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1821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 10, 2017, 03:32:05 PM

Since my cards are undervolted I forced a constant fan speed at 50%. At that speed the rig is not too noisy. Of course it is not completely silent but I can live with that. As I said outside is very cold and snowy, so the moist from outside compensates the dry air from the fans. When the temps get normal - about and above 0 C,  I will move my rigs in one room. They are on specially designed tables with wheels (which have breaks to be stable) so I can move them easily around Smiley My only concern is the summer... Even in one room with AC they generate heat above 35 C so that a second AC in the next room is not capable of stopping the hot air. Huh



Do you purposefully have your PSU mounted so that the heat is blown straight up into two of your GPU? Smiley

Maybe there is enough space between them but I wouldn't put my PSU under my GPUs. On the rigs I build I put them either offset to the side or behind the GPU.

The PSU is never hot. It is only for the mobo. Its fan makes a faint cool air flow, which can't harm, only help the circulation. Other PSU's are not visible in this pic. They are separate to have room for the cables.
1822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 10, 2017, 08:21:48 AM
Damn, the increase speed is awesome but my rig is getting more and more heat and its summer here lol. Anyone did a comparison between mining zec and eth too see which one consume more energy?
I think both are nearly the same. It depends how much undervolting can take each algorithm. For me zcash is by a tiny bit less power consuming.
Currently here is a winter with -20 C outside. Inside it is +25 C because I have rigs in each room  Roll Eyes. Excellent solution for heating the appartment  Grin. But for the summer it is a hell. Two AC 1200 are not enough. I will need a third AC or have to figure out some way of channelling  the heat outside. Huh

how do you fight dry air if its + 25 inside? I was thinking to use these for heating.... but it would be just too dry inside.
buckets of water strategically placed  with a fan blowing air across the top of the water Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It is noisily, isn't it? How do you cope with it?

Since my cards are undervolted I forced a constant fan speed at 50%. At that speed the rig is not too noisy. Of course it is not completely silent but I can live with that. As I said outside is very cold and snowy, so the moist from outside compensates the dry air from the fans. When the temps get normal - about and above 0 C,  I will move my rigs in one room. They are on specially designed tables with wheels (which have breaks to be stable) so I can move them easily around Smiley My only concern is the summer... Even in one room with AC they generate heat above 35 C so that a second AC in the next room is not capable of stopping the hot air. Huh

1823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 09, 2017, 03:48:52 PM
Damn, the increase speed is awesome but my rig is getting more and more heat and its summer here lol. Anyone did a comparison between mining zec and eth too see which one consume more energy?
I think both are nearly the same. It depends how much undervolting can take each algorithm. For me zcash is by a tiny bit less power consuming.
Currently here is a winter with -20 C outside. Inside it is +25 C because I have rigs in each room  Roll Eyes. Excellent solution for heating the appartment  Grin. But for the summer it is a hell. Two AC 1200 are not enough. I will need a third AC or have to figure out some way of channelling  the heat outside. Huh
1824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / People's Bank of China hammer the Bitcoin on: January 08, 2017, 11:16:41 AM
On Saturday night, December 7, the value of bitcoin on world markets continued the decline which begun on Thursday, falling to nearly $ 820. Last the cryptocurrency traded at these levels on 22 December. There are several reasons but one of them is a quite important precedent in crypto world. I am talking of an outright attempt of the PBOC (People's Bank of China) to hammer the bitcoin with the hope to stop the devaluation of the yuan.

Recall before it became known about the meetings that had PBOC with the representatives of the three leading bitcoin exchanges in China - BTCC, OKCoin and Huobi. According to its results, the regulator said that due to the high volatility of Bitcoin institutional and individual investors, we need a rational approach to the issue of investment funds in cryptocurrency.

Representatives of the exchanges themselves have tried to reassure the community, saying that we are not talking about any "ban" of Bitcoin in China. However, there are new messages on Saturday night that the PBOC intends to limit the possibility of exchanges in regard to attracting new users.

In particular, according to the publication in Caixin, the central bank intends to prohibit exchanges to mention in its promotional materials yuan's devaluation and the attractiveness of Bitcoin as an alternative investment vehicle, and promote their offline services.

It is also alleged that some of these exchanges were forced to take them to put forward demands and withdrew their marketing strategies.

