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1901  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 17, 2015, 06:30:45 PM
I sold some btc this morning on localbitcoins and then went and bought 3 ounces of gold.
Did I make the right choice?
Never go full retarded - I did something similar when bitcoin as about $10 and gold $2000. I'm hanging in here to say I told you so to cypher.

I did something similar, too (when bitcoin reached silver partity) and I was planning to do it again with gold parity (but it wasn't quite reached).

Now I'm not so sure any more if I will swap BTC <-> gold when parity is reached.

To answer freakying99: there are no wrong choices, just choices. You never know what it's good for or how the alternative would've played out. Sure, you can always isolate things and say stuff like: "I should've sold at $1160 and rebought at $160". But everything's connected and who knows, maybe you would've been run over buy a bus or crashed your Ferrari on cocaine had you done that.

The important thing is that you make the choice (not someone else) and that you actually make it and not let time make a choice for you (inaction). And of course also that you use the information, the resources (includes opinions of others) and tools available to you. That way one can learn from mistakes, improve tools and resources and one doesn't get into the habit of blaming others.
1902  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 17, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
Das Problem werden die Kennzahlen sein, diese werden dann von irgendwem (Typen wie Draghi und Co.) schön gerechnet und das wiederum zerstört das Vertrauen in eine Währung.

Mal von der technischen Umsetzung abgesehen finde ich wird durch dieses Gedankenexperiment (Inflation an alle verteilen) klar, daß das ganze Spiel mit der "gemanageten Geldmenge" nur eine Farce ist um die Leute zu beklauen die halt nicht direkt an der Druckpresse sitzen.
1903  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 17, 2015, 05:54:46 PM
So, die 250$ haben wir erst mal wieder verlassen.

Gibts eigentlich Zahlen wie bekannt BTC in Griechenland ist?
Denke nicht dass irgend eine Regiering (derzeit) in BTC investiert, aber für die privaten Leute ist es doch sicher interessant, wenn es droht, dass man nur noch 100€ am Tag abheben oder überweisen kann.
Ich denke für Regierungen wirds den GovCoin geben. Jeder Kontoinhaber kann sich dann jeden Monat 20% der Gesamtsumme der Coins selber generieren per Knopfdruck.

Da fällt mir ein, gestern hab ich den Anfang eines Interviews mit Andolfatto geguckt (der "fedcoin"-typ).

Zieht euch mal 2-3 minuten rein, diese Stelle ist interessagt (über Deflation und elastic money supply):

https://youtu.be/LK6qWjtG5A8?t=761

Der behauptet (an anderer Stelle, glaube kurz vorher), Deflation sei halt deshalb schlecht, weil alle Verträge ja in der Währung gemacht seien und man dann ständig neu verhandeln müsse wenn die Preise fallen. Dann kommt der Hahnebüchene Vorschlag (dort wo mein Link sartet) mittels einer cryptowährung und magisch hereinkommenden Kennzahlen aus der Realen Welt automatisch die Geldmenge zu erhöhen (über alle wallets gleichverteilt) wenn eine kritische Deflation passiert zum Biespiel. Ja alter, what the fuck?!? Find ich ja gut, wenn Inflation ausnahmsweise mal allen gleichmässig zugute kommt (dann isses kein Diebstahl mehr), aber dann kann ich doch gleich eine Kennzahl veröffentlichen (Infla- Deflationsrate oder sonstwas, Faktor X halt) und diese dann in den Verträgen verwenden. Und als nächstes werden dann die Preise für Butter und Öl zentral geplant...



1904  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 16, 2015, 06:29:20 PM

expectation leads to frustration

but hope we can Wink
1905  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 16, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
Hier geht es immer noch um den Kursverlauf von BTC, lass das Offtopic-Gedöns mal bitte bleiben.

Alles hat mit dem Kursverlauf des BTC zu tun, ist doch klar ;-)
1906  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 16, 2015, 04:24:10 PM

I don't know:



but I like it
1907  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 16, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
HOLY CRAP!

wtf?
1908  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: UnTorrent.Me - Convert torrents into zip downloads on: June 15, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Just a little question, is the download resumeable? sometimes my internet disconnected itself  Embarrassed

It uses http, so yes: you can resume with the right client (like filezilla or wget, curl,...)

Thank you for the answer Cheesy
i will use this service from now on  Wink
Edit: my internet disconnected again and i can't resume the download Sad

What are you using to download?

Firefox
and i tried to use internet downloader but both the downloader said it wasn't resumeable

strange. I remember using filezilla to download and it downloaded multiple segment through separate connections. That would hint at resuming to be possible (using http 1.1 range parameter)

Next time I download something I will try and post back here with result.
1909  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 14, 2015, 06:16:07 PM
Dumps are fine.  It redistributes wealth.

Into the hands of those manipulating the price? Smiley

And those who suspect manipulation of price?
1910  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: UnTorrent.Me - Convert torrents into zip downloads on: June 14, 2015, 06:00:40 PM
Just a little question, is the download resumeable? sometimes my internet disconnected itself  Embarrassed

It uses http, so yes: you can resume with the right client (like filezilla or wget, curl,...)

