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1801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to create bitcoin current account in 7 easy steps. on: June 17, 2011, 10:05:58 AM
got it, thanks.
1802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to create bitcoin current account in 7 easy steps. on: June 17, 2011, 09:56:26 AM
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It's not that easy, since the first step is "Get yourself a low cost netbook". If everyone have to purchase another netbook for the safty of bitcoin, which is only 2 years old and not that much product to buy……

I suggest Gavin's team to build encrypt and back-up solution into the next release ASAP!


Ask the guy who lost half a mil if 200$ was too much to secure his wallet.

Gavin, please implement wallet encryption ASAP so that we can enjoy false sense of security while running bitcoin client on malware infested windows computers.

1803  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trojan Wallet stealer be careful on: June 17, 2011, 09:48:55 AM
Bitcoin developers, please, please, please do create encrypted wallet functionality, so that I can run bitcoin on my malware infested windows computer while enjoying false sense of security.

1804  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to create bitcoin current account in 7 easy steps. on: June 17, 2011, 09:39:06 AM
With FreeBSD it is really trivial if you do not attempt to install the whole X shebang.

1. Install minimal FreeBSD. # plenty of guides everywhere
2. cd /usr/ports/*/bitcoin ; make install clean # (select without X in config)
3. Bingo!

The trick here is to abandon GUI and just do CLI.

1805  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to create bitcoin current account in 7 easy steps. on: June 17, 2011, 09:26:53 AM
What would be the disadvantage of using something like ubuntu? Honestly, it's the only linux distro I've used, so I'm comfortable with it. Though if something like archlinux is that much safer, I should probably read up on it. What's the learning curve on archlinux compared to Ubuntu?

It's more a personal opinion of mine. I for some reason think that ubuntu is a bloatware with so much stuff installed by default that running it without a deny all firewall seems to be unfathomable for some, apparently.

If I do not know or at least have some pretty good idea what every single package is doing on an OS I do not feel conformable running it.

The only OS'es I am comfortable with using the above approach are FreeBSD and Archlinux and I am prepared to give OpenBSD benefit of the doubt.

But it is just me.
1806  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trojan Wallet stealer be careful on: June 17, 2011, 09:19:18 AM
like i said, i am sure i am the exception.

i work in the IT business, and i am aware of how uncommon this is, which is why i said i am the exception. i am not boasting here, i am not trying to enlarge my "epeen". it is mere fact.

Do not worry m8, even if you are an exception, you are not the only one.
1807  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to create bitcoin current account in 7 easy steps. on: June 17, 2011, 09:09:53 AM
There's a big difference between not listening on any port by default and having a default deny firewall, which you have to setup manually on those distros.

If you leave it without a firewall you'll leave port 8332 open, potentially leaving yourself open to having your wallet stolen.



Error: Invalid user, replace and press any key.

Yep, ok, for those receiving the above error, messing with iptables or ipfw or whatever do they use on OpenBSD for firewall these days, is essential, and I will follow up with a detailed guide on how to configure all of those in the next 5 minutes.

Sorry that my risk assessment is different than yours. But as I said your mileage may vary.

Of course, not everyone is on secure network at all times.
1808  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trojan Wallet stealer be careful on: June 17, 2011, 08:58:32 AM
newunit16, lol.

Yep.

- Doctor, what shall I do to avoid AIDS?
- Drink milk.
- Before or after...?
- Instead of.
1809  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to create bitcoin current account in 7 easy steps. on: June 17, 2011, 08:56:16 AM
One thing you forgot: configure iptables to block all ports except 8333

I did not actually. If you have installed a 'nonbloated' OS like archlinux, freebsd or openbsd as advised it does not listen on any port by default.

With bloatuntu and others your mileage may vary, though.