BTCC posted this notice on their site:

"BTCC regularly meets with the People's Bank of China and we work closely with them to ensure that we are operating in accordance with the laws and regulations of China. As the longest running exchange in the world, we have always adhered to strict AML/KYC policies and continue to be compliant with all current regulations in China. The press release put forth from the PBOC today outlines that there is significant volatility in bitcoin trading, and also quoted from a notice released in 2013 saying that bitcoin is a virtual good and doesn’t have legal tender status. All of our users should be aware of the current policies on virtual goods as well as the risks involved in trading in volatile markets."

Now, what is the truth behind all this veiled explanations? What did really happen? The truth is as simple as that: the owners of BTCC, OKCoin and Huobi selled enourmous amount of bitcoin for yuan to satisfy the dictatorship of PBOC. This lead to an avalanche type of effect on the price of bictoin. I found it particular disturbing that the idea of decentralized cryptocoin is compromised by the owners of the biggest exchanges. Let's protect our freedom and fight back! Get out of any chinese exchanges, sell yuans and buy cryptocoins. Let's show we are stronger!
1825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v10.0 (Windows/Linux) on: January 08, 2017, 09:57:34 AM
For all my cards I get 4% improvement. I got it for undervolted and overlocked 390 with -a 1, and 280x with -a 1 or -a 2 depending on the model. For example XFX are better with -a 2 (215 sols vs 210 with -a 1), while Saphire Tri x is way better with -a 1, where I get 230 sols on stock cards vs 218 with -a 2.
1826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.3 (Windows/Linux) on: January 03, 2017, 11:55:07 AM
PIC cables have nothing to do wit hit

its about drivers and overclocking
Do you want me to sent mine faulty risers to prove your theory is far from the reality?
1827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.3 (Windows/Linux) on: January 03, 2017, 04:16:40 AM
after reinstalling OS win7 my miner sees only 4 of 6 gpus.
Why?
Can anybody help me?

Did you use the 6 gpu mod?
try win10
I had win10 before - hangs
now i'd like to use win 7_64 - problems - only 4 cards (i have 6). After updating drivers - no cards.
miner does not start at all:
There is no openGL...

You should change your risers first of all. I had bad luck with shitty risers months ago. Sometimes the card appear sometimes not. I thought the problems were elsewere but after changing two (!) packs of risers finally
the problems dissapeared for good. The next thing is to use windows 8.1 64 bit, especialli if you have h81 mobo. They are really well optimised for this OS. Moreover, windows 10 will have bigger load on the cpu which can slow your cards when mining. In my case win 10 is above 90% whereas win 8.1 around 20%.

You should see 6 cards after the drivers install and 1 probably with an exclamation mark in the device manager. You need to run the 6 card mod to be able to mine with all 6.
You dont need to buy new risers. Look at thi solution, it works for me.
http://www.gobitgo.com/articles/1001/How-To-Correctly-Use-and-Install-PCI-E-Riser-Cables/
I've been mining for nearly a year. Of course I know about this page. Obviously you didn't have risers that work with their own will like mine did. Again: bad riser can cause the OS not to see the card in the Device manager, or you can see it randomly on restarts, or can work really poorly crashing the drivers at the end. This can't be checked with this page or any other methods except changing the risers. Believe me, I had 5-6 faulty risers (powered usb) ordered by ebay. Finally I ordered more expensive but really good risers from amazon and they do their job perfectly.
1828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.3 (Windows/Linux) on: January 02, 2017, 10:01:44 PM
after reinstalling OS win7 my miner sees only 4 of 6 gpus.
Why?
Can anybody help me?

Did you use the 6 gpu mod?
try win10
I had win10 before - hangs
now i'd like to use win 7_64 - problems - only 4 cards (i have 6). After updating drivers - no cards.
miner does not start at all:
There is no openGL...

You should change your risers first of all. I had bad luck with shitty risers months ago. Sometimes the card appear sometimes not. I thought the problems were elsewere but after changing two (!) packs of risers finally the problems dissapeared for good. The next thing is to use windows 8.1 64 bit, especialli if you have h81 mobo. They are really well optimised for this OS. Moreover, windows 10 will have bigger load on the cpu which can slow your cards when mining. In my case win 10 is above 90% whereas win 8.1 around 20%.

