"I'm going to give away 10 BTC to the first guy to send me 5 BTC, quote this so I can't change this"
Trustworthy member quotes this, and later receives a PM:
"Hey, some guy actually sent me 5 BTC, can you change your quote for 1 BTC so I don't have to pay them?"
All edits are recorded, so I can confirm/deny whether someone did this if I'm asked. Interesting, I didn't know you were able to do that. That makes the OP pretty redundant then. |
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What would be the feasibility of returning the newbie section to the forums, allowing Newbies to post there freely, and also allowing Newbies to post in other sections but requiring them to have their posts approved first?
Forgetting about "the moderation team is going to die" for a second (I'm sure you could get a team of people to look over those posts anyway in exchange for that "Staff" title a few people crave so much), it seems feasible and it would increase the quality of posts. Make Newbies read and agree to a page that requires them to look at it for 60 seconds before continuing detailing criteria that posts on the Bitcoin Forum are expected to follow, etc.
It would greatly increase the quality of threads without necessarily preventing high-quality newbies from being heard.
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I don't think enough people are aware of the Ignore feature, to be honest - that is one solution to these problems.
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Good to see that the moderation team isn't as useless as people claim, then!
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"I'm going to give away 10 BTC to the first guy to send me 5 BTC, quote this so I can't change this"
Trustworthy member quotes this, and later receives a PM:
"Hey, some guy actually sent me 5 BTC, can you change your quote for 1 BTC so I don't have to pay them?"
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Sorry but the vast majority of my posts are quality and not one-liners. Refer to my BTCVegas thread. I'd say it has about 50 lines of text on the OP alone.
That is not "spam". When I make one-liners they are almost always at least 10 words, rather than 5 or 6. Posts that are quickly made to gain a buck are what we dislike.
Your argument is air. BadBear does not have a paid signature either. In fact the only one your argument holds a bit up against is LaudaM, but you can not use an argument against another person to excuse your actions or try and call us out.
doesn't matter what you dislike matters what is spam this is not I was trying to point out the hypocrisy how my posts are allegedly spam but when the same happens on your side they aren't just because you don't have an ad that is a prime example of hypocrisy You are not listening to any argument anyone makes, clearly, as you have ignored the fact your posts are spam because they are being done for money. Our point is EXACTLY that you had an ad, proving that your posts weren't constructive on purpose. If someone does not have an ad, then their posts may not intentionally be nonconstructive. no you are not listening to me you can't just make up a definition, writing for money isn't spamming then journalists are spamming when writing something for the newspaper then people writing on hubpages are spamming people using google adsense are spamming so everyone who writes for money is intentionally being nonconstructive? why don't you ban everyone using a signature ad? Many staff and members support banning signature ads, however we can't just decide to change it without theymos deciding to. Don't come complaining to me, especially when you're brushing away my arguments like an immature child. What does google adsense and hubpages have to do with signature ads? You choose to look at their content and see their ads. When you spam good threads, people are basically forced to look at your spammy posts and ads until they ignore you. |
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Sorry but the vast majority of my posts are quality and not one-liners. Refer to my BTCVegas thread. I'd say it has about 50 lines of text on the OP alone.
That is not "spam". When I make one-liners they are almost always at least 10 words, rather than 5 or 6. Posts that are quickly made to gain a buck are what we dislike.
Your argument is air. BadBear does not have a paid signature either. In fact the only one your argument holds a bit up against is LaudaM, but you can not use an argument against another person to excuse your actions or try and call us out.
doesn't matter what you dislike matters what is spam this is not I was trying to point out the hypocrisy how my posts are allegedly spam but when the same happens on your side they aren't just because you don't have an ad that is a prime example of hypocrisy You are not listening to any argument anyone makes, clearly, as you have ignored the fact your posts are spam because they are being done for money. Our point is EXACTLY that you had an ad, proving that your posts weren't constructive on purpose. If someone does not have an ad, then their posts may not intentionally be nonconstructive. |
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Sorry but the vast majority of my posts are quality and not one-liners. Refer to my BTCVegas thread. I'd say it has about 50 lines of text on the OP alone.
That is not "spam". When I make one-liners they are almost always at least 10 words, rather than 5 or 6. Posts that are quickly made to gain a buck are what we dislike.
Your argument is air. BadBear does not have a paid signature either. In fact the only one your argument holds a bit up against is LaudaM, but you can not use an argument against another person to excuse your actions or try and call us out.
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Dude all you have to do is post constructively. Don't post in a thread if you don't understand the discussion / haven't read the preceding posts, etc.
I understood the discussion, I have answered constructively and I have read the preceding posts, my only fault is that someone answered it previously I know that now but what I have done is still not spamming and I should not have been banned for 14 days because of it It is still a foolish mistake not spam, I could of at least been warned first.. Remove the ad signature and make 1000 posts a day if you want. says the one with a huge ritz grand casino signature and constant one liners Dude all you have to do is post constructively. Don't post in a thread if you don't understand the discussion / haven't read the preceding posts, etc.
