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1801  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY btc.com Bitcoinist. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 28, 2015, 03:41:35 AM
Do we think bitcoinist goes down as the last people scammed or is there another act to come?

really surprised he went through the trouble of "launching" btc.com without having another bullet in the chamber, unless scamming bitcoinist was the last bullet.
1802  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website | Starting from 1 GHs @ 0.0008 BTC | Since November 2014 on: May 28, 2015, 02:53:40 AM
Weekly mining payment has been sent out as usual...

https://blockchain.info/tx/b55a250957a91e70e4bd50977166f60007c522a8c83f51ff630f6c19679ecf38

We started our journey on November 1, 2014. We are close complete seven months of payment. Payment History: www.cloudmining.website/payments.php

That means you have successfully fulfilled exactly 0 contracts so far. Congratulations I guess.

That means you are not aware of the fact that even third party cloud mining monitors are reporting ROI with CMW - www.cmmonitor.com/24-cloudmining-website.html

Wow, in 200 days he earned .002053 btc, or 48 cents at today's prices. Quick, everyone give them all your money, we'll be rich in no time.
1803  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY btc.com Bitcoinist. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 28, 2015, 12:12:15 AM

I haven't been paying 100% attention to badbitcoin, but I do remember it being ok a few years ago. Is it out of the question that gaw bought the twitter/site like he did to other places/tried to do so many times before?
1804  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY btc.com Bitcoinist. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 27, 2015, 12:35:18 PM
And another company shoots themselves in the foot by getting involved with Garza.

why on earth would they think Garza wasn't going to fuck them over after their previous attempt and everyone else he's fucked over?

I sort of wish I was a big enough asshole to take some of the money these geniuses are just giving away, it's amazing.

Which idea is stupider? Getting in bed with Garza, or getting inspiration from licensing one of the industry's (not industries bitcoinist, maybe spend the money you aren't giving Garza on a copy editor?) "most expensive domains."
1805  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Best place to cloud mine? on: May 27, 2015, 12:05:40 PM
I will have a budget of 220 bucks.Where is the best place to mine and is available.What will be my roi?
CloudMining.website is known to provide ROI quick. Here is what a third party review site reported...



Source: www.cmmonitor.com/24-cloudmining-website.html

They are paying consistently for seven months now: www.cloudmining.website/payments.php

And a question,Ive heard about an S6 antminer coming up real soon but is there any conformation about that?

Probably you can wait for the 21 chip, if you are really interested in hardware mining. This will probably be a paradigm shift in the mining world. An ongoing discussion regarding this can be found here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1070450.0

Please actually look at the math before you use that monitor site as evidence to dump a lot of money into an "investment."  They invested a happy meal and have made a tiny btc profit, that is worth less USD than when they started.
1806  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cloudmining.website New puppy in cloud mining on: May 26, 2015, 12:58:42 PM
Yesterday's puppy has become today's giant. And inspite of all the bashing and slandering, it has paid again...

https://blockchain.info/tx/f6ceff5fe3c1307e15a4e09d9566fda66e7b1d74ada9d93bd91d0abaaebbb438  Roll Eyes


We aren't saying they aren't paying, we are questioning if they are actually mining. It's very easy for them to pay out the coins you gave them over time.
1807  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MinerLoft on: May 25, 2015, 11:01:35 PM
They obviously aren't mining.

It's hard enough to make any sort of profit mining, that they would be able to give out that much bonus hashrate is unbelievable. If you think you can find enough suckers to follow you to make money that way, go for it, but there aren't going to be that many suckers in the world.

Pyramid schemes that have actual products aren't the worst thing in the world, but it's pretty obvious that there is no product here, so it will not last.
1808  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [GAW/Paycoin] The Shill Shitpost Thread on: May 21, 2015, 02:23:34 PM
What is going through his head to keep up the association with GAW?

The millions of offshoots show that people are finally smart enough to stop blowing money on GAW/Josh, so why add that "picking up where GAW left off" line?

Is he stupid enough to think the shills still posting are true believers and not just bagholders trying desperately to hand off their bags of shit?

Is he just super narcissistic and thinks that this card will expunge the failures of GAW and make people forgive/forget follow to the next scheme?

I really don't get why he doesn't just disappear and try to make it so it isn't obvious to everyone that his next scam is connected to him and all the others.
1809  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY btc.com Bitcoinist. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 20, 2015, 01:36:19 PM
Just to review the situation concerning Cryptsy, did they simply stop talking about their Prime Controller in the end?

IIRC it was pointed out to them that operating a Prime Controller did nothing to 'support the network', as they claimed, any more than an ordinary staking wallet would do, but did they get to duck out of the conversation after that point?

That's pretty much the size of it. They do still have it filled and sitting there though, so the moment it synchs with the network it will make some insanely big stakes. It is this one here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?318353.htm Currently #47 on the Rich List. I have not seen any mention on HT of the fact that the Paycoin Blockchain is working just fine with most of the PC's currently offline. I know some over there in La La Land still think they do something other than shit out crazy amounts of XPY, so it would possibly be an eye opener to those idiots to see that PCs are really nothing more than wallets that get a special Hyperstake, rather than the regular muggle stake.

That's the most amazing thing about this entire shitshow.

People are running around making all these plans and talking as if prime controllers are more than special wallets and hashlets are/were more than images and that hashtakers are physical products.
1810  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MiningSweden Pictures, Videos and Banners on: May 20, 2015, 01:27:21 PM
Why do they need help selling?

How can payouts start an hour after I purchse if they don't have all the hardware? Seems like something that would apply to a ponzi, not a legitimate mining operation.

Maybe they need to manually activate your account or what's more likely their software calculate the profit once per hour and update the client accounts.