You should see 6 cards after the drivers install and 1 probably with an exclamation mark in the device manager. You need to run the 6 card mod to be able to mine with all 6.
1829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 28, 2016, 04:21:39 PM
XMR is the best mining option right now. 686 h/s on my Rx 480  Grin 1235/2145  Grin

810 h/s on stock clock and memory R9 390, undervolted -150mv Grin
1830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 on: December 28, 2016, 10:27:04 AM
Claymore, please add the option -r 1 from the other miners to close the miner and execute reboot.bat.  Currently -r 1 restarts the miner after 1 min. Sometimes one of my cards hangs, causing the miner to freeze even with the options -w 1 or/and -r 0. Also it is better to show not the thread than hangs (in my case 8 and 9) but the card (I guess it is card 4).
1831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 on: December 22, 2016, 11:55:50 AM
Yesterday I moved my rigs to dwarfpool. For the last 24 hours I got at least 15% more ZEC than flypool. I don't trust in general the hashrate statistics, but in flypool it was always 10% less than the miner hashrate. Dwarf always shows 5% above the miner. Also the rejected shares in dwarf are 0.13%, whereas in flypool they were around 0.55%.
1832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.1 on: December 19, 2016, 11:51:33 PM
thanks for your response guys.
i have another question,i wanna build a rig that contain's 4 asus r9 390x dc2 8gb and 1 rx 480 4gb
actually i feel fear when i think about this, i wanna spend alot of money and i am afraid  of altcoins gonna be cheap in future. what shoud i do? is this predict possible?
mining of etc and zcash is profitable in future?
can you give me advise?
extra information: i spend nothing for electricity

better build 5x rx470 4gb rig.

"extra information: i spend nothing for electricity"

No reason to go with 470s at all. 390/390x is definitely the way to go with zero power cost.


I don't think this is necessarily true. I guess without power cost, maybe. But poster above is right. Beefier power supplies etc, make costs go way up. Likewise, try finding a 390 for less than 200, even used. Lowest I got mine for was like $185 out the door, but got lucky on ebay. $200 is more typical...

Figuring that in, it costs more per hash than RX 470's... Although it may be balanced out by having to buy more motherboards, RAM, etc... But for me, where electricity still matters to some extend, the 470's massively lower w/sol would be my choice... Just for anyone wondering what the better deal *might* be in their circumstance.

No. Going from 470 to 390/390x on a 6 card rig will require at most an extra 700W. That's a $100 PSU. If you don't think spending $200 ($100 PSU, $100 or so on GPU's) more to bump hash rate by 40%+ on free power then you shouldn't be building a rig to begin with.

Already without the latest update promising even more hash/s on 390/390x they run close to 50% higher than 470s so with NO power cost. It's a total no brainer if you are building a rig.

For one, an increase on Claymore miner's hashrate means difficulty goes up because everyone gets the increase. Second, yeah, if you are not paying for electricity, I can see the appeal of R9 390's. But 300 sol/s for 300 watts (ususally hashrate never gets that high...) vs ~210 sol/s for 100 watts sounds like a better deal to me. Well, mostly if someone were only building let's say, one 6-card rig. But I did make an error before. I guess when you consider not paying power, and also the additional cost of motherboards, cpu's, ram, etc, then the cost of a bigger PSU probably puts you under budget for the same hashrate... So I guess I didn't think about it all the way through.
You are comparing stock voltage 390 with undervolted 480. Mine 390 are undervolted -100 to -150 with the stock clock and memory (they work for weeks without crashes but the exact undervolting depends on the model; I use Trixx utility). They consume 200-210 W from the wall measured by watmeter. The whole rig with 6 390's consumes 1300 W at the peaks.
1833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.1 on: December 17, 2016, 10:45:38 AM
Hi Friends!

Can You advise me- what better to buy to have more H/s in minnig ZEC and spend less electricity?

Which card(s) is more profitable for minning ?

rx390x - 495$

rx390 -  420$

two rx470 4GB ram- 250$   or

two rx470 8GB ram- 304$  (do i need more RAM for mine ZEC or anything else?)

two rx480 8GB ram- 329$

Thank You So much!

