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181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has anyone that stole BTC have been caught, ever? on: July 23, 2014, 02:41:49 AM
Yes, I've seen stories about people getting their money back after a hacker has taken it back for them and there are people here who specialise in that kind of thing if you give them a share of the loot, the problem is the media either don't know anything about it because they're stupid or the hackers that go after these big heists know how to cover their tracks.

"The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable." - Sun Tzu

Do you have a source for such story?

Sure, I'll need to dig around though but I remember seeing it on Bitcointalk awhile back I think there's a guy that specialises in that sort of thing here somewhere,

A lot of these things have gone on in the Scam Accusations sub-forum. May need to do some digging, but there are some gems of a story in there; including some who dox/investigate thieves.

In full disclosure, a "guilty pleasure" of mine when things were quieter was looking at all of the drama that happened there, along with a bunch of the results.

Whoa that's some 'Schadenfreude' you got there  Grin Not good for you Karma. But yeah man, the things over there are unbelievable! Hundreds of BTC lost or scammed!!!
Has anything ever happened to the Bitfunder/Ukyo thing?

Sorry, it's actually not in a joy at misery kind of way. It's more in a morbid fascination sort of way. It's the gall that some people have that captures my attention more than anything.
182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has anyone that stole BTC have been caught, ever? on: July 22, 2014, 10:52:54 PM
Yes, I've seen stories about people getting their money back after a hacker has taken it back for them and there are people here who specialise in that kind of thing if you give them a share of the loot, the problem is the media either don't know anything about it because they're stupid or the hackers that go after these big heists know how to cover their tracks.

"The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable." - Sun Tzu

Do you have a source for such story?

Sure, I'll need to dig around though but I remember seeing it on Bitcointalk awhile back I think there's a guy that specialises in that sort of thing here somewhere,

A lot of these things have gone on in the Scam Accusations sub-forum. May need to do some digging, but there are some gems of a story in there; including some who dox/investigate thieves.

In full disclosure, a "guilty pleasure" of mine when things were quieter was looking at all of the drama that happened there, along with a bunch of the results.
183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How big do you think the Crypto bubble will get? Compared to internet bubble? on: July 22, 2014, 06:06:40 PM
Only time will tell I guess but Bitcoin has a big expectation by a lot of people and I'm not quite sure that it will live up to those expectations. but like I said only time will tell.

Only here does it seem like that.. Most people think BTC is a made up valueless peice of something they don't understand that hackers will "print" billions into existance of.

I think 1 mBTC will be worth 1 million during the peak of the bubble... Things will be bad.

I'm assuming you are speaking in terms of BTC/USD. If so, then $1B per BTC would be pretty damn crazy.

I mean, this implies that the overall market cap would be $21 quadrillion. Not even the entire world's M3 supply comes remotely close to just $1 quadrillion. So, we'd be in insane hysteria land at that point. Not sure if that's a good thing, but at this point in time, it doesn't.
184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Books on Bitcoin on: July 22, 2014, 03:27:16 PM
Social networks are several degrees of magnitude bigger than bitcoin, though. I wonder how much academic research there actually is when it comes to Bitcoin. Social networks are an interesting thing when it comes to psychology as well!

Very true that social networks are significantly larger and in vastly more use. But there has been quite a number of studies involving bitcoin in academia already too (just dig through the pressers in the sub-forums). I remember a psychological study based on the whole pirateat40 ponzi scheme, and I've seen multiple economic analyses of bitcoins in relation to economies and financial markets. Plus there is the whole Austrian school of economics ideals versus capitalistic systems or free market ideals.

There are a lot of things that have been found and that could be expounded on in regards to bitcoin. The trick is having someone hunker down and write it all in a polished format.
185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Books on Bitcoin on: July 22, 2014, 02:38:02 PM
BTC is too young to have High Quality books as there are no real experts with long time expirience in it, as..well...BTC itself is not around long enough.
And yes...remotemass  is correct....coders will always saY: "Best book about bitcoin you can get is source code itself", and yes, i agree there is need for something like that.
There is a document that goes that path here: https://github.com/minium/Bitcoin-Spec

People often need multiple years to write a good book. Even if someone started a book on bitcoin back in 2009 when the paper was released, they would've maybe just finished the first chapter.
Donald Knuth hasn't even finished his series! Heck, he even invented a typesetting system (everyone uses nowadays) in order to write that book!

I agree and yet disagree with the idea that there are any experts in the realm of bitcoin.

From the technical side, the amount of expertise that has been put into the protocol (whether through contribution/development or vetting) is quite significant. The same can also be said about bitcoin from a market perspective with major investment firms studying bitcoin and its market.

