Im glad for Avalon, I really am. It must be a hard thing not to take the BTC and run to the Gayman Islands like BFL, Bitcoinica, and the rest did. I don't understand how you are still a mod here. Why are such slanderous statements acceptable coming from a moderator?
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Ok, makes sense. Thanks for setting me straight guys. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Micon - I'm willing to go another 10 BTC if you're game. Just add on to the same address. Please confirm, then I'll send.
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Will that power supply work with 110/120?
Someone mentioned they were using Corsair power supplies. It'll definitely work on 110 if that is the case. I believe being able to switch between 110/220 is a requirement of an ATX power supply, is it not? If not automatically, at least having a manual switch in the back for it.
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Listen to this guy! ^^ He paid the approximate equivalent of $8k for 2 single SCs($2600), so he knows a scam when he sees one. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) No, I paid $2600 for 2 Single SC's. The unit of currency with which I paid would be worth $8k today, yes, but at the time, was worth $2600. They are dishonest, and poorly organized.
If you think differently I'm sorry.
Poorly organized? I could agree to that one - at least they were in the past, but they are getting better in that regard. Dishonest? Nope. They are (and always have been) providing best estimates based on the facts they have on hand. They had some hiccups along the road that caused delays that they could not foresee. They have withheld information in the past to not give their competitors an advantage over them, but they have never lied (that I am aware of). Any misstatements that were made were due to lack of communication between employees of the company, again, bringing us back to point #1 of being poorly organized.
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that... isn't a standard american 120v plug... if i'm not wrong, it looks like a 240v plug. i wasn't aware avalon's needed such.
Let's hope somebody's got a converter ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Or a spare PSU cord laying around...? (Come on, we've all got them!)
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WOW.
This guy is amazing. I got a comprehensive report on a scammer, turns out he has like 100 felony convictions.
I have everything I could EVER want on this guy... Wow.
I have a feeling he's going to be quite busy here... and on BTCJam.
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I think that a more relevant question is: Are the two ASCI vendors scams? The answer to this question is yes. Makes all your worry about laws irrelevant. Don't it?
Care to put money down on that statement? Think about every day they are late though. That is a breach of contract. So if they don't scam people out of equipment. They are certainly scamming people out of the use of the promised product. It reeks of pirate. Promise, lead people on, months later people are still asking the question, do you think he's going to pay? My friend was scammed by BFL. The product was supposed to be shipped before the reward halving. Even if the product shows up, it was still a scam. Disagree. They have offered a refund for anyone at any time. Please tell me what definition of "scam" that fits. If a customer doesn't like it, they can get a full refund. If they weren't allowing refunds, I'd agree with you. But anyone who wants out can get out at no cost to them (aside from opportunity cost). This is exactly how every other business works.
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I agree with all of this, but if there are people willing to take the risk and pay for batch #2 now, why should the buyers or Avalon wait? If nobody is willing to take that risk, Avalon will have to do as you suggest. But if sufficient numbers of people are willing to pay for batch #2 now, then Avalon can go ahead and people who want to be safer will just have to wait for batch #3 or later, right? People who want to bungie jump without a tested cord shouldn't be told they have to wait until the cord is tested for people who want to be safer, IMO.
That's kind of my thinking as well... Avalon can post batch #2 for sale whenever they want, and people can order if they believe they are legitimate. Anyone who wants to wait to see more proof can wait to see more proof. It's a free market. The problem is that if they are a scam, this just proves that BTC people in general tend to be gullible and naive, swayed by the blindfolds of promised profits. There have been some pretty large scams in the past, and we don't need another giant one. It just hurts the Bitcoin economy in the end. True, it does hurt Bitcoin's image in the end. I suppose I like the idea of people not being protected from their own stupidity though. If people want to be stupid, they should be allowed to be stupid. In the interest of protecting Bitcoin as a whole, I think it is prudent to warn people about the possibility of scamming, but ultimately, if Avalonggone wants to post up a second batch, and people want to buy it, they shouldn't be stopped.
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The only way for Avalon to prove that they have a legit product is to delay Batch #2 Orders until proof that their ASIC unit actually reaches Jeff and he can confirm the unit actually hashes on the network.
I am not the only person that is skeptical of the fact that they are going to be taking payments for Batch #2 without having any proof.
It would be very wise of Avalon to delay Batch #2 orders until there is Proof, in light of the bASIC project failing.
Delaying Batch#2 a couple of days is not going to hurt anyone. Delaying would only show that Avalon is legit.
I agree with all of this, but if there are people willing to take the risk and pay for batch #2 now, why should the buyers or Avalon wait? If nobody is willing to take that risk, Avalon will have to do as you suggest. But if sufficient numbers of people are willing to pay for batch #2 now, then Avalon can go ahead and people who want to be safer will just have to wait for batch #3 or later, right? People who want to bungie jump without a tested cord shouldn't be told they have to wait until the cord is tested for people who want to be safer, IMO. That's kind of my thinking as well... Avalon can post batch #2 for sale whenever they want, and people can order if they believe they are legitimate. Anyone who wants to wait to see more proof can wait to see more proof. It's a free market.