That's definitely what's happening and that doesn't seem like a legitimate mining operation to me. If they are using customer money to buy hardware, they can't pay in an hour because they don't have hardware. If they are using hardware they already own, how do they earn (and therefore payout) so consistently?
1811  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MiningSweden Pictures, Videos and Banners on: May 20, 2015, 11:52:23 AM
Why do they need help selling?

How can payouts start an hour after I purchse if they don't have all the hardware? Seems like something that would apply to a ponzi, not a legitimate mining operation.
1812  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MiningSweden Pictures, Videos and Banners on: May 19, 2015, 09:37:10 PM
VIP shares sounds an awufl like a security to me, will you run into any issues with that?

do you already have 1 PH? Are we buying shares of that or shares of stuff you will be ordering to increase the farm?

What is there an official reseller when there is no actual product being shipped?

First question is forwarded to Tommy @miningsweden.
At this moment miningsweden has not 1PH, Tommy is ordering to increase the farm.
Reseller need a product shipped?

Assistance with shipping is one of the only reasons i can think of to need a reseller. i cannot come up with one for a situation like this.

How does the reseller operation benefit the three parties involved (me, them, you)? Why would I buy from you when I can buy from them? What do they get from letting you resell "shares?" Margins in mining are very thin (if they exist at all), how is there enough for all 3 of us to benefit?

If I buy a share is it a share of currently owned hardware or do I need to wait for it to be bought/shipped before I start earning?
1813  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MiningSweden Pictures, Videos and Banners on: May 19, 2015, 05:55:24 PM
VIP shares sounds an awufl like a security to me, will you run into any issues with that?

do you already have 1 PH? Are we buying shares of that or shares of stuff you will be ordering to increase the farm?

What is there an official reseller when there is no actual product being shipped?
1814  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY btc.com Bitcoinist. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 18, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
So, MrCEO hasn't posted on hashtalk for nearly 4 days straight. This seems suspiciously quiet for him. Where is he? Any ideas? Could he finally have done a runner?

Finally realized that no one is going to follow him off the next cliff so he's backing off so that they next "completely unrelated" business he starts up has a tiny chance to be believed.
1815  Economy / Gambling / Re: Can anyone make a sportsbook with 1% house edge? on: May 18, 2015, 01:40:59 PM
Why do this when people pay around 5% on most games and way way more on future bets and stuff like that?

People can earn money in long term although house edge is high, sport betting is predictable because strong teams have more probabilities to win.

Dice, blackjack, bacarat is random and not predictable, so the risk is high, although the house edge is much lower than sport betting.

And history stats can be used in analysis, it helps to win the money.

More reason to not run this sportsbook with the 1% house edge. the only people this will attract are people you probably don't want to be betting against.

People are willing to play with a 5% or higher edge in sports, why offer less?
1816  Economy / Gambling / Re: Can anyone make a sportsbook with 1% house edge? on: May 18, 2015, 01:17:04 PM
Why do this when people pay around 5% on most games and way way more on future bets and stuff like that?
1817  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 18, 2015, 01:26:01 AM
Are you buying a share of the miners they have already? Or paying for the next set of miners they are going to buy? will the "team of highly experienced traders and will be performing market trades to boost profits for those who own “VIP shares (TM).”" run afoul of any securities laws? Why is the guy saying "they are" and "these guys" the same person providing all the "proof" that they are legit on hashtalk?

Calm down Phildo.

I was just trying to help answer the question that someone asked about if Mining Sweden was a scam, so I just went and posted links.

When I wrote "These guys", I mean Mining Sweden as a company and "they are" is because I have had a contract with them since they started operating and been getting regular payouts and seeing the progress they are making and as far as I can see, they are very open as said. I mean why would they want to invite people for a BBQ and show them around their farm in Northern Sweden for a start. I am hoping the BBQ food will be cooked on the mining rigs lol....

Ian

I'm perfectly calm because I ask a million questions before entering into business arrangements where people will give me free money for no reason.

I can't help but notice that you didn't actually answer any of my questions, so let's try again, because a BBQ doesn't impress me much.

If I buy shares today, is that for a piece of current hardware or future hardware?

Will the things they say they are going to do for VIP shareholders run afoul of regulators in the US (where I am) or anywhere else?

are they paying you with freshly mined coins?

Why do they need a reseller when they aren't actually shipping anything?

1818  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 17, 2015, 03:19:57 PM
The reseller thing is a good point. Why does someone need to resell shares/virtual miners?

It makes sense for a reseller for actual products. Manufacturer in location x doesn't want to deal with customs/hassle of shipping to a bunch of different customers, so they sell large shipments to a few resellers, and they distribute them to the individual customers. Why add a middleman when there is no physical product moving?
1819  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 17, 2015, 01:20:17 PM
Are you buying a share of the miners they have already? Or paying for the next set of miners they are going to buy? will the "team of highly experienced traders and will be performing market trades to boost profits for those who own “VIP shares (TM).”" run afoul of any securities laws? Why is the guy saying "they are" and "these guys" the same person providing all the "proof" that they are legit on hashtalk?
1820  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY btc.com Bitcoinist. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 17, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
Sometimes, I wonder if this GAW saga is still being orchestrated, and all this drama around back-stabbing, TeamXPY et al is just a diversion while the cogs keep turning to produce a far larger scam. I just can't get to trust any of the employee of GAW saga, ex or not.

An elaborate scam...

Why wouldn't you trust the guy that ran a data center that ran up a huge electric bill that never got paid and didn't send the coins to the users who were paying for the miners/maintenance fees?

Or the interim CEO of a company that had no business plan?

Or the guy running a lending website that makes zero sense?

These all seem like trustworthy individuals to me.
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