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1581  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 10:38:23 PM
I don't think personal attacks on anyone here should be respected or allowed. Rpietila has done nothing wrong except being a bit extravagant sometimes and being a megabull on Bitcoin for the long term. This is who he is, and I think he is often hilarious and funny. Whether someone chooses to listen or believe him is up to them. I like to believe we are all adults who can form our own opinion about matters and we certainly don't need someone like Lambchop watching out for us and warn us. Also why are you meddling in the affairs of Bitchick and her husband? I'm sure they are very much capable of handling their financial matters and their relationship themselves. In any case it's none of your business and talking about it the way you do just shows how low of a man you really are. Disgusting. That's all I have to say about this.

If I was incorrect in my assertions of rpietila, please point out where & how.  There are no personal attacks in this thread, other than the one just typed up by you.
I'm free to state opinions, especially when those opinions are largely backed by facts.

If you are good with an institutionalizable lunatic predicting that BTC will be worth $300,000 by last Christmas (no, not a typo) and taking his financial advice, I'm not stopping you--go nuts.
I, on the other hand, feel that details like his mental condition & idiotic past behavior & grotesque prognostications are all relevant to evaluating his financial advice.  His motives [the fact that he sells BTC while telling others to hold] are also relevant.
Hence this post in the Speculation section.
1582  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 10:18:02 PM
.@Torque:
NotLambchop doesn't ask that those who disagree with him are banned, so there's that.
Now plz stay on topic or simply stop posting if you have nothing relevant to contribute.
ty.
1583  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 10:00:26 PM
Mods, please ban NotLambchop.  He has taken to deeply personal and uncalled for attacks now, and on this board it should not be tolerated.

I would also advise updating the sub forum rules about this.

Be kind enough to GTFO of my thread if you have nothing topical to contribute.
ty.
1584  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 09:57:06 PM
bitcoinwisdom.com under DDOS attack... This is obvious some big group (bank, goverment) attacking bitcoin, thatīs why the price keep digging.

LMAO. I doubt that they need to attack something sooo tiny small. If they wanted to, the only had to blow soft and bitcoin would be done.

Bitcoiners!!  Cheesy

It's that incredibly overblown sense of self-importance that's almost intrinsic to Bitcoiner brand of manic/paranoid mentality.

Sure, the 9/11 was a terrorist attack, just keep thinking that  Roll Eyes

And people think Bitcoiners are nutters Roll Eyes
1585  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 09:52:54 PM
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He now operates as a confidence man, and suckers in the economically illiterates into believing they're making a wise decisions to buy his bitcoin bags from him. Right down to the way that he uses a picture of himself as his avatar, in a suit and tie. And of course, like all con men, he can't respond to any criticism because he knows he's wrong, so instead he bans people from this threads and deletes any posts which don't look favorable to him. Unfortunately for him, some of us have a memory of more than +/- two days and can call him out on his bullshit.

That.
1586  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 09:51:22 PM
[snip]

Can we stick to the topic instead of going off on irrelevant tangents?  Suffice it to say that your Pied Piper was institutionalized for stark raving lunacy.
I don't want to start a 9/11 discussion here, those are over a decade old.  There are other places on the web to chat about that.
This thread is about a dangerous lunatic pretending to be a financial advisor & getting rubes to buy the coins he himself sells.
ty.
1587  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 09:40:06 PM
bitcoinwisdom.com under DDOS attack... This is obvious some big group (bank, goverment) attacking bitcoin, thatīs why the price keep digging.

LMAO. I doubt that they need to attack something sooo tiny small. If they wanted to, the only had to blow soft and bitcoin would be done.

Bitcoiners!!  Cheesy

It's that incredibly overblown sense of self-importance that's almost intrinsic to Bitcoiner brand of manic/paranoid mentality.
1588  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
Don't forget he's also a September 11 "troother". There was another thread a few months ago where he shared some of his batshit crazy theories.