The real price for 390 cards is around 250$. Don't look at the old amazon offers which are ridiculously high. However I warn you (and everyone planning to invest in new rigs) that most probably by the time of arriving of the cards, the profit will drop so much that the ROI will be impossible in near future. Look at the plummeting prices of ETH and ETC curently. The pressure on ZEC and XMR is too high now, so they will not hold the current price for long.

may be better to mine bitcoin? and

Thank You very much indeed!



You can use the calculator http://www.whattomine.com/ both for GPU mining and ASIC minig with Antminer S7 (for BTC and other "Asic friendly" coins).
1834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.1 on: December 17, 2016, 10:15:20 AM
Hi Friends!

Can You advise me- what better to buy to have more H/s in minnig ZEC and spend less electricity?

Which card(s) is more profitable for minning ?

rx390x - 495$

rx390 -  420$

two rx470 4GB ram- 250$   or

two rx470 8GB ram- 304$  (do i need more RAM for mine ZEC or anything else?)

two rx480 8GB ram- 329$

Thank You So much!

The real price for 390 cards is around 250$. Don't look at the old amazon offers which are ridiculously high. However I warn you (and everyone planning to invest in new rigs) that most probably by the time of arriving of the cards, the profit will drop so much that the ROI will be impossible in near future. Look at the plummeting prices of ETH and ETC curently. The pressure on ZEC and XMR is too high now, so they will not hold the current price for long.
1835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 on: December 17, 2016, 08:48:03 AM
With a stock XFX 280x I get 471 h/s. With a Sapphire tri-x 280x I get 490 h/s. It corresponds to the calculator, but still... Judging from the lower power consumption compared to other Claymore miners, I feel that there is a room for 10-15% optimisation. I didn't try wolf miner but according to http://monerobechmarks.byethost5.com/ the speeds for both miners are (may be) similar. At least for 390 and 480 series, because for 280's the info is scarce.
1836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.1 on: December 16, 2016, 02:18:02 PM
Hi to all

why my share found very very hight  327ms-1200ms--120ms--its Different why???

My memoory rom 4GB---and--cpu g3240 3.1Ghz..motherboard b85 asus

im tested all connection in pool drawfpool...but not fixed...what are you doing ...this see picture

in realy this problem in flypool i have......my problem where???




Ко рече, ко?
1837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.1 on: December 12, 2016, 09:06:53 PM
Some noobs are trying to hijack the tread for the Claymore miner, which is AMD only! Please go find another forum! Btw, you are jelous because you came too late for the ZEC party  Tongue Actually you will always be, because of the Nvidia stupid politics. You will fool nobody here. You forgot the past month and a half moaning in numerous posts here for a Nvidia miner Grin
1838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v8.0 on: December 07, 2016, 02:41:07 PM
Woot, sold all my Zcash Sad.. wish I waited a little longer..

Dang it! Same here  Shocked
1839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v8.0 on: December 03, 2016, 09:33:32 AM
Funny, so I've installed windows on one rig, Win 10 Pro, especialy for Claymore 8 and my 480's and like 10 years go, Win freezes completely on a random basis Smiley


 Just one of the many reasons serious miners prefer LINUX.
Why, cause "Linux doesn't freeze"?

 1) LINUX is infinitely more stable than Windows (which isn't saying much).
     I have LINUX machines that have run with no outages (hardware failure, shut down to physically MOVE the machine, and power outages excluded) since before Windows XP EXISTED - literally.
     The only Windows machine I've EVER had go a year without crashing was a NT 3.51 SP5 machine - vs MORE THAN 20 YEARS for some of my LINUX machines that were running the same user programs.

 2) If you have a power outage, your miner running under Windows won't restart when power comes back on 'till you LOG IN MANUALLY (I have yet to see any miner program that could be run a a service).
     LINUX makes it easy to set up so the miner will restart automatically after a power outage.


 IMO the only thing Windows has going for it are that the overclock/fan control programs available for it like Afterburner are a lot better.



None of these statements is true. For 2) check your Bios. Every Bios has an option to turn on the computer after the power is restored, including windows machine. Of course you have to put a shortcut to the miner in the start up menu.
1840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v8.0 on: December 01, 2016, 11:18:26 AM
ZEC full reward coming in 3 hours.  Grin
http://cryptomining-blog.com/8378-less-than-100-blocks-remain-until-the-end-of-the-zec-slow-start-mining/
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