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1821  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
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But Monkeys don't give a shit as long as you promise them bananas.

After over a year of not getting any bananas, the monkeys would realize they're getting gypped.  Not Bitcoiners tho.
1822  Economy / Economics / Re: Dollar coming to an end on: January 10, 2015, 08:08:22 PM
The dollar isn't going anywhere as long as it's used to BUY BITCOIN!

Smart guy. When you buy bitcoin dollar with dollars bitcoins you stimulate bitcoin dollar and depress dollars bitcoins. Marginal, you can't measure it but it is there.

FTFY
1823  Economy / Speculation / Re: A quick calculation on Bitstamp's loss due to the hack in relation to their fees on: January 10, 2015, 06:30:09 PM
d) they had no operating expenses.

oda never said he was talking about profits, only revenue (all of which may be assumed to come from fees).

Strictly speaking yeah, guess I read too much into "...in the worst case they lost about 20 month's worth of fees in the hack, and in the best case, 3.5 months worth of fees."
I assumed he was implying that the "hack" could be covered by 3.5 to 20 months of operation (which is not the case if operating expenses & other expenditures occured).
1824  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 05:37:05 PM
Beartrolls:

deadhorse.gif

Bitcoin not ded!!1!
1825  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitstamp 18,000 bitcoins stolen? -confirmed on: January 10, 2015, 05:35:48 PM
OK, so after BitStamp was hacked, people have been posting posts over posts and threads over threads about it and even making scam accusations about the exchange. Some even called it the next Gox. But all of a sudden all threads have gone silent after the exchange came back online just fine, within a small time window.

No problem.

At least I would take this opportunity to actually give some postive feedback to BitStamp team who worked hard and delivered on my personal expectations after the hack. They made sure to keep the users informed of the progress via Twitter too. And they surely didn't "Gox". I have an account with them and thankfully I didn't lose anything because I had emptied my balance in September but in future I'm gonna trust them as good as I did previously - or even more than that, because I'm sure their security is now far better than what they had before. And they mean serious business.

They're here to stay and make Bitcoin ecosystem better.

Since you brought it up:
1.  The "small window" was a business week.
2.  No confirmed fiat withdrawals.
3.  No [previously promised] audits => fractional reserve possible.
4.  Re. "better security":  As long as you're sure.

TL;DR: Let's not start stroking them just yet.
1826  Economy / Speculation / Re: It would seem fallin was right.. on: January 10, 2015, 04:29:00 PM
...Hey, we were going down after a big bubble, it's no wonder we're going down. It was pretty easy for him to predict that.

No easier for him than for everyone who bought/held since the top.  Credit where credit's due.
1827  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
... Besides, localbitcoins is anonymous. Some people want to stay that way. Try buying anonymously from an exchange. Yeah; can't be done.

Bitcoin.  Where petty criminals come to breed.
1828  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 03:56:08 PM
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Cmon pl0x, admit it; you're in luv with bitcoin...

BitChick bought more Beanies Bitcoin yesterday @288.  I hope her hubby don't beat her...
1829  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 03:35:24 PM
... The will keep raping Bitcoin till it's dead.

And, perhaps, after.  Necrorape's a thing u know.

Nah pl0x, g1v sum m0ar d3t4ilz plz... Which part are you? the dead or the other? Grin

Your tears are delicious, Bitcoiner Smiley

1830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
... The will keep raping Bitcoin till it's dead.

And, perhaps, after.  Necrorape's a thing u know.
1831  Economy / Speculation / Re: A quick calculation on Bitstamp's loss due to the hack in relation to their fees on: January 10, 2015, 02:58:41 PM
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Note that the above is resting on a few more important assumptions:
a) 19k coins is indeed what they lost, not more, not less
b) they "cash out" fees, i.e. my calculation of using USD volume corresponds to how they run their business i.e. they don't store profits in coins (only)
c) they weren't insured against a hack (no idea if that's possible anyway).
d) they had no operating expenses.
1832  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 02:50:33 PM
^More text effects pl0x.
1833  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitstamp is open - now with multisig on: January 10, 2015, 02:32:18 PM
They had around 35k$ daily from fees so I think, that they wont have a problem with refunding people, who lost coins.

And since everyone will never withdraw all their coins at once, no one will ever miss those BTC.  Fractional reserve FTW!
1834  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 02:19:26 PM


How I wish we could take this moment and freeze it
To come back to again and again and again--
To hold it to the light
Now, turn it in our hands and study all the angles
To find out how and why it's gotta go the way that it goes
We have the technology not available before
We have the technology
Cry
1835  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Stamp the culprit? on: January 10, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
...the seigniorage will go somewhere.  It will go to miners (by definition, a miner is winning: a miner only mines if there is a margin to make) ...

No.  Miner buys a chunk of gear for $1k.  He will continue to mine as long as hosting costs (electricity, upkeep, etc.) are lower than the price of the coin mined.  Nothing suggests that the 1k initial investment will be recouped.
1836  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 02:00:56 PM
If Bitstamp is back with improved security and no one got Goxed, why are we going nowhere but down?

Because we were going down before stamp got "hacked."
1837  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 01:58:36 PM
And don't forget to run a shitload of redundant Server for Banks (+Computer for employees) worldwide. Roll Eyes

Lol, to provide the level of security Bitcoin exchanges provide, running an 8080 DOS box would suffice.  
1838  Economy / Speculation / Re: January 5th - Just bought 20 coins @ $277 on: January 10, 2015, 01:53:39 PM
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Goddamn, what is happening to me?

You're getting poorer by the minute while welshing on your bets.
1839  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 01:50:23 PM

Losing shitloads of money while some asshole burns more electricity than an aluminum smelter seems pretty tempting Roll Eyes
Adopting a free falling, slow as fuck, non scalable currency under hyperinflation that requires enormous amounts on energy to be wasted just in order to keep a ledger going!

Amazing what you can do with technology right?

No no you are right... lets spend money digging gold out of the ground instead.... and then you know... store it back underground in vaults.

Gold is becoming as obsolete as Bitcoin.  What's your point?
1840  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2015, 01:36:52 PM
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