Thank you for the answer Cheesy
i will use this service from now on  Wink
Edit: my internet disconnected again and i can't resume the download Sad

What are you using to download?
1911  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: EliptiBox - Ultra secured Hardware Wallet packed with unique features. on: June 14, 2015, 04:58:56 PM
interested! Also for other applications that require secure storage.
1912  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: June 14, 2015, 01:25:19 PM
...

rpietila

My recollection is that the Bible says that it is the love of money that is the root of evil.  A careful reading of Matthew's passage (and knowing the context of those days) re the rich man and the camel going through the eye of a needle suggests that it is not being rich per se, it is that the rich man must unload his camel at the town gate and pass through the little door to enter the city after dark...

*  *  *

I did not watch the video you linked (yet), but perhaps at small scale such altruism (sharing produce w/ neighbors) might work -- at that scale.

*  *  *

I completely agree that without concentration of capital it would be essentially impossible to build factories.  I know that would be the case for ball bearing plants which require a LOT of money to build and run. 

"Ball bearings are my business."

only half-jokingly: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:26967
1913  Economy / Speculation / Re: ~1,314,000 new coins will be created over the next 365 days on: June 14, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
well most of those 8B are children or people that cannot handle money anyway(people with diseases ecc...), i think when we talk about full adoption, we should look at 1B at most, still too much for everyone that is looking to hold 1 btc, but it was just an example

lol. You think 87.5% of the population don't use money?

Children use money and people with diseases, too. And in cases where they don't, usually parent or custodians handle money for them. There's just no life possible without money most parts of this world.

Also your numbers seem to be off. Nowhere near 87.5% of people are sick or children.


you think that baby of 0-3 years uses money? and those that are terminally ill, uses money? anyway i didn't say that they do not use money at all, it is just that something like bitcoin will be a part of their world

add to my number the existing number of old guys

what i mean is that with 1B you can already consider fully adoption achieved, there is no need to wait for everyone on the planet to use bitcoin(which won't happen ever)

yeah, sure. I agree. 1 Billion = "success"!
1914  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 14, 2015, 01:02:11 PM

Ach, mit dem richtigen Maß an schwarzem Humor geht das auch so.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Wenn der Artikel recht hat und das Geldabheben in Gr beschränkt wird würde das dem BTC sicher einiges an Auftrieb verleihen, jetzt heist es bei mir aber auch erstmal Shorten Tongue

"cyprus 2.0" wäre schon geil. Garnicht nötig daß die Griechen tatsächlich in erheblichem Umfang coins kaufen. Reicht völlig wenn die Medien das so berichten, war bei Zypern ja auch so.
1915  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: UnTorrent.Me - Convert torrents into zip downloads on: June 14, 2015, 11:34:24 AM
Just a little question, is the download resumeable? sometimes my internet disconnected itself  Embarrassed

It uses http, so yes: you can resume with the right client (like filezilla or wget, curl,...)
1916  Economy / Speculation / Re: ~1,314,000 new coins will be created over the next 365 days on: June 14, 2015, 11:33:17 AM
well most of those 8B are children or people that cannot handle money anyway(people with diseases ecc...), i think when we talk about full adoption, we should look at 1B at most, still too much for everyone that is looking to hold 1 btc, but it was just an example

lol. You think 87.5% of the population don't use money?

Children use money and people with diseases, too. And in cases where they don't, usually parent or custodians handle money for them. There's just no life possible without money most parts of this world.

Also your numbers seem to be off. Nowhere near 87.5% of people are sick or children.
1917  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: UnTorrent.Me - Convert torrents into zip downloads on: June 14, 2015, 08:04:50 AM
just to let you know, I use your service on a regular basis and am very happy!

keep it up
1918  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 13, 2015, 08:53:55 PM
Ich hab Recht und Du hast Deine Ruh. Fertig aus und Basta.

Einverstanden.
1919  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 13, 2015, 05:58:29 PM
Aber mittlerweile sollte jeder begriffen haben, dass es nicht unendlich steigen kann und es immer wieder zu Kursstürzen kommt.

Nun, das ist nen mathematischer Fakt, dass exponentielles Wachstum nicht unbegrenzt in der Realitaet funktionieren kann.

Ich stör mich immer an solchen Aussagen. Eine andere ist: "It's mathematically impossible that monetary inflation goes on forever".

Die Mathematik an sich hat kein Problem mit unbegrenztem exponentiellem Wachstum. Das ist ohne weiteres abbildbar.

Es ist eher ein physikalischer (oder "weltlicher") Fakt, daß exponentielles Wachstum nicht unbegrenzt in der Realität funtionieren kann.

In der Mathematik kommen überhaupt keine Fakten über die Realität vor, sie ist ein reines Werkzeug... oder auch eine eigene Welt, die man erforschen kann. Um "Mathematik" und "Fakten über die Realität" zu verbinden, kann man ein "Modell" benutzen.

jaja, ich weiss: niemand mag Klugscheisser.

*verpisst sich*
1920  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: June 13, 2015, 04:48:31 PM


your arrows there. they look like mushrooms... or very thin...

to anyone who can't unsee that: sorry!
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