adoption comes, the current XMR exchange rate is just ridiculously low.

What adoption does LTC have?

As far as I can tell every coin except bitcoin is 100% speculation and bitcoin is ~99% speculation.


maybe adoption was the wrong word. If people hold a coin, they increase the vale; And LTC is held by a lot of people (for reasons unknow to me, in the current market...)

The distinction I make is why they hold it. If they hold it because moon, then that is speculation. If they hold it because it is actually useful to spend (maybe not now, but perhaps next week or next month) that is adoption.


Then I think you overestimate the current speculation rate regarding btc probably as well as xmr.

XMR has three main problems, it was priced way too high in the beginning, it was started in a bear market and until now just run in a bear market additionally it has for an altcoin a bad risk/reward situation due to high inflation.

nevertheless it has the most unique feature in the entire cryptospehere - it combines neutrality, privacy and decentralisation and probably being the first mover here.

I will only sell my stash if I see a different and better way to achieve the three points. I thought a lot about this issue and I think it is not possible to achieve this uniqueness in a different way.
197  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: December 19, 2014, 06:00:28 PM
Very few people knew about BTC in 2011. A little bit more people knew about BTC in 2012. More people heard about BTC in 2013. By 2014, a lot more people heard about BTC since it was talked in the media more than before.
More people are progressively using BTC each year since starting with a ridiculous low amount of tech enthusiasts in 2010 or 20011.



Ignore difficulty decreasing! Ignore the fact that some miners are already underwater! Ignore price! Ignore problems with a currency using PoW!

From 0 people using BTC we went to a number a little bit higher each year!
The only conclusion? Bullish! To the moon! 10k before tomorrow!


My almost entire milieu is full of people that are studying or have finished their studies. none of them can explain you properly what bitcoin is - some have a vague idea.

they are in their mid/end 20s, excellently educated (most of them economists or mathematicians) and they live in one of the richest countries in the world. all of them are used to facebook dropbox, online banking etc. pp.

I assume that at best 1-3% of the developed world have a proper understanding of this stuff.

198  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2014, 03:25:38 PM
the most interesting thing that happened in the last days is that the gap between btc-e and the other exchanges closed.

lol even leading at this point of time.
199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 04:36:45 PM
well ripple would be the last token I would pump but anyway.


this market is gone full retard
200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 10:51:51 AM
we are getting closer Smiley

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