All negativity aside...
We will do our best with this project and hope the community responds with support. All source will be open source once we're ready for contributions.
Theymos has done enough work to work with us to know our competency through our mutual networks. We are doing the community a favor by building this and also for the open source community because a forum of this sort isn't exactly high priority on the "hipster" Silicon Valley list of important things to do. However there is a lot to be done in terms of making the technology more up to date. I hope we can all agree on that note.
Heh, sorry I thought you were an imposter. I read a few of your posts perhaps in the wrong light, and thought someone was making a joke. |
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No they havent, and they aren't affiliated with Slickage, its just someone messing with us.
Thats incorrect. They really are. Note the age of the account: I whitelisted it a while back for them on request. It's the real deal. I'm still incredibly skeptical, there are more than a few inconsistencies here. There was never mention of any NDA, nor any mention that any work had actually begun yet. Theymos had said that they were planning on collecting information from the forum users to see what things they think should be implemented, yet work has already been done, and they have been given no feedback yet? |
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So you are doing an open source software but you cannot disclose the work?
Your bullshit "NDA" excuse is not going to work here.
Let's try again: did you designed a forum software before? Could you provide a reference?
No they havent, and they aren't affiliated with Slickage, its just someone messing with us. |
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@wangbus Maybe you can help answer some questions from the OP How are you sure Wangbus is able to accomplish this task? Have you seen any work that he is done, and if so can that work be made public?
Why does his company not have a website? Has he ever done any projects before?
Do you have a legal contract with Wangbus and if you do would you be willing to make it public?
Did slickage accept BTC or fiat? Can we see the transaction in the blockchain? Thanks! Its just some random guy, they dont represent slickage. |
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This might just be a nitpick, but Bitcoin is closer to $500/coin presently than $1k. And some of us are quite bearish and expect it to go to $200 before $1k, so I'm not sure it's a good idea to keep referring to coin held as if it's worth $1k/coin anymore.
Thats fine, you are correct Bitcoin holdings should not be denominated in fiat prices, however 1/3rd of the payment was already made, and that was at a higher rate than we are at now. I suppose my main point is, the forums has very few expenses, a good deal of ad revenue, so why not go all out on making a neat new platform. I'm willing to give Theymos the benefit of the doubt on this until he proves that he did not deserve that benefit. I would have liked to be in the loop regarding his decision making process, but frankly, I don't think that many of the people here myself included would have actually been any help. I'm assuming he talked to people who's technical opinion's he valued, and he made his decision from there. If not, we can boo him in a year's time if the end product is a flop. |
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Luckily I'm a new member and wasn't here when people used to send 50 BTC donations. Not because I have something against donations, but because I'd hate to see my money being spent this way. Most communities use free forum software like PhpBB or SMF (or, of course, paid products like vBulletin) and, in case they need particular customizations, they pay a company to do the work for them. But of course it's nothing like 7 figures or even 6! Not sure why Bitcointalk is so different and needs to spend such amounts of money. At least why not try to update the forum to the latest SMF version or change forum software altogether FOR FREE before trying any other solutions?
Most communities don't have 6 million dollars sitting around that people have been badgering to have spent on forum software for a year and a half. Frankly, the forum's expenses are pretty minimal now, hosting is covered by PIA in return for an ad slot it seems, and only 25% of the income generated is used, the other 75% goes to storage where it would continue to sit for years. Some security bounties are paid out now and then, but a week's worth of advertising would cover those. I dont know if Theymos made the right direction in spending a million dollars on a completely custom forum, however you never know, it could turn out really cool, and become a widely used replacement to SMF if it is as neat as it could be. Can you imagine the advertising associated if half of the world's new forums were based on a build created with Bitcoins? I've said it a few times already, at this particular point in time, I don't especially agree with the decision, however I'm willing to give Theymos time to address certain issues, and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I will start complaining AFTER I see what has been produced. Whats done is done, its not my money, and we aren't going without on something else because Theymos decided to break 1/6th of the bank on new forum software. |
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Those are some nice Coins. If i had the BTC i would buy them.
Thank you  , I'm debating whether or not to sell them now. I am aware that fiat BTC value does not greatly change the value of Casascius coins, since they are denominated in Bitcoin values, however the last time Bitcoin was this low in terms of fiat, I was selling the 1 BTC Gold/Silver coins for 2.75-3 BTC. Curious as to why these haven't sold near instantly. Whatever, if they dont sell, I guess I'll end up holding them for another year or ten. |
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Don't use those URL! The executables are infected with some trojan, "systemd"! Take my advice. I will report this post to the moderators. I didn't find anything on any of them? I'm not saying you shouldn't use caution, but I personally didn't find anything suspicious. |
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To address the slight confusion, I do have 2 Gold/Silver 1 Bitcoin coins, I just didn't take a picture of the second one as it the same as the one that I do have a picture of, but with a different address.
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Smoothie, you have indeed won, just need a Bitcoin address and the coins will be sent to you asap.
