Herrlich. Aufstehen und schon wieder ein neuer Spike. Geil. Alles nur viel schneller wie damals ...
In 2 Wochen macht der Inhaber von Poloniex die Finger hoch oder haut ganz ab und verkauft die geklauten Ether und Bitcoin bei Bitfinex. ROFL. Und alles wieder von vorne ...
Investoren von außen (Fiat) wird es nicht treffen. Poloniex Volume (%) ETH/BTC 82.46 % ETH/USDT 0.32 % Eine gute Erinnerung mal ab und zu seine coins von den Exchanges zu holen. Danke. |
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enjoy the relative tranquility and ontopicness.
soon enough, this thread will be swarming with all kinds of critters again.
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I wonder why XMR hasn't profited yet from the outflow of BTC to alts... any explanation? |
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Wird Bitfinex so wie z.B. Kraken ETH gegen USD handeln? Also Bitfinex ab Montag neben Bitcoin und LTC auch ETH?
Mit allem pipapo wie Hebeldingsbums?
Ja genau. ETH vs. USD, ETH vs. BTC vermute ich. (Am Rande: Da steht sogar was von geplanten EUR-Märkten.) Ja, inklusive Hebel: Es gibt einen "Markt für Geld" auf bitfinex: dort kann man sich von anderen Nutzern Geld (BTC, USD, LTC, ETH) gegen Zinsen leihen dieses dann benutzten um short/long zu gehen. Natürlich muss etwas eigenes Geld dazu, damit die Position zur not geschlossen werden kann so daß die Geldverleiher geschützt sind. |
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bitfinex added ether, mit swap market, leverage, shorting und allem pipapo. Ab Montag. Aber shorting erst wenn swap markt liquide genug ist. Max leverage noch unklar.
Ich würde zu gerne wissen was das bedeutet. Du meinst für den Preis? Weiss ich auch nicht. Oder hast du Probleme mit meiner zugegebenermassen etwas kryptischen Ausdrucksweise? Falls ja, hier das announcement: https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/announcements/?id=93Ether launch
Posted: March 12, 2016
Bitfinex is pleased to announce upcoming support for trading Ether. While we are generally wary of adding new digital assets to the platform and believe that Ether’s future as a store of value is quite uncertain, it is, nonetheless, hard to ignore the Ether trading volumes at other exchanges and the many requests we have received from our customers to add Ether trading pairs. As such, we will begin trading Ether against both US dollar and bitcoin on Monday, March 14th at noon UTC. Starting immediately, however, customers will be able to deposit Ether into their exchange wallets.
It is our plan to allow shorting and margin trading on Ether as soon as we are comfortable with the book depth and availability of Ether for lending, but that will depend on the community’s support for Ether trading on our platform as Bitfinex itself is not a market participant in its own markets. Assuming strong adoption of Ether trading on our platform, we could enable shorting and margin trading in less than a week. We do not yet know what sort of leverage ratios we will permit on Ether, but given Ether’s substantial volatility relative to bitcoin, we may, in fact, initially allow less leverage than we do on bitcoin.
In order to encourage market making to help jumpstart our Ether markets, we will be offering introductory pricing on both Ether pairs. Through the end of March, it will be free to add liquidity (market maker) and 20bps to remove liquidity (market taker). Trading volumes in Ether during this time will not affect volume tiers for bitcoin and litecoin, but after March, Ether will be part of the existing aggregated volume pricing tiers.
We are also actively pursuing the addition of Euro trading pairs as well – we will naturally keep the community apprised of any further developments. Once again, we thank you for your continued support as we strive to deliver the best in cryptocurrency trading.
Ich hab's ganz klein gemacht, weil's ja vielleicht off-topic ist. Es wird ja von einigen behauptet der eth-kurs hätte nichts mit dem BTC-Kurs zu tun, also bin ich mal vorsichtig und entschuldige mich kleinlaut für den off-topic post. Bitcoin stable - nothing to see here - move on. |
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Wow, nailed that little ETH pump perfectly. I'm all out of ETH now, doubled my BTC in the last couple of weeks plus now have a DASH masternode. Good stuff. Thank you whales, you may now dump all the ETH.
It'll take another week at least. First bitfinex fun, then bitfinex swap market liquid. Then shorting on leverage. |
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AlexGR, do you allow for the possibility that maybe small blocks isn't a good idea?
Timing is crucial. Even 1TB per year blocks (20mb/block) will have its time when 20mb/block will be "alright". Upgrade too soon, you'll have 10gb txs and 990gb spam. Upgrade on time, you'll get 800-950gb txs and 50-200gb spam. I don't understand why it's spam when it pays a fee. Miners are free to exclude tx if the fee is too small. |
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bitfinex added ether, mit swap market, leverage, shorting und allem pipapo. Ab Montag. Aber shorting erst wenn swap markt liquide genug ist. Max leverage noch unklar.