I know that now but what I have done is still not spamming and I should not have been banned for 14 days because of it SPAM is Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages. Low-quality messages posted just for money fall under that category. Just wait out your 14 day ban and reflect on what you did. I did not post for money, it was not stupid and it was not pointless I answered the question on how to implement images in threads using BB code my only fault is that it has been answered in a different manner previously Actually I'm pretty sure LaudaM only just put that signature up. It was pointless and it was annoying. Here's an example of one of your pointless posts: Manned mars mission or asteroid mining is very hard and very expensive without moon exploitation or space elevator.
but couldn't it pay itself out? I count only 6 words. |
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Dude all you have to do is post constructively. Don't post in a thread if you don't understand the discussion / haven't read the preceding posts, etc.
I know that now but what I have done is still not spamming and I should not have been banned for 14 days because of it SPAM is Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages. Low-quality messages posted just for money fall under that category. Just wait out your 14 day ban and reflect on what you did. |
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I'm half way to 60th place, I'm so close. I can feel it.
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Paid sig spammer, either doesn't bother reading threads he's replying to (likely since he seems to post every minute or two on average), or repeats posts just to increase his post count. Not something easily seen just by looking at one's post history.
as I said, you just hate me because I have an ad in my signature admit you wouldn't ban me if there was no ad You wouldn't have gotten banned if there was no ad, since you wouldn't be posting redundant posts for no reason other than to increase your post count, so you're partially correct. that's racist towards members with ads, either forbid ads or allow them You clearly do not know what racism is. If you are spamming the forum to line your own pockets, everyone suffers. BadBear is saying that you were clearly making posts just to get paid, if you were just making posts that were generally bad quality but you weren't doing it to get paid that'd be fine, but as you were doing it just to get paid it is not. It's content being contributed because you want to contribute vs content being "contributed" because you want to get paid. |
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I stopped putting ads in my signature when I realized it makes me look similar to those who just spam for money. Many people would complain that they can't spam for their $50/month that they get from signature ads, but in the long run it'd be much better for bitcointalk.
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I'm pretty sure if you posted an entire post along the lines of "I'm going to find your family and murder them" with a lot more f bombs etc. that the moderation team wouldn't sit there and do nothing about it. To be honest businesses, ventures, IPOs, etc. are going to be insulted. The moderation team has problems, but that isn't one.
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Try the "Lock Thread" button to lock this thread, as you don't need the loan anymore.
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As in 2013, it seems the trend has continued - a massive influx of users, both new and old, has continued to hit the Lending section with more and more loans being asked for daily. Due to scams a "rule" has been created which, while not currently "enforced", is basically a minimum requirement to get a loan. Note that this isn't an official forum rule, it's just a rule that most lenders will follow.
The rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" means that in order to get a loan you must give collateral that is equal, or preferably higher to the amount you are being loaned.
If you completely ignore this sticky and make a loan request with no collateral, without having massive trust on the forum, the chances of you getting negative trusted feedback and therefore having a Trade with Extreme Caution tag is almost 100%.
In general the amount lenders will be looking for is collateral equal to 110%-120% of the amount you are being loaned. Why is this? Well, first, they want to discourage you from running off with the funds. Collateral also needs to be something that can easily be sold, which brings me to my second point - your $500 worth of ink isn't going to cut it as collateral. Normally lenders will want things such as Altcoins or precious metals, although things that can be sent electronically are preferred.
A common question is why don't I just sell my collateral? Well the reasoning behind collateral is that you think it's going to appreciate in price or do not want to sell it, encouraging you to pay back the loan to have your collateral returned.
However, you must also watch out for collateral scammers. These guys take your collateral and run, without sending you the loan. Avoid this by using escrow.
This applies to lenders too - for your own sake, please follow this rule, both for your wallet and to discourage scammers from coming here.
The below post is also part of this [EDU].
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I don't see why we don't make the sections where scamming is extremely high more strict (especially Lending). That is not censorship, you can hardly call "not being allowed to ask for a loan without matching criteria" censorship. Lots of people would gladly volunteer to moderate sections that are filled with even if they have a high workload that comes with them, so the excuse "our mod team can't handle it" doesn't really work. Make people give information (no "hi I need .1 BTC loan send to *address* thx"), restrict who can post (no 1 post newbies), and disallow self-moderation in those sections. Right now there is no valid reason to even delete posts in those sections because reasons have not been made when there are a lot of perfectly sensible rules that could be implemented to reduce scams. Mods could also make stickies in order to warn people of new scams. John K. used to sticky threads that would warn people of scams but now he isn't staff so information threads are usually just swept under. There's only so much the "Lending regulars" can do. EDIT: Here's a thread that I want to see if the mods will sticky. It is useful and it will reduce the amount of scams out there. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.new#new |
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Another victim here - byers be ware - BuyGoldWithBitcoin may be a scam or/and operated by an incompetent seller! My coins never arrived (2+ months since ordered) Had several communications with a person named Justin, he could not produce a proff of shipment nor he would send a refund. FYI, my order number was 3500, paid with TXN ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/afd777d87a104a42b39e5ee99bbb1c3c25d27e9a00843af3458147702db7aba1Will be regularuly posting this warning here, on reddit and several other forums to warn others. I don't believe BuyGoldWithBitcoin is a shop at all, rather it reviews them, which is probably confirmed by the post above mine from the aforementioned person  |
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It's only broken if you don't use it correctly. Hell, nothing even forces you to listen to DefaultTrust - you can remove it and build your own trust list entirely from scratch.
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Your posts do look pretty low quality in general, but yes, BCX is probably right in that the worst posts were deleted.
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