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1941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 10:03:33 AM


Now that you have given exchanges back their coins. How many coins total did you end up returning to all the exchanges?

Can you provide some proof that the exchanges actually had the amount of coins you returned to them?



And what would be acceptable proof in your mind? as I am not going to waste my time just for you to say "that's not good enough proof", as you seem to be moaning about absolutely everything (and nothing)

Proof would be, bittrex has these public DOPE addresses so I returned them this many coins.

How did you know how many coins to send to bittrex/c-cex/allcoin?



Clearly the only way to do a coin swap is to return every coin to every address.


1942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 10:01:26 AM
BTW... I did a test that worked successfully.

It's possible for you to send pre-mined v3 coins to my v2 paperwallet and Android public addresses. I will be able to import my v2 paperwallet/android wallet into the v3 wallet QT and have my coins.


Since you created that block explorer and seem to have advanced knowledge of the blockchain it should be easy for you to return coins to users who don't use exchanges.

1943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 09:52:33 AM


Now that you have given exchanges back their coins. How many coins total did you end up returning to all the exchanges?

Can you provide some proof that the exchanges actually had the amount of coins you returned to them?

1944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 09:38:28 AM


This whole coin is messed up. Here is the pre-mined coin address (which has already been emptied):
http://explorer.dopecoin.com/address/4YoAKghfzPrrPgZLCxPQCmsDbf9FKkFxj3

I can't follow them at all. I didn't try very hard. Everything is confusing. Why aren't the coins just sitting in the 4YoAKghfzPrrPgZLCxPQCmsDbf9FKkFxj3 still?
http://explorer.dopecoin.com/address/zurGgFhZgmT6rt6CCAPsS1MqaGCZHtEjm2


The devs are going to now have to explain every transaction and why they did it. Nothing is transparent anymore. What a mess.


1945  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
As promised, both explorers now live, http://explorer.dopecoin.com is for the live chain.  http://v2explorer.dopecoin.com is for exploring the old chain BEFORE cut off

Allcoin is now doing their swap.

And for fartbags, no you cannot send coins from the v2 chain to v3, they will never get confirmed by the network.

Of course you can't send coins from one blockchain to a different blockchain.

What you can do is take the 130,000,000 premined DOPE v3 coins and send them out to the addresses that exist on the v2 blockchain. DOPE users can then continue to use their DOPE.  

Why won't you give all users their DOPE back?
1946  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 07:57:29 AM
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The fact = You stole every single DopeCoin and have yet to return them all. This makes makes you the DopeCoin thief.

If they "stole it" why are they still here talking to you fartbags ?  You didn't answer question.  If they "stole" the coins whats the point of them hanging around here?

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It's not hard to return the coins. All the transactions are right there in the v1/v2 blockchain. I'm sure there is someone out there who specializes in blockchain examination and creating block explorers who could produce a script for you to run and have all the balances returned to the correct "areas".

Why would they return something that was never stolen ? That makes no sense. There will be a blockchain tomorrow like aaron said. That is when you will be made a fool. Time for you to move on....


I'm shocked a legendary member would support such a coin swap/theft instead of supporting all coins being returned to the owners.


This coin has no future. Very few people are going to use it. There are so many other choices. No one is going to support a coin knowing their DOPE will be stolen when DOPE v4 comes out.
1947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 07:38:45 AM


Hi sir. Would you like some DOPE? I will trade you all of my DOPE for $1,000,000. Be careful though, u have to follow the DOPE twitter account and this thing called a "bitcointalk thread". If you don't follow closely enough the devs will steal all of your coins and throw them in garbage.

I see the investors wanting in soooooo bad!



What part of "the swap period is still open" are you not getting?


The only question I have for FartBags is if we are scammers like he says we are, why haven't we just left with all the coins and called it a day ? Why bother talking to anyone here ?

It makes no sense fartbags!  I know you have concerns and that is understandable , but there is no reason for any of us to be hanging out here if we are scammers. Lets get real here this would be the time and place to be a scammer and have run by now! BUT NO , you'll see all of us here in December, January , February , March , April....... then what will you say fartbags ?


Whether you think you did or not. Whether you admit you did or not.

The fact = You stole every single DopeCoin and have yet to return them all. This makes makes you the DopeCoin thief.


You've made a mockery of DopeCoin and reduced it to a scam. DopeCoin was on CNN and known all over the world. It was the first of now many coins in this niche category. You wrecked it all. This coin could have had a billion dollar marketcap, increased marijuana knowledge, provided cheap medicine to patients and more. You still have a chance to fix it by returning all of the stolen coins. I hope you return them all.