At the same time, I do understand the argument that bitcoin hasn't been around long enough to make quality content, but the same could be said about social networking and yet there was a plethora of content created during its early years.
186  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 5 Bitcoin Trends That Have Emerged in 2014 on: July 22, 2014, 02:29:16 PM
I have a few critiques regarding this article.

I don't think merchant adoption will hit 100k businesses by December 2014; the plateauing tail at the end of the graph says otherwise to me, but at least 60-70k seems reasonable to me. And I would like to see the investment trend stacked up against the pre-".com" bubble (i.e. 1997-1998) rather than 1995; in my eyes, bitcoin is not in its infancy anymore so it needs a more comparable fit to get a stronger feel for "historical" baseline growth.

Nonetheless, I agree with the general spirit of this article; the future for bitcoin is much brighter (in a not-so-crazy fervor sort of way) than it has ever been.
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dell.com now accepts bitcoin! on: July 18, 2014, 10:47:02 PM
How many of you still use Dell Computers?   I have them for my company, but I stopped using Dell computers a long time ago.  They were always pretty reliable, but never to aesthetically pleasing (I know that shouldn't matter all that much in a laptop selection).  

In terms of Ultra Books at least, I feel like Acer and Asus (for PC) have far surpassed them, but Dell still has the big-time name recognition that will help with bringing BTC to the mainstream.


Maybe Apple will follow suit?   haha jk

You're actually right that Dell is no longer as prevalent in the home computing scene; that's the primary detractor of this story (if there really is one). I wonder if they would transfer the usage of bitcoins over to their commercial sector (where most of their portfolio is currently located). That'd actually be quite an interesting development.
188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dell.com now accepts bitcoin! on: July 18, 2014, 10:06:34 PM
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first Fortune 100 company to accept transactions in bitcoin isn't it? Next stop, top 50! Anyone thinks this has any impact on possible retail acceptance?

By the way, can someone clarify if we're able to buy stuff from Dell's subsidiaries in BTC?
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto-trade stole my money!!! on: July 18, 2014, 03:45:19 PM
Seriously, you can't remember the answer to your security question and you expect them to hand you over the keys to some funds? If you can't prove that you own the account, why should they give you access to that account? For all they know you could just be trying to break in to someone else's account.

If anything, it is disappointing to see them give you a hint to the security question (unless it is something you would have usually seen).

No one stole anything; nothing to see here.
190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin summary & forecast from someone that never lost a cent trading altcoins on: July 17, 2014, 10:58:46 PM
I do agree with needing a catalyst, but I think his thoughts on a catalyst along with his assumptions on development is flawed. Developments in infrastructure is just as beneficial (if not more so) than updates to underlying code.

I actually thing the whole media explosion as being the primary catalyst is somewhat of a farce. To me, mainstream media attention actually comes more toward the end of the upswing. But it does provide the useful addition of allowing the "prop" to stay there longer (assuming that the growth is unsustainable).
191  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Begining of the END for BTC. Bitcoin is becoming ultra regulated currency on: July 17, 2014, 10:49:55 PM
It's definitely a fine line between sticking to the core values and gaining some sort of legal footing (i.e. draconian legitimacy). I don't necessarily think we've crossed that line since this is only dealing with processors and exchangers (the way I interpret it, it doesn't affect "bartering" with bitcoins); however, with a few tweaks we'll be perilously close to that line and could very easily cross it.
192  Economy / Speculation / Re: [POLL] When will Bitcoin touch $1000 again? on: July 17, 2014, 06:23:42 PM
Like most people here, I also think that BTC will hit $1000 within the next three months. But frankly, the more important question is whether the price will be sustained and if not, for how long will it be?

Do we really want more rallies with crashes? Is that really good long-term?
193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Help petition the Red Cross to accept BTC on: July 17, 2014, 06:13:04 PM
Although it is a worthy endeavor to have a charity accept bitcoins, the Red Cross isn't one of those charities. There are many more worthwhile charities to be focused on. Maybe this idea should be expanded to something along those lines?
Name one.
Convoy of Hope. There one.

But here are a few others: Direct Relief, Young Life, Samaritan's Purse

Don't get me wrong, Red Cross is a very solid charity (although financials tend to hover around the second quartile rather than the top quartile). When I say worthwhile, it's more implying that there are charities that would benefit much more from an organized transactor gateway in bitcoin.

I feel that setting up the Red Cross for this would lose some of its worth because of the size of the red cross. Focusing on smaller gateways that can serve multiple charities would be significantly stronger in my opinion.
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS █ █ LAUNCHED █ █ 4 DAYS til POS on: July 17, 2014, 05:55:45 PM
There was a somwhat solid plan, but I think the duration and amounts of both the ICO and PoW phases worked to the detriment of this coin. We'll see where this goes though.

