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1841  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 02:15:28 PM


So I click on the link, fully expecting to be RickRolled, and see "South Park--Kill Yourself."
Do you remember what that episode was about, elasticband?  Yeah, gullible idiots being conned into buying useless, worthless shit by some huckster.

Doesn't sound like Bitcoin at all Smiley

Enjoy your bag of dicks bolo ties, elasticband.

OOH, YOU SO CLEVA!

i saw it more as annoying and useless hecklers were taking advantage of the fragile and weak minded.... a bit like forum trolls.

His absence until the price has stopped rising..guaranteed.
1842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 01:32:42 PM
What price when we get some short squeezing? Only 150 closed so far.

More than 1k shorts already closed in last 4h  Wink
I think 235$ is the mark when the losses are going to get to high. For real short squeeze we need 260$ or more.

Anyone looking at that volume on finex? Crazy!
1w volume in finex and stamp should indicate that we sow the bottom.

Was the volume on the last low not enough to indicate a bottom to you?

Nothing will indicate a bottom before the next ATH..
1843  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 12:58:44 PM
What price when we get some short squeezing? Only 150 closed so far.
1844  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 12:45:12 PM
Bear cultists about to go hide in their caves. Embarrassed

Bear/bull cultist - all are the same... they never know when is enough.

Hopefully we get a few dollars higher before lambtroll wakes Wink

lambtroll sets price alarms, he knows whats happening  Cheesy

Ducked back into his cave with his finger hovering over the buy button.
1845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 12:42:09 PM
Bear cultists about to go hide in their caves. Embarrassed

Bear/bull cultist - all are the same... they never know when is enough.

Hopefully we get a few dollars higher before lambtroll wakes Wink
1846  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 12:10:32 PM
Don't you see trends?

Bitcoin is play money for me. I see trends but I also see the very heavy handed manipulation of the price (down in recent months). I suspect when the price rises in earnest I will see the same going upwards. Let's be honest the price is set in general by whales trading thousands of coins.

The majority on here are just momentum chasing until the margin call.
1847  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 11:38:38 AM
Still think it's fake move.

well, sell then.

I love it! A few of you wrongfooted and it is fake. Whereas huge manipulative dumps are 'the trend'. Ha.
1848  Economy / Speculation / Re: TheJuice's Price Theory for 2015 on: January 18, 2015, 03:45:23 AM
They have been trying to do this since 2012 and still haven't moved further along. Why would it change this year? The hoops to jump through are many, and the actual info (let alone positive info) are few and far between. It could happen, but don't base 20% of your annual prediction on this yet unknown.

Another thing, there is no proof that they will ever buy another Bitcoin for the fund. The net inflow would be to the ETF with the possibility of a bit of overflow into the actual underlying asset. I'm sure they will want to recoup some of their costs incurred over the last 2+ years, trying to make this a reality.

Given they are still 10x up on their initial investment of 100,000 coins I don't think costs are a major problem.

I thought their buy in price is around $200?

Not a chance! They did most of their buying between $5 and $15.

@inca, this is true, so maybe I'm wrong about them needing to recoup, but it doesn't change any of the rest of my statement.

100,000 coins at 200 dollars is a cap of twenty million dollars. Peanuts compared to the multi trillion dollar capital pool excluded from investing in btc.

It does allow them to sell out. But they could have drip fed their holdings easily before now at much higher prices.

If ever approved it would be insanely bullish and lead to major volatility IMO.
1849  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 02:10:35 AM
Popped back in for a quick look. USD borrowing costs at all time low and long interest has collapsed to 15 million dollars US. Shorts just under 25k - sky high in BTC terms. Selling tame by BTC standards and a few walls on finex trying to box the price in.

Wouldn't be surprised to see us at 160 or 230 tomorrow. But I will just hold now. Price remains in a great zone for aggressive accumulation here in my view. Timing the absolute bottom is difficult. If BTC isn't doomed then buying coins for these cheap prices is low risk.

Things are looking ever more ripe for a short squeeze. But as ever the thin market is at the whims of those with strong liquidity to boss it around.



1850  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin dropping on: January 18, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
Just cashed out 500btc bought at 170 for 200 Smiley
Will buy again around $100 which will be rather sooner than later.


You no longer exert an influence on the market. One less person to sell.
1851  Economy / Speculation / Re: TheJuice's Price Theory for 2015 on: January 18, 2015, 01:53:05 AM
This time last year it was unthinkable that we could go this low. Now we are here it's unthinkable we could go exceptionally high in a year, so I predict we go exceptionally high.