It's not hard to return the coins. All the transactions are right there in the v1/v2 blockchain. I'm sure there is someone out there who specializes in blockchain examination and creating block explorers who could produce a script for you to run and have all the balances returned to the correct "areas".

1948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 06:39:29 AM


Hi sir. Would you like some DOPE? I will trade you all of my DOPE for $1,000,000. Be careful though, u have to follow the DOPE twitter account and this thing called a "bitcointalk thread". If you don't follow closely enough the devs will steal all of your coins and throw them in garbage.

I see the investors wanting in soooooo bad!

1949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 06:25:09 AM

Listen, nobody is here to scam I can promise you that. Everyone is putting in the time to make things work. If you want to discuss this personally just PM me instead of screaming scam in every post! We are going to be very transparent about everything as it does nobody any good not to be. Thanks bud.



"We are transparent. Message me in private."  That sure sounds transparent...

The block explorers don't lie. They're going to show the truth one day. It will be shown that you took every DopeCoin and didn't give it back to the owners.

This coins has NO future unless you give it all back.

Beware of this SCAM. Only exchanges have received their coins. Nobody has had their coins returned to their personal address.


You're all wasting your time if you don't give it back.



man, WTF? you really seem to live up to your name.

Any way..

After reading what Jyri wrote, i suugest that if it was possible the manual swap should continue for example to the end of this year.
I know it takes time and effort from Devs, but it also shows that no one is scamming.
On the other hand there is still time to mine that old DOPE and cheat by swapping those coins to new ones.
I don't know, but is it possible to turn mining off in old DOPE some how?


You can just end DOPE v1 or v2 a certain block. You then see which addresses have which balance and send all the coins over. All coins are then returned to the owners. No exchanges are needed in the process of a coin swap. It's strange that they only gave exchanges back their coins.

As of right now they stole everyones coins except for the exchanges coins. They gave the exchanges back their coins.



Part of the recommended coin swap instructions is to combine both blockchains into 1 block explorer so that all transactions can be seen from the beginning of the coin.
Does this coin even have a block explorer right now?
1950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 06:20:06 AM


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The block explorers don't lie. They're going to show the truth one day. It will be shown that you took every DopeCoin and didn't give it back to the owners.

This coins has NO future unless you give it all back.

You are correct the block explorer won't lie. It will show that all the coins are accounted for and in their proper areas.



I'm still missing all of my coins. I'm pretty sure all the people that I gave paper wallets to are missing their coins as well.

When can my new friends and I expect to have all of our coins transferred from the 130,000,000 pre-mine to our accounts?


I have completed a test. Wallets from the old DOPE v1 & v2 work on the new DOPE v3. All you have to do is send them back to the address that had them at whichever block you decided to officially end DOPE v1 & v2.

1951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 06:03:22 AM

Listen, nobody is here to scam I can promise you that. Everyone is putting in the time to make things work. If you want to discuss this personally just PM me instead of screaming scam in every post! We are going to be very transparent about everything as it does nobody any good not to be. Thanks bud.



"We are transparent. Message me in private."  That sure sounds transparent...

The block explorers don't lie. They're going to show the truth one day. It will be shown that you took every DopeCoin and didn't give it back to the owners.

This coins has NO future unless you give it all back.


You're all wasting your time if you don't give it back.

1952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 03:30:59 AM

- Recommended coin swap features to prevent scams -


After watching CANN having troubles due to a coin swap, I have come up with ideas so that this problem never happens again.


There are two main features that are necessary to prevent someone from abusing DOPE with a coin swap.


1) Luckily DOPE has kept the same character "4" as the first letter in a public address. This has allowed me to successfully import my android wallet, paperwallet and windows .dat file into the new DOPE v3. This allows the person who pre-mined all of the coins for DOPE v3 to successfully and anonymously deliver all DOPE to users without any user interaction. GREAT NEWS!

2) The original DOPE v1 & v2 blockchain must be supported through a block explorer or problems will occur in the future when people want to know where coins came from.



Currently DOPE has not done either of these steps so the current coin swap is considered a SCAM






Hey Jyri,

I see you are listed as the Tech Dev. Do you think that the new DOPE devs will be sending out all the pre-mined DOPE v3 to the addresses of the owners of the DOPE v1 & v2?

I think this will be a serious issue for the rest of time for DOPE v3. I don't see anyone wanting to support a coin where the devs previously stole some peoples coins.


You have gone public with your identity so I'm curious how you feel on this all. You reputation is at stake here. Has anyone else involved in this gone public with their identity?