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I think that a more relevant question is: Are the two ASCI vendors scams? The answer to this question is yes. Makes all your worry about laws irrelevant. Don't it?
Care to put money down on that statement?
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What does your company actually do? You said it helps newbies, but how exactly do you do it?
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You should get his consent before sending more BTC after he sends any. It's OK to send first if he hasn't sent, because I can always make sure you get your money back if he doesn't participate. Once he has paid money to the address, I can no longer do that.
As I understood it, any one of the three of you can take control of all the funds so long as one of the other two parties cooperates with you. So as soon as mrb sends his payment invitation to casascius, casascius can distribute the coins, without consent of the 3rd party. That's right isn't it? I don't believe Casascius can take control of the coins, even with consent from one of the other parties. The other party would have to take control of the coins, then send them to an address Casascius specifies.
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This is how i read it:
Batch one flopped, some serious issues have been discovered with the initial chips that rolled out. They've managed to salvage a few chips and build a few units that sort of work and sent out a couple of prototypes. They now need money to pay for a respin and are banking that the second run will work and they'll have enough chips to fulfill batches 1 & 2.
Good call. I +1 this as the most reasonable explanation.
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25 BTC!
I can get 36 M/hash out of it too ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 25BTC seems a bit low. But if you are serious we can talk off list. I am serious, but this is all I can offer. I know it's a lowball compared to what it is worth, but wanted to throw it out there in case you were desperate to rid yourself of it. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Oh man.. this cannot end well.
It'll end very nicely for two of us. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Are you looking for web design or web programming?
Rarely can one person do both well.
Hah, +1 to that!
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Not a big deal, I don't really see what harm anyone can do with an IMEI though. There, unfortunately, isn't another way to factory unlock an iPhone without the IMEI.
Many people on here know were I'm employed and have much of my info for previous trades (and I would be willing to share those details with trustworthy people) if that helps build trust.
From what I understand (and this is just from some quick random internet reading), someone could emulate or rewrite a phone's IMEI to gain access to the same plan at the original phone is on. So, theoretically, you could take my IMEI and put all sorts of fun stuff (text messaging, data roaming, purchases, etc) on my next phone bill. I am no expert, so it could be that this is completely wrong. I'm not saying you would, as I really don't think you would, but I don't like to take chances like this anymore. If you could point me to a reliable source stating that this isn't possible, then I might reconsider. Also, the trust-building things you mentioned wouldn't hurt. I don't have an official source but it's likely hard, if not impossible, to "create" a new/different IMEI number on an iPhone's Logic Board. I understand your precautions and don't blame you for having them. I'll PM you for some more details about me. Thanks. I did hear from others that the ROM isn't reflashable at all (which is usually true for anything called ROM). Thanks as well for following up with the details about yourself. I do believe that you aren't out to do anything scammish at this point. Wtfvanity brings up a good point about AT&T doing it for free. The only reason I would want to unlock my phone would be to resell it when I renew my contract, so I may as well wait and do it for free. One more question - Would I be able to verify the unlock on my phone, without attempting to switch to another network? Don't quote me on this but last time I checked if your iPhone becomes unlocked, the next time you connect it to iTunes it will give you a message saying it has been unlocked that looks similar to this. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rndmr.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F02%2Funlock-message.jpg&t=663&c=HEC-hDml6vNy4g) Thanks!
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Not a big deal, I don't really see what harm anyone can do with an IMEI though. There, unfortunately, isn't another way to factory unlock an iPhone without the IMEI.
Many people on here know were I'm employed and have much of my info for previous trades (and I would be willing to share those details with trustworthy people) if that helps build trust.
From what I understand (and this is just from some quick random internet reading), someone could emulate or rewrite a phone's IMEI to gain access to the same plan at the original phone is on. So, theoretically, you could take my IMEI and put all sorts of fun stuff (text messaging, data roaming, purchases, etc) on my next phone bill. I am no expert, so it could be that this is completely wrong. I'm not saying you would, as I really don't think you would, but I don't like to take chances like this anymore. If you could point me to a reliable source stating that this isn't possible, then I might reconsider. Also, the trust-building things you mentioned wouldn't hurt. I don't have an official source but it's likely hard, if not impossible, to "create" a new/different IMEI number on an iPhone's Logic Board. I understand your precautions and don't blame you for having them. I'll PM you for some more details about me. Thanks. I did hear from others that the ROM isn't reflashable at all (which is usually true for anything called ROM). Thanks as well for following up with the details about yourself. I do believe that you aren't out to do anything scammish at this point. Wtfvanity brings up a good point about AT&T doing it for free. The only reason I would want to unlock my phone would be to resell it when I renew my contract, so I may as well wait and do it for free. One more question - Would I be able to verify the unlock on my phone, without attempting to switch to another network?
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