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und nun? Bull oder Bear?
ob bull oder bär weiss ich nicht, aber wenn die bullen die obere Begrenzung dieses massiven Bull-flags (bei ca. $450) durchbrechen (ich seh das Ding ja gerne auch als Henkel einer Tasse) und die ganze in alts gespeicherte Energie wieder zurückschiesst in den guten alten bitcoin und dann noch irgendwelche guten News endlich mal passieren an der governance/blocksize Baustelle (oder sollte man lieber Kriegsschauplatz dazu sagen?), gefolgt von schönem Medien-Hype (keine bessere Werbung als steigender Preis) evtl. mit etwas Finanzkrise gewürzt und garniert mit diesem Psycho-Wahnsinn wo jeder nur noch in blanker Panik auf "kaufen" klickt, dann könnte der Bitcoin uns echt mal wieder überraschen, und damit meine ich in kurzer zeit und weit über das 2013er all-time-high hinausschiessen. Die Bären hatten ja 2014 ihr großes Jahr und konnten das 2015 auch noch etwas nachklingen lassen. Jetzt wird's mal wieder Zeit für ein bisschen ausgelassenen Bullenspass finde ich. Einen Vorgeschmack wie sich das anfühlt hatten wir ja schon letzten September erleben dürfen. Also ich hätte da Bock drauf. Ihr? (Wer nicht einverstanden ist soll bitte gehen und kann seine eigene altcoin machen, bitte.. ja? Das wär gut, danke.) |
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Core's vision make no sense
they want to make bitcoin full nodes be able to run by anyone
but they want the use of bitcoin to be limited to elite central bankers types
i dont get it.
They lack economic vision entirely. They preach about decentralisation, whilst openly trying to convert bitcoin from p2p cash to a settlement layer. Why would people continue to run nodes for an ultra expensive high value settlement network which processes very few transactions? There is no incentive to do so. Plus economically why are new users going to be attracted to bitcoin with finite transaction capacity and rising transaction fees above alternative chains and payment networks? Bitcoin is amazing because it combines all the best properties of cash with gold. They want it to just be gold and there is a reason that is no longer used by the common man. Very well said. What will happen if bitcoin is "just gold"? Well, simple: with high tx fees (friction), it will make sense to use "money surrogates". Enter fractional reserve banking. This is why I think smallblocks is not "developer vision" but "establishment attack". |
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it's almost about bitcoin  pretty cool movie |
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Pft deterring fees will occur automatically as the block reward disappears. At a price of 500$/BTC it would work out like this:
1 block (25 bitcoins) created every 10 minutes -> for each minute, 2.5 bitcoins are created X $500/bitcoin = $1250/minute.
So every minute $1250 in fees needs to come from transactions (instead of the block rewards today)
Using 10 transactions/sec as maximum speed (with current block size), 600 transactions each minute.
$1250/600 transactions = $2,08 per transaction.
Even higher BTC price -> even higher fees.
Edit: and if you use 5 tx/s instead of the theoretical 10 tx/s the amount doubles.
Yup. What's wrong with $4 a transaction? Totally fine. $40 a tx is fine too .... high friction (tx fees) enable fractional banking (which we wanted to get rid of in the first place)  |
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COOOL! Just one question: is that considered "nice weather" in Iceland? It is. It is not raining sidways  That's what I feared. *sells his complete Auroracoin stash* (just a joke, of course, I AM planning to visit once I can do most things with AUR, though. How much is 1 hour of sunshine in AUR?) |
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Sieht da noch jemand Cup&Handle in den letzten zwei Tagen?  ne. Aber über die letzten 18 Monate |
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COOOL! Just one question: is that considered "nice weather" in Iceland? |
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and maybe even if there are ways to show charts that separate spam and legit transactions
I can imagine that a flood of tx without fee can be considered spam. But nowadays, only mining pools use zero fee tx to payout their miners. There are hardly any zero fee tx issued otherwise. (800 in the past 24 hours, source: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ ) But if a tx carries a fee, how to decide if it's spam or not? What is your definition of spam? Don't you get it? Anything > 1 MB is spam. |
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 Last bus stop to get on? Otherwise look at the back of the bus driving away? ;-) |
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How about a slogan like: "Escape the bank, be your own bank"
Seeing as Icelanders have it out for the bankers.
For some reason, "Empowering financial freedom" comes to mind -Fuse "A new kind of money" ? |
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1) AUR has broken up the historical resistance (green line).
2) Double Bottom Reversal.
aaah. switch to LOG, ok cool. hadn't noticed break of the resistance. |
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Please explain ? I see that price is somewhat reaching the ''low'' it reached after the bubble collapse. maybe he saw it in a mirror? |
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