In early 2014 the price was high and everyone was predicting moon.

Now in early 2015 the price is much lower and everyone is predicting doom.

The trend is your..wait

1852  Economy / Speculation / Re: TheJuice's Price Theory for 2015 on: January 18, 2015, 01:52:05 AM
They have been trying to do this since 2012 and still haven't moved further along. Why would it change this year? The hoops to jump through are many, and the actual info (let alone positive info) are few and far between. It could happen, but don't base 20% of your annual prediction on this yet unknown.

Another thing, there is no proof that they will ever buy another Bitcoin for the fund. The net inflow would be to the ETF with the possibility of a bit of overflow into the actual underlying asset. I'm sure they will want to recoup some of their costs incurred over the last 2+ years, trying to make this a reality.

Given they are still 10x up on their initial investment of 100,000 coins I don't think costs are a major problem.
1853  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2015, 06:53:39 PM
no? where do you have this from?

"1 BTC purchase may require a paychan of value 0.5 BTC and a paychan of 0.8 BTC, used together."


I'm a 3rd year Mech Eng student, and even this shit is double dutch to me.

Can somebody give me a simplified version of how this will work for the consumer?

Read the spec?

http://impulse.is/impulse.pdf
1854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye Bye to sub-$200 cheap coins on: January 17, 2015, 04:11:55 PM
Just dropped below the sub 200 few hours ago. And talk about missed opportunity. I don't this is over yet as I have a feeling it's going to be another round of onslaught.

You could be right. I doubt it. Volume is anaemic. The bid walls on finex are creeping higher.
1855  Economy / Speculation / Re: New money decides the movement of price on: January 17, 2015, 03:24:13 PM
I own some Bitcoin ATM's and I can tell you my transactions are up 500% today.   Just wait until all those people get their bank accounts verified on Coinbase next week.

Have your transactions ever gone up 500% before?

Nope.  I have only had them in place for about a month.  It has been steady except for yesterday where I did my average weekly sales in one day.

But but but the trolls say bitcoin is doomed.

he used to have 10 transactions per day before, today he has 50 and he gets excited, so you see why bitcoin is doomed.

sub $200 is way too expensive, he asks you to wait so he can dump bags

You better hope this drift down isn't a bear trap silly troll alt.
1856  Economy / Speculation / Re: New money decides the movement of price on: January 17, 2015, 02:59:57 PM
I own some Bitcoin ATM's and I can tell you my transactions are up 500% today.   Just wait until all those people get their bank accounts verified on Coinbase next week.

Have your transactions ever gone up 500% before?

Nope.  I have only had them in place for about a month.  It has been steady except for yesterday where I did my average weekly sales in one day.

But but but the trolls say bitcoin is doomed.
1857  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is actually good news for Bitcoin on: January 17, 2015, 02:52:29 PM
Is this thread really lambchop posting then replying to himself from multiple troll alt accounts? lol..

ps. Look up hyperinflation in the dictionary.
1858  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2015, 01:22:27 PM
A lot of you are short it seems.

Expecting someone else to push the price lower?

just look at the charts...we don't go up now...we will at least retest...but after that we should go up (again)...hopefully for a longer timeframe and into much higher levels

Could you draw out the future for me and the people unsure of it please? Smiley
 

i don't know the future...but at the present we will not go up significantly...(maybe we go up a few dollars, to maximise profits for some)...
i guess most of us didn't expect to go down to 200 again (explanation for the absence of the beartrolls yesterday)

but the  breakout failed and here we are again (with a little help from an attentionwhore on twitter - please delete his name if you quoted him somewhere)...

if you have bought bitcoin keep them (as i will) i will try to buy more when we go lower (but as i said i don't know if we just retest or go even lower)...if you want to take a risk you can short...but going (margin) long NOW will just make you more nervous


You say you don't know the future, then tell me we wont go up and will go down Smiley

1859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2015, 12:50:54 PM
A lot of you are short it seems.

Expecting someone else to push the price lower?

just look at the charts...we don't go up now...we will at least retest...but after that we should go up (again)...hopefully for a longer timeframe and into much higher levels

Could you draw out the future for me and the people unsure of it please? Smiley

My original point was it is getting very cheap to borrow money and go long. Selling has stalled and shorts remain very high. Sure we can retest the low or even plumb lower but the point where everyone realises (or is squeezed into undertanding) the bottom is in is not far off. It is probably in already.

But this is a weekend and it's bitcoin.. so Smiley




 
1860  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2015, 12:31:22 PM
A lot of you are short it seems.

Expecting someone else to push the price lower?
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