There could be more life, but it's hard to see it with the coin already dropping over 80% of its ICO price. Was that because the coin was overvalued or is it the market just being honest? In either case, it was a novel approach using the NIST5 algorithm.

It was because POW lasted a week and miners were bound to dump their newly acquired 5,000,000 coins. I expect the price to rebound somewhat after POW and dumpers are exhausted. The dev could help too by buying back some of 800k he sold at 0.0008
Frankly, I'm trying to find the incentive for the dev to buy back coins or anything. If someone just netted $60k for doing a few weeks of work at the most, I can't really see the incentive of throwing it back.

Sure it'd be nice, but does anyone think that the dev feels it'd be worthwhile to use the acquired funds to the 0.00008 mark? [As a note, your post is missing one 0.]
195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some nights I think about this, and I just wanna cry. (How i missed the bus) on: July 17, 2014, 04:49:02 PM
Doesn't matter. In the future All you will need is like 10 bitcoins to have a cool million bucks. Are you content with a million? Im hoping I can get at-least 20 BTC by the time mainstream adoption takes off.

My personal target is to try to get to holding 1 millionth of the total of all mined bitcoins. With 13 million already out there I'm very far short of holding 13 so far. Sad
Heck, at least you have a goal in mind. That's better than a lot of others out there. Especially at the point when bitcoin becomes the de facto transactor. 1 millionth of any major currency is definitely a substantial amount of money.
196  Economy / Speculation / Re: A big crash is coming on: July 17, 2014, 03:10:17 PM
I can definitely tell that there is a significant amount of impatience; but I think there is enough funds the other way around to either prevent or capitalize on a severe downturn. I know that a lot of this impatience comes from people buying indeterminately discrete sets of bitcoins (i.e. one full coin at a time). So unlike the past rallies, a 50% loss this time around yields losses of hundreds rather than tens of dollars (compounded the amount of discrete sets).

Let's be honest though, we really shouldn't be expecting rallies every 6-8 months like the last two run-ups. That sort of time frame is just unsustainable.
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS █ █ LAUNCHED █ █ 4 DAYS til POS on: July 17, 2014, 02:47:03 PM
There was a somwhat solid plan, but I think the duration and amounts of both the ICO and PoW phases worked to the detriment of this coin. We'll see where this goes though.

There could be more life, but it's hard to see it with the coin already dropping over 80% of its ICO price. Was that because the coin was overvalued or is it the market just being honest? In either case, it was a novel approach using the NIST5 algorithm.
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Coins on: July 17, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
im new to the game and im just looking for a little help on what to look for as far as investing in new/any coins. thanks for the help Grin
Someone mentioned doing your due diligence and looking for coins with both an active dev and an active community. Those are sound pieces of advice. Also coins that have been around longer tend to have more stability (although a chunk of the time it has a link to a direct market trend, usually downward).

Here is one piece of advice though: just like any game, there are gonna be winners and losers. Be prepared to take losses at times, and be careful to not get burned too badly.
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 99,9% ARE SHITCOINS - so don't waste your time or money on: July 17, 2014, 02:31:29 PM
I think that having so many alt coins may make it difficult to discover the actual good ones for someone that is new and just started with this.
Of course there are ranking websites that can help but so many pump and dumps...

Sure there may be sites that arbitrarily provide that information. But honestly, it doesn't help all too much since someone could just make a coin that avoids the negative points and still manage to be a pump and dump. If there is a bright side to all of this, is that it forces people to do their due diligence when learning about this scene.

99.9% is great coins. syscoin to the moon
Uh...Fascinating?

Go keep on working on making that dream to the moon happen. I'll be watching from the sidelines. Actually, to be honest, I'll be pretty far from the sidelines, but you get what I mean.
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NobleCoin[NOBL] - *GOING PoS*NOBL/$USD*MARKETPLACE*52 CHARITIES/MERCHANTS* on: July 17, 2014, 02:27:48 PM
The volume has dropped again on Bittrex here - from 40+ BTC the other day, to less than 1 BTC now.....

Always amazes me how the market jumps up and down for no real reason.

Watching a lot of sells take place on Mintpal too - it's finally getting some action there, but pretty much all selling out.
You shouldn't really be all too surprised with sudden market actions in the scene. And let's be honest, it's not happening for "no real reason." There's always a catalyst that initiates action. And there is always a catalyst that causes the action to stay around for bursts of time.

Anyhow, it's been a bit more quiet around here but it looks like a good amount of work is happening behind the scenes. I'm intrigued to see how this transition  goes.
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