So to anyone who follows risto.. ask yourselves... "Should I be taking financial advise from a 9/11 troother was was admitted to a mental institution against his own will? If I told my spouse or friends about this, would they approve?" I'm guessing the answer is... NO.

Wow, those things are so related! Pro ad hominem!

This guy is a textbook paranoiac, that's why it's related.  He thinks the world is conspiring to block his shine, claiming that "Already in 2008 I was so dangerous that an armed team of 8 guys was sent to my home at daybreak."

 It's not his character but the sorry state of what once was his mind that's being discussed.  And why people like him *are* a danger to others.
1589  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
What's funny is I can't make up a story any more ludicrous than his reality.
Imagine getting dragged off to a mental hospital after belligerently accusing the owners and staff of a luxury hotel of theft?  You know what the theft was?  An unsecured MacBook left by him in a sauna where he was entertaining his friends, the other "Supernodes."  Batshit crazy.  Paranoia, delusions of persecution, delusions of grandeur, full-blown mania--it's in there.
And people LISTEN TO HIM.

That poor BitChick woman is probably going to get divorced from [or worse, beaten by] her husband if she doesn't stop.  Crazyness.
1590  Economy / Speculation / rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 09:16:21 PM
TL;DR:
This d00d here after an involantary committment to a mental hospital, keeps a self-moderated thread where he doles out financial advice grooms and exploits vulnerable, economically naive victims1 and convinces them to hold the BTC which he himself accnowledges cashing out from.
Since the thread is self-moderated and I was asked not to post in it, I'm starting this one--without self-moderation, where I might reply.


1. An evangelising Christian woman currently experiencing family tensions due to re-buying BTC that her husband has sold.
BitChick now:

Bitcoiners want to get billionaires quick with their little scheme, call noobs that are trying to get out of the mess late "greedy".

It is no secret that I sold some at $675 in 2013. The next exit zone starts earliest at $3,000, probably higher.

It is no greed to sell at a bottom, it is just stupid. Stuff is as valuable as a year ago (or more, due to more adoption, etc.), yet 75% cheaper. This is a game and you are offered 4 times better odds than last time when you took them. Instead of taking them now, or holding, you decide to fold.

If anyone becomes a billionaire with bitcoin, he deserves it. So many chances of folding were offered but he held on.

There is voice of reason in the midst of so much babbling nonsense.  Thanks Risto.  Smiley  

I am having to argue a bit with BitchicksHusband a little about not folding right now though.   I guess it is hard not to get emotional.  We did have to sell some of our holdings in December but bought back a little last week.  I think the hardest thing to wrap my brain around is the fact that BTC should be so much more valuable with all of the infrastructure that has been put into place during 2014.  Why hasn't some of the money used to build this infrastructure been used to boost the price up a bit?  Aren't these companies at all concerned about BTC users getting disillusioned and leaving BTC completely?  

The extent of batshit craziness:

Simply pointing out that you are taking financial advice from a man recently released from a mental institution Smiley

Yes, and guess what? There is no law that compels me to mention it. I do it voluntarily, for my reasons. After going through this, and many other experiences, I know some things about how the world operates. People are able to learn it from my writings, but you can never learn very much if it is not verified by experience.

My dealings with the government started in 2005, by my reading of some conspiracist literature, which seemed to be alarmingly truthful when I compared it to the things I saw happening in the world. Already in 2008 I was so dangerous that an armed team of 8 guys was sent to my home at daybreak. Then came seizures and many court cases. Many perceive that Finland is a lawful country, with lawbreakers punished and law also granting rights to people. Well, miles of laws we have here, but if they are not expedient for the situation at hand, they can be broken by judges. I lost the recognition towards the judicial system after they too many times mistreated me, even against their own laws.

If I believed in my rights, I could have the hospitalization order re-examined, since the law requires me to be "dangerous to myself or others" for such procedure to take effect. Everyone knows that I have never hit another person, nor had a thought or word of hurting myself for over a decade. The only thing I am dangerous against, is the banking cartel. But I already know from experience that the judicial system is capable of straight-faced delivery of any verdict. So raising these matters in court does not help. Raising them here makes fools cry out: "look the guy's just come out from a nuthouse", but it's not the fools for whom I write, it is the wise - the people who understand things, and are here for learning, and contributing themselves.