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Donator / VIP tags
You can still donate 10/50 BTC for Donator/VIP status. It isn't really emphasized anymore though because the forums doesn't really need more donations. The amount is not being changed, because 10 BTC has always been 10 BTC, and the dollar amount is irrelevant. Theymos had thought about adding smaller increment donations, however did not because no more money is needed. But what you can do with the donated BTC clearly is relevant. If the forum needed more donations, I am pretty sure it would lower that  And why was it set at 10/50 BTC rather than 0.0001/0.0005 BTC? The dollar amount?  Nope, Theymos has stated multiple times that the donation amount would not be lowered. 10 Bitcoins was about a month's worth of hosting at the time, which is why it was set at 10 Bitcoins, I'd imagine the fact that 10 and 50 are both even and common denominations is another factor to why it wasn't 8.79428 BTC and was 10 instead. |
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tinfoil hat time: these food grade nitrous is often abused was not purified for medicinal use it's tainted with very poinsonous gases! ...i will find a link for you and the exact chemicals we are talking about here..=\
Purified? Nitrous isn't purified. I don't have a doubt that some people that buy this are using it to abuse it, but they are abusing it for the same reason that doctors and dentists administer it. "exact chemicals" There are no exact chemicals, its Nitrous Oxide. Nitrous isn't poisonous, it's lauging gas, it has a sedative effect. "Nitrous oxide (N2O) is also known as laughing gas. It is a colorless sweet-smelling and sweet-tasting gas that is used in dentistry and surgery because inhaling the gas produces analgesic and anesthetic effects. The gas is also used to produce the engine output of automotive vehicles and as an oxidizer in rocketry. Nitrous oxide gets the name "laughing gas" because inhaling it produces euphoria." |
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get out of here with your fake bullshit ~ you are selling poisonous gases on the bitcointalk website ,,,am i the only person who finds this a bit out of place? =0
Nitrous isn't poisonous, hence why some people abuse it. You can buy it pretty much anywhere, so pretty sure theres nothing wrong with selling it here. However, I doubt that it is going to be bakers or dentists buying it here. |
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Donator / VIP tags
You can still donate 10/50 BTC for Donator/VIP status. It isn't really emphasized anymore though because the forums doesn't really need more donations. The amount is not being changed, because 10 BTC has always been 10 BTC, and the dollar amount is irrelevant. Theymos had thought about adding smaller increment donations, however did not because no more money is needed. |
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Yeah, if someone stands to lose millions of dollars by scamming $20k, they tend to not scam.
While I don't always agree with Goat, he is someone I would trust with my money. I very highly doubt that this is a scam attempt.
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yes they are! its just theymos is the only one who does it.
he adds and removes people from default trust all the time.
Changing who is on the default trust list just puts people's feedback in different sections, from Untrusted to Trusted. What is actually said about a person isn't moderated. |
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First: Where did I say that I would use all of the donated funds for any particular project? When you donated, the Donate page said something like, "Donations will mostly be used for forum software development." The Donate topic made no mention of forum software. At various points I said things like "I intend to get forum software created soon," which was true at the time, but I never said that I definitely would do it soon.
Second: I am using the money for forum software development, so your complaint is ridiculous. It is not ridiculous (though IMO incorrect) to criticize exactly how I'm spending forum money toward achieving this goal, but you donated knowing that I alone was responsible for managing donated funds without any oversight except such oversight that I create. The Donate page has always said, "Donated funds are managed by theymos."
I admit that it was never particularly my plan to wait years before spending donated funds (though my belief in Bitcoin's long-term value influenced my conservative spending), but this ended up creating loads of money for the forum, so I don't feel too bad about it.
You have a Donator section and a special icon. The details of the Donator section were never specified. In fact, I always phrased these perks like this: "If you become a Donator/VIP, then you get access to these perks." Notice that I do not promise that the perks will last forever; only that you will, for a time, receive them.
d00d, cut the chit chat. Where is the evidence to back up your claims. *Cough cough* keep in mind Theymos gave the donator's section a bit of information that was a piece of the whole that was to be made public on Monday. I'd assume you will get your evidence on Monday. How is your evening? |
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Prepare to be highly disappointed in one years time.
And if what you say is true, about Theymos not being competent do to this a year ago he should have made that public knowledge before accepting donations.
I hope you are not right, but I suppose we will see. I don't have the highest expectations at the moment, but at the same time, we have very few details, so I'm mostly withholding judgement until there is more information to work with. I didn't say Theymos wasn't competent a year ago, I was using that as an example to say that Theymos has been holding out for an opportunity at better forum software from a competant firm. Perhaps he has finally found one. There was never any promise that there would be new forum software in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, or 2025. He just said that he was going to collect donations and place ads to collect money for hosting expenses and forum upgrades. He is now spending money on forum upgrades. Just because you disagree with his time frame choice doesn't mean he wasn't within his right both legally and morally to have waited until now for a good opportunity to get the forum upgraded. |
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I think you are asking the wrong questions. The question should be how was the money used to do what theymos said it would be used for. No one is questioning that he just the money sit for years doing nothing and neglecting his duties.
The donations are being spent on a $350,000 Forum upgrade that we are all now aware of. My point is, it is your opinion that he was neglecting his duties. There was never any explicit timeframe on when a new forum would be created. I would be a lot more upset if he spent $100,000 on new forum upgrades last year, and they sucked. |
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List? What list?
Most likely the donations where not spent at all. I am sure the costs to run the forum has been covered by advertisement revenue.
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TL;DR No matter what you say, the case is pretty clear: donations were collected and not used for the intended purpose.What is your example of the donations not being used for their intended purpose? d00d, it is sunday evening here. I am having fun and I am not in the mood to discuss "example of the donations not being used for their intended purpose".  I relaxing listening some drum&bass, not up to long and tedious intellectual debates that will not change the present situation. Alright, well you can get back to me on that. Its a fairly simple question, and you have opinions which you think are valid and you aren't willing to back up. But, like I said, you are welcome to get back to me as soon as something pops into your head. I wouldn't want to interfer with your Sunday evening. |
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