1953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 03:24:33 AM
How does POS work then? How do you know how many coins I've got? How does it affect mining?

That's a big question. For you as a user you must put the coins into the windows/linux/mac wallet and leave the wallet open. You will see it working once POS starts.

There are many questions about the pre-mined coins as of right now. I hope who ever has the private keys to the pre-mined coins can get all the DOPE sent out before the big 2% POS a day starts. The pre-mined coins will be the oldest coins. Will the pre-mine be staking? I am quite shocked that the new developers have not sent out all over the pre-mined coins yet.
1954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 11, 2014, 02:21:51 AM

- Recommended coin swap features to prevent scams -


After watching CANN having troubles due to a coin swap, I have come up with ideas so that this problem never happens again.


There are two main features that are necessary to prevent someone from abusing DOPE with a coin swap.


1) Luckily DOPE has kept the same character "4" as the first letter in a public address. This has allowed me to successfully import my android wallet, paperwallet and windows .dat file into the new DOPE v3. This allows the person who pre-mined all of the coins for DOPE v3 to successfully and anonymously deliver all DOPE to users without any user interaction. GREAT NEWS!

2) The original DOPE v1 & v2 blockchain must be supported through a block explorer or problems will occur in the future when people want to know where coins came from.



Currently DOPE has not done either of these steps so the current coin swap is considered a SCAM





  
1955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 10, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
Sorry for the dumb question but where do I send my old coins now to get them swapped ?

bump...  Roll Eyes

You seem to be the pool all-star. Maybe you know the answer to this. When a coin does a coin swap. If the initial character in the old addresses is the same as the new addresses, would you be able to send out the all the coins to the addresses in the original blockchain and use the same wallet files with the new qt on the new blockchain?


If my theory above works then it's a scam to do a coin swap any other way.
1956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 10, 2014, 11:13:40 PM
Sorry for the dumb question but where do I send my old coins now to get them swapped ?

bump...  Roll Eyes

You seem to be the pool all-star. Maybe you know the answer to this. When a coin does a coin swap. If the initial character in the old addresses is the same as the new addresses, would you be able to send out the all the coins to the addresses in the original blockchain and use the same wallet files with the new qt on the new blockchain?
1957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 10, 2014, 11:02:37 PM
Congrats on successful swap, developers!

Price is already going up nicely.

A coin swap isn't successful until everyone that owned previous dope coins owns the new dope coins.

This far from successful.

Enough stupid. Did you not read where dev said swap will continue for a limited time?

Swaps generally are a pain in the ass and typically some get left behind but dev has been advertising and tweeting about swap. I'm thinking if you own a coin you should at least follow the coin on twitter.
Life is a work in progress so you never know what tomorrow will bring. Maybe dev extends swap timeframe, maybe not.

Yelling scam just makes you a douche and gets people to ignore you.

Go dig up your paper wallets and quit your crying....you sound like a little bitch.


You sound like a scammer. You don't need to follow a coin to ensure you don't get your coins stolen from you. The stuff you say is the stupidest stuff I have ever heard.

I'm pretty sure I will get my coins. I'm worried about the people who grabbed coins a long time ago and wanted to wait for a few years to see what happens. Then see they are worth a lot and want to support the coin.

1958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 10, 2014, 11:00:20 PM
I'm not an expert on this so maybe it won't work but why can't you just do this...

My old paperwallet address starts with a "4" and the new addresses also start with a "4". Can't you just send the coins to the same addresses and use the original wallet files? This way no one gets screwed over.

1959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 10, 2014, 10:44:07 PM
Congrats on successful swap, developers!

Price is already going up nicely.

A coin swap isn't successful until everyone that owned previous dope coins owns the new dope coins.

This far from successful.
1960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOPE] DopeCoin - COIN SWAP IN PROGRESS / PROOF OF SCRIPT IS LIVE on: November 10, 2014, 10:29:51 PM
There better not be a time frame for when I have to convert my coins.

This coins is starting to look like a scam. This is the dumbest thing ever.

We've been talking about the change in this thread for a month!  Not our fault you haven't been watching.  The deadline was 19:00 GMT today.  However we knew some users would miss this deadline, so will be doing manual swaps for the next month.  First few days will still be a 1:1 swap, then it will taper downwards.  Details will follow tomorrow on how to manually exchange, but in short it will be done via Privkeys so we can make sure coins made after the deadline are not rewarded.

SCAM

New investors beware.

Standard troll, always one.

So you want me to go dig up my paper wallets that are buried in my back yard?




WHat's going to happen with the 50,000,000+ unclaimed DOPE ?
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