If something in the above disqualifies me from being read, there's the "Ignore" button for that. Thank you.

In turn, I feel it a chore that your messages need to be "open"ed first before deletion, so please don't post. Thank you.
1591  Economy / Speculation / Re: January 5th - Just bought 20 coins @ $277 on: January 14, 2015, 08:00:18 PM
20@$277?  So that's what, less than 2k down in 9 days?  Meh.
1592  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 06:21:15 PM
...
And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons.

Jesus did not approve of the banks and the fees they charged the people.

Boldface.  That's who he disapproved of.  That's everyone here Smiley

Satoshi has not forsaken you, my children!
Don't let them do this to you, leave this veil of tears with dignity!

1593  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: January 14, 2015, 05:56:58 PM
English is not my native language, so help me out: what, exactly, do you mean by "delighted to stay the course," and how has it been substantially different from "enduring a [~70%] loss"?
Thx.
Ah, now it makes sense.  "Delighted to stay the course" means that I have content with my current position and have no plans to make any big changes.  I will stay on the course/path I am already on.  I will not change to a different path.

It would be disingenuous to ever delight in enduring a loss.  Anyone claiming to be delighted with a loss would be insincere.

One can endure a loss while still being delighted to stay the course.

Aha, "delighted" means "content."  Tricky language, your English.
1594  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why I believe a beautiful and very bullish Bitcoin storm is forming on: January 14, 2015, 05:52:11 PM
...My husband isn't quite as bullish as I am though.  He was even talking about selling and walking away this morning.  That kind of talk just drives me crazy!  

A bull married to a bear is painful.   Cry

He hasn't beaten you for that last shrewd investment you made a few days ago, what was it?  @ $288?  Please tell me you're safe.
1595  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: January 14, 2015, 05:47:02 PM
Lol, I take back everything I said--Bitcoiners are not the happiest people.
But I see how making an unrelated "investment" where you allegedly made money would make you delighted with this winner.

  ~Happy Investing!
... "delighted to stay the course" is different than "delighted to endure a loss".  Is English not your best language or are you deliberately misconstruing?

English is not my native language, so help me out: what, exactly, do you mean by "delighted to stay the course," and how has it been substantially different from "enduring a [~70%] loss"?
Thx.
1596  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 05:29:21 PM
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1597  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: January 14, 2015, 05:13:19 PM
I bought through SecondMarket around $700/btc and I'm delighted to stay the course. ...
Loses over two thirds of his "investment" & is delighted.  Bitcoiners are the happiest people Smiley
Although I'd be even happier to go to da moon directly, I haven't lost anything yet, I still have my full investment denominated in Bitcoins.  *If* I exchanged back into US dollars today then indeed I would realize a loss.  Btw, I have another pile of Bitcoins I bought at around $100/btc making it somewhat easier to still be delighted to stay the course.  I even took some profits at around $850/btc so that helps make me happy too.

Lol, I take back everything I said--Bitcoiners are not the happiest people.  
But I see how making an unrelated "investment" where you allegedly made money would make you delighted with this winner.

  ~Happy Investing!
1598  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: January 14, 2015, 04:39:27 PM
...
I bought through SecondMarket around $700/btc and I'm delighted to stay the course. ...

Loses over two thirds of his "investment" & is delighted.  Bitcoiners are the happiest people Smiley
1599  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 03:20:30 PM
^Le subtle Cheesy
1600  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 02:55:14 PM
Inca, this must be where wallstreet and secret big forces finally get in right? I mean they're dying to get in for a year now but were waiting for the price to down and all the weak hands shaken before they would gobble up all the cheap coins. So are we finally there?
one does has to wonder if there is something more driving this?

If one has such tendencies, yes.

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