But yea, your tip might be useful for some.
1810  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / How to create bitcoin current account in 7 easy steps. on: June 17, 2011, 08:29:56 AM
1. Get yourself a low cost netbook.
2. Install not bloated linux (like archlinux) or FreeBSD or OpenBSD (in order of growing paranoia).
   - make sure that the above is done with ecrypted partitions and swap (plenty of guides on the net).
   - make sure that the above is done while offline as much as possible (for truly paranoid ones).
   - make sure that you do not not even configure wireless hardware, let alone using it
   - physically plug in Ethernet cable when you need connectivity for a minute or so
3. Install bitcoin client, generate a bunch of bitcoin addresses (current account)
4. Over time, transfer in small amounts (i.e not all of it in one go) your funds from your existing client to the addresses created in step 3
5. Keep this used exclusively as bitcoin client and nothing else, plug in Ethernet cable when you need to transfer money.
6. Keep this hardware wallet safe.
7. Creating a bitcoin savings account and making secure backups is still need to be done as described in multiply guides elsewhere.

P.S. Do not forget your passwords.


EDIT: your mileage may vary


BombaUcigasa made a very reasonable suggestion:

2. Install not bloated linux (like archlinux) or FreeBSD or OpenBSD (in order of growing paranoia).
Preferably change this rule to:

2. Install pre-2009 not bloated linux (like archlinux) or FreeBSD or OpenBSD (in order of growing paranoia) - don't install updates.

This to make sure that you use code generated before bitcoin existed, and as such there is no local vulnerability and never will be since you don't update it. (remote access vulnerabilities still present).

Considering that at most, as far as remote accessible services are concerned, you are only occasionally running sshd and I do not recall it having any fatal remotely exploitable bugs after 2008, this will do. You would have to compile bitcoin yourself, and this may cause problems due to out of date libs, though. I did not try it, yet.
1811  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trojan Wallet stealer be careful on: June 17, 2011, 08:22:30 AM
If you have more than 1000 Bitcoins in your wallet:

1. get yourself a low cost netbook.
2. Install not bloated linux (like archlinux) or FreeBSD or OpenBSD (in order of growing paranoia).
   - make sure that the above is done with ecrypted partitions and swap (plenty of guides on the net).
   - make sure that the above is done while offline as much as possible (for truly paranoid ones).
   - make sure that you do not not even configure wireless hardware, let alone using it
   - physically plug in Ethernet cable when you need connectivity for a minute or so
3. Install bitcoin client, generate a bunch of bitcoin addresses (current account)
4. Over time transfer in small amounts your funds from your existing client to the addresses created in step 3
5. Keep this used exclusively as bitcoin client and nothing else, plug in Ethernet cable when you need to transfer money.
6. Keep this hardware wallet safe.
7. Creating a bitcoin savings account and making secure backups is still need to be done as described in multiply guides elsewhere.

P.S. Do not forget your passwords.




1812  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: selling mining contracts 440£ per Ghps per Month on: June 16, 2011, 11:51:18 PM
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1813  Other / Obsolete (buying) / Re: Buying Mining Contracts on: June 16, 2011, 10:07:44 PM
I like the PM's  (close to 10) BUT ALL have been contracts which are too high in price...thus  becoming not profitable in the rising difficulty and only seem to secure the miners rig...

You did not expect someone to provide you a  service at loss for himself, did you?
1814  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: [Selling] Delta Fan 120mm 148CFM w/ 3 pin to 4 pin molex + fan screws on: June 16, 2011, 10:00:55 PM
Bump!




My funs are bigger than yours!
1815  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: June 16, 2011, 09:49:26 PM
Another piece of my mining rig is about to be mounted



5870 is for size reference here.
1816  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: selling mining contracts 440£ per Ghps per Month on: June 16, 2011, 09:43:29 PM
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1817  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Call for investors. Let's build a huge bitcoin mining DC together. on: June 16, 2011, 09:42:28 PM
a photo from DC3, taken a few minutes ago.

There are funs and there are FUNS!



5870 is for size reference here


Launch on Monday.
1818  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: selling mining contracts 440£ per Ghps per Month on: June 16, 2011, 03:01:58 PM
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1819  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: selling mining contracts 440£ per Ghps per Month on: June 16, 2011, 02:50:55 PM
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1820  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Conference 2011 NYC on: June 14, 2011, 09:26:51 PM
Interesting. I'll try to get there too.
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